Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Edward Ray (Reis), Hero of the 1976 Chowchilla School Bus kidnaping
Kathie, I don't recall if I ever met him. I seem to recall that when I was a teenager, we as a family (including my Uncle Jose Reis and Aunt Angelina and Uncle Jose Freitas who did the driving) went to visit older relatives in the Chowchilla area who I think were his parents. Since he was 12 years my senior he could very well have been married by then and living elsewhere. Note that In the AP obituary they quote his grand-daughter Robyn Gomes, (another clue.) The story I seem to recall about the name change is that there were other Reis families in the same area and that the mailman kept mixing up the mail so the father changed his name from Reis to Ray .I can't be sure about this but I think that Ed Ray's father (whose first name I don't recall) was either a half brother or possibly a first cousin of my Uncle Jose Reis. Cuz John On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: John, I remember when the kidnapping occurred, although living so far away by then, I didn't recall the trial and conviction. Today I saw the extensively detailed Associated Press (!) obituary in our local newspaper but did not realize that, owing to his surname Anglicization, Mr. Ray was in fact Azor-American (although it makes sense): http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/postgazette/obituary.aspx?n=frank-edward-ray-edpid=157682790 Did you ever meet Mr. Ray? Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] challenge
My gggrandparents didn't make the search for their wedding information easy especially since it's obvious my gggrandparents weren't all that accurate with what year it was when what information the family did have the years of events didn't quite match in most things. Now it's possible because new bedford, dartmouth and fairhaven were all one big city at one time. They got married at St. John the Baptist church in New Bedford, got their marriage license in Fairhaven, lived in South Dartmouth, but I finally have everything in the mail coming to me. I received the marriage certificate from the church and it has their full names and their parents full names, the clerk in Fairhaven read off the information on the license and it said more or less the same thing, but Fairhaven didn't have the application paperwork. But somehow Joan at the New Bedford library had access to that set of papers and it is in the mail to me as of last Thursday. Of course nobody has the same last names, parents to children, husbands to wives, so the search will expand by a couple more layers, I'm hoping that there will be more information with concern to where they are from. my gggrandfather and family clues lead to Faial, and my gggrandmothers family hails from Pico so at least I got a little closer. You guys have been great to me answering all my questions, pointing in new directions where to look. Mike--Pereira, Leal da Rosa,Anjos -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptismal Translation Help Needed Please!
Thank you to everyone who helped me once again! I really appreciate it. I hope you all have a wonderful day! Sherry In a message dated 5/19/2012 8:47:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dpai...@gmail.com writes: Correction: Godfather Joao Jacintho Pacheco, paternal grandfather of the baptized, and witnesses Joaquim Jose Dias, and his son Jacintho Dias -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help!
Hi Nancy: I looked at the Velas film and found the following: #645 Page 100 right DOMarriage: 9 Jan 1753 Joam de Sousa Parents: (Joam Teixeira X Lusia Cardosa) natives baptised Santa Barbara WIFE: Isabel do Rosario (Joam Machado Costa X Micaella _ Rosario) natives and bapt. Velas Hope this helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! Greetings Group, I have found my 5th ggrandparents marriage record in Velas.I'm having a very hard time translating his writing and all help would be greatly appreciated. Velas, Sao Jorge...marriages for 1734-1772 page 0102, Joam de Sousa and Isabel do Rosario Thank you in advance, Nancy Jean -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph
Thanks to both Cheri maria Lima for the useful hints. I been to Archives NZ and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't have. This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is very useful! The Obits Marriage papers were of no use either. I can only surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it not being english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 'Western Isles' on official documents. I have spent hours pouring over shipping lists and did find a Francis Joseph from Flores, who seems about the right age, travelled to Nantuckett, Nantuckett, Mass and later on was perhaps the same man sailing the Atlantic Pacific showing up in Australia. Both the time frame and age of the individual fits at various recorded points. However there is absolutely no proof it is my Gt Grandfather at this point. I haven't had much luck with either Ancestry.com or Mr Holmes' site. So here's hoping someone, some where may have some info, I read my Azores- Geneology emails every day and delight when someone gets some good news about an ancestor! Thanks, Tony --- On Sun, 20/5/12, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francis Joseph To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Cc: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 20, May, 2012, 7:06 AM Hi Tony Cheri is correct about the documents that will lead you to know where in the Azores he came from. If you could find the wife's name then you could look on pioneer index for more info. That is how I discovered info that lex ne to uncover much about our 2 gold miner great grandfathers (actually my husband's). If ge married an English girl, maybe she was Wesleyan. I learned that they were dissenters fm the Church of England, as was the case in one of our ancestors. Your gr grandfather was born a few year before our 2guys 1836 and 1838 but there were several siblings born before them. They were drawn to Australia by the goldfields. Any family stories that would give more of a clue? I was able to get the marriage certificate for my husband's gr grandfather and that's how I knew they were married by theWesleyan minister. I alzo found them on unassisted passengers comment on the ship Water Lily in 1853. Are there museums in the New Zealand area where they preserve names and history like they have in Victoria. Try cemetery where the family lived. Sounds like stayed put in one area (?) so if he was a carpenter maybe he made furniture- the old newspapers had many ads. I learned slot about out guys from the Creswick and Clunes daily Register and Advertiser. Then I sent away to the public records office Victoria for each of 18 articles where their names are mentioned. It is tedios but peopke in Victoria were amazingly helpful as I live in the US. I hope you keep looking and you will find him. My husband's gr grandfathers were J J DE LIMA and their father was Antonio José. Best of luck Maria Elena On May 19, 2012, at 2:49 AM, Tony tone2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Francis Joseph was born in 1833, some where in the Azores. His Father was carpenter named Antonio. We don’t know the name of his Mother. Francis left the Azores as a young boy and spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand. He was then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here. He never became a naturalised citizen of New Zealand. In 1883, at the age of 50 years he married an English woman in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand and they had 3 children. Francis died there in August 1917 aged 84 years. We do not know which island he came from and if anyone in the room has any connection or knowledge of him or his family I’d be very grateful to hear from you. He is my Gt Grandfather. My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady from America came looking for our family. Perhaps we have some American relatives? Thanks, Tony -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the
[AZORES-Genealogy] translating Portuguese to English
Hello, I would like to give you a suggestion that may help you translate some Portuguese words. I know very little Portuguese. I have found the translate.google.com website helpful in translating some words. It doesn't translate everything, but it has helped me with a lot of words. Good Luck, Laura The link is below: For Portuguese to English translation either enter the word translate into a search engine or go to translate.google.com On May 19, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Dano wrote: Jose Jacinto Dias, paternal grandfather, is padrinho (godfather), and, his son Jacinto Dias, is testemunha (witness). On Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:36:06 PM UTC-4, Sherry wrote: I have found a baptismal record I can understand most of it I think. I need help with the information concerning the Padrinho (Godfather). I understand the godfather is the paternal grandfather. It is the information after that which I don't understand. I am hoping a kind person will help me once again. Oh how I wish I could read Portuguese! I have been trying to read these documents for years. You would think I would get better! I can usually read the dates get most of the information I am looking for but then they go throw in some things I don't understand. This is what I think this record tells me: Filomeno, son of Francisco Jose Pacheco Victoria Cherubina, both from Senhora da Conceicao Parish in Ribeira Grande. Born 7 Jan 1845, baptized 23 Jan 1845. Godfather Joao Jacintho Pacheco, paternal grandfather..