Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting
There is this one priest who writes beautiful and I can read anything he writes. I always say to myself if only they were all in his writing lol On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Sam Koester wrote: > Cheri; They write like I do! [image: *8-} silly] > > -- > *From:* Cheri Mello > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Sent:* Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:59 PM > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting > > Many times we lament at how hard it is to read the Portuguese > handwriting. It's not that it's in Portuguese. It's the script of the > time period. > >-- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting
Cheri; They write like I do! > > From: Cheri Mello >To: Azores Genealogy >Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:59 PM >Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting > > > >Many times we lament at how hard it is to read the Portuguese handwriting. >It's not that it's in Portuguese. It's the script of the time period. > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting
Interesting article on signatures. Is that one Grover Ross? At that time there were two ways to write "s" and one looked like f but with the line only going on the left side, and not through to the right. I think that's what Washington did when he wrote his surname. - Shirl - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 8:59 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting Many times we lament at how hard it is to read the Portuguese handwriting. It's not that it's in Portuguese. It's the script of the time period. I was watching TV today, and something came up on George Washington. I did a quick Internet search to find out more. Then I tripped across his signature. (Click on the ones that say Real): http://goo.gl/O9u14H George is abbreviated and that other stuff says Washington?? Wow! And English is my native language! Thomas Jefferson's is a bit better, but I swear I'm reading "t"s in there: http://goo.gl/1xAfA1 Look at the signers of the Declaration of Independence. Scroll down to the bottom: http://goo.gl/FVKWTd Look at column 2, 5th line down. Jas. Smith and who? I know who. But if I didn't study any abbreviations or any paleography and English was not my native language, I'd be naming the guy Gro Rofs. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Paleography and Handwriting
Many times we lament at how hard it is to read the Portuguese handwriting. It's not that it's in Portuguese. It's the script of the time period. I was watching TV today, and something came up on George Washington. I did a quick Internet search to find out more. Then I tripped across his signature. (Click on the ones that say Real): http://goo.gl/O9u14H George is abbreviated and that other stuff says Washington?? Wow! And English is my native language! Thomas Jefferson's is a bit better, but I swear I'm reading "t"s in there: http://goo.gl/1xAfA1 Look at the signers of the Declaration of Independence. Scroll down to the bottom: http://goo.gl/FVKWTd Look at column 2, 5th line down. Jas. Smith and who? I know who. But if I didn't study any abbreviations or any paleography and English was not my native language, I'd be naming the guy Gro Rofs. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara cemetery in Povoacao
Which da Ponte are you looking for in Povoacao? I have a da Ponte from Ponta Garca. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Ricardo Chaves To: Azores Geneolagy Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara cemetery in Povoacao Hi Cheri, thank you for the clarification! So if you don't mind I will use this thread to try it. These Images are just to complete my answer to Joe. I happened to have a picture of the cemetery when was there in 2007. I am also researching Povoacao for "da Ponte" Cheers to all On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Ricardo C, Yes, *usually* you can do attachments. I say "usually" because if they are too big, they get flagged as spam, or truncated (where I can't view them either). But most attachments go through. Now to figure out why the spam filter is flagging so many list members as spammers! I don't understand what the programmers do to the group sometimes! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Ricardo Chaves -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Putting our research on Ancestry
Are you sure that there is not something in the "date of death" field for your family member? On Saturday, December 21, 2013 5:14:36 PM UTC-5, E Sharp wrote: > > Marcia, > > Re No. 2 you noted - I have a family member who is living and is listed > on an Ancestry Public tree by name...not "Living" as it should be. I am a > long time Ancestry user and I am going to contact Ancestry about this. I am > not sure what happened or how it came to be this living person shows up by > name but I hope to find out. > > "E" > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Rosemary Palermo > > > wrote: > >> Hello Everyone: >> I am the researcher that Marcia was referring to who has been asked by >> the Mendocino Kelly House Organization to update a book by Eleanor Sverko >> called Early Portuguese Familoies in Mendocino. >> >> She assured me that I would be welcome to join your group and I do hope >> you all are OK with that? I did want to address some of the issues that >> were raised in the prior threads and to offer assurances to everyone. >> >> I have, as Marcia requested, *changed all the Ancestry trees to >> Private*until everyone is comfortable with this. >> >> My email is rpal...