[AZORES-Genealogy] Death Record for Rosa Maria Vieira, Lomba, Flores

2010-10-03 Thread kristinamllr
Hi Everyone,

I can't believe my luck - I hope it lasts!  Thank you again to
Margaret for helping me with the translation for Deolinda Vieira's
baptismal record.  I just found the death record for her grandmother,
Rosa Maria Vieira.  Would Margaret or someone else mind helping me
with the translation for this one as well?  The page address is
below.  Thank you!

Kristina :-)


http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/FLFLOO1891-1900/FLFLOO1891-1900_item1/P22.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Beginning search Domingos (Domingues)/da Souza/Costa

2010-10-03 Thread yvonne domings
Cindy, Thanks! How are we connected?

Yvonne

On Oct 3, 12:57 pm, Cindy  wrote:
> I have the following birth record for these 3 people. I have the
> originals saved to my computer. If you would like me to forward them
> to you through your email just let me know. It give the place of birth
> and the inormation on the parents. Plus what the father did for a
> living. Cindy cokevw2...@yahoo.com
>
> Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
> Laura Susan Domingos 1911  Hudson  Birt  hVol 599Page 535
>
> Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
> Louis Domingos 1912  Hudson  Birth  Vol 607Page 556
>
> Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
> Mary Domingos 1914  Hudson  Birth  Vol 623Page 594
>
> On Oct 2, 7:38 am, yvonne domings  wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > I am new to the group and new to searching for ancestors. I wonder if
> > you all could help me get further information as I have exhausted
> > everything I know about or understand how to do at this point.
>
> > I am researching the line of my husband's grandparents João de Souza
> > Domingos (b.6 Jul. 1881) and Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891?). My
> > husband's grandfather João came to the Cambridge, MA on the Peninsular
> > on 18 Sep. 1896 (or 1898) and again in 1905.
>
> > João  married (4 Apr. 1910) Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891) and lived in
> > Hudson, MA before moving to Somerville during the 1920's.
>
> > João's parents are Pasqual Domingos (or Domingues) who married Maria
> > Jose (b. 1864 - one record says she was born in Lagoa). I believe the
> > family is from São Miguel (some records say Ponta Delgada, others say
> > Matriz.)
> > Other children of Pasqual and Maria Jose are
>
> > Manuel de Souza Domingos (b. 1883)
> > Louis de Sousa Domingos (b. 1889)
> > Maria de Sousa Domingos (b. 1891)
> > Albert de Souza Domingos (1893-1952)
> > Laura Souza Domingos (b. 1897)
>
> > Lipordinha's parents are Maria Santos and Manuel J. Costa (b. ~1855).
> > Lipordinha reportedly came to the US in 1906. Her sisters are Adelina
> > and Marianna who both married Manuel Custodio (Marianna died in
> > childbirth). I believe they may have had a brother named Antone.
> > Lipordina was also known as Pauline.
>
> > The last name Domingos was Anglicized to Domings by the 1930 census.
> > Joao (aka John) and Lipordinha's (aka Pauline) Domingos' children are
> > Laura (b. 1911)
> > Louis (b. 1912)
> > Mary (b. 1915)
> > William (b. 1916)
> > Arthur (b. 1920)
> > Edward (b. 1922)
> > Gloria (b. 1929)
> > Robert (b. 1930) (my f-i-l)
>
> > I have three questions or things that are puzzling me at the moment
> > that I would like the groups help with:
>
> > 1) The surname Domingos or Domingues?
> > Although I have records that João has written his name "Domingos," I
> > recently found information on a Maria Jose Domingues traveling to the
> > US multiple times under the spelling Domingues. She lists her son
> > Manuel (similar address in Cambridge and the correct occupation) as
> > her contact in the US so I'm pretty sure it is her. I'm not sure which
> > spelling is correct (Domingos or Domingues), as there seem to be
> > records for both spellings. People from Sao Miguel tell me that the
> > surname is most commonly spelled Domingues there with Domingos
> > commonly being a first name.
>
> > 2) The de Souza (or Sousa) name. A lot of the siblings of Joao had the
> > middle name which is actually how I found them. Would this be their
> > mother's maiden name or could it be another ancestor's name? I see
> > lots of people talking about others who use this middle name with a
> > different surname. I wonder if it is simply common or could there be a
> > link?
>
> > 2) Ship's manifest for Lipordina
> > I have not found the ships manifest for Lipordinha's of the other
> > Costas' arrival. I did find a manifest of the Romanic from 4 Jul 1906.
> > This keeps coming up but the name is Leopoldina Costa who is reported
> > to be 7 years old in 1906. The mother's name was right and they
> > reported to be meeting a Manuel Costa in Taunton, MA. The confusing
> > part of that is that she reported being 19 in 1910 when she got
> > married, so I'm not sure it is her. The name Lipordina (or Lipordinha
> > or Leopoldina) is unique enough that it keeps making me wonder. Any
> > insight anyone might provide is greatly appreciated
>
> > Do any of these names sound familiar to anyone? Do you have any
> > advice? I have very little information on the Costas. I believe they
> > were from São Miguel as well although I'm not positive. Someone told
> > me that many of the people who ended up in Hudson, MA were from Santa
> > Maria. I wonder about that as well.
>
> > All of this came from Family Search.org and Ancestry. I'm not sure
> > where to go from here. Any help or advice would be greatly
> > appreciated.
>
> > Yvonne Domings

