Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unusual name: Fragano or prajano

[Cheri Mello]

Prajano?  I googled it.  I got a place in Italy.  Is there a Saint
Prajano?  Is there a meaning to this name, or is it just a name.

Maria Elena, I guess I'd be thrilled too!  Not your usual group of expected
names!


Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Unusual name: Fragano or prajano

[Dano]

Maria Elena, the child's given name is Prajano, The father's name is 
Mathias Jose da Silveira from the parish of Nossa Senhora da Piedade, ilha 
do Pico); the mother's name is Maria Adelaide da Silva Lima of the parish 
of Apostolo Sao Pedro, Ponta Delgada, resident on Rua da Calheta. I 
wouldn't lend weight to the names on the other documents unless there is 
evidence that your ancestor actually used the names mentioned therein.

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:55:08 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote:
>
> Lower left hand 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1885-1887/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1885-1887_item1/P162.html
>  
>
> The name is written clearly and yet I can't tell what it is.  Is it 
> Prajano??   Ship's manifest had him as Fragano and later in the  1900 
> census it's translated as him Terrajean.  I finally found his baptismal 
> record today and still guessing. 
>
> I'm so excited to find it yet I can't believe it's Prajano (?) 
>
> LOL 
>
> THANKS SO MUCH 
>
>
>
> Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual name: Fragano or prajano

[Maria Lima]

Lower left hand

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1885-1887/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1885-1887_item1/P162.html

The name is written clearly and yet I can't tell what it is.  Is it Prajano??   
Ship's manifest had him as Fragano and later in the  1900 census it's 
translated as him Terrajean.  I finally found his baptismal record today and 
still guessing. 

I'm so excited to find it yet I can't believe it's Prajano (?)

LOL

THANKS SO MUCH



Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another passport question

[Kathy Cardoza]

Thanks, Cheri!
Kathy

Cheri Mello wrote:
It seems to me that there was a time period where it was 1 passaporte 
per familly.  Later on, it seems to me that it became 1 passaporte per 
person.  But I haven't researched all time periods on all islands 
either.  Just my observations.


Cheri

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Kathy Cardoza > wrote:


Thank you, Shirl! That would explain why I'm not finding anything
for the women.  :)

Kathy



Shirl Sereque wrote:

Kathy-
   When my ancestor came to the USA, his wife and daughters were
on his passport.
- Shirl -


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:58 PM, Kathy Cardoza
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In 1865, I found a 3G Uncle getting a passport in Horta. It was
noted that he was traveling with his wife and his sister, who was
single and would become my 2GG. So far, I haven't found a
passport for either of the women. My question is, do ALL
travelers need to get a passport when they are traveling together
from this time and place? Or does the one suffice?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[Maria Lima]

Thank you for all your help!  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:38 PM, manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:18:28 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote: > Bottom left 
> hand entry: > > 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>  > > > For Mathias Jose Silveira, does it say he was 25( ?). ( His bride is 
> 31). What is"Caixeiro" as an occupation. Google says shop keeper or bar 
> tender or delivery man. Maybe it means something different back then. > > 
> Also this is my first ancestor in Pico. Does it say the church is in Vila dos 
> Lages? > There are 4 years of Baptisms missing from 1856-1860. > > Thank you. 
> > >  > > 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>  > > Maria Elena Yes he is 25 and she 31 She is a widower Caixeiro would be a 
> cashier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Caixeiro

[manueljoseljose]

*cai·xei·ro* *cai·xei·ro* 
(*caixa + -eiro*)
*substantivo masculino*

1. Empregado de balcão. = BALCONISTA

2. Empregado de comércio.

3. Empregado que tem a caixa a seu cargo. = CAIXA

*"caixeiro"*, in Dicionário Priberam da Língua Portuguesa [em linha], 
2008-2013, *http://www.priberam.pt/dlpo/caixeiro* 
 [consultado em 30-01-2015].

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[luiznoia .]

Caixeiro is a peddler.

It's on one of the word lists someone posted in the past


Eric Edgar

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> Yes, aged 25 and you have Villa dos Lajes correct.  The occupation I have
> no clue about.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with groom's birth year and occupation

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On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:18:28 PM UTC-5, Maria wrote: > Bottom 
left hand entry: > > 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
 
> > > For Mathias Jose Silveira, does it say he was 25( ?). ( His bride is 
31). What is"Caixeiro" as an occupation. Google says shop keeper or bar 
tender or delivery man. Maybe it means something different back then. > > 
Also this is my first ancestor in Pico. Does it say the church is in Vila 
dos Lages? > There are 4 years of Baptisms missing from 1856-1860. > > 
Thank you. > > > > 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
 
> > Maria Elena Yes he is 25 and she 31 She is a widower Caixeiro would be 
a cashier 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

There was an ocupation list at the beginning of the CCA when it first
started. I think that someone added it? Don't know but I copied it and it
says cai(s)eiro is a Master of workers, whatever that means!

