Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-04 Thread eric edgar
Ginny,

Arthur died on 12 Oct 1896 in Gloucester. His birth information with Manuel
P. Madruga and Phillipa Perry is consistent  with the names of the parents
of  Willie P , Gertrude, and Manuel . You didn't mention Cecilia.

According to the 1910 census Phillipa was the a widowed head of household
in 1910.  Arthur's record is important because it's the only one that
states Pico as the origin.


*Willie P. Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 26 Sep 1890 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry*
*
*
*John Perry Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 06 Dec 1892 Gloucester, Massachusetts, United States*
*parent Manuel Perry, Phillippe*
*
*
*Arthur Perry Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 11 Dec 1894 Gloucester, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry*
*
*
*Cecelia Perry Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 12 Jun 1901 Gloucester, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel P. Madruga, Felippa Cardoza*
*
*
*Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 09 Mar 1889 Gloucester, Esssex, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel Madruga, Fellipa Cardoza*
*
*
*Gertrude Perry Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 10 Aug 1896 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipa Perry*
*
*
*Manuel Madruga*
*Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915*
*birth 08 Oct 1899 Gloucester, Massachusetts*
*parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillippa P. Perry*

name:Arthur Perrytitles  terms:event:Deathevent date:12 Oct 1896event
place:Gloucester, Massachusettsresidence:Gloucester, Massachusettsstreet
address:gender:Maleage:1marital status:occupation:birth
date:birthplace:Gloucester,
Massachusettsestimated birth year:1895burial date:burial place:Gloucester,
Massachusettscemetery:father:Manuelhttps://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWQZ-XNBfather's
titles  terms:father's birthplace:Western Islandsmother:Penelope
Perryhttps://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NWQZ-XN1mother's
titles  terms:mother's birthplace:Western Islandsadditional relatives:
spouse:volume/page/certificate number:v 463 p 442film number:961518frame
number:digital folder number:4225013image number:411
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM, riverview riverv...@gis.net wrote:

 **
 Dear Eric,
 Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son
 Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I
 have corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California,
 Arthur may be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link
 you sent, just in case..
 Ginny (Madruga) Swinson

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 *From:* eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

 Ginny,

 Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel birthplace
 as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira Madruga is
 seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also concentraed in
 that area.

 Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish records
 at the NNEPS site for the area.
 http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html


 Eric Edgar



 On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

 I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at how
 so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I
 have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little
 success. My great-grandparents, *Manuel Perry Madruga* (b. about
 February 15, 1852, Azores) married *Phillipa Perry Cardoza*, (b. about
 August 25, 1865, Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18,
 1883. They had six children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26,
 1890; John Perry (my ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10,
 1896; Manuel Perry, October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have
 been unable to get baptismal records because the church says that their
 records are with the Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their
 archives and there are no records there. They arrived before Ellis Island.
 I can find no naturalization papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth and
 death records indicate only Azores. I am getting old and would like to
 visit the village where they came from and to finally connect with my
 Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in the 1918 epidemic and so any
 connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone - *HELP*. I need
 advice and direction.

 Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

2013-02-04 Thread Katharine
Primo John, You're fortunate to have had the opportunity to collect so much 
family history (my family was prone to lie and conceal with a vengeance).

Even in the 1960s -- second wave of Azorean immigration, following the 
eruption of Capelinhos volcano on Faial -- there were families where the 
husband/father came to North America first in order to obtain work and save 
up enough money to send for his wife/children; I gather that this was not 
unusual.  In fact, I personally know such a family where the husband spent 
a whole year working in the Bay Area before his wife and kids immigrated 
from the Azores.  Katharine.


On Friday, February 1, 2013 5:49:46 PM UTC-5, John Vasconcelos wrote:

 *My parents had a Pen Pal marriage. My father (Joao Vitorino 
 Vasconcelos) immigrated from Flores in 1909 and joined two older brothers 
 who were working as ranch hands on a ranch near Malta, Montana. Over the 
 next 9 years, he moved first to Portland Oregon where he worked on a dairy 
 farm which was located near the present day Portland Zoo and then a few 
 years later he moved to work as a ranch hand for a Portuguese dairy farmer 
 near Fresno California who turned out to be a distant cousin of the woman 
 who he eventually married and became my mother.