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Beginning search Domingos (Domingues)/da Souza/Costa

2010-10-03 Thread yvonne domings
Cheri, Thanks for the info and the leads. I am looking at the CCA site
to see if I can find the passaportes of both grandparents.

Yvonne

On Oct 2, 1:33 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Hi Yvonne,
>
> 1) The surname Domingos or Domingues?
> Personally, I've seen Domingos more.  When it is pronounced, it sounds like
> Domings, which is how you got the spelling of your surname.  However, in "A
> History of the Azores Islands," by James H. Guill, he has seen both
> spellings (Domingos and Domingues) recorded in the records.  They may have
> be interchangeable back in time.  In modern Portuguese, perhaps one is more
> of a first name and one is more of a surname, but since I only read old
> Portuguese, I'll let the native speakers address that one.
>
> 2) The de Souza (or Sousa) name.
> It could be a name from the mother or it could be the name from another
> ancestor.  Souza (old Portuguese) or Sousa (modern Portuguese) is either the
> most common surname or the 2nd most common.  I remember reading somewhere
> that Silveira and Sousa are the most common, but I don't remember where I
> read that and which was 1 and which was 2.  The de,do, da, is just a prefix
> to the surname.
>
> 3) Ship's manifest for Lipordina
> I assume you are talking about the American arrival records.  Go look at the
> manifests LEAVING the Azores.  They are called "Passaportes" and they are on
> the CCA site here:http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ Right now, they are
> online only for the port of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel, so you are in luck
> there.  You can probably find Joao de Souza Domingos coming both times and
> you should be able to find Lipordinha.  From the Portuguese end, the should
> be spelling her name close to correctly for that time period.  They are in
> Portuguese, but just zoom and and start reading the names.  If you need
> help, copy the whole URL (www. thing) and paste it and people from this list
> will help you read the rest.  (Note:  Sometimes posting the web address
> (URL;www.thing) will get you caught in the spam filter, but don't worry,
> I'll release it.)  Also, use any browser except Firefox to look at the CCA
> site (use Internet Explorer, Chrome, Safari, etc).  Firefox stops working
> right before you view the image.
>
> 4) FamilySearch and Ancestry
> Don't trust either one until you find the ORIGINAL source they used.  Many
> family stories are just that - stories.  Some have a grain of truth.  My 76
> year old dad is getting used to me picking his brain about family history
> stuff.  "Well, Grandpa said." and he proceeds to tell me the story.
> Then he says, "But Grandpa told me that when I was 7, 8, 9 and I don't know
> how much is fact and how much was Grandpa amusing us kids."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Baptismal Record for Deolinda Vieira

2010-10-03 Thread Kristina Miller
Hi Margaret,

Great!  Thanks so much for taking the time to do that.  My grandmother is so 
happy to have the information!

