[AZORES-Genealogy] Filha legitima primeira - first legitimate child, or first legitimate daughter?

2010-07-23 Thread Jesse Pacheco

 Hi group.

I have a batismo for my great great grandmother Maria da Resureicao:

http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file12/objects/7/8/e/c78ee5d8-6e52-44ac-907e-272660d3f20e-0.jpg

It says that she is the filha legitima primeira. Do I take this to 
mean first DAUGHTER, meaning there could be sons before her, or first 
child, period, no others before her?


I ask because I believed she had an older brother Francisco with whom 
she was living in the 1930 US Census. I didn't have concrete proof that 
they were siblings, only a suspicion. That is where my confusion comes 
from, so I was wondering if anyone had encountered this dilemma before 
and could give some input. Thanks!


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filha legitima primeira - first legitimate child, or first legitimate daughter?

2010-07-23 Thread Jesse Pacheco
 Oops! I just realized that it says de nome; I'm sure this just means 
their first named Maria, correct? Sorry about that! I think that solves 
this mystery, right?


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filha legitima primeira - first legitimate child, or first legitimate daughter?

2010-07-23 Thread rfrancispimentel
That's right, the legitimate daughter first one named Maria. If it said
secundo then that would mean there was another daughter named Maria that
was older and as we have found most likely had died. 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 

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legitimate child, or first legitimate daughter?

  Oops! I just realized that it says de nome; I'm sure this just means

their first named Maria, correct? Sorry about that! I think that solves 
this mystery, right?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread eric edgar
Karlushko,

Yes, but isn't Karlushko also an uncommon one?


This is the entry in the Flores history book for the name:



*Nòia * - Com raízes na Galiza, este apelido já exista nas Flores em meados
do



século XVII. , vindo, não se sabe bem quando, da ilha de Porto Santo.  Um
tal



Bartolomeu da Nòia,  casado com Ana Rodrigues, faleceu em 1692 en Santa
Cruz,



onde, de resto, haveriam tambem de casar quatro dos seus filhos: Manuel
Rodrigues



Nòia (1688), Maria Rodrigues (1690), Francisco Rodrigues Nòia (1694), Agueda



Rodrigues (1696),  e João Rodrigues Nòia (1696). Por essa altura, o apelido
já



exista também  em Ponta Delgada, onde morava Belchior Gomes Nòia, casada



com Isabel Rodrigues, pais de Gaspar e de Maria Rodrigues, que ali casaram,



respectivamente em 1686 e 1689.







My family descends from Belchior Gomes Nòia.





Eric Edgar





 It is also found in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel from the mid 1600s, and in
Porto Santo, Madeira from  the 1500s.



On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote:

   Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA*
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 Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
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 Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer,
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 De: luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net
 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 Para: azores@googlegroups.com
 Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50


  Hi Henrietta,
 My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you
 would like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can
 fill your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
 I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the
 groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am
 still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
 Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
 - Original Message -
 From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
 To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Hi Henrietta
 My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers
 name was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno
 also from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis
 Feno went by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle
 names was Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the
 name Manuel Feno in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families
 moved and settled in Alameda County, CA.

  Harvey Jerome

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 *Sent:* Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39 AM
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly
 from Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel
 Francisco and lived in Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who
 used Jeronimo as his surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book
 by Francisco Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the
 islands of the Azores.  I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to
 you.   Henrietta
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Douglas Borba

Hello Robin,

My Borba line comes from Vila Nova, Terceira. The name was originally Lourenço 
de Borba, but my great-grandfather simplified it to just Borba. There are some 
Lourenço de Borba in Terceira still (His name is Jacinto Lourenço de Borba).

Is yours from Terceira also?

Doug
 


From: beso...@succeed.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:22:41 -0700




Hello Douglas,
 
Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from?
 
Thanks,
Robin Borba Besotes
 

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, 
Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas
Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Karlushko
My ancestor is Caetano Silveira de Mattos from Sao Jorge.


Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 13:22



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Hello Douglas,
 
Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from?
 