 When my father arrived at the Pimentel ranch in 1918, he met Jose Freitas, 
 who had just immigrated from Flores. The were both from the same small 
 Island of Flores, but met for the first time in rural Fresno County. They 
 became fast friends and immediately decided to marry each other's sister 
 (who were both still on Flores). My father started writing Jose's sister,  
 Ana, and in about 1928 he returned to Flores, formally courted my mother 
 and in 1929, they were married. By the time he returned to be married, he 
 had saved his money and had bought a 45 acre dairy a few miles west of 
 Fresno and had employed his new brother-in law. Jose.
 Jose wasn't so lucky, My father's sister Angelina had a mind of her own 
 and in 1920 arrived in Fresno, already married. But in the end it all 
 worked out. Jose (who never married) and his brother Francisco went into 
 partnership with my Aunt Angelina and her husband Jose in the Granada 
 Market in east Fresno.
 John Vasconcelos
 *
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Mary Bordi gene...@hununu.orgjavascript:
  wrote:

 We don't know how my great grandmother got here. I've looked and looked. 
 She did have a brother who may or may not have come with her. She was 18 
 and her passage was paid by the man who became my grandfather. We don't 
 think they had met in the Azores because they were from different areas of 
 Sao Jorge and she was only a year old when he left. 

 Two of her older sisters were already here (California) and had married 
 two brothers. I can't find their marriages or how they got here, but from 
 census information they married here and may have been sent for also. 

 Great grandmother was very seasick on the voyage and always said she came 
 around the horn. She was quite melodramatic, so it could be that it only 
 felt like it. 

 The mail order marriages seemed to work. 

 Mary






 On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Mike mgilfi...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there 
 any typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? 
 coming with husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger 
 brother? Would she have traveled over alone if another family member 
 already here?
 I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great 
 grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for 
 traveling into the USA
 Mike

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip

2013-02-04 Thread Katharine
There are two ferry lines in the Azores.  I've taken the Transmaçor 
year-round passenger ferry among Faial, Pico and São Jorge several times.  
Only one time did nearly everyone aboard except the crew have mild 
queasiness -- on the Cais do Pico - Velas, São Jorge leg (crossing the 
channel) -- although no one was heaving, just listless.  All the other 
times I've had no problem with seasickness:
http://www.transmacor.pt

The other ferry line, Açorline, that Nancy Jean mentions and runs only in 
summer, has large auto ferries, which I'm told are far more stable (even an 
Azorean friend whose tendency to seasickness precludes taking the passenger 
ferry is able to ride this one safely).  Unfortunately, their website seems 
not to be online any longer:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=entbo=doutput=searchsclient=psy-abq=A%C3%A7orlinebtnK=
Katharine.


On Friday, January 25, 2013 10:49:21 AM UTC-5, nancy jean baptiste wrote:

  We've taken the boat from Sao Miguel and Terceira several times and have 
 had no problems with sea sickness.  We enjoy watching the coastlines and 
 being among the local people. Ferry travel between islands is great fun for 
 people who aren't prone to sea sickness. It's also significantly cheaper 
 especially with inter island baggage fees for flying although I think the 
 overage charges have been discontinued since we didn't have to pay any last 
 year.

 Nancy Jean
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 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:50:58 -0700
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip
 From: mar...@jmtmlt.com javascript:
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:

 When we went to the islands back in 1999 and 2001 the boats were not 
 available in the early part of May. That may have changed. We flew from 
 Lisboa to Sao Miguel to Terceira to Sao Jorge back to Terceira to Lisboa. 

 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, janet laytham jwla...@msn.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Do not travel the Azores by boat without a good supply of seasickness 
 meds.  The boats are designed for cargo, not for people.  They rock and 
 roll excessively.  

 I took Dramamine before a 4 hour trip. I had given the rest of the pills 
 away before we were even out of the harbor!  The crew was very solicitous 
 and passed out sick bags and promptly collected the used ones which they 
 threw overboard.

 The bags were blue.  We called the trip the Blue Bag Special.



 On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Lorraine Price design...@cox.netjavascript: 
 wrote:

 ** 

 *We’re planning a trip to the Azores in May.  Does anyone know of any 
 planned trips, good deals, air fares, hotels?  I’m guessing the main 
 airport is in San Miguel.  We’ll want to travel to Graciosa (my family’s 
 birthplace) and probably Terciera, by boat? plane?.  Any other 
 suggestions?  What about a driver/tour guide?  Thanks much!*
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip

2013-02-04 Thread Katharine
Also found this ferry online.  Katharine.
http://www.atlanticoline.pt


On Friday, January 25, 2013 10:49:21 AM UTC-5, nancy jean baptiste wrote:

  We've taken the boat from Sao Miguel and Terceira several times and have 
 had no problems with sea sickness.  We enjoy watching the coastlines and 
 being among the local people. Ferry travel between islands is great fun for 
 people who aren't prone to sea sickness. It's also significantly cheaper 
 especially with inter island baggage fees for flying although I think the 
 overage charges have been discontinued since we didn't have to pay any last 
 year.

