[AZORES-Genealogy] Google
Listers, Just finished reading Dick Eastman's letter for Plus Members.Went on Google to do some research, typed in my info Antone Vieira Anselmo and started reading over the results. Somewhere on the 3rd page was our groups postings from back in January where I posted a picture of a group of men outside Phoebe A, Hearst home, now called Castlewood Country Club. My original posting along with the picture and about 13 responses between others in our group were all there. I'm sure if I were to go on again this posting will be there also, as I am sure if someone was looking up Castlewood Country Club these postings would be there too. The good thing is that if someone is researching Antone Vieira Anselmo or another combo of the name then they would eventually read these e-mails.but I was surprised and naive to find our discussions open to the public on google. I guess it goes to the saying that NOTHING on the Internet is confidential or secure. So take note, and only give personal info (like phone numbers and addresses) when off the group site in private e-mails. Learning more everyday : ) Ally Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao Jorge -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
Maria Elena, Below is a youtube video to help you. Be sure to watch it to the end because it has a pizzelle maker like the one that you have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2VcDOTVNEYfeature=related My Mom's rosette iron worked differently because rosettes are deep fried. She dunked the iron in the batter and then dunked the iron that had the batter in hot oil. I watched a few youtube videos on pizzelles and they were interesting. From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 5:27:30 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Do u remember how she cooked with the straight handle one? Mine is a pizelle maker that I'd like to experiment with at least once but can't figure just hiw to use it. Maria Elena On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:46 AM, helen kerner hker...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Maria Natalia, The last time I had rosas (that's what I grew up calling them) was when I went to a bridal shower last year. Most of the guests were Azorean from the various islands and they were happy to see the delicious and beautiful rosas there. The iron that I have is similar to the one in the link that I sent but I remember my Mom using one with a straight handle. I remember something happened to that one but since I was young I don't remember what it was. The one with the straight handle was one that my Grandmother brought from the Azores. When I was young I remember going to meet an aunt who had recently arrived from Santa Maria and she showed my Mom the rosa iron that she brought. This same aunt made the rosas for my sister's wedding. Some day I will experiment and make a small batch. helen santa maria From: mnk kamis...@comcast.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 7:57:16 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Helen, I also have my mother's 'iron' for making the rosettes. Although I have never tried making them, I sure enjoyed eating them when I was a child. Maria Natalia On Aug 15, 9:15 am, Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net wrote: Katharine if you go on line and do a search of Malassada they have a few different site that show different variation. http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-make-malasadas/ Ed On Aug 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Katharine wrote: Muito obrigada para todos!!! (Thank you very much, everyone) The novel I'm translating takes place in Nordeste, São Miguel, although as someone whose father was ¾ Florentino, I appreciate Debbie's information as well, from a personal viewpoint -- since I know so little re my family's hidden Portuguese ancestry (such a huge, forbidden secret), and this adds another clue to my search for my own destroyed roots. Also, I find it interesting how some traditions are universal throughout the Azorean archipelago, while others can be unique even within a region of just one island! The fried-in-oil dough described by Gayle, Margaret, Cheri, Linda and Donna is surely what the novelist is referring to. Allegedly, malassadas in the eastern Azorean islands are the same as what are called filhós in the central and western groups. Is that correct? I also sent an email with this inquiry to an immigrant friend originally from near Nordeste, and he said his mother loved them, made them, and used a dough-cutter to give them their characteristic shape. I replied a little while ago asking if that was a rosette shape, since I've yet to find any pictures of Rosas do Egipto online, but have yet to receive a reply. Will keep you posted if I learn more. I left my native Bay Area for back East long ago (long before I knew of my Portuguese heritage). Where we live in the diaspora, I literally do not know a single Azorean-American -- NOT ONE :-( If, like some of you lucky ones, I lived near a Portuguese bakery, I'd be one of their steadiest customers -- and probably one of their plumpest ones as well!!! Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
Helen: Thanks for all the info on history of pizelle maker which goes back to 700 b c . I wonder if the Azoreanos just knew about this type of dessert and improvised and fried it. I read your email at 4 a m . Pretty neat. Just saw the u tube video also. With each new piece of info this mysterious implement is becoming more of part of the famy's history. If I had not photographed it for u, I never would have observed that it looked like it had been used with grease stains on the outside. You and the list have helped me to add more insight into these ancestors lives. I'm really looking forward to attempting to use this and pass knowledge on to daughters in law and grandchildren. Maybe include it in a photo book(?) Love to u in Sunnyvale (?) sounds like a nice place-- P.s. I think I have Andrade fm Santa Maria but must check I think it's Francisca De Andrade will get back 2. U on that. Maria Elena On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:03 AM, helen kerner hker...