(this is where I get lost) I don't understand who Joaquim jose Dias is. It looks like the work mother is before his name.And then there is Jacintho Dias. I'm lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much! Sherry On Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:36:06 PM UTC-4, Sherry wrote: I have found a baptismal record I can understand most of it I think. I need help with the information concerning the Padrinho (Godfather). I understand the godfather is the paternal grandfather. It is the information after that which I don't understand. I am hoping a kind person will help me once again. Oh how I wish I could read Portuguese! I have been trying to read these documents for years. You would think I would get better! I can usually read the dates get most of the information I am looking for but then they go throw in some things I don't understand. This is what I think this record tells me: Filomeno, son of Francisco Jose Pacheco Victoria Cherubina, both from Senhora da Conceicao Parish in Ribeira Grande. Born 7 Jan 1845, baptized 23 Jan 1845. Godfather Joao Jacintho Pacheco, paternal grandfather..(this is where I get lost) I don't understand who Joaquim jose Dias is. It looks like the work mother is before his name.And then there is Jacintho Dias. I'm lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much! Sherry -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: St Johns Cemetery Book
Katherine, Thank you very much for the translation, including my mistake (marriage vs death) with Leonard. I was going to use the online translation but I knew it would be somewhat chopped up and after working 14 days straight I needed to go to bed. Appreciate your help! Michelle - Original Message - From: Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: St Johns Cemetery Book Here's a quick translation -- hope it helps (had to rearrange the first sentence of the obit so it wouldn't sound strangled). Just let me know if you have any further questions. Katharine. = = = = = = = = = = Following a brief illness, Mr. Manuel Correia Silva, 89 years of age and a native of Graciosa, Azores, who resided in this country for 75 years, died yesterday at his residence, 14 Columbia Street in this city. The deceased was married to Mrs. Laura Mendonça Silva, whom he leaves a widow, and was employed as a barber, having retired many years ago to private life. Besides his widow, he is survived by two daughters, Mrs. Mary Burke of New Bedford and Anna Keyes of Fairhaven; two sons, Leonard of North Dartmouth [MA.] and Dr. M. Curtis of Providence, RI; seven grandchildren, three great-grandchildren, and several nephews and nieces. His funeral will be held next Thursday, with the funeral procession leaving the Williams Funeral Home, 1 Washington Square, at 7 AM for St. John the Baptist Church, where a [sung?] Requiem Mass will be celebrated starting at 7:45 AM, [then] the body will be buried in the family plot in St. John cemetery. Guests are respectfully invited to greet relatives and friends of the deceased. Viewing hours, 2-5 and 7-10 PM. - - - - - - - - - - Last Saturday the wedding of Leonard Correia Silva of New Haven, Conn., and Catherine Virginia Mullarkey of this city was performed at St. James Church, the ceremony having been conducted by Rev. Father Walter J. Buckley. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Edward Ray (Reis), Hero of the 1976 Chowchilla School Bus kidnaping
Yup, I spotted that granddaughter surnamed Gomes, but just figured she (or her mother) was an Anglo (or other ethnicity) who married Portuguese -- as did my mother; I believe that's called projection :-) Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: St Johns Cemetery Book
Katharine and Michelle, You are both now officially incredible. Thank you so much. Would it be possible to identify the name and date of the publication with my Grandfather's obit. It only says that he died yesterday. Most of the other family history you found, I already had, except that it took me months to find what you apparently did in minutes. Thanks again, Len Silva On Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46:31 PM UTC-4, Leonard Silva wrote: I am a newbie here and found this group by Googling St Johns cemetery. I understand there is a book of burial records available. I am 69 years old and started researching my roots less than a year ago. I am finding that I need accurate death dates to get anywhere and I'm hoping to get some help here. My grandfather was Manuel Correia Silva b. 16 Nov 1867 at Covas, Graciosa. He arrived in New Bedford on 22 Apr 1882 at the age of 15. Family lore says he came as a stowaway. He was a well known and successful barber in New