Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[JR]

I don't think you will do better than this below:

 

*From:* GoshawkJM
*Date:* Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:01:28 EST

In a message dated 98-03-22 00:02:56 EST, you write:

<< MEDEIROS--- Nome de muito proveis razes toponmicas, foi contemporneo
e partidrio de Mestre de Avis um Rui Gonalves de Medeiros, que assumiu a
alcaidaria-mor de vora, depois dos tumultos que envolveram esta cidade no
incio da crise 1383-85. Dele descendem os mais Medeiros que se conhecem, um
ramo dos quais se fixou na ilha da Madeira, quando se iniciou a colonizao da
ilha. As suas armas so: de vermelho, cinco cabeas de guia de ouro, em aspa.
Timbre: uma guia de vermelho, sainte, estendida e armada de ouro.

Source: 
Page 248, Dicionrio Das Famlias Portuguesas, by D. Luiz de Lancastre e
Tavora (Marqus de Abrantes), Quetzal Editores, Lisboa, 1989

MEDEIROS--- a name most probably derived from a place name or of 
geographical
origin. Rui Goncalves de Medeiros was a peer and a supporter of the Master 
of
Avis. He was made the chief governing officer of the city of Evora after the
uprisings that enveloped the city during the beginnings of the Crisis of
1383-85. From Rui are descended many with that name, including a branch that
settled on the island of Madeira when it was first colonized. The coat-of-
arms: in the shield, there is a red background with five eagles' heads of
gold. The crest is a red eagle which extends itself and is rimmed in gold.


On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:30:09 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> One of the foremost authorities on the Medeiros name, at least in my 
> opinion, is this researcher, Decio Medeiros. His site his here: 
> https://sites.google.com/site/deciomedeiros/home/genealogia/medeiros
>
> If you google around you may also find some of his articles in English.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 10:39:02 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Here's some background information on the Azores region, its autonomy, 
>> and Day of the Azores: https://goo.gl/J7vF6N
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Al Gore, Former VP of USA

[Cheri Mello]

The 8 great-grandfather? I had to pull out my calculator. He's
0.0009765625% Azorean!
[image: Inline image 1]

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Nelia DiBiase 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Not sure if you're all aware but I just found out that Al Gore is of
> Azorean decent. 8th great grandfather was surname Medeiros from the Azores.
>
> You probably already knew...lol. I just found this out and was fascinated.
> For such a small group of islands Azorean descendants most certainly have
> had major impact in this great big world of ours.
>
> Nelia
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Al Gore, Former VP of USA

[Nelia DiBiase]

Hi all,

Not sure if you're all aware but I just found out that Al Gore is of
Azorean decent. 8th great grandfather was surname Medeiros from the Azores.

You probably already knew...lol. I just found this out and was fascinated.
For such a small group of islands Azorean descendants most certainly have
had major impact in this great big world of ours.

Nelia

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[JR]

One of the foremost authorities on the Medeiros name, at least in my 
opinion, is this researcher, Decio Medeiros. His site his here: 
https://sites.google.com/site/deciomedeiros/home/genealogia/medeiros

If you google around you may also find some of his articles in English.

JR

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 10:39:02 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Here's some background information on the Azores region, its autonomy, and 
> Day of the Azores: https://goo.gl/J7vF6N
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Shared CenitMorgan Project (for those who have DNA tested)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)

Blaine Bettinger, author and DNA blogger, is asking for submissions for the
Shared CentiMorgan Project.

It works like this: For the DNA matches you have identified as your cousins
(or the cousins you have recruited), you go to the link below and answer
the 8 questions.

It would be great if we could get as many people to contribute live data
for Blaine to work with for endogamous populations.

If I were filling it out and using my cousin, Altino Demelo, I'd answer the
questions, mark the relationship as endogamous, in the notes section state
that the relationship is 2C twice and 3C twice. Then I'd tell Altino NOT to
report it to Blaine (duplicate data).

Then I'd move on to my next match.

This is an ongoing thing, however Blaine is going to republish his findings
after June 30th. So submit your info before then to be included in this
round. And be sure to let your cousin know you submitted them.