 Nancy Jean
 --
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:50:58 -0700
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores trip
 From: mar...@jmtmlt.com javascript:
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:

 When we went to the islands back in 1999 and 2001 the boats were not 
 available in the early part of May. That may have changed. We flew from 
 Lisboa to Sao Miguel to Terceira to Sao Jorge back to Terceira to Lisboa. 

 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM, janet laytham jwla...@msn.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Do not travel the Azores by boat without a good supply of seasickness 
 meds.  The boats are designed for cargo, not for people.  They rock and 
 roll excessively.  

 I took Dramamine before a 4 hour trip. I had given the rest of the pills 
 away before we were even out of the harbor!  The crew was very solicitous 
 and passed out sick bags and promptly collected the used ones which they 
 threw overboard.

 The bags were blue.  We called the trip the Blue Bag Special.



 On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Lorraine Price design...@cox.netjavascript: 
 wrote:

 ** 

 *We’re planning a trip to the Azores in May.  Does anyone know of any 
 planned trips, good deals, air fares, hotels?  I’m guessing the main 
 airport is in San Miguel.  We’ll want to travel to Graciosa (my family’s 
 birthplace) and probably Terciera, by boat? plane?.  Any other 
 suggestions?  What about a driver/tour guide?  Thanks much!*
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Women traveling from Acores

2013-02-04 Thread Katharine
Love this story.  Do you know the exact (or approximate) year?  Katharine.



On Saturday, February 2, 2013 2:09:14 PM UTC-5, Ally wrote:

  Sounds like a good romance novel ~
  
  
  In a message dated 1/31/2013 11:10:04 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
 djv...@sbcglobal.net javascript: writes:

  My grandmother traveled alone to New York and then by train to Hanford, 
 CA. She was going to her cousin (Joaquin Valine) who owned the California 
 Saloon. She was sponsored by him or maybe one of her two brothers who were 
 already here. Upon arrival in Hanford she went right to the saloon which 
 was very near the train station. She walked right in the front door. Her 
 cousin was very happy to see her, but he told her Virginia, you never come 
 in the front door of a saloon. Ladies don't do that! She didn't know. Her 
 cousin had told her he knew a nice man for her to marry and had told my 
 grandfather that he had a nice girl coming that he might like to marry. And 
 they did marry the next year. Virginia Garcia Serpa and Jose Teixeira 
 Bettencourt.  
 Dolores Vener 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo record?

2013-02-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Paul G,

Before I (or anyone) gets into this and finds out that it's possibly NOT
the right relative for you, who are you looking for and who should the
parents be?


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-04 Thread riverview
All of our family members have always referred to the family as haviung six 
children, even the six children themselves. I'll have to go and check for a 
death record. Maybe he died as an infant.
The Madruga pages on the GenWeb site are wonderful. I have looked at them 
before (many years ago) and didn't put it together because I wasn't sure of 
dates of place of birth at that time. They seem to be the right ones going all 
the way back. Pam has given me a lead on Phillipa (Felipa) Cardozo. I am really 
excited and can't begin to express my thanks to you both. When I finish my 
father's family, I'll try to work on my mother's - Silva's from Fial and 
Figurado's.
Thanks again.
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 1:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Ginny, 

  Arthur died on 12 Oct 1896 in Gloucester. His birth information with Manuel 
P. Madruga and Phillipa Perry is consistent  with the names of the parents of  
Willie P , Gertrude, and Manuel . You didn't mention Cecilia. 


  According to the 1910 census Phillipa was the a widowed head of household in 
1910.  Arthur's record is important because it's the only one that states Pico 
as the origin.