Kristina


--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

From: Margaret Vicente 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Baptismal Record for 
Deolinda Vieira
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 12:02 PM

Hi Kristina,
It reads:"On the 3rd day of the month of September year 1892 in this Parochial 
Church of Saint Caetano.  Church of Lomba region of Vila of Lajes island of 
Flores Diocese of Angra.  I solemnly baptized an individual of the feminine sex 
whom I gave the name of Deolinda who was born in this Parish about 7 am of the 
said month and year.  Legitimate daughter of Antonio Jose Vieira and of 
Francisda Trindade de Sousa, farmers (agriculture), naturals and received in 
this Parish, residents of rua (street) da Canada da Penhora of this referred 
village. Paternal grandchild of Jose Francisco Vieira and Rosa Maria, maternal 
of Joao de Sousa Almeida and Maria da Trindade de Sousa.  Godfather was Antonio 
de Sousa Almeida, married, and Godmother Maria Vieira, housekeeper, both 
single, whom I know all to be the proper.  And to confirm I wrote this record 
in duplicate which after having been read and confirmed before the Godparents, 
signed by the Godmother due to the
 Godfather not knowing how to write.  era est supra.  The Rector Jose Francisco 
de Moraes."

Margaret Vicente

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, kristinamllr  wrote:

Hi Everyone,



Thank you for the great research info!  I just tried the http://pg.azores.gov.pt

site with Internet Explorer and was able to find my great

grandmother's baptismal record!  Amazing!  I can read some of it, but

not all.  Can anyone help me?  The page is pasted below.  I can read

that the baptism occurred in September 1892 (does it say the middle of

the month or the day?) and I see her parents names', Antonio Jose

Vieira and Francisca Trindada da Souza Almeida, but I'm not sure of

the other names and details included there.  Also, is anyone related?

Thanks!



Kristina





http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/FLFLOB1875-1900/FLFLOB1875-1900_item1/P183.html




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees

2010-10-03 Thread Pat Nostrome

Mary,

We had the same thing happen and took the trees down.  One cousin kept it but 
made it personal.  I finally convinced the person to take ours off by finding 
there correct connection and sending it to them.

Now someone has put part of ours on a tree that is related through marriage but 
keeps attaching wrong connections to us.  They say they are doing it for a 
friend so will not email me and I can only connect 
through the messages or comments.  So I keep adding comments on what is wrong.  
It is very frustrating.

I'm afraid the information was soon be so muddled that some actual relative 
will get the wrong information.  I wish Ancestry had a way to get things 
removed when you could show your proof.

Pat (Dutra/Anselmo) Nostrome








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From: Mary Bordi 
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees


On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:19 AM, PlumSweetUSA wrote: 
 
> Anyway, for the first time I was able to see other family trees 
> with many of my same ancestors & I don't remember them being that 
> evolved a few months ago. 
 
Just a caution about personal trees you find on ancestry. I had someone take 
some of my information and just add it to their tree. We are definately NOT 
related, at least in THAT line, but they took my info (with a misspelling of 
one place name) and used it. Along with the misspelling they also entered some 
other detailed information exactly as I had it, so I know they got it from my 
tree and not from their own research. (Well, I guess they thought finding my 
information was research!) They didn't link to it using Ancestry's feature to 
do so--in fact, they may have done it before this was implemented. 
 
When I contacted the tree owner, she said she'd gotten the info from her 
sister. As if that made it fact. Go figure. 
 
And now you can get Ancestry "hints" for people in your tree. I've now seen my 
ancestors who were listed wrongly in the tree I mentioned above being picked up 
by others because they see them as "hints" on THAT tree and do no research at 
all--they just click to connect them to their tree! I know this is where they 
are coming from because of the misspelled place name that the original (and 
mistaken) person used. 
 
Sigh. 
 
I think some people are so eager to connect that they think Ancestry has done 
all the research and is presenting them with verified information as "hints". 
 
So be careful what you find in those other trees! 
 
Mary Bordi 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Baptismal Record for Deolinda Vieira

2010-10-03 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Kristina,

It reads:
"On the 3rd day of the month of September year 1892 in this Parochial Church
of Saint Caetano.  Church of Lomba region of Vila of Lajes island of Flores
Diocese of Angra.  I solemnly baptized an individual of the feminine sex
whom I gave the name of Deolinda who was born in this Parish about 7 am of
the said month and year.  Legitimate daughter of Antonio Jose Vieira and of
Francisda Trindade de Sousa, farmers (agriculture), naturals and received in
this Parish, residents of rua (street) da Canada da Penhora of this referred
village. Paternal grandchild of Jose Francisco Vieira and Rosa Maria,
maternal of Joao de Sousa Almeida and Maria da Trindade de Sousa.  Godfather
was Antonio de Sousa Almeida, married, and Godmother Maria Vieira,
housekeeper, both single, whom I know all to be the proper.  And to confirm
I wrote this record in duplicate which after having been read and confirmed
before the Godparents, signed by the Godmother due to the Godfather not
knowing how to write.  era est supra.  The Rector Jose Francisco de Moraes."

