Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Laura Flanagan]

Remember, this post was intended to see if anyone knows the Carvalho family
and/or their descendants!  :-)

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Becky Mendonca  wrote:

> Ok, thank you!
> On Apr 28, 2016 12:43 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Becky, I misspoke.
>>
>> The free autosomal transfer came through on the kit registered to your
>> email on Feb. 15th. The mtDNA is due in a couple of weeks. MtDNA takes
>> longer than autosomal.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Becky,
>>>
>>> The kit registered to your email address for a man came in Feb. 15th.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Becky Mendonca 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks
 now..can't wait.
 On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more 
> people
> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan <
> lauraann0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
>> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
>> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
>> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
>> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
>> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
>> Laura
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laura,
>>>
>>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what
>>> looks like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
>>> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello cousin!
 what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
 descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
 through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the 
 brother
 of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little 
 info on
 that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.

 One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
 addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
 Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share 
 what I
 have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!

 Welcome to the family!
 *Joanne*

 *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
 Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa
 (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)



 On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
 wrote:

> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd
> great grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble 
> identifying
> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
> information would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco
> Carvalho and Francisca Thomasia
> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca
> / paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>
> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>
> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26
> Feb 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria
> Jacintha / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina
> Carvalho)
>
> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Becky Mendonca]

Ok, thank you!
On Apr 28, 2016 12:43 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Sorry, Becky, I misspoke.
>
> The free autosomal transfer came through on the kit registered to your
> email on Feb. 15th. The mtDNA is due in a couple of weeks. MtDNA takes
> longer than autosomal.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Becky,
>>
>> The kit registered to your email address for a man came in Feb. 15th.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Becky Mendonca 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks
>>> now..can't wait.
>>> On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
 matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
 test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
 impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
 to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan <
 lauraann0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Cheri,
> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
> Laura
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> Laura,
>>
>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
>> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello cousin!
>>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the 
>>> brother
>>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info 
>>> on
>>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>>
>>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share 
>>> what I
>>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>>
>>> Welcome to the family!
>>> *Joanne*
>>>
>>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa
>>> (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd
 great grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble 
 identifying
 descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
 information would be greatly appreciated!

 Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco
 Carvalho and Francisca Thomasia
 (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca
 / paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)

 married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to

 Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26
 Feb 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
 (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria
 Jacintha / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina
 Carvalho)

 Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
 Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have 
 not yet
 found):

 Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
 Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
 Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
 Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: From Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel island to Canada

[Cheri Mello]

The poster said they are from Ponta Garca and live in Canada. No request
for help nor any ancestors mentioned.
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: From Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel island to Canada

[JR]

There is no information attached to this posting.

JR

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 3:27:11 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for M.J. Santos Rego, azores1270 at gmail.com
>
> we are from ponta garca sao miguel azores but we live in canada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DA PONTE'S of MAIA

[Sandra Perez]

Does anybody have DA PONTE'S of Espirito Santo, Maia?  I have Jose da Ponte
fo Joao da Ponte e Josepha da Ponte nal Espirito Santo, Maia married Anna
Maria 14 Nov 1785 in Rosto de
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Becky Mendonca]

Yes..it was Feb! So hopefully it will be completed soon:)
On Apr 28, 2016 12:28 PM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Becky,
>
> The kit registered to your email address for a man came in Feb. 15th.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Becky Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks
>> now..can't wait.
>> On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
>>> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
>>> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
>>> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
>>> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan >> > wrote:
>>>
 Cheri,
 I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
 matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
 and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
 thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
 Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
 see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
 Laura

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> Laura,
>
> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello cousin!
>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info 
>> on
>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>
>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share 
>> what I
>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>
>> Welcome to the family!
>> *Joanne*
>>
>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa
>> (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd
>>> great grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
>>> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
>>> information would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco
>>> Carvalho and Francisca Thomasia
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
>>> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>>>
>>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>>>
>>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
>>> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria
>>> Jacintha / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina
>>> Carvalho)
>>>
>>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
>>> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not 
>>> yet
>>> found):
>>>
>>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
>>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
>>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
>>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
>>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
>>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov
>>> 1953
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Cheri Mello]

Sorry, Becky, I misspoke.