Thanks,
Robin Borba Besotes
 

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, 
Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas
Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Research on Faial

2010-07-23 Thread Carol Warnock
While doing research on the freguesia of Santa Catarina in the
Concelho of Castelo Branco on the island of Faial, I came across the
phrase of obito de exposto. The only thing I have been able to
figure out is that in two Portuguese-English Dictionaries it
translates as displayed deaths.  What does that mean?  Does it mean
an autopsy was done?  Any help would sure be appreciated.

Carol Warnock

Researching:  Pico, Faial, Terceira and Santa Maria.

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Re: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread helen kerner

There was a Father Noia (deceased) in San Jose,  California.  He was a priest 
at 
Five Wounds Portuguese National Church in San Jose, California.  


He was born in the island of Flores.





From: mances man...@netsite.com.br
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 9:27:15 PM
Subject: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

 
Not strange for families from Vila Franca do Campo during the time period of 
spanish ruling in  São Miguel .
I descend from Manuel Rodrigues Noia born about 1640 in  Vila Franca.
 
Manoel Cesar Furtado
 


 
De:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:  azores@googlegroups.com ] Em nome de 
Karlushko
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 22 de julho de 2010 17:31
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 
Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New   York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia,   Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes,   Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias,   Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves,   Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello,   Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, 
Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira,   Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré,   Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der   Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

--- Em qui, 22/7/10, luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net escreveu:

De: luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50
Hi   Henrietta,
My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you would   
like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can   fill 
your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the   
groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I   am 
still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
- Original Message -
From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Hi Henrietta
My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My   greatgrandfathers 
name was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his   wife Maria Concepcion Feno 
also from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's   brother name was Manuel Francis 
Feno 
went by Manuel Francis until the late   1800's.  All his childrens middle names 
was Francis.  He returned   to Flores for his sons wedding using the name 
Manuel 
Feno in 1907.  The   family first went to Mass.  Then the families moved and 
settled in   Alameda County, CA.
 
 Harvey Jerome
 


 
From:azores@googlegroups.com[mailto: azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39   AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]  Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Hi Eric, I also have   family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly from 
Ponta Delgada,   Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel 
Francisco and lived in   Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who 
used 
Jeronimo as his   surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book by 
Francisco Antonio   Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the islands of 
the Azores.I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to you.   Henrietta
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Re: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread Karlushko
It was very strange for me because I had never heard that  portugueses surname, 
and now
you tell me it is spanish. I was reading late last night some records from a 
friend of another group which I found out we were related and also found the 
name Noia.
As soon as I get home, I will send it for you.
 
Thank you and best regards
 

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

--- Em sex, 23/7/10, mances man...@netsite.com.br escreveu:


De: mances man...@netsite.com.br
Assunto: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Sexta-feira, 23 de Julho de 2010, 0:27








Not strange for families from Vila Franca do Campo during the time period of 
spanish ruling in São Miguel .
I descend from Manuel Rodrigues Noia born about 1640 in Vila Franca.
 
Manoel Cesar Furtado
 




De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto: azores@googlegroups.com ] Em nome de 
Karlushko
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 22 de julho de 2010 17:31
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 




Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

--- Em qui, 22/7/10, luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net escreveu:

De: luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50


Hi Henrietta,
My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you would 
like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can fill your 
tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the 
groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am still 
waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
- Original Message -
From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society


Hi Henrietta
My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers name 
was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno also 
from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis Feno went 
by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle names was 
Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the name Manuel Feno 
in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families moved and settled 
in Alameda County, CA.
 
 Harvey Jerome
 



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto: azores@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of 
henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly from 
Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel Francisco 
and lived in Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who used Jeronimo 
as his surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book by Francisco 
Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the islands of the 
Azores.  I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to you.   Henrietta
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filha legitima primeira - first legitimate child, or first legitimate daughter?

2010-07-23 Thread Douglas Borba

Hi Jesse,

filha legitima, primeira de nome really should be translated as: legitimate 
daughter, first thus named. 