Margaret Vicente

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, kristinamllr  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Thank you for the great research info!  I just tried the
> http://pg.azores.gov.pt
> site with Internet Explorer and was able to find my great
> grandmother's baptismal record!  Amazing!  I can read some of it, but
> not all.  Can anyone help me?  The page is pasted below.  I can read
> that the baptism occurred in September 1892 (does it say the middle of
> the month or the day?) and I see her parents names', Antonio Jose
> Vieira and Francisca Trindada da Souza Almeida, but I'm not sure of
> the other names and details included there.  Also, is anyone related?
> Thanks!
>
> Kristina
>
>
>
> http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/FLFLOB1875-1900/FLFLOB1875-1900_item1/P183.html
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees

2010-10-03 Thread celeste perry
You bring up a very valid point, Mary. 
 
 I have had 3 different people contact me because of an email I sent to a list 
more than 5 years ago.  Because of the unusual name I was researching, the name 
came up when a search of "the internet" was done and my email came up.
 
In my case, it presented an opportunity for me to meet a formerly unknown to me 
half brother in MA, a half nephew, in CA; a half niece from OK;  and a half 
niece from MA.  Each of them was from different child my biological father had 
fathered.  I never knew or even met my biological father; however, really got 
around from Faial to MA and to CA!!!
 
Every thing we put in the internet lives forever and is accessable to anyone.  
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Mary Bordi  wrote:


From: Mary Bordi 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 1:35 PM



On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:19 AM, PlumSweetUSA wrote:

> Anyway, for the first time I was able to see other family trees
> with many of my same ancestors & I don't remember them being that
> evolved a few months ago.

Just a caution about personal trees you find on ancestry. I had someone take 
some of my information and just add it to their tree. We are definately NOT 
related, at least in THAT line, but they took my info (with a misspelling of 
one place name) and used it. Along with the misspelling they also entered some 
other detailed information exactly as I had it, so I know they got it from my 
tree and not from their own research. (Well, I guess they thought finding my 
information was research!)  They didn't link to it using Ancestry's feature to 
do so--in fact, they may have done it before this was implemented.

When I contacted the tree owner, she said she'd gotten the info from her 
sister. As if that made it fact. Go figure.

And now you can get Ancestry "hints" for people in your tree. I've now seen my 
ancestors who were listed wrongly in the tree I mentioned above being picked up 
by others because they see them as "hints" on THAT tree and do no research at 
all--they just click to connect them to their tree! I know this is where they 
are coming from because of the misspelled place name that the original (and 
mistaken) person used.

Sigh.

I think some people are so eager to connect that they think Ancestry has done 
all the research and is presenting them with verified information as "hints".

So be careful what you find in those other trees!