  Willie P. Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 26 Sep 1890 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry


  John Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 06 Dec 1892 Gloucester, Massachusetts, United States
  parent Manuel Perry, Phillippe


  Arthur Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 11 Dec 1894 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipe Perry


  Cecelia Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 12 Jun 1901 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Felippa Cardoza


  Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 09 Mar 1889 Gloucester, Esssex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel Madruga, Fellipa Cardoza


  Gertrude Perry Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 10 Aug 1896 Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillipa Perry


  Manuel Madruga
  Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915
  birth 08 Oct 1899 Gloucester, Massachusetts
  parent Manuel P. Madruga, Phillippa P. Perry


name: Arthur Perry 
titles  terms:  
event: Death 
event date: 12 Oct 1896 
event place: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
residence: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
street address:  
gender: Male 
age: 1 
marital status:  
occupation:  
birth date:  
birthplace: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
estimated birth year: 1895 
burial date:  
burial place: Gloucester, Massachusetts 
cemetery:  
father: Manuel 
father's titles  terms:  
father's birthplace: Western Islands 
mother: Penelope Perry 
mother's titles  terms:  
mother's birthplace: Western Islands 
additional relatives:  
spouse:  
volume/page/certificate number: v 463 p 442 
film number: 961518 
frame number:  
digital folder number: 4225013 
image number: 411 


  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:10 PM, riverview riverv...@gis.net wrote:

Dear Eric,
Thanks for taking time to look for their records. They did not have a son 
Arthur. Manuel and Phillipa had six children, all born in Gloucester. I have 
corresponded many times in the past with Jeff Madruga in California, Arthur may 
be one of his family. Thanks again. I will check out the link you sent, just in 
case..
Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
  - Original Message - 
  From: eric edgar 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Ginny,  


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the parish 
records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am amazed at 
how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came from. I 
have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little success. 
My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 1852, 
Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, Azores) in 
St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six children: Mary, 
March 9, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo record?

2013-02-04 Thread Shirley Allegre
This is what it looks like to me:

Margarida, daughter legitimate of Antonio de Medeiros, native of Mae de Deos 
t(name of church) the village of Povoacao, and Luisa de Medeiros native of 
Devine Espirito Santo the place of Maia.  Paternal of Jose de Medeiros  
Thomasia Rosa, and maternal of Joao de Medeiros  Maria de Couto,
Born 1st of January in 1852.  For Baptizing 13th of the same month  year in 
Mae de Deos.
For godparent:  Manoel P. Medeiros with wife Vicencia Carolina.  TESTIMONY 
Francisco _
 Manoel da Silva, all this same church.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo record?


  I believe the attached is a baptismo record a great grandparent on my 
grandmother's side. Can someone please translate it for me?

  Thanks,
  Paul G.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores

2013-02-04 Thread Shirley Allegre
I have attached a copy of a list of Portuguese words that has helped me to read 
the Portuguese documents.
Hope it helps.

Shirley in CA
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  From: riverview 
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  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


  Pam,
  I looked at that page for a long time. I didn't see Felipa. Perhaps I'm not 
looking at the right page. I don't speak Portugese and am having a difficult 
time deciphering the information on the page. Please advise.
  Ginny (Madruga) Swinson
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Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching Madruga, Cardoza - Azores


Here is a Felipa in 1862 



http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1860-1867_item1/P63.html


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

  I don't think if that baptism is correct, since she would of been 52 when 
she had Manuel in 1899 



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

oops you did give children sorry about that 



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  I think if you give us their children it might be more helpful. 



  On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com 
wrote:

According to the 1900 census if this is the right person Felipa 
would have been been born abt 1847. Below is a baptism in Picos 



http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1845-1860_item1/P10.html
 







On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Ginny,  


  Here is the birth record for their son, Arthur. Iy shows Manuel 
birthplace as Pico. From my family research in Pico, I know that Pereira 
Madruga is seen often in the Lajes das Pico Concelho, Cardoso is also 
concentraed in that area. 


  Since you have a birthdate, you should take look throug the 
parish records at the NNEPS site for the area. 
  http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html




  Eric Edgar





  On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ginny Swinson riverv...@gis.net 
wrote:

I have been following your group for several months and am 
amazed at how so many of you have been able to locate where you ancestors came 
from. I have been researching intermittently for 50 years and have had little 
success. My great-grandparents, Manuel Perry Madruga (b. about February 15, 
1852, Azores) married Phillipa Perry Cardoza, (b. about August 25, 1865, 
Azores) in St Ann's church, Gloucester, MA, April 18, 1883. They had six 
children: Mary, March 9, 1889; Willie P.,September 26, 1890; John Perry (my 
ggrandfather) December 6, 1892; Gertrude, August 10, 1896; Manuel Perry, 
October 8, 1899. All were born in Gloucester. I have been unable to get 
baptismal records because the church says that their records are with the 
Boston Archdiocese. I spent eight hours at their archives and there are no 
records there. They arrived before Ellis Island. I can find no naturalization 
papers for them  in Gloucester. All birth and death records indicate only 
Azores. I am getting old and would like to visit the village where they came 
from and to finally connect with my Portugese heritage. My grandfather died in 
the 1918 epidemic and so any connection to the past wast lost. PLEASE - anyone 
- HELP. I need advice and direction.