The free autosomal transfer came through on the kit registered to your
email on Feb. 15th. The mtDNA is due in a couple of weeks. MtDNA takes
longer than autosomal.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Becky,
>
> The kit registered to your email address for a man came in Feb. 15th.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Becky Mendonca 
> wrote:
>
>> We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks
>> now..can't wait.
>> On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
>>> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
>>> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
>>> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
>>> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan >> > wrote:
>>>
 Cheri,
 I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
 matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
 and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
 thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
 Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
 see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
 Laura

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> Laura,
>
> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello cousin!
>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info 
>> on
>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>
>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share 
>> what I
>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>
>> Welcome to the family!
>> *Joanne*
>>
>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa
>> (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd
>>> great grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
>>> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
>>> information would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco
>>> Carvalho and Francisca Thomasia
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
>>> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>>>
>>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>>>
>>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
>>> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria
>>> Jacintha / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina
>>> Carvalho)
>>>
>>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
>>> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not 
>>> yet
>>> found):
>>>
>>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
>>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
>>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
>>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
>>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
>>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov
>>> 1953
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> For options, such as changing to List, 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Cheri Mello]

Becky,

The kit registered to your email address for a man came in Feb. 15th.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Becky Mendonca  wrote:

> We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks
> now..can't wait.
> On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
>> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
>> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
>> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
>> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri,
>>> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
>>> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
>>> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
>>> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
>>> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
>>> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Laura,

 Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
 like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
 musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello cousin!
> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>
> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what 
> I
> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>
> Welcome to the family!
> *Joanne*
>
> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa
> (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
> wrote:
>
>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd
>> great grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
>> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
>> information would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco
>> Carvalho and Francisca Thomasia
>> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
>> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>>
>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>>
>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
>> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
>> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria
>> Jacintha / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina
>> Carvalho)
>>
>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
>> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not 
>> yet
>> found):
>>
>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] From Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel island to Canada

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for M.J. Santos Rego, azores1270 at gmail.com

we are from ponta garca sao miguel azores but we live in canada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Laura Flanagan]

We solved a recent 100% Portuguese adoptee's search with my theory, so it
just proves it! Her closest match was a 2nd cousin.  :-)  In addition, the
Excel Spreadsheet clearly demonstrates the predicted relationships, v. the
actual relationships, complete with cmg and seg amounts for those with
known Azorean lines.  For the adoptee you are helping, this info should be
useful.  Focus more on matches that are not 100% Portuguese, and you will
reduce the impact of endogamy on your search!

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
>> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
>> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
>> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
>> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
>> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
>> Laura
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Laura,
>>>
>>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
>>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
>>> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello cousin!
 what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
 descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
 through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
 of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
 that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.

 One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
 addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
 Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I
 have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!

 Welcome to the family!
 *Joanne*

 *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
 Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
 d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)



 On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
 wrote:

> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
> grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
> information would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
> and Francisca Thomasia
> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>
> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>
> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha
> / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)
>
> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not 
> yet
> found):
>
> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Becky Mendonca]

We're still waiting for our dna results...its been about 6 weeks now..can't
wait.
On Apr 28, 2016 11:56 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
> matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
> test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
> impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
> to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
>> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
>> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
>> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
>> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
>> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
>> Laura
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Laura,
>>>
>>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
>>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier <
>>> musicmavene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello cousin!
 what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
 descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
 through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
 of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
 that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.

 One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
 addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
 Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I
 have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!