Doug Borba
 
 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:22:12 -0400
 From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Filha legitima primeira - first legitimate child, 
 or first legitimate daughter?
 
 Hi group.
 
 I have a batismo for my great great grandmother Maria da Resureicao:
 
 http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file12/objects/7/8/e/c78ee5d8-6e52-44ac-907e-272660d3f20e-0.jpg
 
 It says that she is the filha legitima primeira. Do I take this to 
 mean first DAUGHTER, meaning there could be sons before her, or first 
 child, period, no others before her?
 
 I ask because I believed she had an older brother Francisco with whom 
 she was living in the 1930 US Census. I didn't have concrete proof that 
 they were siblings, only a suspicion. That is where my confusion comes 
 from, so I was wondering if anyone had encountered this dilemma before 
 and could give some input. Thanks!
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Emailing: Pedro do Rego

2010-07-23 Thread Shirley Allegre
Lisa:  That is the best that I could get.
Shirley in CA
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  From: lisa lema 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:25 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Emailing: Pedro do Rego





  Lisa L 

  Hello Ms. Shirley,
  I hope all is well with you. I have a request please. I haven't been online 
for lil bit so I am still going through past emails from group, but I was 
wondering if you might have a clearer image of this image on Pedro do Rego? I 
could not see it due to image was very dark. I am interested in the do Rego and 
do Rego Coelho line as it is part of my own ancestry. 
  Thank you

   




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  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:39:42 -0700


  From: Shirley Allegre 

  Pedro do Rego



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research on Faial

2010-07-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
Carol,
An exposto is an abandoned baby, usually but not always at a church in the
roda the little revolving chamber where babies could be left anonomously.
So it is the obituary of an abandoned baby.
Regards,
John

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote:

 While doing research on the freguesia of Santa Catarina in the
 Concelho of Castelo Branco on the island of Faial, I came across the
 phrase of obito de exposto. The only thing I have been able to
 figure out is that in two Portuguese-English Dictionaries it
 translates as displayed deaths.  What does that mean?  Does it mean
 an autopsy was done?  Any help would sure be appreciated.

 Carol Warnock

 Researching:  Pico, Faial, Terceira and Santa Maria.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread John Vasconcelos
At least one of my Ponta Delgada Vasconcelos cousins were married into the
Noia family.
John Vasconcelos

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:35 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Karlushko,

 Yes, but isn't Karlushko also an uncommon one?


 This is the entry in the Flores history book for the name:



 *Nòia * - Com raízes na Galiza, este apelido já exista nas Flores em
 meados do



 século XVII. , vindo, não se sabe bem quando, da ilha de Porto Santo.  Um
 tal



 Bartolomeu da Nòia,  casado com Ana Rodrigues, faleceu em 1692 en Santa
 Cruz,



 onde, de resto, haveriam tambem de casar quatro dos seus filhos: Manuel
 Rodrigues



 Nòia (1688), Maria Rodrigues (1690), Francisco Rodrigues Nòia (1694),
 Agueda



 Rodrigues (1696),  e João Rodrigues Nòia (1696). Por essa altura, o
 apelido já



 exista também  em Ponta Delgada, onde morava Belchior Gomes Nòia, casada



 com Isabel Rodrigues, pais de Gaspar e de Maria Rodrigues, que ali casaram,




 respectivamente em 1686 e 1689.







 My family descends from Belchior Gomes Nòia.





 Eric Edgar





  It is also found in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel from the mid 1600s, and in
 Porto Santo, Madeira from  the 1500s.



 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote:

   Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA*
 *Pesquisando:*
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 De: luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net
 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 Para: azores@googlegroups.com
 Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50


  Hi Henrietta,
 My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you
 would like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can
 fill your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
 I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from
 the groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I
 am still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
 Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
 - Original Message -
 From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
 To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Hi Henrietta
 My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers
 name was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno
 also from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis
 Feno went by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle
 names was Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the
 name Manuel Feno in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families
 moved and settled in Alameda County, CA.

