Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel
Yes indeed Nancy On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi John, I'm wondering if this cousin of yours is the same Joao Antonio Gomes Vieira whom has published numerous books including O Homem e o Mar? Nancy Jean Baptista -- Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:34:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel From: gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com *A cousin of mine, Joao Antonio Gomes Vieira, retired curator of the museum in Santa Cruz , Flores, once told me that the Vasconcelos and Pimentel families were New Christians. He did not elaboate, that is, he didn't say if ALL Vasconcelos and Pimentels were New Christians or just those in our family. Possibly a family legend, but I'm offering this for what it's worth.* *John Vasconcelos * * * * * On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *The name is not necessarily a Jewish name. In tracing my line to Achada Grande I found no indication there is a New Christian in the records I have looked at which go back to the year 1700. Because you find some people using a surname that is Jewish does now mean the name is Jewish in origin. During the persecution many Jewish people adopted other names in attempts to hide their heritage.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Linda Norton *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:56 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel ** ** Is that a Jewish name? I did find years ago which I can’t find now a breakdown of names and their decent. I think it was areas of the island (Sao Miguel) that they settled in, but were from that particular religion or country that they descended from; i.e., Vila Franca (France). Does anyone have information on that? Linda Borges Furtado Norton *** This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, dissemination, or use of the information in this communication in any way is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this message to notify the sender and delete the original message from your e-mail account. For intended recipients, please safeguard any personal information included in this transmission. State laws may require you to take specific measures to secure personal information and notify individuals affected by any security breach of your physical and/or electronic files. Thank You. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.* *** -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ? On End of Lines
*Linda,* *I interpret end-of-line in the same sense that Cheri does in her reply to you, ie when there are no more records and you reach a brick wall. * *The issue of the end of a surname line is in my opinion a non-issue in Portuguese genealogy. In my family I can cite more than one example of a surname being passed through a woman to a later male surname line.* *John Vasconcelos.. * On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: When the males have no more sons on a surname line, but maybe carried down by the women, does that mean that line ends on that surname? My father and his two brothers have sons and daughters, but none of the sons had male children carried down so does that mean, that male surname ends on that line? Yet the daughters have carried sons down. What’s confusing is that the Portuguese women carried their mother’s and grandmother’s names down as their maiden names, not their father’s names (as one of my grandmother’s did) and some sons carried their mother’s surnames down (my ggrandfather) and not their father’s surname so how does that work on ending a line that may not be ending? This makes it more difficult by researching and saying that the line ended when maybe it’s not ended. Linda Borges Furtado Norton *** This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, dissemination, or use of the information in this communication in any way is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this message to notify the sender and delete the original message from your e-mail account. For intended recipients, please safeguard any personal information included in this transmission. State laws may require you to take specific measures to secure personal information and notify individuals affected by any security breach of your physical and/or electronic files. Thank You. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off-Topic?
I was Charged 20 Euros for the Birth Record and $25 Euros for the Marriage record from Island of Santa Maria from the civil registry. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Group-- This might be considered off-topic, and if it is, I apologize to the group in advance. About a month ago I sent off a letter to the Biblioteca Publica e Arquivo in Horta (Faial) and requested various birth, marriage and death records. Because I figured there was probably an increase in price since the listing of $15 US for each document, I enclosed a personal check for $25 US for each document. I received all of the death certificates but none of the rest as of today's mail. The interesting thing was the invoice/statement that was enclosed with the documents. I was charged at 20 Euros each for the research document plus 0.4 Euro for processing/mailing. At today's exchange rate that works out to be about $28.50 each. I just thought I would share this information in case anyone is interested. Carol Silva Warnock Researching Madruga, Vieira, Machado Goulart in Lajes do Pico; Silva Monteiro in Lajes do Pico Angra do Heroisimo on Terceira. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off-Topic?