Virginia (Ginny) Madruga Swinson

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Savage in Concord, California

2013-02-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Mike Savage:

I understand my grandparents, Hugh  Agnes
Savage are buried at St Stephens in Concord. Is there a
map to locate them?

Mike Savage

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Savage in Concord, California

2013-02-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Mike S,

Try Find A Grave: http://goo.gl/c2sAH
There's a map at the bottom of the page.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores trip

2013-02-04 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Lorraine,
I agree with you, travelling from the US to the Azores by boat is not worth
it and probably more expensive than flying. In fact, I think that probably
the only way to get to the Azores from the US by boat is on a cruise ship.
Inter-island travel by boat, as my cousin Katherine points out, is an
entirely different matter, especially in the central group. The Espressos
(which I think are hydrofoils) are a really fun way to to get around the
central group. In 2003, we took one from Angra, (leaving in mid-morning) to
Madelena Pico with two stops in Sao Jorge (we had lunch at one), and one in
Caes do Pico before arriving in Madelena, Pico in time for dinner.
We spent a couple of days on Pico and Faial (taking the local ferry), Then
we took the auto ferry from Horta with 2 stops in Sao Jorge and a stop in
Gracioso (for lunch) before landing at Praia on Terceira. It was a long day
but very interesting. There were some boy scouts (Scoteiros) returning from
a camping trip on Pico.

On our last trip to the Azores, we had flown to Faial on our way back from
Flores. After our stay there, we took the local ferry to Pico where we
spent a couple of days. When we got ready to leave, we caught the 
Espresso  from Caes do Pico, made a stop for lunch on Sao Jorge, then back
to Angra. We spent another two or 3 days there before flying back to Boston.

Another thing we do is stay in Residencials (even on the continent) ,
rather than 5 star hotels. Those usually run from 25 to 50 euros a night. I
think the record bargain was 20 euros a night (including continentel
breakfast) for a simple but clean residencial in Coimbra,

Regards,
John Vasconcelos  .*

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Isabella Baltar
myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote:

 Lorraine,

 I'm leaving to Portugal and Azores in two weeks. I will stay in Terceira
 for one month; João Ventura is helping me with my stay and car. I want to
 drive so I will feel free to visit whatever I want, and stay at those
 places as much as I can to do my research, take photos and write a journal.
 As Celeste Perry has said previously, João Ventura is very reliable.

 I think travelling to Azores by boat is not worth, its too far way, almost
 1000 miles/1500 km from the mainland. Sata is the best from US (west or
 east coast -  I'm on east coast). Unless you want to experience how people
 were used to go back and fourth from there. I have atravel agent in
 Terceira who planned all my flights. She manages to find the best dates and
 deals. If you want her contact I can give to you. I use skype to talk to
 her.

 Last, but not the least, there is a website where you can search for local
 places to stay; they are private homes or rooms for rent all over the
 world, and as well as in Azores. Lots of reviews from each place.

 airbnb.com

 If you want any additional information while I'm there or when I come
 back, feel free to contact me.

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com


 On Thursday, January 24, 2013 9:38:38 AM UTC-5, Lorraine wrote:

  *We’re planning a trip to the Azores in May.  Does anyone know of any
 planned trips, good deals, air fares, hotels?  I’m guessing the main
 airport is in San Miguel.  We’ll want to travel to Graciosa (my family’s
 birthplace) and probably Terciera, by boat? plane?.  Any other
 suggestions?  What about a driver/tour guide?  Thanks much!*

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Savage in Concord, California

2013-02-04 Thread Pam Santos
You can contact the cemetery also.

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike S,

 Try Find A Grave: http://goo.gl/c2sAH
 There's a map at the bottom of the page.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Savage in Concord, California

2013-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Migliori
If I can help in any way.  This is where I live.
Liz

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Repost for Mike Savage:

 I understand my grandparents, Hugh  Agnes
 Savage are buried at St Stephens in Concord. Is there a
 map to locate them?

 Mike Savage

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