Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
Paul, the Priests abbreviated surnames all of the time prior to 1860 or so. It is not unusual at all. The Bride is Maria Vieira not Silva. It looks to me that her father is Pedro and the last name is possibly the abbreviation for Fagundes but his handwriting is so sloppy and fancy with the F, who knows! The mother is Izabel Vieira. It also looks like the grooms last name is Ledo Vieira. I don't see any parental names listed for him either. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: A relative and I are trying to find our 7th great grandfather's casamentos for his first marriage. We believe the one listed below is it, but we are scratching our heads at the surname for his wife. Their names are Francisco Ledo and Maria da Silva, but on the record (top left) it looks like her surname was abreviated to 'va'. Also, it does not list his parents (that I can see) but lists her as Pedro ? and Izabel 'va'. What would be the reason for abreviating their surnames? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg Thanks, Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
I don't know why Paul's link doesn't directly go to the CCA. I don't have the controls like I normally do. I have 1 zoom and that's it. My guess of widower is because there's no parents listed. However, the priest didn't list his deceased wife either. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rcap...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
I picked up on the abbreviations quickly and been using some of the resources you've listed before to figure them out. Where it lists Francisco Ledo, de brides name it looks like Ma to me which I thought was Maria. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 12:01:05 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
If you are using Google Chrome you can increase the zoom by clicking the box with the three lines to the right of the address bar, then click the + sign in zoom to increase. For explorer I believe you have to right click the image, click zoom then click the zoom amount you want. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 1:10:26 PM UTC-4, Paul wrote: Would using Google Chrome vs. Explorer have something to do with it? In Google I right click the image copy the URL and paste, that one you only get 1 zoom. Where as in Esplorer I right click on the imageproperties copy the URL and paste. Here is the same link using Explorer *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg. If there is a better way please let me know and I'll be happy to use it. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't know why Paul's link doesn't directly go to the CCA. I don't have the controls like I normally do. I have 1 zoom and that's it. My guess of widower is because there's no parents listed. However, the priest didn't list his deceased wife either. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rca...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii
Repost for Gloria Rodrigues, suchislife55 at gmail.com Hi Debra, My name is Gloria Rodrigues. Started doing my genealogy about 8 months now. My great grandfather Joseph Monsebo Rodrigues (assuming his name was Jose Rodrigues Mancebo) went to Hawaii from Flores Island (late 1860's to early 1870's) on a whaling ship and jumped ship there. That is all we know! We found info on him in Hawaii (not much) but not have been able to trace him or family in Flores. Was wondering if you came across that name in your research. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Gloria email: suchis...@gmail.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
Would using Google Chrome vs. Explorer have something to do with it? In Google I right click the image copy the URL and paste, that one you only get 1 zoom. Where as in Esplorer I right click on the imageproperties copy the URL and paste. Here is the same link using Explorer *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg. If there is a better way please let me know and I'll be happy to use it. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't know why Paul's link doesn't directly go to the CCA. I don't have the controls like I normally do. I have 1 zoom and that's it. My guess of widower is because there's no parents listed. However, the priest didn't list his deceased wife either. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rca...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com javascript: Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Abreviated surname?
Nov 5- 1695, RGE, Francisco Ledo viuvo, com Maria Vieira filha de Pedro Fernandes? (possibly Figueiredo) and Izabel Vieira ja defuntos. There are almost no Fagundes in early Ribeira Grande. JR On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-4, Paul wrote: A relative and I are trying to find our 7th great grandfather's casamentos for his first marriage. We believe the one listed below is it, but we are scratching our heads at the surname for his wife. Their names are Francisco Ledo and Maria da Silva, but on the record (top left) it looks like her surname was abreviated to 'va'. Also, it does not list his parents (that I can see) but lists her as Pedro ? and Izabel 'va'. What would be the reason for abreviating their surnames? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg Thanks, Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
