Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name in Sao Sebastiao Record 1702

[MaryAnn Santos]

I agree with Rick. Margaret, your skill and knowledge is more than
impressive and absolutely invaluable!

MaryAnn


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *Thanks Margaret I really appreciate your knowledge and expertise in the
> evolution of the paleography in these records.*
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> *Rick*
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> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente
> *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2014 10:39 PM
> *To:* azores
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> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name in Sao Sebastiao Record 1702
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> Pam has it.
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> Written as  *dal meida*.  It is written in its original root form
> "Arabic" evolving into what it is today, de Almeida.
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> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Pam Santos 
> wrote:
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> de Almeida?
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> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> *Hi All,  *
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> *I am having trouble identifying the name of the groom in this record
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1677-1708/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1677-1708_item1/P148.htmlb
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> Top Left Record. *
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> *On the fourth line down I see Andre de ??? *
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> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores

[Margaret Vicente]

Glad to be of some assistance, Bob.

Stay well,

Margaret


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:43 AM, rml...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Margaret,
>
> Thanks for the additional information
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:30:31 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
>> Adding to Sam's (somewhere in Indiana) :)
>>
>> Fazenda is a civil parish in the municipality of Lajes island of Flores.
>>
>> *Geralda (Giralda) de Jesus Coelho, without profression, (staying at
>> home)native of this same Parish of which she is parishioner. *
>>
>> *Grandfather is Antonio Coelho Bacta.  Godfather Antonio Pimentel Bacta
>> Rodrigues.*
>>
>> *Side margin:*
>> *Not sealed with the required seal because the mother of the baptized is
>> poor and the acts herewith enter are gratuit.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:19 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  On the 20th day of the month of July of the year 1895 in the church,
>>> etc., etc. solemnly baptized an individual of the masculine sex whom I gave
>>> the name of Antonio and born in this freguesia at 10 hours of the
>>> *night?* of the current day of the month of July of the current year of
>>> 1895. Natural son of unknown father and Giralda de Jesus Coelha, *bem
>>> profissao?* native of this same freguesia *de que e parochial__?*
>>> resident of the place of Fasenda (the farm).  Paternal grandson of unknown
>>> grandparents and maternal of Antonio Coelho Baita or Baeta and of Maria de
>>> Jesus Coelha.  For godfather Antonio Pimental Baeta Rodrigues, married,
>>> farmer and godmother Filomena de Trindade, married.  Then the usual ending
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> The side margin has the word “poor” in it so I suspect it says something
>>> about them being to poor to pay but; I don’t really know.
>>>
>>> Hope someone can fill in the parts I missed and hope this helps.  Sam
>>> (somewhere in Indiana)
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Windows Mail
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>>> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎15‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎33‎ ‎PM
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/WKkBAi
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores

[Bob Luis]

Thank you Sam.(somewhere in Indiana)


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 4:19 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
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>  On the 20th day of the month of July of the year 1895 in the church,
> etc., etc. solemnly baptized an individual of the masculine sex whom I gave
> the name of Antonio and born in this freguesia at 10 hours of the *night?*
> of the current day of the month of July of the current year of
> 1895. Natural son of unknown father and Giralda de Jesus Coelha, *bem
> profissao?* native of this same freguesia *de que e parochial__?*
> resident of the place of Fasenda (the farm).  Paternal grandson of unknown
> grandparents and maternal of Antonio Coelho Baita or Baeta and of Maria de
> Jesus Coelha.  For godfather Antonio Pimental Baeta Rodrigues, married,
> farmer and godmother Filomena de Trindade, married.  Then the usual ending
> stuff.
>
> The side margin has the word “poor” in it so I suspect it says something
> about them being to poor to pay but; I don’t really know.
>
> Hope someone can fill in the parts I missed and hope this helps.  Sam
> (somewhere in Indiana)
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
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> *From:* rml...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎15‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎33‎ ‎PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
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> Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page.
>
> http://goo.gl/WKkBAi
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> thanks,
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> Bob
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Re: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Re:_Porciúncula

[Kalani N]

hahaha.  I mentioned this to my Mexican co-worker after I responded here.  
And when I revealed the entire name (I'm surprised that this time I 
remembered from memory) I explained that I worked in a building that listed 
the ENTIRE name.  The whole thing was written in Spanish & in English.  Not 
sure if that was something used in a proclamation or not.

But my co-worker revealed that she does remember the old movies that 
referred to LA as "El Pueblo."  That was when it was part of Mexico, and of 
course before that part of Spain.