  Harvey Jerome

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 *Sent:* Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39 AM
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly
 from Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel
 Francisco and lived in Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who
 used Jeronimo as his surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book
 by Francisco Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the
 islands of the Azores.  I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to
 you.   Henrietta
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel or Joao?

2010-07-23 Thread Marek Delacroix
My great great grandmother is Felizarda Rosa Coracao Jesus, born Feb. 14, 1829 
in Piedade, Pico.  She married Joao de Avila Brazil  (May 6, 1853) and they 
settled in Calheta, Sao Jorge where Joao was from.

The problem I have is that I have two different names for Felizardas father.
One is, Manuel da Silva  the other is Joao Goncalves Silva.  One name came from 
a church record, the other from Historical notes. The dates I have for her 
father are 1781-1863.
Felizardas mother is Maria Rita Jacinta 1780-1858.  Her marriage took place on 
Jan. 16, 1811 in Piedade, Pico.  Does anyone have any insight to this??
Thanks!



  

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Douglas Borba


 


From: douglasbo...@hotmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:36:30 -0600



Hello Robin,
My Borba line comes from Vila Nova, Terceira. The name was originally Lourenço 
de Borba, but my great-grandfather simplified it to just Borba. There are some 
Lourenço de Borba in Terceira still (His name is Jacinto Lourenço de Borba).
Is yours from Terceira also?
Doug
 


From: beso...@succeed.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:22:41 -0700




Hello Douglas,
 
Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from?
 
Thanks,
Robin Borba Besotes
 

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, 
Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas
Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores
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Re: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread eric edgar
Yes,  That was Leonel Noia. He was born  in Ponta Delgada, Flores to Manuel
Lourenco Noia.

Eric

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:28 PM, helen kerner hker...@sbcglobal.netwrote:


 There was a Father Noia (deceased) in San Jose,  California.  He was a
 priest at Five Wounds Portuguese National Church in San Jose, California.

 He was born in the island of Flores.

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 *Sent:* Thu, July 22, 2010 9:27:15 PM
 *Subject:* RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Not strange for families from Vila Franca do Campo during the time period
 of spanish ruling in São Miguel .

 I descend from Manuel Rodrigues Noia born about 1640 in Vila Franca.



 Manoel Cesar Furtado


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 *Enviada em:* quinta-feira, 22 de julho de 2010 17:31
 *Para:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society



 Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA*
 *Pesquisando:*
 *Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha*
 *
 Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
 Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro,
 Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
 Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto,
 Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues,
 Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,
 Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer,
 Jungklaus.*

 --- Em *qui, 22/7/10, luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net*escreveu:


 De: luv4h...@comcast.net luv4h...@comcast.net
 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 Para: azores@googlegroups.com
 Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50

 Hi Henrietta,
 My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you
 would like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can
 fill your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
 I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the
 groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am
 still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
 Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
 - Original Message -
 From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
 To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

 Hi Henrietta

 My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers
 name was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno
 also from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis
 Feno went by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle
 names was Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the
 name Manuel Feno in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families
 moved and settled in Alameda County, CA.



  Harvey Jerome


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 *Sent:* Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39 AM
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

 Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly
 from Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel
 Francisco and lived in Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who
 used Jeronimo as his surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book
 by Francisco Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the
 islands of the Azores.  I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to
 you.   Henrietta

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research on Faial

2010-07-23 Thread Alda Jorge
from what I understand obito do exposto someones died and are  lying in
state  like a showing of the person that has died  ..t before easter nosso
senhor esta exposto

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:28 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Carol,
 An exposto is an abandoned baby, usually but not always at a church in the
 roda the little revolving chamber where babies could be left anonomously.
 So it is the obituary of an abandoned baby.
 Regards,
 John


 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.comwrote:

 While doing research on the freguesia of Santa Catarina in the
 Concelho of Castelo Branco on the island of Faial, I came across the
 phrase of obito de exposto. The only thing I have been able to
 figure out is that in two Portuguese-English Dictionaries it
 translates as displayed deaths.  What does that mean?  Does it mean
 an autopsy was done?  Any help would sure be appreciated.

