Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui Goncalves de Medeiros who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief of Evora. The Medeiros Family seems to be a
Thank you, George, for sharing this very useful information (I have Medeiros in my line). Would you share the source of this information - is it all from Guill or multiple sources. The reason I ask is that I work at NYU and the library has a decent number of books on Portugal that I can access. I currently have all 4 volumes of Saudade da Terra. The lovely thing about it is I can renew the books 4 or 5 times over for 3 months each time. I have the index here at home and the rest of the volumes in my office at school. I looked up Medeiros and found multiple references to Rui Vaz and some of the other names you list including Jordão, João, Rafael, etc. I will look them up when I return to work tomorrow. I also have a book called Capitães dos Donatários 1439-1766. Here is an except (roughly translated followed by the original) from chapter 2, oage 25. ...drawn to S. Miguel (were) various persons and families, some of elevated social standing, like Gaspar de Bettencourt, descendent of the King of the Canaries, Antão Pacheco, descendent of old noblemen of Castela, Rui Barbosa, native of Minho, Fernão Camelo Pereira, native of Castelo Branco, Fernão Ànes Tavares, native of Portalegre, Martins Ànes de Sousa, from Madeira, Rui Vaz de Medeiros, of Ponte de Lima, married to Àna de Mendonça Furtado, from Madeira, and Rui Vaz Gago do Trato, married to Catarina Gomes Raposo, all of whom left numerous descendants who still today have here representatives in the families Bettencourt, Pacheco, Raposo, Correia, Barbosa and others. (See Gaspar Frutuoso, Saudade da Terra, Volume I, pages 68-140.) (...atraiu para S. Miguel várias pessoas e familías, algumas de elevada categoria social, como Gaspar de Bettencourt, descendente do Rei das Canárias, Antão Pacheco, descendente de antigos fidalgos de Castela, Rui Barbosa, natural do Minho, Fernão Camelo Pereira, natural de Castelo Branco, Fernão Ànes Tavares, natural de Portalegre, Martins Ànes de Sousa, da Madeira, Rui Vaz de Medeiros, de Ponte de Lima, casado com Àna de Mendoça Furtado, da Madeira, e Rui Vaz Gago do Trato*, casado com Catarina Gomes Raposo, os quais deixaram numerosa descendência que ainda hoje tem aqui os seus representantes nas familías Bettencourt, Pacheco, Raposo, Correia, Barbosa e outras. *Chamado do Trato por ser homem mui poderoso e tratar com el-rei na Mina, Cabo Verde e outras partes, onde mandava seus navios(Vide Gaspar Frutuoso, obracitada, vol. I, pág. 86) On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:59 PM, George Medeiros wrote: > First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui Goncalves > de Medeiros who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief of > Evora. The Medeiros Family seems to be a place of de Medeiros in the Parish > of Vila Cha in the municipality of Montalegre, in the Vila Real District in > the Province of Tras-os-Montes.The crater is 5km from the county seat and > is 16 km from the border with Spain on the edge of the Barroso Mountains. >These places are included in the Parish of Vila Cha : >1. Castanheira > 2. Firvidas > 3. Gralhos > 4. Medeiros > 5. Peirezes > 6. Penedones > 7. Sao Vicente > 8. Travarsos Tea > 9. Trogueda > > In the 15th century one branch of the Medeiros family leaving > Ponte de Lima set up > in the Algarve and another branch went to the island of Sao Miguel in the > Azores.In 1420-1450 James Guill list several family heads in the Madeira > archipelago.One person mentioned is Rui Vaz de Medeiros a native of Ponte > de Lima in the Guimarae's region who was a contemporary of Goncalves de > Medeiros. In 1474 Rui Vaz went to Madeira during the first colonization of > the island. He married D. Ana ( or Mecia) Mendonca Goncalves who was the > daughter of Jorge de Mendonca .This couple moved with their family to Sao > Miguel,Azores and had a lot land at the end of Lagoa.They arrived in Sao > Miguel with 3rd Captain Don Rui Goncalves of Camara. >Rui Vaz de Medeiros and D. Ana Goncalves children were: > 1. Vasco de Medeiros ( Rui Vaz) > 2.Rafael de Medeiros > 3. Joao Vaz de Medeiros > 4. Jordan Vaz de Medeiros > 5. White Days Medeiros > 6. Guiomar Ruiz de Medeiros > 7. Maria de Medeiros > > Rui Vaz de Medeiros known as Vasco de Medeiros settled in the town of > Lagoa or in Alagoa Village on Sao Miguel ,Azores. He was married to > Catherine Bridge the daughter of Fernando Rodrigues a noble of Lagoa. Many > Azoreans with the Medeiros surname are descendents of this Vasco de > Medeiros. > > Vasco's siblings : > 1. Rafael married the daughter of Antonio Roiz Carneiro > the Governor > of Santa Maria Island. > 2. Joao married Isabel Frias > 3. Jordan married Vila Franca
