[AZORES-Genealogy] looking for author of old post about possible relatives' match
Hi all, I found an old posting on an Azores site from a woman named Connie. She wrote the post in 1999. Unfortunately, her e-mail is no longer active. I am hoping she is following this Google group or that someone might either know how to reach her or recognize the family she was inquirying about in '99. I believe we may have relatives in common. I have pasted her original e-mail below. Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to offer. Deb McCabe posting from 1999 (below) From: Connie j...@sunnyfl.net Subject: [AZORES-L] Chaves, Martins - New Bedford, MA Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:00:02 -0700 Hi Listers: I am posting in case these names ring a bell with anyone. I have obtained the baptismal certificate on my grandfather, John Martins. I asked the church to search their records for a marriage of Joao Martins and Maria Chaves, but no luck. Heres hoping. John Martins born 11 December 1892 in New Bedford, MA Christened at Saint John the Baptist, New Bedford, MA father: Joao Francisco Martins mother: Maria Eugenia Chaves sponsor: Manuel V. Rodrigues When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
Are there any passports, online, from 1880? If so, where can I find that link? Thanks! Pat McCoy On 8/23/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Lester, Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones from Sao Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means It could be the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you missed it. If you found his brothers then you know the council and village he came from I would search the columns for everyone that came from that village. Can you determine his arrival date in the US? If you can then I would go to the passport records and start searching back from that date it most likely is within a week of leaving the Acores. I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same day. All their names were together and they were all from the same village. The ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my Great grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must have had second thoughts about leaving. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports Questions about passports: 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? 2. I have been looking through the Registo de Passaportes for a person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport to travel to the United States? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
This link will take you to the CCA site. The only ones on line are from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. There is a gap 1884-1894 (don't know why). Horta and Angra do Heroismo are not on line yet. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat McCoy Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:40 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports Are there any passports, online, from 1880? If so, where can I find that link? Thanks! Pat McCoy On 8/23/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Lester, Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones from Sao Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means It could be the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you missed it. If you found his brothers then you know the council and village he came from I would search the columns for everyone that came from that village. Can you determine his arrival date in the US? If you can then I would go to the passport records and start searching back from that date it most likely is within a week of leaving the Acores. I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same day. All their names were together and they were all from the same village. The ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my Great grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must have had second thoughts about leaving. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports Questions about passports: 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? 2. I have been looking through the Registo de Passaportes for a person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport to travel to the United States? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
There's a gap in the records (1884-1894) because they are missing. American ones have missing gaps too :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test
Everyone should test! The more people who do, the better chances we have of breaking down those brick walls! I did the FamilyFinder test and have been busily working with new found cousins! I now have pictures of my great grandparents, and some solid leads on the parents of my great grands. HOWEVER, this is my non-Portuguese mother's family. I had my brother do a 37-marker Y-DNA test and it came back with no matches! Please, guys, test - I need Portuguese cousins to track beyond my great grands!!! Who knew that my family was rare...Test!!! Kathy Genealogists never die, they just lose their census. Visit my family history website: http://dutraporter.tribalpages.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
If you are researching the USA - in the South circa Civil War, you get tired of hearing the courthouse burned down and no records are available. One county courthouse burned down 4 times!! Some vets who try to obtain a copy of the DD214 have had to deal with the records being destroyed, if memory serves me correctly, by water damage.and so it goes. Also, I tried to get records for who was in WWI and they also were not available. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test
Who are your Portuguese great grandparents? Do you know where they are from? How did they get to America? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Kathy P To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test Everyone should test! The more people who do, the better chances we have of breaking down those brick walls! I did the FamilyFinder test and have been busily working with new found cousins! I now have pictures of my great grandparents, and some solid leads on the parents of my great grands. HOWEVER, this is my non-Portuguese mother's family. I had my brother do a 37-marker Y-DNA test and it came back with no matches! Please, guys, test - I need Portuguese cousins to track beyond my great grands!!! Who knew that my family was rare...Test!!! Kathy Genealogists never die, they just lose their census. Visit my family history website: http://dutraporter.tribalpages.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Questions about Passports
Where would passport records for someone from Flores most likely reside? Of all my Azorean ancestors, I only have a confirmed location for one of them; Antonio Rodrigues Cardim, who was from Fazenda. His wife, Maria Incarnacion Freitas (Coehlo??) is only listed as being from the Flores. According to the 1900 and 1910 censii sheets, they came to the US in 1880, 1881 or 1882. Regarding the comments about military service records being lost, there was a huge fire at the National Personel Records Center, in 1973. 75-80% or the records were lost for the Army and Air Force. http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html Later, Robert -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Questions about Passports
Robert, They could sail from any of the 3 ports (Ponta Delgada on S. Miguel, Angra on Terceira, or Horta on Faial). Horta is the closest to Flores. They are not online as of yet. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test
Especially where are they from? Many of our ancestors came from the Azores via someplace else. JoElayne Ferre' Johnson From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test Who are your Portuguese great grandparents? Do you know where they are from? How did they get to America? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Kathy P To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:07 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FamilytreeDNA test Everyone should test! The more people who do, the better chances we have of breaking down those brick walls! I did the FamilyFinder test and have been busily working with new found cousins! I now have pictures of my great grandparents, and some solid leads on the parents of my great grands. HOWEVER, this is my non-Portuguese mother's family. I had my brother do a 37-marker Y-DNA test and it came back with no matches! Please, guys, test - I need Portuguese cousins to track beyond my great grands!!! Who knew that my family was rare...Test!!! Kathy Genealogists never die, they just lose their census. Visit my family history website: http://dutraporter.tribalpages.com/-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Questions about Passports
Hello LesterI was doing research in Agua de Pau and found Jose #66.He married twice. His first wife Joaquina Amelia died 7 Dec 1918. He then married Maria do Carmo Braga in 24 mar 1919.See the link below.Hope that helpsHermano http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-B-1880-1889/SMG-LG-AGUADEPAU-B-1880-1889_item1/P172.htmlFrom: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Questions about Passports Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:25:48 -0500 Hi Lester, I just looked at the record on the CCA site Page 59 number 705 4 Jun 1904 Jose Pedro Tavares son of Jose Pedro and Helena? I can’t make the second name of mother out. Single age 22. The rest is a bit fuzzy for me to make out but it does say he is going to the US and I am not sure of the ships name. If you can make it out you may find him on the passenger list arriving. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1903-1905/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1903-1905_item1/P61.html He used Jose Pedro Tavares on the passport and when he got her he became known as Pedro Tavares. This was not his brother Jose Tavares. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Questions about Passports Hi. I am researching Pedro Tavares born 1883 in Agua de Pau, San Miguel and have been unable to find him in the passport files or ship passenger lists that are available. According to the 1930 US Census, he arrived in the US in 1904 (his wife provided that information to the census enumerator). His older brother Jose was born in AdP in 1882. He received a passport 5 June 1904, but I think he did not use it. Jose was married in AdP in November 1906, had a large family, and presumably never left. It seems to me that if Pedro was going to leave the Azores, he would have gotten a passport with his brother and likely travelled together. Thanks! On Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:07:23 PM UTC-4, Lester wrote:Questions about passports: 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? 2. I have been looking through the Registo de Passaportes for a person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport to travel to the United States? Thanks!-- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