 Carol Warnock

 Researching:  Pico, Faial, Terceira and Santa Maria.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Adair Borba
I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather Manuel Egnacio(Ignacio)  
Borba from San Jorge, born about 1850...might there be a connection?   
He came to the US as a young adult...


Adair
On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Karlushko wrote:


My ancestor is Caetano Silveira de Mattos from Sao Jorge.


Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando:
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores,  
Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil,  
Bulcão, Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes,  
Ferreira, Figueiro, Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge,  
Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello,  
Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira,  
Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva,  
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,  
Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux,  
Schumer, Jungklaus.


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De: Besotes beso...@succeed.net
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 13:22

Hello Douglas,

Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from?

Thanks,
Robin Borba Besotes

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto,  
Rodrigues, Mattos, Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San  
Juan, Tres Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas

Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread Karlushko
My name is Carlos Bertemes.
My surname is from Luxemburg
Karlushko is my nick name given by my late wife
Its interesting what a name can do heheheheheh
Makes me curious and you teach  name history 
as we say in portuguese VIVENDO E APRENDENDO
or LIVING AND LEARNING
 
I hope you could open the file sent where you could find Noia
 
Thank you

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

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De: eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 19:35



Karlushko, 
 
Yes, but isn't Karlushko also an uncommon one?
 
 
This is the entry in the Flores history book for the name:
 
 

Nòia  - Com raízes na Galiza, este apelido já exista nas Flores em meados do 
 
século XVII. , vindo, não se sabe bem quando, da ilha de Porto Santo.  Um tal 
 
Bartolomeu da Nòia,  casado com Ana Rodrigues, faleceu em 1692 en Santa Cruz,
 
onde, de resto, haveriam tambem de casar quatro dos seus filhos: Manuel 
Rodrigues 
 
Nòia (1688), Maria Rodrigues (1690), Francisco Rodrigues Nòia (1694), Agueda
 
Rodrigues (1696),  e João Rodrigues Nòia (1696). Por essa altura, o apelido já
 
exista também  em Ponta Delgada, onde morava Belchior Gomes Nòia, casada
 
com Isabel Rodrigues, pais de Gaspar e de Maria Rodrigues, que ali casaram, 
 
respectivamente em 1686 e 1689.
 
 
 
My family descends from Belchior Gomes Nòia.
 
 
Eric Edgar
 
 
 
 
 
 It is also found in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel from the mid 1600s, and in Porto 
Santo, Madeira from  the 1500s.
 
 


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Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

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Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50 




Hi Henrietta,
My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you would 
like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can fill your 
tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the 
groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am still 
waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
- Original Message -
From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society




Hi Henrietta
My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers name 
was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno also 
from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis Feno went 
by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle names was 
Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the name Manuel Feno 
in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families moved and settled 
in Alameda County, CA.

 Harvey Jerome
 



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Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly from 
Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel Francisco 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research on Faial

2010-07-23 Thread Carol Warnock
Thanks John

Carol Warnock

On 7/23/10, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Carol,
 An exposto is an abandoned baby, usually but not always at a church in the
 roda the little revolving chamber where babies could be left anonomously.
 So it is the obituary of an abandoned baby.
 Regards,
 John

 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote:

 While doing research on the freguesia of Santa Catarina in the
 Concelho of Castelo Branco on the island of Faial, I came across the
 phrase of obito de exposto. The only thing I have been able to
 figure out is that in two Portuguese-English Dictionaries it
 translates as displayed deaths.  What does that mean?  Does it mean
 an autopsy was done?  Any help would sure be appreciated.