Mary Bordi

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel

2010-10-03 Thread celeste perry
Here is how my husband's family relates to this line, 6 different ways:
Descendants of JOAO RODRIGUES REGO CUNHA
1 JOAO RODRIGUES REGO CUNHA b: Abt. 1495 in Porto, Portugal/Joao Ventura 
. 2 JOAO VAZ do REGO b: Abt. 1520 in Porto, Portugal/Joao Ventura 
. 3 GONCALO do REGO b: Abt. 1532 in Porto, Portugal/Joao Ventura 
... +ISABEL PIRES RODOVALHO b: Abt. 1542 in Porto, Portugal/Joao 
Ventura m: Bef. 1562 in Sao Miguel, Azores (second marriage)
 4 BELCHIOR BALDAIA do REGO b: Abt. 1562 in Porto, Portugal/Joao 
Ventura 
.. +[936] ISABEL RODRIGUES RAPOSO b: Abt. 1562 in Ponta Delgada, 
Sao Miguel, Azores/Joao Ventura/Diana m: Abt. 1880 in Ponta Delgada, Sao 
Miguel, Azores
 5 [937] GASPAR BALDAIA do REGO b: Abt. 1581 in Ponta Delgada, Sao 
Miguel, Azores/Diana 
.. +[938] CLARA de VASCONCELOS b: Abt. 1573 in Ponta Delgada, 
Sao Miguel, Azores m: Bef. 1602 in Fenais da Luz, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, 
Azores/Diana
... 6 [939] BELCHIOR BALDAIA do REGO b: Abt. 1602 in Ponta Delgada, 
Sao Miguel, Azores/Diana 
. +[940] MARIA FRANCO b: Abt. 1602 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel, Azores/Diana m: Feb 27, 1622 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, 
Azores/Diana**
... 7 [941] GASPAR DO REGO BALDAIA b: Bet. 1622 - 1648 in 
Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores 
. +[942] ISABEL DE MEDEIROS b: Bef. 1648 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores m: Dec 16, 1668 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, 
Azores**
.. 8 [943] FRANCISCO do REGO BALDAIA b: Bef. 1691 in Lagoa, 
Sao Miguel, Azores 
 +[944] JOANA CORREIA b: Bef. 1691 in Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel, Azores m: Oct 29, 1701 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores/Rodrigo 
Rodrigues book
.. 9 [945] PEDRO de REGO b: Jun 26, 1715 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores/Gerry 
 +[946] FELICIA PAVAO b: Abt. 1737 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores m: Jul 23, 1751 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, 
Azores/Rodrigo Rodrigues book
. 10 [66] ANA da CONCEICAO do REGO b: May 29, 1754 
in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores/Rodrigo Rodrigues/Diana & George Pacheco 
... +[65] ANDRE da COSTA do REGO b: Apr 14, 
1751 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores(Rodrigo Rodrigues)/Gerry m: Dec 16, 
1777 in Rosairo, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores**
. 11 [67] JOSE do REGO COELHO b: Mar 02, 1782 
in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores** 
... +[68] ANTONIA JACINTA da CONCEICAO b: 
Abt. 1785 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores m: May 18, 1801 in NS do 
Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores**
 12 [69] MANUEL do REGO COELHO b: Jan 19, 
1803 in NS do Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azore/Diana 
.. +[70] RICARDA TOMASIA de JESUS b: 
Mar 03, 1816 in NS do Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azore/Diana m: Oct 05, 1835 
in NS doRosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores(related 4th degree)
 13 [71] MARIA dos ANJOS b: Apr 06, 
1856 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores** 
.. +[72] ELIAS da COSTA VERNANCIO 
b: May 11, 1829 in NS do Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores** m: Sep 29, 1873 
in NS do Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores**
... 14 [85] MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA b: 
Mar 27, 1888 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores** 
. +[86] JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA 
b: Jun 18, 1869 in NS do Piedade, Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel, Azores** m: Oct 02, 
1907 in Church of Our Lady of the Rosary, Providence, RI, USA**
... 15 [35] ADELINE (LENA) CANTO 
SILVA b: May 03, 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA** 
. +[34] SERAPHINE EDWARD 
PERRY b: Aug 23, 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA** m: Nov 15, 1933 in East 
Providence, RI, USA
.. 16 [36] ROBERT EDWARD PERRY 
b: Oct 23, 1935 in Providence, RI, USA** 
 +[37] CELESTE NORINE 
LEWIS b: Jan 14, 1938 in Hayward, CA, USA** m: Jul 08, 1956 in All Saints, 
Hayward, CA, USA**
.. 8 [966] DOMINGOS do REGO b: Bet. 1668 - 1776 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores 
 +[967] INES de MEDEIROS de SOUSA b: Abt. 1668 in 
Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores m: Mar 03, 1696 in Rosairo, Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel, Azores/Rodrigo Rodrigues)**
.. 9 [968] TERESA de MEDEIROS b: Abt. 1728 in Rosario, 
Lagoa, Sao Miguel, Azores 
 +[969] JOAO de PIMENTEL b: Abt. 1728 in Achada 
Grande, Porto Formoso, Sao Miguel, Azores m: Mar 22, 1744 in Rosairo, Lagoa, 
Sao Miguel, Azores**

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees

2010-10-03 Thread Mary Bordi


On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:19 AM, PlumSweetUSA wrote:


Anyway, for the first time I was able to see other family trees
with many of my same ancestors & I don't remember them being that
evolved a few months ago.