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On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, A Faria  wrote:

> He is from the freguesia(parish) of Nossa Senhora da Piedade(Piedade for
> short) concelho Vila das Lajes(county of the Village of Lajes). The church
> would by Nossa Senhora da Piedade, it isn't in the Vila of Lajes but it is
> in the concelho(county of the Vila of Lajes, there is a distinction).
>
> For the occupation of caixeiro(I believe he was a clerk)
>
>
> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 4:18:28 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Bottom left hand entry:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>>
>>
>> For Mathias Jose Silveira, does it say he was 25( ?). ( His bride is 31).
>>   What  is"Caixeiro" as an occupation.  Google says shop keeper or bar
>> tender or delivery man.  Maybe it means something different back then.
>>
>>   Also this is my first ancestor in Pico.  Does it say the church is in
>> Vila dos Lages?
>> There are 4 years of Baptisms missing from 1856-1860.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>>
>> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[A Faria]

He is from the freguesia(parish) of Nossa Senhora da Piedade(Piedade for 
short) concelho Vila das Lajes(county of the Village of Lajes). The church 
would by Nossa Senhora da Piedade, it isn't in the Vila of Lajes but it is 
in the concelho(county of the Vila of Lajes, there is a distinction).

For the occupation of caixeiro(I believe he was a clerk)

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 4:18:28 PM UTC-8, Maria wrote:
>
> Bottom left hand entry: 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>  
>
>
> For Mathias Jose Silveira, does it say he was 25( ?). ( His bride is 31). 
>   What  is"Caixeiro" as an occupation.  Google says shop keeper or bar 
> tender or delivery man.  Maybe it means something different back then. 
>
>   Also this is my first ancestor in Pico.  Does it say the church is in 
> Vila dos Lages? 
> There are 4 years of Baptisms missing from 1856-1860.   
>
> Thank you.   
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html
>  
>
> Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[Lee]

Yes, aged 25 and you have Villa dos Lajes correct.  The occupation I have no 
clue about.

Lee
Oak Hill, WV

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with groom's birth year and occupation

[Maria Lima]

Bottom left hand entry:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html


For Mathias Jose Silveira, does it say he was 25( ?). ( His bride is 31).   
What  is"Caixeiro" as an occupation.  Google says shop keeper or bar tender or 
delivery man.  Maybe it means something different back then. 

  Also this is my first ancestor in Pico.  Does it say the church is in Vila 
dos Lages?
There are 4 years of Baptisms missing from 1856-1860.  

Thank you.  



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1880-1889_item1/P122.html

Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another passport question

[Cheri Mello]

It seems to me that there was a time period where it was 1 passaporte per
familly.  Later on, it seems to me that it became 1 passaporte per person.
But I haven't researched all time periods on all islands either.  Just my
observations.

Cheri

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> Thank you, Shirl! That would explain why I'm not finding anything for the
> women.  :)
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> Shirl Sereque wrote:
>
> Kathy-
>When my ancestor came to the USA, his wife and daughters were on his
> passport.
> - Shirl -
>
>
>   On Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:58 PM, Kathy Cardoza
>   wrote:
>
>
>  In 1865, I found a 3G Uncle getting a passport in Horta. It was noted
> that he was traveling with his wife and his sister, who was single and
> would become my 2GG. So far, I haven't found a passport for either of the
> women. My question is, do ALL travelers need to get a passport when they
> are traveling together from this time and place? Or does the one suffice?
>
> Kathy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another passport question

[Kathy Cardoza]

Thank you, Shirl! That would explain why I'm not finding anything for 
the women.  :)


Kathy


Shirl Sereque wrote:

Kathy-
   When my ancestor came to the USA, his wife and daughters were on 
his passport.

- Shirl -


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:58 PM, Kathy Cardoza 
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In 1865, I found a 3G Uncle getting a passport in Horta. It was noted 
that he was traveling with his wife and his sister, who was single and 
would become my 2GG. So far, I haven't found a passport for either of 
the women. My question is, do ALL travelers need to get a passport 
when they are traveling together from this time and place? Or does the 
one suffice?


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another passport question

[Shirl Sereque]

Kathy-   When my ancestor came to the USA, his wife and daughters were on his 
passport.- Shirl -
 

 On Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:58 PM, Kathy Cardoza  
wrote:
   

 In 1865, I found a 3G Uncle getting a passport in Horta. It was noted that he 
was traveling with his wife and his sister, who was single and would become my 
2GG. So far, I haven't found a passport for either of the women. My question 
is, do ALL travelers need to get a passport when they are traveling together 
from this time and place? Or does the one suffice?
 
Kathy
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Another passport question

[Kathy Cardoza]

In 1865, I found a 3G Uncle getting a passport in Horta. It was noted 
that he was traveling with his wife and his sister, who was single and 
would become my 2GG. So far, I haven't found a passport for either of 
the women. My question is, do ALL travelers need to get a passport when 
they are traveling together from this time and place? Or does the one 
suffice?


Kathy

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