Kalani

On Friday, August 15, 2014 1:03:37 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:
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> Very interesting.
>
> So THAT'S what Kalani was talking about. I was stumped.
>
> As for being rare or common, I suppose it always depends on where you 
> look. It reminds me of when someone never heard the name Agueda and I was 
> thinking, wow, that's so common where I search, how can it be unheard of 
> anywhere else? 
>
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>   Original Message 
> Subject: Re:_[AZORES-Genealogy]_Re:_Porciúncula
> From: "luiznoia ." >
> Date: Fri, August 15, 2014 11:45 am
> To: Azores Genealogy >
>
> The full name of city when founded :
>
> "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de 
> Porciúncula" or "The Town of Our Lady the Queen of Angels of the 
> Porciúncula River"
>
> The origin of the name Porciuncula: Porziuncola, also called Portiuncula 
> (in Latin) or Porzioncula, is a small church located within the Basilica of 
> Santa Maria degli Angeli in the frazione of Santa Maria degli Angeli, 
> situated about 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) from Assisi, Umbria (central Italy)
>
>  It is the place from where the Franciscan movement started
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Kalani N 
> > wrote:
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>> Only time I've seen Porciuncula was in the name of the LA River. ;)
>>
>> Kalani 
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation of Baptism for Antonio Baeta - Santa Cruz, Flores

[Ângela Loura]

Baeta
[ba-êta] or [ba-iêta], depending on the local accent.
Em 16/08/2014 05:43, "rml...@gmail.com"  escreveu:

> Margaret,
>
> Thanks for the additional information
>
> Bob
>
> On Friday, August 15, 2014 7:30:31 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
>> Adding to Sam's (somewhere in Indiana) :)
>>
>> Fazenda is a civil parish in the municipality of Lajes island of Flores.
>>
>> *Geralda (Giralda) de Jesus Coelho, without profression, (staying at
>> home)native of this same Parish of which she is parishioner. *
>>
>> *Grandfather is Antonio Coelho Bacta.  Godfather Antonio Pimentel Bacta
>> Rodrigues.*
>>
>> *Side margin:*
>> *Not sealed with the required seal because the mother of the baptized is
>> poor and the acts herewith enter are gratuit.*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:19 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  On the 20th day of the month of July of the year 1895 in the church,
>>> etc., etc. solemnly baptized an individual of the masculine sex whom I gave
>>> the name of Antonio and born in this freguesia at 10 hours of the
>>> *night?* of the current day of the month of July of the current year of
>>> 1895. Natural son of unknown father and Giralda de Jesus Coelha, *bem
>>> profissao?* native of this same freguesia *de que e parochial__?*
>>> resident of the place of Fasenda (the farm).  Paternal grandson of unknown
>>> grandparents and maternal of Antonio Coelho Baita or Baeta and of Maria de
>>> Jesus Coelha.  For godfather Antonio Pimental Baeta Rodrigues, married,
>>> farmer and godmother Filomena de Trindade, married.  Then the usual ending
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> The side margin has the word “poor” in it so I suspect it says something
>>> about them being to poor to pay but; I don’t really know.
>>>
>>> Hope someone can fill in the parts I missed and hope this helps.  Sam
>>> (somewhere in Indiana)
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>>
>>> *From:* rml...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎15‎, ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎33‎ ‎PM
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> Translation help with Antonio #36 top left of page.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/WKkBAi
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: USCIS genealogy program

[Lester]

It cost $20 for the index search and $20 for a copy of the 3 documents in 
the file, a couple of postage stamps and a little time.  I got a copy of my 
grandfather's Certificate of Naturalization and I found out that he arrived 
in Boston, Massachusetts on 15 June 1904 aboard the SS Canopic.  Was it 
worth it? YES!

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:05:07 PM UTC-4, ucla wrote:
>
> I recently came across a certificate of citizenship, issued 22 July 
> 1937. I would like to get a copy of the petition for citizenship. Is 
> this the same as declaration of  intent of citizenship? 
> I am assuming the petition will have alot of useful genealogy data. I 
> have a copy of instructions for form g-1041 and g-1041-a. I believe the 
> uscis file number will be the certificate of citizenship record number. 
> Do I need to do the index search first? 
>
> Thank you 
> Joaquin Mendonca 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: USCIS genealogy program

[Cheri Mello]

If memory serves me correctly, I had my immigrants' marriage date on a
creased piece of paper.  The 2nd papers for naturalization said the place
of marriage was "New Bedford, Connecticut."  No freguesia.  So I got up one
morning and started calling all the Catholic churches in New Bedford,
Massachusetts.  First church wasn't around in 1905.  The 2nd church I
called was St. John the Baptist.  I gave the priest the marriage date and
yes, they were married there.  And not only that, the church had the
freguesia.  That was my 25th document on these people and even though I
have more paperwork on them since then, it remains the only document to
date that I have found that has the actual freguesia.