Just a caution about personal trees you find on ancestry. I had  
someone take some of my information and just add it to their tree. We  
are definately NOT related, at least in THAT line, but they took my  
info (with a misspelling of one place name) and used it. Along with  
the misspelling they also entered some other detailed information  
exactly as I had it, so I know they got it from my tree and not from  
their own research. (Well, I guess they thought finding my information  
was research!)  They didn't link to it using Ancestry's feature to do  
so--in fact, they may have done it before this was implemented.


When I contacted the tree owner, she said she'd gotten the info from  
her sister. As if that made it fact. Go figure.


And now you can get Ancestry "hints" for people in your tree. I've now  
seen my ancestors who were listed wrongly in the tree I mentioned  
above being picked up by others because they see them as "hints" on  
THAT tree and do no research at all--they just click to connect them  
to their tree! I know this is where they are coming from because of  
the misspelled place name that the original (and mistaken) person used.


Sigh.

I think some people are so eager to connect that they think Ancestry  
has done all the research and is presenting them with verified  
information as "hints".


So be careful what you find in those other trees!

Mary Bordi

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-03 Thread celeste perry
Casa 28,
   I also have a friend, she is currently in Porto, and will return next week.  
Her name is Connie Coelho and she was born in Vila Nova, Terceira.  She was 
married to a Borba and when I emailed her about your search, she said she knew 
both Borba and Coelho families from there.  
   I am pretty sure once she recovers from jet lag, she will contact you.  
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Sat, 10/2/10, casa28  wrote:


From: casa28 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM


Thanks Cheri.  I will email Mr.Ramos for sure.

On Oct 2, 1:40 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Casa28,
>
> Al Ramos who is on this list has done extensive work in Vila Nova.  He has
> created some indices for the church there, although I do not know if they
> come all the way to 1890.  They may stop before then.  Al should see this
> message, but you may also want to email him directly at apr276 at juno dot
> com.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancesrty.com world trees

2010-10-03 Thread PlumSweetUSA
Hey Guys,   This last post today seemed very familiar to me. I'll have
to check my database. What I noticed last nite that I didn't see
before at Anc.com is that when I clicked on see my trees I can also
click on others searching for my names & get a bunch of close & closer
trees with whole lines of mine in their trees as well. The problem is
that the only way to email the tree owners is the abbreviated address
Anc. gives them & many don't go there often. I have one line my grand
mother Maria Emilia Do Socorro & her extended families going way back
that I've found on a few of the public trees. This must be a "key"
line. Anyway, for the first time I was able to see other family trees
with many of my same ancestors & I don't remember them being that
evolved a few months ago. I quit the subscription a few months ago for
$$ reasons, but now I'm back on the world subscription for $32 a
month. I think it's worth it.
http://www.rootsmagic.com/Try/GenSmarts/default.aspx   copy & paste
these to look them over.

http://www.ohanasoftware.com/?sec=lessons

  Has anyone else found their same families on other trees but had
different birth countries? Like nearly all of my ancestors that came
from the Azores were from Terceira. They moved around a bit & some
immigrated to US or Brazil but most stayed in Azores. Well, this one
family I was talking about lists the birth places of a couple of men
as Killarny, Ireland but the dates & marriages & places don't make any
sense to me that they could have been born in Ireland. I've seen
stranger mixups have happened. New Family Search is betting better
too. What a delliema, for years it was very difficult to get the data
on one man & his family, etc.  Now a days it's almost too much to
handle. I'm keeping good records so I don't research the same names
over & over. God bless these Portuguese parents had a way of naming
their children same, similar & duplicate names . fun figuring them
out now unless they gave very good dates & facts to tell the kids
apart. Ya just love 'em
 huh? Also if anyone is interested in a free program from RootsMagic
(can be used with most all others tho< it goes out & searches all
instances of your names & birthdates, & every thing else possible,
from all over the internet & gives you that list of suggestions on
where to look for validation or verification. It's Called
"GetMyAncestors" from Rootsmagic.com web page to download free. Also a
cheap program is available called GenSmarts for $24 that does similar
with your database it pulls the names & offers suggestions on where to
look for what kind of record depending on common sense possibilities
of their location at the time, child's schools & many other places
like to ancestry.com (which I like better in the first place), But
GenSmarts you don't have to type the info in the search bar. The
program searches your database & lists them for you with suggestions
for each name. It's only records in the US & a couple in england but
interesting for a lot og ways to fill in missing data. Happy
Researching. Let me know if you want a link to those sites.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Baptismal Record for Deolinda Vieira