One more thing From the Biblioteca Publica e Arquivo in Horta (Faial) you have to make sure you write a non certified. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Carol Warnock cdwarn...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Group-- This might be considered off-topic, and if it is, I apologize to the group in advance. About a month ago I sent off a letter to the Biblioteca Publica e Arquivo in Horta (Faial) and requested various birth, marriage and death records. Because I figured there was probably an increase in price since the listing of $15 US for each document, I enclosed a personal check for $25 US for each document. I received all of the death certificates but none of the rest as of today's mail. The interesting thing was the invoice/statement that was enclosed with the documents. I was charged at 20 Euros each for the research document plus 0.4 Euro for processing/mailing. At today's exchange rate that works out to be about $28.50 each. I just thought I would share this information in case anyone is interested. Carol Silva Warnock Researching Madruga, Vieira, Machado Goulart in Lajes do Pico; Silva Monteiro in Lajes do Pico Angra do Heroisimo on Terceira. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel
Hi John, I've met Joao. We spent a lovely afternoon with him several years ago. I had gone to the Escola de Artesanato near our adega in Santo Amaro, Pico and he was in there visiting with the women who own the school. My Portuguese is limited and the women and I always had difficulty conversing. One of them asked him to translate for us. That led to the most delightful afternoon! He told me I looked like a woman of Pico (he said the eyes)! and asked about my family names. I told him my Pico names of de Castro and Cardosa and that started him with the story of my Cardosa's were probably of Jewish descent and how they had become crypto jews. Needless to say I wanted to know more so he came and spent the afternoon with us. What a wealth of knowledge. I have a paper he wrote out for me with the names of all of his books and his address etc. I wish I had had a tape recorder that day because it was like being in class! Subsequently I found one of his books in the airport gift shop in Lajes. I have some very nice pictures of him we took that day. It was a memorable experience! I think he was on Pico to visit a brother of his. I haven't seen him the last couple of years and hope he's well. Best regards,Nancy Jean Baptista Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 03:24:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel From: gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Yes indeed Nancy On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi John, I'm wondering if this cousin of yours is the same Joao Antonio Gomes Vieira whom has published numerous books including O Homem e o Mar? Nancy Jean Baptista Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:34:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel From: gfsjo...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com A cousin of mine, Joao Antonio Gomes Vieira, retired curator of the museum in Santa Cruz , Flores, once told me that the Vasconcelos and Pimentel families were New Christians. He did not elaboate, that is, he didn't say if ALL Vasconcelos and Pimentels were New Christians or just those in our family. Possibly a family legend, but I'm offering this for what it's worth. John Vasconcelos On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: The name is not necessarily a Jewish name. In tracing my line to Achada Grande I found no indication there is a New Christian in the records I have looked at which go back to the year 1700. Because you find some people using a surname that is Jewish does now mean the name is Jewish in origin. During the persecution many Jewish people adopted other names in attempts to hide their heritage. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Norton Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] The name Pimentel Is that a Jewish name? I did find years ago which I can’t find now a breakdown of names and their decent. I think it was areas of the island (Sao Miguel) that they settled in, but were from that particular religion or country that they descended from; i.e., Vila Franca (France). Does anyone have information on that? Linda Borges Furtado Norton *** This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, dissemination, or use of the information in this communication in any way is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this message to notify the sender and delete the original message from your e-mail account. For intended recipients, please safeguard any personal information included in this transmission. State laws may require you to take specific measures to secure personal information and notify individuals affected by any security breach of your physical and/or electronic files. Thank You. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] nordeste
Hi Denise, I have ancestors from nordeste but not these ones as far as i am concerned... But one Ne Er know. I just found it in my research. I think it is usefull to do this kind of information. Sometimes a small hint saves us a pile of work. Enviado do meu iPad No dia 29/09/2011, às 23:45, Denise denise1...@aol.com escreveu: Hi Eliseu, These are my ancestors. You are correct about the name variations as well. Are you researching this family? Denise D'antona -Original Message- From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@sapo.pt To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2011 6:07 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] nordeste May be someone needs this information: Maria Rosa de Carvalho, married to Francisco Cabral de Mello, Nordestinho, 27 feb, 1832 I have found in my research that Maria Rosa de Carvalho, married to Francisco Cabral de Mello, is also Maria Jacinta de Carvalho and Maria Jacinta de Jesus eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca, S. Miguel ancestors
Yes, I have the films at my local FHC. What do you need? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Eliseu Pacheco da Silva To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca, S. Miguel ancestors I do! De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Marcio Borba Enviada: quarta-feira, 28 de Setembro de 2011 21:47 Para: azores@googlegroups.com Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca, S. Miguel ancestors Anyone on the list researches in Vila Franca, S. Miguel? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vierra family Pico
Do you have any dates of birth for the children of Manuel Vieira X Mary Azevedo??? Where? I will see if I can find anything for you. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: themom8...@aol.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vierra family Pico Researching my Portuguese ancestry and don't have much info on Vierra family. What I know for this family: Manuel Vieira (also spelled Vierra or Viera) born 10 March 1873, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores arrived in US about 1901, settled in Sacramento, CA and sent for his wife and children about 1904 father: Manuel Fernandes Vieira born approximately 1838, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores occupation: stone mason mother: Polqueria Jacinta born approximately 1847, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores maternal aunt: Mariana Jacinta Machado; lived in Sacramento, CA c.1940's, married to Manuel Machado Mary Azevedo born 15 August 1871, Azores married to Manuel Vieira about 1891 arrived in US about 1904 with children: Manuel, John, Joseph, Mary, Marshall Frank father: John Azevedo mother: unknown information for Manuel's parents is from an affidavit of birth completed in US and cannot verify accuracy. Do not know of siblings for Manuel or Mary. Any information or direction would be appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: António José Pacheco de Resende