 Welcome to the family!
 *Joanne*

 *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
 Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
 d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)



 On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
 wrote:

> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
> grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
> information would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
> and Francisca Thomasia
> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>
> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>
> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha
> / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)
>
> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
> Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not 
> yet
> found):
>
> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, and I have another adoptee where endogamy is impacting the close
matches. We can't prove all families off of one. We need many people to
test and we need to look to see how endogamy (and how much endogamy)
impacts the various families that have tested thus far. We need more people
to DNA test to figure this all out. Hopefully your theory is correct.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Laura Flanagan 
wrote:

> Cheri,
> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
> Laura
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Laura,
>>
>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello cousin!
>>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
>>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
>>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>>
>>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I
>>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>>
>>> Welcome to the family!
>>> *Joanne*
>>>
>>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
>>> d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
 grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
 descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
 information would be greatly appreciated!

 Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
 and Francisca Thomasia
 (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
 paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)

 married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to

 Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
 (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha
 / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)

 Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
 Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet
 found):

 Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
 Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
 Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
 Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
 Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
 Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Laura Flanagan]

P.S.  One ot the tricks to reducing the impact of endogamy in adoption
searches is to focus on the matches that are 1/2 are 1/4 Portuguese
this greatly reduces the impact! :-)

I am VERY excited about this new relationship we have discovered. now
we need to find them!

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Laura Flanagan 
wrote:

> Cheri,
> I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
> matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
> and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
> thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
> Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
> see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
> Laura
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Laura,
>>
>> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks
>> like an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello cousin!
>>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
>>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
>>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>>
>>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I
>>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>>
>>> Welcome to the family!
>>> *Joanne*
>>>
>>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
>>> d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
 grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
 descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
 information would be greatly appreciated!

 Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
 and Francisca Thomasia
 (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
 paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)

 married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to

 Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
 (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha
 / paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)

 Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda
 Bretanha, (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet
 found):

 Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
 Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
 Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
 Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
 Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
 Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Laura Flanagan]

Cheri,
I am working with a dna guru on this and we have triangulated 10 dna
matches to this couple.  The strongest match shares 160 seg on one side,
and a 61 cmg match on the other, along with 8 others.  This is a sure
thing.  I am attaching a chart for you I have created regarding known
Azorean cousins v. dna relationships.  As you get 4th and closer, you can
see that endogomy does not impact the results as much as one may think!
Laura

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Laura,
>
> Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks like
> an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello cousin!
>> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
>> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
>> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
>> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
>> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>>
>> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical
>> addiction about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from
>> Bretanha are related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I
>> have on them if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>>
>> Welcome to the family!
>> *Joanne*
>>
>> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
>> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
>> d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
>>> grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
>>> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
>>> information would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
>>> and Francisca Thomasia
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
>>> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>>>
>>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>>>
>>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb
>>> 1833 Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
>>> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha /
>>> paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)
>>>
>>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda Bretanha,
>>> (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet found):
>>>
>>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
>>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
>>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
>>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
>>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
>>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Cheri Mello]

Laura,

Just beware because of our endogomy issue (intermarriage), what looks like
an 2rd-3rd cousin may be more like 3rd-4th cousin.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> Hello cousin!
> what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than
> descendants for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related
> through Manuel Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother
> of my 2x great grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on
> that line so maybe between us we can fill in some gaps.
>
> One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical addiction
> about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from Bretanha are
> related so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I have on them
> if it will be a help to you. Just let me know!
>
> Welcome to the family!
> *Joanne*
>
> *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier*
> Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz,
> d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)
>
>
>
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan 
> wrote:
>
>> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great
>> grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying
>> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant
>> information would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho
>> and Francisca Thomasia
>> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca /
>> paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
>>
>> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
>>
>> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb 1833
>> Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.
>> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha /
>> paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)
>>
>> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda Bretanha,
>> (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet found):
>>
>> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898
>> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
>> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
>> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta
>> Delgada, on 3 Apr 1955
>> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Joanne Mercier]

Hello cousin! 
what little I have I can gladly share but I have more ancestry than descendants 
for that branch of the family tree. It seems we are related through Manuel 
Medeiros Grota & Maria Francesca Moura - he is the brother of my 2x great 
grandfather Antonio de Medeiros. I have very little info on that line so maybe 
between us we can fill in some gaps. 