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui Goncalves de Medeiros who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief of Evora. The Medeiros Family seems to be a
You need to source your information... On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 12:09:33 AM UTC-4, migueldeavery wrote: > >First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui Goncalves > de Medeiros who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief of > Evora. The Medeiros Family seems to be a place of de Medeiros in the Parish > of Vila Cha in the municipality of Montalegre, in the Vila Real District in > the Province of Tras-os-Montes.The crater is 5km from the county seat and > is 16 km from the border with Spain on the edge of the Barroso Mountains. >These places are included in the Parish of Vila Cha : >1. Castanheira > 2. Firvidas > 3. Gralhos > 4. Medeiros > 5. Peirezes > 6. Penedones > 7. Sao Vicente > 8. Travarsos Tea > 9. Trogueda > > In the 15th century one branch of the Medeiros family leaving > Ponte de Lima set up > in the Algarve and another branch went to the island of Sao Miguel in the > Azores.In 1420-1450 James Guill list several family heads in the Madeira > archipelago.One person mentioned is Rui Vaz de Medeiros a native of Ponte > de Lima in the Guimarae's region who was a contemporary of Goncalves de > Medeiros. In 1474 Rui Vaz went to Madeira during the first colonization of > the island. He married D. Ana ( or Mecia) Mendonca Goncalves who was the > daughter of Jorge de Mendonca .This couple moved with their family to Sao > Miguel,Azores and had a lot land at the end of Lagoa.They arrived in Sao > Miguel with 3rd Captain Don Rui Goncalves of Camara. >Rui Vaz de Medeiros and D. Ana Goncalves children were: > 1. Vasco de Medeiros ( Rui Vaz) > 2.Rafael de Medeiros > 3. Joao Vaz de Medeiros > 4. Jordan Vaz de Medeiros > 5. White Days Medeiros > 6. Guiomar Ruiz de Medeiros > 7. Maria de Medeiros > > Rui Vaz de Medeiros known as Vasco de Medeiros settled in the town of > Lagoa or in Alagoa Village on Sao Miguel ,Azores. He was married to > Catherine Bridge the daughter of Fernando Rodrigues a noble of Lagoa. Many > Azoreans with the Medeiros surname are descendents of this Vasco de > Medeiros. > > Vasco's siblings : > 1. Rafael married the daughter of Antonio Roiz Carneiro > the Governor > of Santa Maria Island. > 2. Joao married Isabel Frias > 3. Jordan married Vila Franca the daughter of Francisco > Afonso de Paiva > 4. White married Diogo Afonso da Costa Cogombreiro > 5. Guiomar married Anes Lope de Araujo > 6. Maria de Medeiros ( was married 3 times ) > > Doing some research I found this information in Portuguese. I tried to > write it more clearly for myself. Does anyone in the group have more > accurate information on this history of the Medeiros surname or any > corrections for me on what I have written here as to accuracy ? > George M. ( Pereira ) Medeiros Jr. > > > Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help/passport registry
It says Cedros on Faial. If you think that's her, go to the Cedros baptisms and look for an Anna born to those parents. Your message didn't say what led you to believe she was from Faial. Cheri On Jun 7, 2015 7:08 AM, "Kimberly Reeve" wrote: > I think I found my GG grandmother who came from the Azores according to a > marriage document. I am not familiar enough yet with the Passport Registry > to be sure. Here is what I know. Her name was Anna da Gloria Ferro > according to her marriage license she was from the Azores. Her fathers > name was Manuel da Gloria and her mother was Maria Ferro. I'm still a bit > unclear on how the Portuguese surnames work. Also there is a bit of > variation on the name, some records have Fino instead of Ferro, however > since this record was completed at least in her presence, I'm going with > Ferro. Her death certificate list her date of birth as February 21, 1867, > this is fairly consistant across the census records. Census records show > some variation in her arrival date. Two records list 1884 and one lists > 1880. She is not in the 1880 census and likely the last census record was > completed by Anna's second husband who may not have known when she > arrived. My best guess has been that her immigration occurred in 1884. I > have also seen her name as De Gloria and Da Gloria. I visited the Family > History Library last year trying to make some headway on this line. They > recommended the Passport records as a starting place since I did not know > what village she came from. Once she immigrated she lived in San Francisco > and then Berkeley. I am including a copy of the record I found that might > be her. The age is about right, although she really should have been 17 > not 16. It's the 4th record from the bottom. I can't read enough to tell > what the various columns say. Any help would be appreciated. > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