George and Eliseu, are you sure about this? This would make Antonio almost 70 years old when he married Inacia Jacinta. I have his son, Jose Jacinto Pacheco Resendes married in Ponta Garca , Nov 4-1849, to Mariana Joaquina \Garcia de Abranches. So this would place the parents marriage at about 1820 as George says. Perhaps a second marriage for Antonio? But maybe Eliseu, you are looking for a different person? John Roias On Oct 1, 2:10 pm, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: They married 14 Jan 1820 in Maia On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@sapo.pt wrote: Hi group, Does anyone have ANTÓNIO JOSÉ PACHECO DE RESENDE (or Rezende, Resendes, Rezendes) born at MAIA, Ribeira Grande, S. Miguel 12 April 1753, married to Inácia Jacinta Pacheco may be in Ponta Garça? Any information would be very much apreciated!!! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vierra family Pico
In the early 1900's, the waiting period requirements for Immigrant petitions for family members to join them in the US was 3 years (citizens) or, 5 years (non-citizens). Manuel's family would probably not have been able to join him in the US until 1906, or later, considering the turmoil California was undergoing during that period. Have you checked the Sacramento City Directories from 1904 through 1910? 1910 census? ~ On Oct 1, 6:41 pm, themom8...@aol.com wrote: Researching my Portuguese ancestry and don't have much info on Vierra family. What I know for this family: Manuel Vieira (also spelled Vierra or Viera) born 10 March 1873, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores arrived in US about 1901, settled in Sacramento, CA and sent for his wife and children about 1904 father: Manuel Fernandes Vieira born approximately 1838, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores occupation: stone mason mother: Polqueria Jacinta born approximately 1847, Ribeirinha do Pico, Azores maternal aunt: Mariana Jacinta Machado; lived in Sacramento, CA c.1940's, married to Manuel Machado Mary Azevedo born 15 August 1871, Azores married to Manuel Vieira about 1891 arrived in US about 1904 with children: Manuel, John, Joseph, Mary, Marshall Frank father: John Azevedo mother: unknown information for Manuel's parents is from an affidavit of birth completed in US and cannot verify accuracy. Do not know of siblings for Manuel or Mary. Any information or direction would be appreciated. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ? On End of Lines
Portuguese children, whether male, or female, did not always use the father's surname, so the father's surname is not an apt way to determine whether a that surname line has survived or ended. What usually determined which surname a child took, was title, property, or wealth. I have ancestors where a family of three siblings - all from the same parents, yet, each had taken a different surname. ~~~ On Oct 1, 7:18 pm, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote: When the males have no more sons on a surname line, but maybe carried down by the women, does that mean that line ends on that surname? My father and his two brothers have sons and daughters, but none of the sons had male children carried down so does that mean, that male surname ends on that line? Yet the daughters have carried sons down. What's confusing is that the Portuguese women carried their mother's and grandmother's names down as their maiden names, not their father's names (as one of my grandmother's did) and some sons carried their mother's surnames down (my ggrandfather) and not their father's surname so how does that work on ending a line that may not be ending? This makes it more difficult by researching and saying that the line ended when maybe it's not ended. Linda Borges Furtado Norton *** This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any copying, distribution, dissemination, or use of the information in this communication in any way is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this message to notify the sender and delete the original message from your e-mail account. For intended recipients, please safeguard any personal information included in this transmission. State laws may require you to take specific measures to secure personal information and notify individuals affected by any security breach of your physical and/or electronic files. Thank You. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] francisco da silva
sorry - i still can't get the hang of using this group. About a yr ago John was very helpful - but i have made no progress since. I am wondering if i may still have relatives. my grandfather was franciscio da silva, dob OCT 22, 1882, village of Mosteiros, Parrish: Nossa Sonhora da Conceicao, council of Ponta Delgado, Azores. His father of the same village was Henrique da Silva married to Ana Jacinta de Medeiros Henrique's father was francisco da Silva and mother An Rosa from Banda de Alem. Anyone out ther related? Perhaps still in the same village. I think my grandfather came to the US about1905 - i think he had a brother named Manuel who also come to the US. i want to go to Mosteiros next year but would like to know more first ellen. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish Cemetery in Ponta Delgada
I found this link while doing research the other day. It is a jewish surname search and has some extensive family trees built. You may find something that pertains to you here. I'm right with you on the crypto jewish traditions and whispers. follow your hunch. http://americanjewisharchives.org/FAJF/search.php On Oct 1, 6:35 pm, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Margaret. I wondered if the Horta cemetery might've been for the openly Jewish immigrants who arrived post-1830. Like you (and some other Azoreans I know), there are aspects of my paternal family's attitudes that seem to correspond with the Hidden (or Crypto-) Jews, although unlike some of my Azor-descendant friends I have yet to identify specific family customs to which they adhered -- hardly surprising considering the great lengths to which they went to conceal their Portugueseness totally from me. Unfortunately, I can't imagine any of my (few) male relatives cooperating on a DNA test... (well, unless I sneak up behind them and snip off a lock of hair while they're napping-- LOL!). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] francisco da silva
Ellen, We are close to approaching 900 members. Not sure which John you are speaking about. Generally, people have to research back almost 200 years in order to find another genealogist researching their line. There have been a few lucky ones though who have posted. But I'd said 97% have to research about 200 years back. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