2010-10-03 Thread kristinamllr
Hi Everyone,

Thank you for the great research info!  I just tried the http://pg.azores.gov.pt
site with Internet Explorer and was able to find my great
grandmother's baptismal record!  Amazing!  I can read some of it, but
not all.  Can anyone help me?  The page is pasted below.  I can read
that the baptism occurred in September 1892 (does it say the middle of
the month or the day?) and I see her parents names', Antonio Jose
Vieira and Francisca Trindada da Souza Almeida, but I'm not sure of
the other names and details included there.  Also, is anyone related?
Thanks!

Kristina


http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/FLFLOB1875-1900/FLFLOB1875-1900_item1/P183.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Beginning search Domingos (Domingues)/da Souza/Costa

2010-10-03 Thread Cindy
I have the following birth record for these 3 people. I have the
originals saved to my computer. If you would like me to forward them
to you through your email just let me know. It give the place of birth
and the inormation on the parents. Plus what the father did for a
living. Cindy cokevw2...@yahoo.com

Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
Laura Susan Domingos 1911  Hudson  Birt  hVol 599Page 535

Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
Louis Domingos 1912  Hudson  Birth  Vol 607Page 556

Massachusetts Vital Records, 1911-1915
Mary Domingos 1914  Hudson  Birth  Vol 623Page 594

On Oct 2, 7:38 am, yvonne domings  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am new to the group and new to searching for ancestors. I wonder if
> you all could help me get further information as I have exhausted
> everything I know about or understand how to do at this point.
>
> I am researching the line of my husband's grandparents João de Souza
> Domingos (b.6 Jul. 1881) and Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891?). My
> husband's grandfather João came to the Cambridge, MA on the Peninsular
> on 18 Sep. 1896 (or 1898) and again in 1905.
>
> João  married (4 Apr. 1910) Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891) and lived in
> Hudson, MA before moving to Somerville during the 1920's.
>
> João's parents are Pasqual Domingos (or Domingues) who married Maria
> Jose (b. 1864 - one record says she was born in Lagoa). I believe the
> family is from São Miguel (some records say Ponta Delgada, others say
> Matriz.)
> Other children of Pasqual and Maria Jose are
>
> Manuel de Souza Domingos (b. 1883)
> Louis de Sousa Domingos (b. 1889)
> Maria de Sousa Domingos (b. 1891)
> Albert de Souza Domingos (1893-1952)
> Laura Souza Domingos (b. 1897)
>
> Lipordinha's parents are Maria Santos and Manuel J. Costa (b. ~1855).
> Lipordinha reportedly came to the US in 1906. Her sisters are Adelina
> and Marianna who both married Manuel Custodio (Marianna died in
> childbirth). I believe they may have had a brother named Antone.
> Lipordina was also known as Pauline.
>
> The last name Domingos was Anglicized to Domings by the 1930 census.
> Joao (aka John) and Lipordinha's (aka Pauline) Domingos' children are
> Laura (b. 1911)
> Louis (b. 1912)
> Mary (b. 1915)
> William (b. 1916)
> Arthur (b. 1920)
> Edward (b. 1922)
> Gloria (b. 1929)
> Robert (b. 1930) (my f-i-l)
>
> I have three questions or things that are puzzling me at the moment
> that I would like the groups help with:
>
> 1) The surname Domingos or Domingues?
> Although I have records that João has written his name "Domingos," I
> recently found information on a Maria Jose Domingues traveling to the
> US multiple times under the spelling Domingues. She lists her son
> Manuel (similar address in Cambridge and the correct occupation) as
> her contact in the US so I'm pretty sure it is her. I'm not sure which
> spelling is correct (Domingos or Domingues), as there seem to be
> records for both spellings. People from Sao Miguel tell me that the
> surname is most commonly spelled Domingues there with Domingos
> commonly being a first name.
>
> 2) The de Souza (or Sousa) name. A lot of the siblings of Joao had the
> middle name which is actually how I found them. Would this be their
> mother's maiden name or could it be another ancestor's name? I see
> lots of people talking about others who use this middle name with a
> different surname. I wonder if it is simply common or could there be a
> link?
>
> 2) Ship's manifest for Lipordina
> I have not found the ships manifest for Lipordinha's of the other
> Costas' arrival. I did find a manifest of the Romanic from 4 Jul 1906.
> This keeps coming up but the name is Leopoldina Costa who is reported
> to be 7 years old in 1906. The mother's name was right and they
> reported to be meeting a Manuel Costa in Taunton, MA. The confusing
> part of that is that she reported being 19 in 1910 when she got
> married, so I'm not sure it is her. The name Lipordina (or Lipordinha
> or Leopoldina) is unique enough that it keeps making me wonder. Any
> insight anyone might provide is greatly appreciated
>
> Do any of these names sound familiar to anyone? Do you have any
> advice? I have very little information on the Costas. I believe they
> were from São Miguel as well although I'm not positive. Someone told
> me that many of the people who ended up in Hudson, MA were from Santa
> Maria. I wonder about that as well.
>
> All of this came from Family Search.org and Ancestry. I'm not sure
> where to go from here. Any help or advice would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Yvonne Domings