I can start copying the address and paste it in my post if that would be better. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 1:21:20 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I'm in Firefox. I left click the link and it takes me to the CCA - usually. When some people post links though, it doesn't take me to the CCA. I'm guessing because you are right clicking the image to get the URL it's not the same as going to the address bar and copying the full URL. Maybe Joao Ventura, computer geek, (not the archivist) can explain what is going on. Mine is just a guess. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul pago...@comcast.net javascript: wrote: Would using Google Chrome vs. Explorer have something to do with it? In Google I right click the image copy the URL and paste, that one you only get 1 zoom. Where as in Esplorer I right click on the imageproperties copy the URL and paste. Here is the same link using Explorer *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg. If there is a better way please let me know and I'll be happy to use it. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't know why Paul's link doesn't directly go to the CCA. I don't have the controls like I normally do. I have 1 zoom and that's it. My guess of widower is because there's no parents listed. However, the priest didn't list his deceased wife either. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rca...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii
The Mancebo usually means the Younger. If Jose Rodrigues has a son, he would be known as Jose Rodrigues Mancebo to differentiate from his father. It is often seen applied to the first born son, when he is named for his father .It can become part of a surname. There is a family group in Lajes, Flores that has used the Rodrigues Mancebo surnames consistently for more than three generations Do you have any more info? a birthdate, death date , place of residence? Eric Edgar On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Gloria Rodrigues, suchislife55 at gmail.com Hi Debra, My name is Gloria Rodrigues. Started doing my genealogy about 8 months now. My great grandfather Joseph Monsebo Rodrigues (assuming his name was Jose Rodrigues Mancebo) went to Hawaii from Flores Island (late 1860's to early 1870's) on a whaling ship and jumped ship there. That is all we know! We found info on him in Hawaii (not much) but not have been able to trace him or family in Flores. Was wondering if you came across that name in your research. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Gloria email: suchis...@gmail.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii
I've seen Mancebo used on a nephew. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
I'm in Firefox. I left click the link and it takes me to the CCA - usually. When some people post links though, it doesn't take me to the CCA. I'm guessing because you are right clicking the image to get the URL it's not the same as going to the address bar and copying the full URL. Maybe Joao Ventura, computer geek, (not the archivist) can explain what is going on. Mine is just a guess. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: Would using Google Chrome vs. Explorer have something to do with it? In Google I right click the image copy the URL and paste, that one you only get 1 zoom. Where as in Esplorer I right click on the imageproperties copy the URL and paste. Here is the same link using Explorer *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg. If there is a better way please let me know and I'll be happy to use it. Paul G. On Sunday, May 31, 2015 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't know why Paul's link doesn't directly go to the CCA. I don't have the controls like I normally do. I have 1 zoom and that's it. My guess of widower is because there's no parents listed. However, the priest didn't list his deceased wife either. Cheri On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci rca...@gmail.com wrote: Cheri, I think you are right about the groom being a widower. I looked at the abbreviation again and it does look like it ends in an 'o'. The bride is certainly Maria Vieira though. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Groom: Francisco Ledo, widower. So his parents won't be listed. You'll need to find his first marriage. Bride: Isabel Vieira, daughter of Pedro Fagundes? and Isabel Vieira. You are in the time period where they use abbreviations. I'm sure paper and ink were considered a little bit costly back then. Maybe that is why they abbreviated back then. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics
Margaret and JR thank you so much for your help Herb Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 1:23 AM, azores@googlegroups.com wrote: azores@googlegroups.com Google Groups Topic digest View all topics Fenais da Ajuda baptism - 4 Updates Does anyone have this Francisco de Medeiros? - 2 Updates filha familias - 1 Update Fenais da Ajuda baptism Herb and Judi Silva herbandj...@verizon.net: May 30 08:05AM -0500 I estimate that one of my ancestors was born in Fenais da Ajuda circa 1710, a Barbara Macedo who later on married Manuel Pacheco who was probably from Lomba da Maia. The Fenais da Ajuda records only go back to 1713 ( I believe at that time it was called Fenais da Vera Cruz) and I have not been able to find her through 1713. Where would those baptism records be kept? I am thinking NS da Estrela, Ribeira Grande or possibly Bom Jesus in Rabo de Peixe. Any suggestions where I might be able to find this Barbara Macedo? Herb JR jmro...@gmail.com: May 30 08:35AM -0700 No, if they are from Fenais da Vera Cruz and you can't find them, they are lost or missing or blanked or page torn, etc. Macedo is not common to RG, Estrela, but there are some in Rabo de Peixe and elsewhere. When and where did Manuel Pacheco and Barbara Macedo marry? JR On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 9:05:19 AM UTC-4, Herb wrote: herb herbandj...