 Carol Warnock

 Researching:  Pico, Faial, Terceira and Santa Maria.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread Linda Norton
Manoel,
 
Per John Raposo, I'm connected to Miguel Rodrigues Noia b. 1570 in Vila
Franca m. to Ursula Rodrigues on 5.9.1615 in Rosario, Lagoa. I have so many
Rodrigues coming down; Sebastiao Rodrigues m. to Maria Manuel, Hyronima Dias
and to Catarina Velho. Not sure if they were brothers and/or second
marriages. They were from Sao Pedro, Vila Franca. Then there is Antonio
Rodrigues around 1700 from Matriz R.G. m. to Brisida Resendes.
 
I'm wondering if any of these are connected to my ggrandfather, Manuel de
Andrade de Almeida Rodrigues from Sao Roque, but nothing to prove where he
was born or if that was where he originally was from. I have written on my
grandparents marriage certificate that we was Manuel de Andrade, but on my
aunt's birth certificate it states his full name. He married Maria de Gloria
which I found was from Faja de Baixo.
 
I have Eliseu trying to get me a certificate on him and John doing the
research so hopefully I can get somewhere on this line.
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton
 
 

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mances
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:27 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society



Not strange for families from Vila Franca do Campo during the time period of
spanish ruling in São Miguel.

I descend from Manuel Rodrigues Noia born about 1640 in Vila Franca.

 

Manoel Cesar Furtado

 

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De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] Em nome de
Karlushko
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 22 de julho de 2010 17:31
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Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

 


Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
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Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
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Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50

Hi Henrietta,
My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you would
like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can fill
your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the
groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am
still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
- Original Message -
From: Harvey Jerome jeronimo3...@att.net
To: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net, azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

Hi Henrietta

My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers
name was Antonio  Jeronimo changed to Jerome  his wife Maria Concepcion Feno
also from Ponta Delgada, Flores.  Maria's brother name was Manuel Francis
Feno went by Manuel Francis until the late 1800's.  All his childrens middle
names was Francis.  He returned to Flores for his sons wedding using the
name Manuel Feno in 1907.  The family first went to Mass.  Then the families
moved and settled in Alameda County, CA.

 

 Harvey Jerome

 

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Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 6:39 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

Hi Eric, I also have family from Flores. Jeronimo, Noia, they are mostly
from Ponta Delgada, Flores. My greatgrandfather went by the name of Manuel
Francisco and lived in Stonington, Ct. He also had a brother in Mass. who
used Jeronimo as his surname. Have traced most of his ancestors in the book
by Francisco Antonio Nunes Pimentel Gomes. I have family from all the
islands of the Azores.  I live in StoningtonCt. would enjoy speaking to you.
Henrietta

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] TRILHADO surname

2010-07-23 Thread Linda Norton
Just going back and noticing I have Amaro Monte from Ribeira Seca m.
Margarida Rodrigues from Ribeira Seca.
 
I do have Maria Rodrigues b. 13.6.1616 from Vila Franca.
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton

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Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:18 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] TRILHADO surname



Hi Group,

 

Does anyone know anything about the TRILHADO surname?

 

António de Sousa Trilhado married to Maria Rodrigues, 17 Dec 1661, Ribeira
Seca, Ribeira Grande, S. Miguel.

 

Thank you

 

eliseu

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FW: [AZORES-Genealogy] TRILHADO surname

2010-07-23 Thread Linda Norton
Found it. 

11. António de Sousa Trilhado, casou em S. Pedro da Ribeira Grande a
17.12.1661 com Maria

Roiz, filha de Amaro do Monte e Margarida Roiz

Linda


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To: 'azores@googlegroups.com'
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Just going back and noticing I have Amaro Monte from Ribeira Seca m.
Margarida Rodrigues from Ribeira Seca.
 
I do have Maria Rodrigues b. 13.6.1616 from Vila Franca.
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton

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Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] TRILHADO surname



Hi Group,

 

Does anyone know anything about the TRILHADO surname?

 

António de Sousa Trilhado married to Maria Rodrigues, 17 Dec 1661, Ribeira
Seca, Ribeira Grande, S. Miguel.

 

Thank you

 

eliseu

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Douglas Borba

Hello Adair,

My Borbas are from Vila Nova, Terceira. Some moved to other islands, but I 
don't know who or when.