One piece of information I was told when I began my genealogical addiction 
about 15 years ago was that all the Medeiros Grota's from Bretanha are related 
so that has been a huge help. I'll gladly share what I have on them if it will 
be a help to you. Just let me know!

Welcome to the family!
Joanne

Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier
Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, 
d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia)

> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Laura Flanagan  > wrote:
> So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great 
> grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying 
> descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant 
> information would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho and 
> Francisca Thomasia
> (maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca / paternal 
> grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)
> 
> married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to
> 
> Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb 1833 
> Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.  
> (maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha / 
> paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)
> 
> Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda Bretanha, 
> (there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet found):
> 
> Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898 
> Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
> Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
> Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta Delgada, on 
> 3 Apr 1955
> Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores/Portuguese Genealogy Conference, Salt Lake City, Utah, Tues, September 6-9, 2016

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Joanne, Here is the info on SLC. It's on AzoresGenWeb and another, you can
just click on the shortcuts Cheri made.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> The Azores/Portuguese Genealogy Conference and Research Trip will be held
> in Salt Lake City, Utah at the Plaza Hotel, right next door to the Family
> History Library. This event will take place on Tuesday, September 6 through
> Friday, September 9th (Yes, Monday, Sept. 5th is Labor Day in America and
> many of us will be flying on that day).
>
> We welcome those researching Madeira, Cape Verde, and the continent too!
>
> Classes include vital records, censuses, "reading" Portuguese records, and
> more. We have classes in the computer lab for the CCA or ARM, CITCEM-GHP
> (formerly NEPS), and the newspaper database. Also included is a new class
> on unpublished manuscripts (Azores only).
>
> Other new classes include more DNA on Thursday, and Find A Grave and
> Thinking Like Sherlock Holmes on Friday.
>
> Every evening and most of the day on Friday will be spent assisting you
> personally, whether it's helping you with your genealogy, "reading" a
> record, or getting help with your DNA results.
>
> If you have other genealogist friends that would like to go to Salt Lake,
> but they do not research Portuguese, they can take advantage of our group
> rate on the hotel rooms of $87 a night (USD + taxes).
>
> For complete details, see the Azores GenWeb http://goo.gl/j3XpdL or the
> web page that was created for this event: http://goo.gl/GkxEV3
>
> (NOTE: In the middle of me typing this email, the Family History Library
> called. They are remodeling their computer labs so I had to change the
> agenda around. So right now, the timelines are wrong on both sites. Give
> them a few days to get the corrections posted).
>
> Hope to see you in Salt Lake!!!
> Cheri Mello & Rosemarie Capodicci
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha and Antonia da Conceicao Travassos b. abt 1872 Ajuda Bretanha

[Laura Flanagan]

So, my dna results are indicating these folks were my 1st or 2nd great 
grandparents!  Fantastic lead, but I am having trouble identifying 
descendants.  Does anyone have this couple in their lines?  Descendant 
information would be greatly appreciated!

Joao Carvalho b. 11 May 1874 Ajuda Bretanha, son of Francisco Carvalho and 
Francisca Thomasia
(maternal grandparents:  Manuel Medeiros Grota and Maria Francisca / 
paternal grandparents:  Manuel Carvalho and Maria Rosa)

married in Ajuda Bretanha on 6 Sep 1897 to

Antonia da Conceicao Travassos, daughter of Luis Travassos b. 26 Feb 1833 
Ajuda Bretanha and Francisca de Jesus b. abt 1835.  
(maternal grandparents:  Joao de Balhao (spelling?) and Maria Jacintha / 
paternal grandparents: Manuel Travassos and Maria Joaquina Carvalho)

Joao and Antonia had the following children, all born in Ajuda Bretanha, 
(there are likely more born bet 1912 and 1920 that I have not yet found):

Manuel, b. 21 Jun 1898 
Maria, b. 15 Sep 1900
Anibal, b. 5 Apr 1902
Cecilia b. 11 Nov 1908, married Luis Arruda in Santa Clara, Ponta Delgada, 
on 3 Apr 1955
Luis Carvalho, 14 Mar 1912, married someone in Bretanha on 14 Nov 1953


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