> I had no idea which island or village she is from. I only knew the Azores > from her marriage document. I just looked through every passport for the > year 1884 because I was fairly sure that is when she immigrated. This was > the only Anna de Gloria I found that year that was the right age. It's at > least a starting place. can you tell me what her profession is? It looks > like they wrote gen dom, some kind of domestic maybe? It also looks like > she traveled alone. I've seen entries that are families and this does not > look like those. There were notes in the Observances column, but it looks > like they were for the person above her. Her destination seems to be USA > and there is a small CA three could that be California?. Finally, the > ships name almost looks like "Veronica" which can't be right. > I just this past couple years have been brave enough to try research over seas. I had good results with Sweden and am really just beginning Portugal. I like doing it myself, it's like a puzzle as I found with Sweden, it takes a bit of guidance to comprehend the records and get use to the format. Thanks for any help you can provide. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
I really can't read the document. I strained to get Cedros for you. You need to send the link from the CCA so the reader has control over the zoom and can fit it to their own eyes. The Azores GenWeb is here: http://goo.gl/p5TGBV How to get started (from the Azores GenWeb) is here: http://goo.gl/lqNtnd Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Google translation of article in Portuguese on the history of surname Medeiros
Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: George Medeiros > Date: June 7, 2015 9:22:11 AM PDT > To: Azores > Subject: Google Translate > > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://cotrim.no.sapo.pt/PAGINA32.htm&prev=search > > > Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
Here is the link http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
I'm reading Veronica for the ship. On Jun 7, 2015 2:23 PM, "Kimberly Reeve" wrote: > Here is the link > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html > >> >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
The Veronica is not listed as ever arriving in the US after her passport date. It arrived 31 Jul 1884, then does not show up again in records The next ship she could have been on was the Acoriana, then the Adelia The Anna da gloria Ferro that shows up in Ancestry ship list searches is from Santa Cruz , Flores Eric Edgar On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > I'm reading Veronica for the ship. > On Jun 7, 2015 2:23 PM, "Kimberly Reeve" wrote: > >> Here is the link >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html >> >>> >>> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Sale information
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes) I was given some coupon codes from the genealogy show in southern CA that can be used until Sunday, June 21st. Please email me directly at gfscherim at gmail.com. Let me know if you are interested in Y-DNA, mtDNA, or Family Finder. Family Tree DNA's Sizzling Summer Sale will most likely happen late summer, not the traditional June/July as it was in the past. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator (volunteer) -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