Doug
 


From: adair1...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:49:05 -0400
To: azores@googlegroups.com

I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather Manuel Egnacio(Ignacio) Borba from 
San Jorge, born about 1850...might there be a connection?  He came to the US as 
a young adult...


Adair


On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Karlushko wrote:





My ancestor is Caetano Silveira de Mattos from Sao Jorge.


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Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 13:22





Hello Douglas,
 
Could you tell me where your Borba line comes from?
 
Thanks,
Robin Borba Besotes
 

Researching:  Bettencourt, Borba, Barbe, Da Rosa, Jacinto, Rodrigues, Mattos, 
Jorge, Souto, Silveira, Canhoto
California Towns:  Newman, Turlock, Crowslanding, San Jose, San Juan, Tres 
Penos, Hollister, Watsonville, Pacific Grove, Miliptas
Azores:  Terceira, Sao Jorge, Faial, Pico, Flores
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Research on Faial

2010-07-23 Thread Karlushko
Obito do exposto, doesnt mean the exposto was a child. It could be an adulto too
 


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Data: Sexta-feira, 23 de Julho de 2010, 15:55


from what I understand obito do exposto someones died and are  lying in 
state  like a showing of the person that has died  ..t before easter nosso 
senhor esta exposto    


On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:28 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com wrote:

Carol,
An exposto is an abandoned baby, usually but not always at a church in the 
roda the little revolving chamber where babies could be left anonomously. So 
it is the obituary of an abandoned baby.
Regards,
John





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While doing research on the freguesia of Santa Catarina in the
Concelho of Castelo Branco on the island of Faial, I came across the
phrase of obito de exposto. The only thing I have been able to
figure out is that in two Portuguese-English Dictionaries it
translates as displayed deaths.  What does that mean?  Does it mean
an autopsy was done?  Any help would sure be appreciated.

Carol Warnock

Researching:  Pico, Faial, Terceira and Santa Maria.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Karlushko:
My andestors came to Brazil around 1745. It means that I couldnt connect
yours

unless your have your ancestors traced from Brazil to Azores untill the year
above.
My researches in Azores are from 1745 going down the years. For exemple, my
6 greatgrand father Caetano Silveira de Mattos, born in july8, 1725 died in
Brazil in 1800
My searches are his descendancy in Brazil and his ascendants in Azores. My
aim
is to follow his lineage not his cousings, nephews etc in Azores. I would go
for his
parents, grands, greatgrands and so on. I case Someone wat to connect me in
his
or her genealogy they would have to send me a name that conects with my
ancestors
lineage from 1725 down.

I am sending my azorian line through my grandemothers.

If anyone can do a connection or go further please let me know

Thank you
Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Borba Surname

2010-07-23 Thread Mary Bordi


On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Adair Borba wrote:

I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather Manuel Egnacio(Ignacio)  
Borba from San Jorge, born about 1850...might there be a  
connection?  He came to the US as a young adult...


Marcio Borba posts here, maybe he can help you. Or you can poke around  
his blog at http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/


He has some of his info posted there (scroll down a bit and look in  
the sidebar at the right for topics/names. I found that I am related  
to him. So are others on this list.


Mary Bordi

(Ancestors from Rosais and Norte Grande, Sao Jorge)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

2010-07-23 Thread eric edgar
Carlos,

I did not recive a file with Noia


Eric Edgar

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Karlushko bremen...@yahoo.com.br wrote:

   My name is Carlos Bertemes.
 My surname is from Luxemburg
 Karlushko is my nick name given by my late wife
 Its interesting what a name can do heheheheheh
 Makes me curious and you teach  name history
 as we say in portuguese VIVENDO E APRENDENDO
 or LIVING AND LEARNING

 I hope you could open the file sent where you could find Noia

 Thank you


 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA*
 *Pesquisando:*
 *Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
 Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
 Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro,
 Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
 Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto,
 Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues,
 Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,
 Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer,
 Jungklaus.*

 --- Em *qui, 22/7/10, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com* escreveu:


 De: eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com

 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 Para: azores@googlegroups.com
 Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 19:35


  Karlushko,

 Yes, but isn't Karlushko also an uncommon one?