@gmail.com and I am happy to respond to >> anyone who would prefer to speak to me in private as well as to this forum. >> >> I would like to address some of the concerns that have been raised as I >> believe they may be based on things that have changed at Ancestry. >> >> 1 - I am not in any way affiliated with Ancestry. I am a private >> researcher who happens to be interested in Mendocino and offered to help >> with this project. Since I am retired, I have the time to do this and felt >> it would benefit other researchers since there appears to be little Azorean >> ancestry information published. Ancestry seems to offer a wide visibility >> to those doing serious research. >> >> 2 - Public Trees on Ancestry do *NOT* display the living so no >> information about the living is shown. The Living are automatically shown >> with the notation 'Living' and no information is visible. The person making >> the tree can see the living with dates etc but no one else can unless the >> owner specifically approves so for that invitee only. People are provided >> with the option to contact the tree owner to inquire or provide information >> or corrections. >> >> 3 - The information I have put on the Ancestry Trees so far* is all >> public information* I obtained through research of public records >> available online such as census, newspaper articles, GENWEB information >> etc. So it is already publicly available to anyone who wants to do the >> research. That is why I didn't feel the trees needed to be private. >> >> 4 - Public Trees can be seen by any Ancestry member or by people invited >> to view the trees - but *CANNOT BE EDITED* unless permission is given by >> the tree owner so there is no danger of my tree getting corrupted. Of >> course people can reuse that info in their own trees and provide incorrect >> info but the original tress cannot be corrupted. >> >> When I invite people to view the tree, they can be invited as Guests, >> Contributer, or Editor. I would invite people only as Guests. I want to be >> sure that any information entered is correct before it is posted and would >> be happy to receive information from anyone where it is properly attributed. >> per Ancestry: >> >>- *Editor: Allows viewing rights, and can add comments, photos and >>stories. Also can edit your tree such as removing and editing existing >>content.* >>- *Contributor: Allows viewing rights, and can add comments, photos >>and stories. They cannot remove or edit existing tree content.* >>- *Guest: Allows viewing rights and adding comments.* >> >> >> 5 - Anyone invited by the tree owner can view the trees for free *without >> a paid subscription* to Ancestry. >> per Ancestry: *If they do not have an account, the link will take them >> directly to the sign up page, where they can quickly obtain a free >> registered guest account. To view your tree they are required to have an >> Ancestry account so that a link to your tree can be placed into their >> account. Creating a username on Ancestry is free and they will not need to >> purchase a subscription. Once they accept your invitation, your tree will >> appear in the Family Trees section of their account as well as under the >> Trees Shared with Me tab under the Family Trees section. * >> >> 6 - I have not and will not post any photos unless they are already >> online and provided for public use and all information is attributed (ie >> the location from which it was obtained, date, person donating etc). >> >> 7 - If someone wants to provide information that they would prefer NOT to >> have shown on the Public Tree, there are 'Private Notes' for each tree that >> I can put that information in for my use but it will not be visible to >> anyone el
[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA, Azores, Family
Hi! Does anyone have anything about these? Someone gave me the data. Yet I think some of the names and dates are not vey accurate! 1. Manuel de Sousa Colaço (José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Dec. 11, 1799 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died Before 1868. He married 1st Mariana Rosa on Jan. 20, 1845 in S. Mateus, Praia, Graciosa. Mariana Rosa, daughter of Francisco Nunes Vieira (Manuel1) and Ana Maria de Jesus (Bartolomeu1), was born on Sep. 8, 1822 in S. Mateus, Praia, Graciosa and died on Nov. 5, 1866 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores. He married 2nd Maria de Sousa da Silva on Jul. 14, 1825 in S. Mateus, Praia, Graciosa, PT. He married 3rd Maria Rosa da Silva on Aug. 1, 1839 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores. Children of Manuel de Sousa Colaço and Mariana Rosa i. 2. Ana Colaço was born on Nov. 11, 1845 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. ii. 3. Francisco de Sousa Colaço was born on Aug. 3, 1848 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died Before 1872. iii.4. José de Sousa da Silva Colaço was born on Dec. 8, 1851 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. iv.5. Sousa Colaço was born on Jan. 1, 1855 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. v. 6. Colaço was born on Sep. 5, 1856 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. vi.7. António de Sousa Colaço was born on Jan. 3, 1861 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died Before 1900 in no mar. vii. 8. Joseph was born in Graciosa, Açores, PT and died on Apr. 1, 1914 in Lowel, Middlesex, MA, EUA. 2nd Generation (Children) 2. Ana Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Nov. 11, 1845 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. 3. Francisco de Sousa Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Aug. 3, 1848 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died Before 1872. He married Thomasina Isabel da Glória on Apr. 29, 1871 in Praia, Graciosa, Açores, PT. Thomasina Isabel da Glória was born Before 1851 and died After 1872. 4. José de Sousa da Silva Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Dec. 8, 1851 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. He married Silva Before 1883 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores. Maria Custódia da was born About 1865 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. 5. Sousa Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Jan. 1, 1855 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. 6. Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Sep. 5, 1856 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died on an unknown date. 7. António de Sousa Colaço (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born on Jan. 3, 1861 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores and died Before 1900 in no mar. He married Adelina Margarida on Jun. 9, 1879 in Luz, Santa Cruz da Graciosa, Graciosa, Açores. 8. Joseph (Manuel de5, José de4, Manuel3, Manuel2, António1) was born in Graciosa, Açores, PT and died on Apr. 1, 1914 in Lowel, Middlesex, MA, EUA. He married Joseph Silva in 1895. Mary Wo was born in 1870 in Açores, PT and died After 1922. Notes Notes on Manuel de Sousa Colaço Emigraram para os EUA. Notes on António de Sousa Colaço Morreu num navio perto dos Açores na volta dos EUA Notes on Joseph Nasceu depois da morte da mãe?! Aparece como nascido em 1868 Aparece referido como José de Sousa da Silva. Deve ser Colaço... Thank you and a Merry Christmas!!! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