Hi Kimberly, Welcome! Here's a crib sheet for the passport page you posted to help get you started. I hope this helps in your search. It [mostly] gets easier after you find the right village. -- Ano/Year: 1884 Mes/Month: September Dia/Day: 5 Passport number: 461 Nomes/Names: Anna da Gloria Estado/Status: solteira/single Professao/Profession: gov.o dom.co [I read this as "governo de sua domestico", i.e., "keeper of her own house"; this phrase is used in marriage records of this period, and means, I believe, engaged full time in household duties/chores but not employed outside the family] Edade/Age: 16 Signaes/Characteristics Altura/Height: 1,53 = 1 meter 53 cm Resto/: Comp.?? Cabello/Hair: Cast.o = castanho/brown ?: Cast.o = castanho/brown Olhos/Eyes: Cast.o = castanho/brown Nari??/Nose?: regular Bocca/Mouth: regular Cor??/Color??: N.al = natural??? [perhaps meaning "white"?] Destino/Destination: E U d'Am.ca = Estados Unidos d'America/ USA Quem leva en sua companhia/Who they take with them: BLANK Naturalidade/Birthplace Ilha/Island: Fayal/Faial Conselho/Council: Hurta?/Horta Freguezia/Village: Cedros/Cedros Sabe escrever/Knows how to write: nao/no Nome do Navio/Ship Name: Veronica Observacoes/Observations [Distinguishing Marks]: BLANK [the line above says the fellow has a blondish beard and a scar of some sort] --- Also, many of the ships from the Azores landed at the immigration stations at Boston, so you might have luck searching those ship lists through Ancestry.com or Steve Morse's OneStep site. Best wishes, Linda On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-7, Kimberly Reeve wrote: > > Here is the link > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html > >> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
Thank you very much. That is great information. I'm hopeful this is my Anna, but I've been down false trails before. On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 5:20:30 PM UTC-7, linda wrote: > > Hi Kimberly, > > Welcome! Here's a crib sheet for the passport page you posted to help get > you started. I hope this helps in your search. It [mostly] gets easier > after you find the right village. > > -- > > Ano/Year: 1884 > Mes/Month: September > Dia/Day: 5 > > Passport number: 461 > > Nomes/Names: Anna da Gloria > Estado/Status: solteira/single > Professao/Profession: gov.o dom.co [I read this as "governo de sua > domestico", i.e., "keeper of her own house"; this phrase is used in > marriage records of this period, and means, I believe, engaged full time in > household duties/chores but not employed outside the family] > Edade/Age: 16 > > Signaes/Characteristics > Altura/Height: 1,53 = 1 meter 53 cm > Resto/: Comp.?? > Cabello/Hair: Cast.o = castanho/brown > ?: Cast.o = castanho/brown > Olhos/Eyes: Cast.o = castanho/brown > Nari??/Nose?: regular > Bocca/Mouth: regular > Cor??/Color??: N.al = natural??? [perhaps meaning "white"?] > > Destino/Destination: E U d'Am.ca = Estados Unidos d'America/ USA > > Quem leva en sua companhia/Who they take with them: BLANK > > Naturalidade/Birthplace > Ilha/Island: Fayal/Faial > Conselho/Council: Hurta?/Horta > Freguezia/Village: Cedros/Cedros > > Sabe escrever/Knows how to write: nao/no > > Nome do Navio/Ship Name: Veronica > > Observacoes/Observations [Distinguishing Marks]: BLANK [the line above > says the fellow has a blondish beard and a scar of some sort] > --- > > > > Also, many of the ships from the Azores landed at the immigration stations > at Boston, so you might have luck searching those ship lists through > Ancestry.com or Steve Morse's OneStep site. > > Best wishes, > > Linda > > > > On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 2:23:53 PM UTC-7, Kimberly Reeve wrote: >> >> Here is the link >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html >> >>> >>> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help/passport registry
I did note that about the Veronica, I saw an arrival July 1884 and I did see one for July possibly 1885 although there was some question about that date. I'm interested in the positive search you had on Ancestry. I've been a member there for some time and never had a hit on the passengers lists for her. Could you link the record you found? Certainly, that too is a possibility if the dates are right. I know absolutely that she was in San Francisco and married by 1887 when her first child is born. Of course the fact that many records burned in the 1906 earthquake does not make things any easier. On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: > > The Veronica is not listed as ever arriving in the US after her passport > date. It arrived 31 Jul 1884, then does not show up again in records The > next ship she could have been on was the Acoriana, then the Adelia > > The Anna da gloria Ferro that shows up in Ancestry ship list searches is > from Santa Cruz , Flores > > Eric Edgar > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Cheri Mello > wrote: > >> I'm reading Veronica for the ship. >> On Jun 7, 2015 2:23 PM, "Kimberly Reeve" > >> wrote: >> >>> Here is the link >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1876-1889_item1/P162.html >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.