Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Cheri Mello]

The church secretary just told me to me to put the request in an email and
she would get back to me. I sent the email on Monday. I'll wait and see
what I get back.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:29 PM,  wrote:

> Celest,
>
> I  am leaving tomorrow for New Bedford for a funeral at Mount Carmel
> Church.  F
>
> Please send me details of all that you need and I will try to get it for
> you.
>
> Maria Moore
>
> --
> *From: *"'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy" 
> *To: *"azores" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:13:56 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel
> churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts
>
>
> Thanks, Joanne, for the explanation.  I will have to wait to see if I can
> visit St. John's and ask in person for the information.  Living across the
> country from them makes it a little difficult.
> Celeste
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> 
> On Tue, 1/24/17, Joanne Mercier  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel
> churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts
>  To: azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 5:34 PM
>
>  I’m sorry you
>  had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell me that
>  particular rectory is a bit of a mess personnel-wise so
>  I’m not sure they’d go the extra mile to look in the
>  files. Parishes need more encouragement like what we’re
>  doing in the Archdiocese of Boston to get them to give us
>  genealogists a good helping hand.
>
>  On January 23, 2017 at
>  5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy (azores@googlegroups.com
> )
>  wrote: Hope your
>  experience is better than mine, Cheri.  Today I received the
>  letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI.  Not
>  a response, really, the original paper letter I wrote to
>  them.  At the top of the letter I send was written,
>  "Just says "notice sent" Both Parties were
>  born in Azores."
>
>
>
>  Any suggestions that can give me a more
>  accurate location of birth is appreciated.
>
>
>
>  Celeste, researching "the elusive
>  Maria Cristo."
>
>
>
>  Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
>
>
>  
>
>  On Mon, 1/23/17, Cheri Mello 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John
>  the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford,
>  Massachusetts
>
>   To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>
>   Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 1:37 PM
>
>
>
>   I called this
>
>   morning, and the church secretary, Tammy,
>  said the St. John
>
>   books are there. She won't photocopy
>  or take a picture
>
>   of the book but will issue a paper
>  certificate. I told her
>
>   the certificate doesn't have a blank
>  for the
>
>   freguesia/village that the bride and groom
>  are from. She
>
>   said to state that in an email to her and
>  she'll add it
>
>   in. So now I play "wait and
>  see."
>
>   At least we have confirmation that the
>  books are there
>
>   as of January 2017.
>
>
>
>   Cheri Mello
>
>   Listowner, Azores-Gen
>
>   Researching: São Miguel island: Vila
>  Franca, Ponta Garca,
>
>   Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
>
>   Achada
>
>
>
>   On Sun, Jan 22, 2017
>
>   at 5:55 PM, Michael Gilfilian 
>
>   wrote:
>
>   I emailed them, to ask
>
>   about abaptism certificate for my great
>  uncle, within a
>
>   couple weeks I got a rrply back that it
>  was on its way. Sent
>
>   them a donation for their kindness and
>  time.
>
>   This was after the move to Mt. Carmel.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Mike
>
>   Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Fayal
>
>
>
>
>
>   Sent from BlueMail
>
>   On Jan 22, 2017, at
>
>   6:04pm, Cheri Mello 
>
>   wrote:
>
>
>
>I'll keep that in mind, but in the
>  meantime, I need to
>
>   know if anyone has gone there recently and
>  utilized the
>
>   books.  Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Cheri Mello
>
>
>
>   Listowner, Azores-Gen
>
>
>
>   Researching: São Miguel island: Vila
>  Franca, Ponta Garca,
>
>   Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
>  Achada
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:01 PM,
>  "E" Sharp
>
> 
>
>   wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Cheri,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If you don't need it anytime
>  soon, I will be back
>
>   there beginning August for Madeira
>  festival and I am going
>
>   Mt. Carmel for a St. John's marriage
>  record also.  I am
>
>   also going to the NB Vital Records for the
>  papers that were
>
>   actually filled out by bride and groom to
>  obtain license. I
>
>   believe they are not easily accessible so
>  I am hoping they
>
>   will humor me and try to find them.  I
>  have them on another
>
>   couple and they had even more info on them
>  (even though it
>
>   proved to be incorrect info!!??!!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  "E"

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[linda]

I believe it's most likely to mean a schoolmaster, but a native speaker 
would know best.


On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 7:13:30 PM UTC-8, Joanne wrote:
>
> Would a master be a teacher or could it be some other profession? This 
> really has me curious.
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> On January 24, 2017 at 10:00:21 PM, Diane George (digeo...@hotmail.com 
> ) wrote:
>
> The word in front of the father’s name looks “Mestre” or Master.
>
>  
>
> Diane George
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:27 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 
> 1789 Capelas
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
>  
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it 
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry 
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t 
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that 
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen 
> before? 
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[danandmaria]

Celest, 

I am leaving tomorrow for New Bedford for a funeral at Mount Carmel Church. F 

Please send me details of all that you need and I will try to get it for you. 