Bedford from 1883 until his retirement around 1937. I think that everyone in the family came from Covas or Fontes, Graciosa. He married Anna or Anne Mendonca in 1886. She was also from Covas. They had four children, Mary b. 3 Jan 1887, Anna b. 12 Feb 1891, Manuel Jr. b. 15 jun 1898 and Charles b. 16 Jun 1899. Those last two dates are suspect. Mary married Edmund Burke and Anna married John Key. Anne died on 22 Dec 1909 and is buried at St. Johns. Manuel married Laurentina Mendonca on 12 Jun 1911 and they had a son Leonard Correia b. 6 Feb 1921. Others buried in what I think is a family plot might be Charles who died sometime between 1937 and 1940, Manuel Sr. who I think died in 1956, Laura or Laurentina about 1957-58. Other family names that might be there are Mendoza, Mendonca, Espindola, Medeiros. I am hoping to find actual death dates for any of these ancestors. Thanks you very much. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: St Johns Cemetery Book
Leonard, I found his obit in the Diario de Noticias paper dated October 11, 1955. It's a Portuguese-American Newspaper available online @ https://news.arcasearch.com/usmaums/ The link below gives you information on how it came to be: http://www.lib.umassd.edu/archives/paa/PADigitalNewsColl.html Regards, Michelle - Original Message - From: Leonard Silva To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: St Johns Cemetery Book Katharine and Michelle, You are both now officially incredible. Thank you so much. Would it be possible to identify the name and date of the publication with my Grandfather's obit. It only says that he died yesterday. Most of the other family history you found, I already had, except that it took me months to find what you apparently did in minutes. Thanks again, Len Silva On Friday, May 18, 2012 4:46:31 PM UTC-4, Leonard Silva wrote: I am a newbie here and found this group by Googling St Johns cemetery. I understand there is a book of burial records available. I am 69 years old and started researching my roots less than a year ago. I am finding that I need accurate death dates to get anywhere and I'm hoping to get some help here. My grandfather was Manuel Correia Silva b. 16 Nov 1867 at Covas, Graciosa. He arrived in New Bedford on 22 Apr 1882 at the age of 15. Family lore says he came as a stowaway. He was a well known and successful barber in New Bedford from 1883 until his retirement around 1937. I think that everyone in the family came from Covas or Fontes, Graciosa. He married Anna or Anne Mendonca in 1886. She was also from Covas. They had four children, Mary b. 3 Jan 1887, Anna b. 12 Feb 1891, Manuel Jr. b. 15 jun 1898 and Charles b. 16 Jun 1899. Those last two dates are suspect. Mary married Edmund Burke and Anna married John Key. Anne died on 22 Dec 1909 and is buried at St. Johns. Manuel married Laurentina Mendonca on 12 Jun 1911 and they had a son Leonard Correia b. 6 Feb 1921. Others buried in what I think is a family plot might be Charles who died sometime between 1937 and 1940, Manuel Sr. who I think died in 1956, Laura or Laurentina about 1957-58. Other family names that might be there are Mendoza, Mendonca, Espindola, Medeiros. I am hoping to find actual death dates for any of these ancestors. Thanks you very much. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help!
Thank you, Shirley, I appreciate your help on this. I've been searching for the children of Joam and Isabel and also for Joam's obit which I found. I could certainly use some help with the record. I think it says he died August 13, 1797 and was 63 years old. I hope someone will confirm that for me. Also, usually there's more information in the record regarding occupation, number of children etc and I can't seem to see any of that. Could someone tell me the other information held in the record? It can be found in VELAS OBITS FOR 1790-1800, PG. #0072, jOAO DE SOUSA CARDOSO MARRIED TO ISABEL DO ROSARIO. Thank you for any help,Nancy Jean From: shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 10:10:51 -0700 Hi Nancy: I looked at the Velas film and found the following: #645 Page 100 right DOMarriage: 9 Jan 1753 Joam de Sousa Parents: (Joam Teixeira X Lusia Cardosa) natives baptised Santa Barbara WIFE: Isabel do Rosario (Joam Machado Costa X Micaella _ Rosario) natives and bapt. Velas Hope this helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: nancy jean baptiste To: azores group Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! Greetings Group, I have found my 5th ggrandparents marriage record in Velas.I'm having a very hard time translating his writing and all help would be greatly appreciated. Velas, Sao Jorge...marriages for 1734-1772 page 0102, Joam de Sousa and Isabel do Rosario Thank you in advance, Nancy Jean -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