@verizon.net: May 30 04:21PM -0400 I don't know where they married JR but their son Manuel Pacheco Medeiros married Antonia Pimentel in Maia on 11 Jan 1769. Herb Sent from my iPhone Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com: May 30 05:56PM -0400 Herb, I searched the marriage record 11 Jan 1769. Did you mean to write Antonio Pacheco? It says he's a widower. When I looked up his first marriage with Maria de Sousa 26 Nov 1753 in Maia (1742-1762-0079) it does name Manuel Pacheco x Barbara Macedo as his parents. His name however shows as Antonio de Sousa Pacheco. In any case, what I'm trying to say is that based on his first marriage timeline the parents records are available in Fenais da Ajuda as they start in 1683 and he first married in 1753... Margaret -- Margaret M Vicente Back to top Does anyone have this Francisco de Medeiros? Neuza Medeiros medeirosne...@gmail.com: May 30 10:08AM -0700 Olá Pat Sylvia! Tenho alguns dados anteriores de MANUEL DE MEDEIROS E MARIA MELLO. Este casal está em minha ascendência indireta. Pretendo publicar aqui neste grupo assim que tiver mais dados desta linha dos MEDEIROS. Da minha linha direta, filho deste casal FRANCISCO DE MEDEIROS E MARIA JÁCOME, é SILVESTRE DE MEDEIROS, irmão de MANOEL DE MEDEIROS, casado com MARIA DE MELLO. *FILHOS DE FRANCISCO DE MEDEIROS E MARIA JÁCOME:* *. MANOEL DE MEDEIROS* *Nascimento:* 01/12/1731 - do lugar deMaia *(SMG-RG-MAIA-B-1731-1743_0023)* *Casamento:* 25/01/1752, com *MARIA DE MELLO*, natural de Maia *(SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_0061) * *Morte:* *??* *MARIA DE MELLO* *Nascimento:* *??* *Morte **??* *PAIS DE MARIA DE MELLO:* *JOAN VIEIRA* e de *MARIA DE MELLO* *FILHOS DE MANOEL DE MEDEIROS E MARIA DE MELLO*: .*MANOEL DE MEDEIROS* *Nascimento**: **?* *Casamento**: 12/07/1781, com ANA DA CONCEIÇÃO * *(SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1777-1797_044)* *Morte**: **?* Em quarta-feira, 29 de abril de 2015 13:41:19 UTC-3, Pat Sylvia escreveu: JR jmro...@gmail.com: May 30 02:26PM -0700 I will get back to you later, Have to go now. Here is marriage: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1705-1742_item1/P176.html On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 3:27:00 PM UTC-4, Neuza Medeiros wrote: Back to top filha familias Eliseu Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@gmail.com: May 30 07:35AM FILHA/O FAMÍLIAS means she was under 25 years of age (living with his family). eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri Mello Enviada: sábado, 30 de Maio de 2015 00:20 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] filha familias Hi Bill, There's no link for the record. If I had to guess, she was the daughter of the family that gave the priest a realy good bottle of wine! All joking aside, it usually says son/daughter of the family of ___. Sounds like the priest left it out. Cheri On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com mailto:bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: This record (top left that started on the previous page) has for madrinha: Dona Maria Angelina, solteira, filha familias, moradora na Vila das Velas What is meant by filha familias? daughter of what family? Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into
[AZORES-Genealogy] Brum, Azevedo, Pacheco from Lajes do Pico and Sao Jorge islands to Bakersfield, California
Repost for MHart, desertqueenofhearts at gmail.com I'm the unofficial amateur historian/genealogist in my family. My mother's father, Manuel de Brum, and all four of her grandparents Manuel de Brum/Maria Jascinta da Rosa Victorino Joaquin Azevedo (aka Frank Silva)/Marianna Rosa Pacheco were born in the Azores. I've been told that Lajes on Pico and St. George is where they lived. Mom's family ended up in the Bakersfield area where her mother was born. My mother was also born in Bakersfield. 2016 marks what would have been her 100th birthday. My 4 sisters and I are planning a trip to the Azores next year in her honor. I have several documents that a distant cousin received from a researcher in the Azores on Manuel de Brum. Otherwise, I haven't had an opportunity to do further research. That cousin indicated that we still have kin living there. During our Azores trip, my sisters and I would love to connect with relatives there. Is this realistic? I'm also hoping to take this once in a lifetime opportunity to do research while I am there. Should I hire someone there in advance to work with? Any direction you or the other members of the group can give me would be most appreciated. Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Angra, Terceira Lodging
I stayed at Zenite Hotel, one block from the Library, in the center of Angra. Very nice, very clean, cordial staff and breakfast included. Parking in Angra is very difficult and hard to find a spot, and if you find, need to check if its permitted. Being just a few steps from the library and the Sé was great. On the weekends parking in Angra is free. Returning to Angra, I will stay there again. http://www.hotelzenite.com/quem/index.php Isabella Baltar myportuguesegen.blogspot.com On Thursday, May 28, 2015 at 5:25:34 PM UTC-4, Lisach wrote: Hi Everyone, I am looking for Lodging recommendations for my late August trip to the Azores in or near Angra. Thank you! Lisa Caetano Harley -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph Monsebo (or Mancebo) Rodrigues, Flores to Hawaii