Maria Moore 

- Original Message -

From: "'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy"  
To: "azores"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:13:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 


Thanks, Joanne, for the explanation. I will have to wait to see if I can visit 
St. John's and ask in person for the information. Living across the country 
from them makes it a little difficult. 
Celeste 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 

 
On Tue, 1/24/17, Joanne Mercier  wrote: 

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in 
New Bedford, Massachusetts 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 5:34 PM 

I’m sorry you 
had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell me that 
particular rectory is a bit of a mess personnel-wise so 
I’m not sure they’d go the extra mile to look in the 
files. Parishes need more encouragement like what we’re 
doing in the Archdiocese of Boston to get them to give us 
genealogists a good helping hand. 

On January 23, 2017 at 
5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy (azores@googlegroups.com) 
wrote: Hope your 
experience is better than mine, Cheri. Today I received the 
letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI. Not 
a response, really, the original paper letter I wrote to 
them. At the top of the letter I send was written, 
"Just says "notice sent" Both Parties were 
born in Azores." 



Any suggestions that can give me a more 
accurate location of birth is appreciated. 



Celeste, researching "the elusive 
Maria Cristo." 



Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com 



 

On Mon, 1/23/17, Cheri Mello  
wrote: 



Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John 
the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts 

To: "Azores Genealogy"  

Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 1:37 PM 



I called this 

morning, and the church secretary, Tammy, 
said the St. John 

books are there. She won't photocopy 
or take a picture 

of the book but will issue a paper 
certificate. I told her 

the certificate doesn't have a blank 
for the 

freguesia/village that the bride and groom 
are from. She 

said to state that in an email to her and 
she'll add it 

in. So now I play "wait and 
see." 

At least we have confirmation that the 
books are there 

as of January 2017. 



Cheri Mello 

Listowner, Azores-Gen 

Researching: São Miguel island: Vila 
Franca, Ponta Garca, 

Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 

Achada 



On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 

at 5:55 PM, Michael Gilfilian  

wrote: 

I emailed them, to ask 

about abaptism certificate for my great 
uncle, within a 

couple weeks I got a rrply back that it 
was on its way. Sent 

them a donation for their kindness and 
time. 

This was after the move to Mt. Carmel. 





Mike 

Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Fayal 





Sent from BlueMail 

On Jan 22, 2017, at 

6:04pm, Cheri Mello  

wrote: 



I'll keep that in mind, but in the 
meantime, I need to 

know if anyone has gone there recently and 
utilized the 

books. Thanks! 





















Cheri Mello 



Listowner, Azores-Gen 



Researching: São Miguel island: Vila 
Franca, Ponta Garca, 

Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 















On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:01 PM, 
"E" Sharp 

 

wrote: 











Cheri, 













If you don't need it anytime 
soon, I will be back 

there beginning August for Madeira 
festival and I am going 

Mt. Carmel for a St. John's marriage 
record also. I am 

also going to the NB Vital Records for the 
papers that were 

actually filled out by bride and groom to 
obtain license. I 

believe they are not easily accessible so 
I am hoping they 

will humor me and try to find them. I 
have them on another 

couple and they had even more info on them 
(even though it 

proved to be incorrect info!!??!!) 













"E". 

















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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Cheri Mello]

Could be a musical director too.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:13 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> Would a master be a teacher or could it be some other profession? This
> really has me curious.
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> On January 24, 2017 at 10:00:21 PM, Diane George (digeorg...@hotmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> The word in front of the father’s name looks “Mestre” or Master.
>
>
>
> Diane George
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Joanne Mercier
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:27 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism
> 1789 Capelas
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
>
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
> before?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks, Joanne, for the explanation.  I will have to wait to see if I can visit 
St. John's and ask in person for the information.  Living across the country 
from them makes it a little difficult.
Celeste
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Tue, 1/24/17, Joanne Mercier  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches 
in New Bedford, Massachusetts
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 5:34 PM
 
 I’m sorry you
 had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell me that
 particular rectory is a bit of a mess personnel-wise so
 I’m not sure they’d go the extra mile to look in the
 files. Parishes need more encouragement like what we’re
 doing in the Archdiocese of Boston to get them to give us
 genealogists a good helping hand. 
 
 On January 23, 2017 at
 5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy (azores@googlegroups.com)
 wrote: Hope your
 experience is better than mine, Cheri.  Today I received the
 letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI.  Not
 a response, really, the original paper letter I wrote to
 them.  At the top of the letter I send was written,
 "Just says "notice sent" Both Parties were
 born in Azores."   
 
 
 
 Any suggestions that can give me a more
 accurate location of birth is appreciated.
 