Yes, it was worth it.  A relative had told me my immigrants got married in
Rhode Island. That search was fruitless, even with the date.  Even though
my ancestor got her states confused, I knew the city was right.

By-the-way, on the 2nd papers she said she had sailed on the "Pensailor" to
America.  On the last page it was stamped by the U.S. Government that they
searched the 1901 manifest for the Peninsular and were unable to find her.
But they granted her citizenship anyways (she was in her 70s by then).  And
she was on the manifest.  It's just that her older sister was doing the
talking and give the family alcunha and not the surname.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Baptism 1689

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Hi

 

I found this baptism and recognize that the format is not the same as
others. Maria is baptized on 25 Sep 1689 The names of what I believe is the
parents is at the bottom (Maria Correia wife of Andre Teixeira) But what I
cannot find it the word Filha in the record. Was Maria a foundling and give
to the care of Maria Correia?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1
686-1703/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1686-1703_item1/P107.html  middle record
(Maria)

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Baptism 1689

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi,

She was found abandoned in a field by Simao da Costa who because she seemed
very week baptized by her.  The Priest re-did it and she was given out to
be raised by Maria Correia etc.

Margaret Vicente


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> *Hi*
>
>
>
> * I found this baptism and recognize that the format is not the same as
> others. Maria is baptized on 25 Sep 1689 The names of what I believe is the
> parents is at the bottom (Maria Correia wife of Andre Teixeira) But what I
> cannot find it the word Filha in the record. Was Maria a foundling and give
> to the care of Maria Correia?*
>
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1686-1703/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1686-1703_item1/P107.html
> 
> middle record (Maria)*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Record 1671

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

This record is a baptism on 30 Nov 1671. The parents are Andre Teixeira and
Maria  dos  and at a quick glance looks like Costa but could this be an
earlier way of writing Correia?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1
663-1685/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1663-1685_item1/P77.html Right side 5th
Record - Andre

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Baptism 1689

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Thank again Margaret.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Vicente
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:20 PM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Baptism 1689

 

Hi, 

 

She was found abandoned in a field by Simao da Costa who because she seemed 
very week baptized by her.  The Priest re-did it and she was given out to be 
raised by Maria Correia etc.

 

Margaret Vicente

 

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Hi

 

I found this baptism and recognize that the format is not the same as others. 
Maria is baptized on 25 Sep 1689 The names of what I believe is the parents is 
at the bottom (Maria Correia wife of Andre Teixeira) But what I cannot find it 
the word Filha in the record. Was Maria a foundling and give to the care of 
Maria Correia?

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1686-1703/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1686-1703_item1/P107.html
  middle record (Maria)

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Sebastiao Record 1671

[Pam Santos]

Looks like Costa to me


On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *This record is a baptism on 30 Nov 1671. The parents are Andre Teixeira
> and Maria  dos  and at a quick glance looks like Costa but could this be an
> earlier way of writing Correia?*
>
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1663-1685/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1663-1685_item1/P77.html
> 
> Right side 5th Record - Andre*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Sebastiao Record 1671

[JR]

It is Maria das Cortes sua mulher, foi padrinho, Jaques Pereira

On Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:53:50 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *This record is a baptism on 30 Nov 1671. The parents are Andre Teixeira 
> and Maria  dos  and at a quick glance looks like Costa but could this be an 
> earlier way of writing Correia?*
>
>  
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1663-1685/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1663-1685_item1/P77.html
>  
> 
>  
> Right side 5th Record - Andre*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
>  
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Porciúncula

[Kalani N]

On Friday, August 15, 2014 12:43:23 PM UTC-7, E. Sharp wrote:
>
> I looked up this name on Ancestry and there are many, many listed 
> especially in Brazil so it is not so uncommon as it seems. 
> "E"
>
>
Did you mean back in the 1800s?  Or today?  I know that in Brazil, names 
with -on is very, very common.  I wouldn't say it is the same with 
Porciuncula. lol 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptismo records for GGG grandfather Bernardino de Andrade and sibs

[Paul]

Attached is a cleaner(?)/better baptismo record for my great grandfather. 
Maybe someone can see who his godparents were. I see the name Manuel but 
that could be some witness or the priest.
 
Paul G.
On Friday, August 15, 2014 11:20:00 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

> Your very welcome
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Paul > 
> wrote:
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>> Thank Pam. Slowly I am getting this Portuguese stuff down.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Sebastiao Record 1671

[pico]

I've never seen Jaques as a first name in Portugal, just something similar in France.Interesting.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico & Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com=


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Sebastiao Record 1671
From: JR 
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It is Maria das Cortes sua mulher, foi padrinho, Jaques Pereira 




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