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-03 Thread casa28
Hello all,

First off,  thank you for responding my post.  I have directly email
to Mr.Ramos and unfortunately the records are before 1879.  I have to
find more information about Narciso and his wife Rita so I can
continue my search.  Douglas, I will keep you in mind once I hit the
early 1800's, just in case we can be connected.

Maria N.

On Oct 2, 2:05 pm, Douglas Borba  wrote:
> Hi,
> My Borbas are from Vila Nova (Lourenço de Borba actually). I have them from 
> early 1800s back to 1600. Didn't do much research after that time as my line 
> migrated to Brazil, but it is excellent work and I have used to expand my 
> research that I'm putting in a book.
> Al's information is on microfilm (number 1224549 item 9) and you can check it 
> at a LDS Church's Family History Center close to you.
> Al also has a list covering Agualva.
>
> Douglas Collaço Borba
>
> From: gfsche...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:40:57 -0700
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
>
> Casa28,
>
> Al Ramos who is on this list has done extensive work in Vila Nova.  He has 
> created some indices for the church there, although I do not know if they 
> come all the way to 1890.  They may stop before then.  Al should see this 
> message, but you may also want to email him directly at apr276 at juno dot 
> com.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel

2010-10-03 Thread emc
Hi Linda:
 
>I'm glad Elizabeth you gave your info since I didn't have it
 
Sorry...I should have sent it sooner...just now getting back "in the swing" 
from vacations:-(
 
>.. and you know as we discussed that I have Manuel de Almeida de Andrade 
>Rodrigues from Sao Roque as my ggrandfather b. abt. 1855.
 
In looking through my files, the first "Almeida" name was attached to my 
grandmother, Margarida-Joaquina ALMEIDA-ANDRADE and siblingsIll have to go 
back to the actual baptism records to see if I can find anything else.
 
>Manuel was married to Maria da Gloria from Faja de Baixo. They had four 
>children: Odelia, Anton, my grandmother and Elise. Odelia married and went to 
>Canada with two children, Anton never married (spent all the money given to 
>him) and my grandmother and Elise had 17 children between the both of them, 
>but 10 of them died. Supposedly my ggrandfather was very wealthy. I think it 
>was a mill that he owned because some of what was left (equipment) went to my 
>grandmother and probably the other sisters as a dowry. I just remember my 
>mother telling me that her nephew who still lives in Ribeira Grande sold off 
>the last of everything back in the 80's/90's and my mom told him to keep the 
>money. She 
said it didn't add up to much supposedly. That's all I know about her maternal 
side.
 
Don't find any connection, as yet
 
>I will have to get certificates and see what I can find out. I know that 
>Celeste helped me when she went there in 07 and found quite a few Manuel 
>Rodrigues.
 
The only Rodriques I find is Manuel died 2 Jan 1870 who married 
Ignacia-Francisca de Mello 28 Apr 1793...
 
s/o Manuel Rodriques de Pimental and Rosa de Jesus-Bulhao
Rosa's parents were Pascal Leitre-Dutra and Catarina Bulhao
 
>Maybe someone may pick up something from this info and help us out.
 
That's what I am hoping:-)
 
Cheers,
 
Elizabeth

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