 
 
 Celeste, researching "the elusive
 Maria Cristo."
 
 
 
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 1/23/17, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John
 the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford,
 Massachusetts
 
  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 
  Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 1:37 PM
 
   
 
  I called this
 
  morning, and the church secretary, Tammy,
 said the St. John
 
  books are there. She won't photocopy
 or take a picture
 
  of the book but will issue a paper
 certificate. I told her
 
  the certificate doesn't have a blank
 for the
 
  freguesia/village that the bride and groom
 are from. She
 
  said to state that in an email to her and
 she'll add it
 
  in. So now I play "wait and
 see."  
 
  At least we have confirmation that the
 books are there
 
  as of January 2017.
 
   
 
  Cheri Mello
 
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
 
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila
 Franca, Ponta Garca,
 
  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
 
  Achada
 
   
 
  On Sun, Jan 22, 2017
 
  at 5:55 PM, Michael Gilfilian 
 
  wrote:
 
  I emailed them, to ask
 
  about abaptism certificate for my great
 uncle, within a
 
  couple weeks I got a rrply back that it
 was on its way. Sent
 
  them a donation for their kindness and
 time.
 
  This was after the move to Mt. Carmel.
 
   
 
   
 
  Mike
 
  Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Fayal
 
   
 
   
 
  Sent from BlueMail  
 
  On Jan 22, 2017, at
 
  6:04pm, Cheri Mello 
 
  wrote:
 
   
 
   I'll keep that in mind, but in the
 meantime, I need to
 
  know if anyone has gone there recently and
 utilized the
 
  books.  Thanks!
 

 
   
 
   
 
   
 

 
   
 

 
 
 
  
 
   
 
   Cheri Mello
 

 
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
 

 
  Researching: São Miguel island: Vila
 Franca, Ponta Garca,
 
  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
 Achada
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
 
 

 
   
 

 
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:01 PM,
 "E" Sharp  
 

 
  wrote:
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
   Cheri,
 
   
 
   
 

 
   
 
   
 
   
 
   If you don't need it anytime
 soon, I will be back
 
  there beginning August for Madeira
 festival and I am going
 
  Mt. Carmel for a St. John's marriage
 record also.  I am
 
  also going to the NB Vital Records for the
 papers that were
 
  actually filled out by bride and groom to
 obtain license. I
 
  believe they are not easily accessible so
 I am hoping they
 
  will humor me and try to find them.  I
 have them on another
 
  couple and they had even more info on them
 (even though it
 
  proved to be incorrect info!!??!!)
 
   
 
   
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
 
 
 "E".  
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Joanne Mercier]

Would a master be a teacher or could it be some other profession? This
really has me curious.

Thanks for all the help.

On January 24, 2017 at 10:00:21 PM, Diane George (digeorg...@hotmail.com)
wrote:

The word in front of the father’s name looks “Mestre” or Master.



Diane George



*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joanne Mercier
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:27 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789
Capelas



http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html



Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
before?



Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Diane George]

The word in front of the father’s name looks “Mestre” or Master.

Diane George

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joanne Mercier
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:27 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html

Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it could be 
her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry and the date 
doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t seem to contain the 
grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that a title before the 
father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen before?

Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
Joanne Grota Mercier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[linda]

I see the father's title as being "Mestre" , which might be "master" or 
teacher. I'm away from home, so can't double check now but will try to confirm 
when I get back.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Joanne Mercier]

We’re trying to decipher if the margin notes in the original image post are
regarding her marriage to Simão de Souza. The margin date is 1809 but the
marriage entry is 1811, unless I didn’t get that date correct. That’s why I
included it in the thread to get a second opinion.


On January 24, 2017 at 9:21:23 PM, Cheri Mello (gfsche...@gmail.com) wrote:

Title of thread: Maria de Lima baptism. Image posted: A marriage.
I'm confused.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> No, unless I got it wrong. Here’s the marriage entry —>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836_item1/P105.html
>
>
>
> On January 24, 2017 at 8:43:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
> read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
> dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
>> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
>> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
>> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
>> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
>> before?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>> Joanne Grota Mercier
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Cheri Mello]

Title of thread: Maria de Lima baptism. Image posted: A marriage.
I'm confused.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> No, unless I got it wrong. Here’s the marriage entry —>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836_item1/P105.html
>
>
>
> On January 24, 2017 at 8:43:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
> read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
> dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>>
>> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
>> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
>> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
>> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
>> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
>> before?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
>> Joanne Grota Mercier
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Joanne Mercier]

No, unless I got it wrong. Here’s the marriage entry —>
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-C-1792-1836_item1/P105.html



On January 24, 2017 at 8:43:53 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
> before?
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
> Joanne Grota Mercier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[mances]