Thanks for that information Eric. I have seen Mancebo and have always thought it was a surname. Learned something new.;) ♥Edna dave-e...@comcast.net The Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you. (Numbers 6:24-25) On May 31, 2015, at 11:59 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The Mancebo usually means the Younger. If Jose Rodrigues has a son, he would be known as Jose Rodrigues Mancebo to differentiate from his father. It is often seen applied to the first born son, when he is named for his father .It can become part of a surname. There is a family group in Lajes, Flores that has used the Rodrigues Mancebo surnames consistently for more than three generations Do you have any more info? a birthdate, death date , place of residence? Eric Edgar On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Gloria Rodrigues, suchislife55 at gmail.com http://gmail.com/ Hi Debra, My name is Gloria Rodrigues. Started doing my genealogy about 8 months now. My great grandfather Joseph Monsebo Rodrigues (assuming his name was Jose Rodrigues Mancebo) went to Hawaii from Flores Island (late 1860's to early 1870's) on a whaling ship and jumped ship there. That is all we know! We found info on him in Hawaii (not much) but not have been able to trace him or family in Flores. Was wondering if you came across that name in your research. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Gloria email: suchis...@gmail.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Is this the death of Emilia or her husband? Please help translate.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1890-1899/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1890-1899_item1/P47.html Lower right side for Emilia. Notation is it the death of her or her husband? Thanks so much! Lillian -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brum, Azevedo, Pacheco from Lajes do Pico and Sao Jorge islands to Bakersfield, California
To MHart. From Sandra Valine DauerI've done a little research on the Portuguese families in Kern County as a member of the Kern County Genealogy Society. Is your Manuel Brum Born 01 Nov 1875 (1873) and died 09 April 1920 in Bakersfield. Married to Margaret Silva born around 1883? This may be your Manuel Brum listed on the Uminho site http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel;n=brum;oc=2 Ancestors of Manuel ?[image: ] http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;m=A;i=9902;oc=945 [image: ^^] http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=enTo the 7th generation. - Generation 1 - 1 - Manuel ? http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;i=9902;oc=945 *1873* - Generation 2 - 2 - Manuel Brum http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel;n=brum;oc=2 *+1882* - 3 - Maria Jacinta http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=jacinta;oc=16 *1849-1922* - Generation 3 - 4 - Manuel Brum http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel;n=brum;oc=8 *+1862* - 5 - Ana Francisca http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=ana;n=francisca;oc=24 *+1850* - 6 - Manuel Rosa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel;n=rosa;oc=2 *1814-1875* - 7 - Catarina Jacinta http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=catarina;n=jacinta;oc=1 *1823-1879* - Generation 4 - 12 - José Rosa Vieira Catêlo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=jose+rosa+vieira;n=catelo *1778-1884* - 13 - Ana Francisca Macedo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=ana+francisca;n=macedo *1788-1863* - 14 - José Inácio Rosa Brum http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=jose+inacio+rosa;n=brum *1786-1863* - 15 - Ana Jacinta http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=ana;n=jacinta;oc=1 *1787-1860* - Generation 5 - 24 - Manuel Rosa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel;n=rosa;oc=10 *+1805* - 25 - Maria Francisca http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=francisca;oc=123 *+1813* - 26 - Manuel Francisco Goulart http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel+francisco;n=goulart *1745-1796* - 27 - Maria Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=silveira;oc=12 *+1808* - 28 - Manuel Inácio da Rosa Goulart http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel+inacio+da+rosa;n=goulart *1734-1798* - 29 - Maria de Brum http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria+de;n=brum;oc=2 *1745-1798* - 30 - José Vieira de Macedo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=jose+vieira+de;n=macedo - 31 - Catarina Jacinta http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=catarina;n=jacinta *1744-1824* - Generation 6 - 52 - Francisco Vieira Goulart http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=francisco+vieira;n=goulart *+1785* - 53 - Francisca do Rosário http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=francisca+do;n=rosario;oc=1 *+1791* - 54 - Manuel Silveira Machado Madruga http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel+silveira+machado;n=madruga *+1795* - 55 - Maria de Macedo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria+de;n=macedo *+1805* - 56 - António Goulart Rosa http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=antonio+goulart;n=rosa *+1781* - 57 - Maria Piedade http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=piedade;oc=7 *+1770* - 58 - Manuel Francisco de Melo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=manuel+francisco+de;n=melo - 59 - Teresa Francisca da Silveira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=teresa+francisca+da;n=silveira *+1797* - 60 - Francisco Vieira Macedo http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=francisco+vieira;n=macedo;oc=1 *+1765* - 61 - Maria Francisca http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=maria;n=francisca;oc=114 *+1791* - 62 - Feliciano Vieira http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=en;p=feliciano;n=vieira - 63 - Ana Silveira
[AZORES-Genealogy] Abreviated surname?
A relative and I are trying to find our 7th great grandfather's casamentos for his first marriage. We believe the one listed below is it, but we are scratching our heads at the surname for his wife. Their names are Francisco Ledo and Maria da Silva, but on the record (top left) it looks like her surname was abreviated to 'va'. Also, it does not list his parents (that I can see) but lists her as Pedro ? and Izabel 'va'. What would be the reason for abreviating their surnames? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_item1/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_JPG/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1676-1697_0179.jpg Thanks, Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