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Maria Elena, Below is a youtube video to help you. Be sure to watch it to the end because it has a pizzelle maker like the one that you have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2VcDOTVNEYfeature=related My Mom's rosette iron worked differently because rosettes are deep fried. She dunked the iron in the batter and then dunked the iron that had the batter in hot oil. I watched a few youtube videos on pizzelles and they were interesting. From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 5:27:30 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Do u remember how she cooked with the straight handle one? Mine is a pizelle maker that I'd like to experiment with at least once but can't figure just hiw to use it. Maria Elena On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:46 AM, helen kerner hker...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Maria Natalia, The last time I had rosas (that's what I grew up calling them) was when I went to a bridal shower last year. Most of the guests were Azorean from the various islands and they were happy to see the delicious and beautiful rosas there. The iron that I have is similar to the one in the link that I sent but I remember my Mom using one with a straight handle. I remember something happened to that one but since I was young I don't remember what it was. The one with the straight handle was one that my Grandmother brought from the Azores. When I was young I remember going to meet an aunt who had recently arrived from Santa Maria and she showed my Mom the rosa iron that she brought. This same aunt made the rosas for my sister's wedding. Some day I will experiment and make a small batch. helen santa maria From: mnk kamis...@comcast.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 7:57:16 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses? Helen, I also have my mother's 'iron' for making the rosettes. Although I have never tried making them, I sure enjoyed eating them when I was a child. Maria Natalia On Aug 15, 9:15 am, Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net wrote: Katharine if you go on line and do a search of Malassada they have a few different site that show different variation. http://www.mahalo.com/how-to-make-malasadas/ Ed On Aug 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Katharine wrote: Muito obrigada para todos!!! (Thank you very much, everyone) The novel I'm translating takes place in Nordeste, São Miguel, although as someone whose father was ¾ Florentino, I appreciate Debbie's information as well, from a personal viewpoint -- since I know so little re my family's hidden Portuguese ancestry (such a huge, forbidden secret), and this adds another clue to my search for my own destroyed roots. Also, I find it interesting how some traditions are universal throughout the Azorean archipelago, while others can be unique even within a region of just one island! The fried-in-oil dough described by Gayle, Margaret, Cheri, Linda and Donna is surely what the novelist is referring to. Allegedly, malassadas in the eastern Azorean islands are the same as what are called filhós in the central and western groups. Is that correct? I also sent an email with this inquiry to an immigrant friend originally from near Nordeste, and he said his mother loved them, made them, and used a dough-cutter to give them their characteristic shape. I replied a little while ago asking if that was a rosette shape, since I've yet to find any pictures of Rosas do Egipto online, but have yet to receive a reply. Will keep you posted if I learn more. I left my native Bay Area for back East long ago (long before I knew of my Portuguese
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Google
Ally, I have 2 choices for settings on this list. Private or public. If this list was private, I wouldn't have over 860 researchers who have discovered us. So it is public. The Rootsweb lists are public. Many Yahoo ones are too (that are genealogy related). I realize there are new people to the Internet and list-servs every day. So if someone publicly posts their address or phone, I remove it from the archive. It does not disappear from the entire Internet for a couple of weeks, though. However, since this is a public list, and because most genealogists want to connect with others, I leave it public. It's up to the user to post what they want out there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dessert called Rosas do Egipto [Rosas do Egito] or Egyptian Roses?
MUITO OBRIGADA to everyone who chimed in with information to help me solve this mystery (and whet my appetite!). I emailed some of your info to a friend who's a native of near where the novel is set on São Miguel, as well as Helen's link with all the photos -- and he confirmed that those are exactly as his mother made. Re the Scandinavian counterpart: Given both the Portuguese and the Scandinavians' long histories of seafaring, it hardly seems surprising that there's been centuries of cross-pollination of cuisines (not to mention perhaps also gene pools -- LOL!). Again, thank you to everyone for your help. If I encounter additional translating obstacles re Azorean food, I certainly know where to inquire!!! Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Google
Cheri, I get it now.and it all makes since. I just didn't realize how the Internet is intertwined and so very public. I will be more careful in the future, I don't think I've posted anything too personal in the past. Seeing our conversations on google just caught me by surprise. But I am going by Ava in the future : ) Ava : ) Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao Jorge In a message dated 8/16/2011 12:22:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Ally, I have 2 choices for settings on this list. Private or public. If this list was private, I wouldn't have over 860 researchers who have discovered us. So it is public. The Rootsweb lists are public. Many Yahoo ones are too (that are genealogy related). I realize there are new people to the Internet and list-servs every day. So if someone publicly posts their address or phone, I remove it from the archive. It does not disappear from the entire Internet for a couple of weeks, though. However, since this is a public list, and because most genealogists want to connect with others, I leave it public. It's up to the user to post what they want out there. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Google
Margaret, You made my day! And yes, thank you Cheri for taking care of us : ) Ava Vieira Anselmo in Ribeira Seca, Sao Miguel Pinheiro, Nunes, Silveira in Praia do Almoxarife and Pedro Miguel, Faial Silveira, Rodrigues in Sao Jorge -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