Current spelling:
"Passei certidão deste assento a Simão de Sousa a 10 de setembro de 1809 - 
Cura Meireles"

Manoel

Em terça-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2017 23:27:26 UTC-2, Joanne escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it 
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry 
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t 
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that 
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen 
> before? 
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Did they marry in 1809?? If so, that is probably the date the "Bans" were
read, usually about 3 weeks before the actual marriage. The word before the
dad's name could be a title but I can't seem to read it! Sorry

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
> before?
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
> Joanne Grota Mercier
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts

[Joanne Mercier]

I’m sorry you had that experience, Celeste. My sources tell me that
particular rectory is a bit of a mess personnel-wise so I’m not sure they’d
go the extra mile to look in the files. Parishes need more encouragement
like what we’re doing in the Archdiocese of Boston to get them to give us
genealogists a good helping hand.


On January 23, 2017 at 5:33:58 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy (
azores@googlegroups.com) wrote:

Hope your experience is better than mine, Cheri. Today I received the
letter I wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI. Not a response, really,
the original paper letter I wrote to them. At the top of the letter I send
was written, "Just says "notice sent" Both Parties were born in Azores."

Any suggestions that can give me a more accurate location of birth is
appreciated.

Celeste, researching "the elusive Maria Cristo."

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Mon, 1/23/17, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John the Baptist & Mount Carmel
churches in New Bedford, Massachusetts
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Monday, January 23, 2017, 1:37 PM

I called this
morning, and the church secretary, Tammy, said the St. John
books are there. She won't photocopy or take a picture
of the book but will issue a paper certificate. I told her
the certificate doesn't have a blank for the
freguesia/village that the bride and groom are from. She
said to state that in an email to her and she'll add it
in. So now I play "wait and see."
At least we have confirmation that the books are there
as of January 2017.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,
Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017
at 5:55 PM, Michael Gilfilian 
wrote:
I emailed them, to ask
about abaptism certificate for my great uncle, within a
couple weeks I got a rrply back that it was on its way. Sent
them a donation for their kindness and time.
This was after the move to Mt. Carmel.


Mike
Piedade, Pico, Cedros, Fayal


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On Jan 22, 2017, at
6:04pm, Cheri Mello 
wrote:

I'll keep that in mind, but in the meantime, I need to
know if anyone has gone there recently and utilized the
books.  Thanks!










Cheri Mello

Listowner, Azores-Gen

Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,
Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada







On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:01 PM, "E" Sharp

wrote:





Cheri,






If you don't need it anytime soon, I will be back
there beginning August for Madeira festival and I am going
Mt. Carmel for a St. John's marriage record also.  I am
also going to the NB Vital Records for the papers that were
actually filled out by bride and groom to obtain license. I
believe they are not easily accessible so I am hoping they
will humor me and try to find them.  I have them on another
couple and they had even more info on them (even though it
proved to be incorrect info!!??!!)






"E".








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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Joanne Mercier]

Sorry - top left.


On January 24, 2017 at 8:31:57 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci (rcap...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Which document?

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Joanne Mercier 
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
> before?
>
> Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Which document?

Rosemarie
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html
>
> Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
> could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
> and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
> seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
> a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
> before?
>
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> Joanne Grota Mercier
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Maria de Lima Baptism 1789 Capelas

[Joanne Mercier]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802/SMG-PD-CAPELAS-B-1788-1802_item1/P14.html

Looking for help with what is written in the margin - it looks like it
could be her wedding to Simão de Souza but I’ve found that register entry
and the date doesn’t look like it would match. Also, these entries don’t
seem to contain the grandparents’ info - is that correct? Finally, is that
a title before the father’s first name or another name I’ve never seen
before?

Thanks in advance for the help! (as usual)
Joanne Grota Mercier

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santa Barbara, Santa Maria birth: Help with year please

[Ângela Loura]

I think Tish has this line

2017-01-21 2:05 GMT+00:00 linda :

> Oh wait! it's on the next page:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P8.html
>
> back in a few
>
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 6:04:10 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> can you check the link, please?  The date I see on the left bottom record
>> is "honze dias do mes do Fevreiro do Anno de mil sete sentos e vinte e
>> seis" , and the parents don't seem to match what you have either.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 11:14:49 AM UTC-8, apor...@yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all;  Left side, bottom one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>>> SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1725-1745_item1/P7.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve got that this is the birth of Joaquim son of Alferes Joam de
>>> Figueiredo and his wife, Maria de Braga.  I think I see the date of birth
>>> as:  15 March 1726 but; I’m not sure and would like some input from you on
>>> it.  I’ve looked before and after but; those are just as hard for me to
>>> deciper.  Also, I can’t tell what happened April 12, 1830 (Over 100 years
>>> later?)  In the side margin.  Is it just another “certificate” or is it
>>> more specific.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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