 This is the entry in the Flores history book for the name:



 *Nòia * - Com raízes na Galiza, este apelido já exista nas Flores em
 meados do



 século XVII. , vindo, não se sabe bem quando, da ilha de Porto Santo.  Um
 tal



 Bartolomeu da Nòia,  casado com Ana Rodrigues, faleceu em 1692 en Santa
 Cruz,



 onde, de resto, haveriam tambem de casar quatro dos seus filhos: Manuel
 Rodrigues



 Nòia (1688), Maria Rodrigues (1690), Francisco Rodrigues Nòia (1694),
 Agueda



 Rodrigues (1696),  e João Rodrigues Nòia (1696). Por essa altura, o
 apelido já



 exista também  em Ponta Delgada, onde morava Belchior Gomes Nòia, casada



 com Isabel Rodrigues, pais de Gaspar e de Maria Rodrigues, que ali casaram,




 respectivamente em 1686 e 1689.







 My family descends from Belchior Gomes Nòia.





 Eric Edgar





  It is also found in Vila Franca, Sao Miguel from the mid 1600s, and in
 Porto Santo, Madeira from  the 1500s.



 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Karlushko 
 bremen...@yahoo.com.brhttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bremen...@yahoo.com.br
  wrote:

   Noia? Its strange for a portuguese surname

 *Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA*
 *Pesquisando:*
 *Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
 Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão,
 Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro,
 Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado,
 Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto,
 Nogueira, Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues,
 Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano,
 Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer,
 Jungklaus.*

 --- Em *qui, 22/7/10, 
 luv4h...@comcast.nethttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=luv4h...@comcast.net
 luv4h...@comcast.nethttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=luv4h...@comcast.net
 * escreveu:


 De: 
 luv4h...@comcast.nethttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=luv4h...@comcast.net
 luv4h...@comcast.nethttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=luv4h...@comcast.net
 
 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society
 Para: 
 azores@googlegroups.comhttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com
 Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Julho de 2010, 14:50


  Hi Henrietta,
 My family name is NOIA and I am interested in any Noia information you
 would like to share.  I have received information from the gem Eric who can
 fill your tree with many names and hopefully relatives!
 I sit here very quite on the list reading every day all the emails from the
 groupwaiting for a cousin connection.  It has been years now and I am
 still waiting for a connection on the list. One day LOL
 Theresa Court (Aguiar, Noia, Rodrigues, Silveira, Tosta, to name a few
 - Original Message -
 From: Harvey Jerome 
 jeronimo3...@att.nethttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jeronimo3...@att.net
 
 To: 
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 azores@googlegroups.comhttp://br.mc1104.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:36:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flores Genealogy and Drinking Society

  Hi Henrietta
 My family name is Jeronimo from Ponta Delgada,Flores. My greatgrandfathers
 name was Antonio  

[AZORES-Genealogy] Festas and Portuguese time

2010-07-23 Thread Cheri Mello
OK, when they say the festa starts at 7 pm with presentation of the incoming
queens, we know it's off by 15 - 20 minutes.

I've got to take Friday night freeway traffic into account, so my 30 minute
drive takes 90 minutes.  My appointment takes longer than expected and I
only have an hour to get there.  But the festa won't start at 7 pm.  It'll
start at 8pm.  The queens were in the beauty shop this afternoon.  The
jewelry shop next door was robbed and everything went into lock down.  After
4 hours, the queens escaped out the back door (or so goes one story going
around the hall) and make it to the festa so we can begin.

Here's the news feed:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/07/artesia-jewelry-store-robbery.html
(the hall would be off of Pioneer  179th, if there was a 179th St there).

Hope some of you make it to the festa for some excitement, but nothing as
exciting as that!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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