The link is here to submit your info: https://goo.gl/oOpv3L

Any questions, just email me at gfscherim at gmail.com
Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Cheri Mello]

Here's some background information on the Azores region, its autonomy, and
Day of the Azores: https://goo.gl/J7vF6N

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Cheri Mello]

Google User dea.jo.scr...@gmail.com (You may consider getting yourself a
name, most of us use them and it makes communication much easier)  :)

The Azores islands are 9 islands west of Portugal. They are an autonomous
region of Portugal. The Madeira islands is another archipelago of only 2
inhabited islands, more southwest of Portugal. They too are an autonomous
region of Portugal. Madeiran wine does indeed come from Madeira. There's a
region on Terceira in the Azores that makes wine too (possibly Biscoitos -
somewhere around there).
Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Google User]

Isn't THAT The truth!

Medeiros comes from the terms Medeiro or Madeira  I know one has to do with
picking/husking (maize) corn or the area of picking maize, which would
typically suggest they were maize/corn farmers. However, Madeira is a
region and a form of wine, isn't it?

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Andrew M,
>
> However, most families really don't have a coat of arms or armorial. We
> were just a bunch of hard working peasants back then!
>
> Also, you are used to the American tradition of naming patterns and you
> only *think* your surname is Medeiros. It's not. My surname should have
> been Jacome when you go back far enough (where I ran out of records).
>
> Cheri Mello (could have been Cheri de Mello or Cheri Jacome)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[George Medeiros]

Andrew if you go to google and type in Medeiros surname you can see info on the 
origin of the Medeiros surname etc. My surname is also 
Medeiros.There is a town in Northern Portugal called Medeiros, Portugal.
I will look at my notes on the Medeiros surname and post it. 
 George Medeiros

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> On Jun 5, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Andrew Medeiros  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable resources, 
> either in print or online, that provide detailed information about the 
> history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I wanted to look 
> up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning and where it 
> came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Andrew
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Some info I posted a few years ago that I found when doing research on Medeiros Surname .....George Medeiros

[George Medeiros]

[AZORES-Genealogy] First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui 
Goncalves de Medeiros who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief 
of Evora. The Medeiros Family seems to be a place of de Medeiros in the Parish 
of Vila Cha in the municipality of Montalegre, in the Vila Real District in the 
Province of Tras-os-Montes.The crater is 5km from the county seat and is 16 km 
from the border with Spain on the edge of the Barroso Mountains. 
(too old to reply)
George Medeiros 
2 years ago
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First person known to have surname " Medeiros " was Rui Goncalves de Medeiros 
who lived in Evora, Portugal. He was Commander in Chief of Evora. The Medeiros 
Family seems to be a place of de Medeiros in the Parish of Vila Cha in the 
municipality of Montalegre, in the Vila Real District in the Province of 
Tras-os-Montes.The crater is 5km from the county seat and is 16 km from the 
border with Spain on the edge of the Barroso Mountains.
These places are included in the Parish of Vila Cha :
1. Castanheira
2. Firvidas
3. Gralhos
4. Medeiros
5. Peirezes
6. Penedones
7. Sao Vicente
8. Travarsos Tea
9. Trogueda

In the 15th century one branch of the Medeiros family leaving Ponte de Lima set 
up
in the Algarve and another branch went to the island of Sao Miguel in the 
Azores.In 1420-1450 James Guill list several family heads in the Madeira 
archipelago.One person mentioned is Rui Vaz de Medeiros a native of Ponte de 
Lima in the Guimarae's region who was a contemporary of Goncalves de Medeiros. 
In 1474 Rui Vaz went to Madeira during the first colonization of the island. He 
married D. Ana ( or Mecia) Mendonca Goncalves who was the daughter of Jorge de 
Mendonca .This couple moved with their family to Sao Miguel,Azores and had a 
lot land at the end of Lagoa.They arrived in Sao Miguel with 3rd Captain Don 
Rui Goncalves of Camara.
Rui Vaz de Medeiros and D. Ana Goncalves children were:
1. Vasco de Medeiros ( Rui Vaz)
2.Rafael de Medeiros
3. Joao Vaz de Medeiros
4. Jordan Vaz de Medeiros
5. White Days Medeiros
6. Guiomar Ruiz de Medeiros
7. Maria de Medeiros

Rui Vaz de Medeiros known as Vasco de Medeiros settled in the town of Lagoa or 
in Alagoa Village on Sao Miguel ,Azores. He was married to Catherine Bridge the 
daughter of Fernando Rodrigues a noble of Lagoa. Many Azoreans with the 
Medeiros surname are descendents of this Vasco de Medeiros.

Vasco's siblings :
1. Rafael married the daughter of Antonio Roiz Carneiro the Governor
of Santa Maria Island.
2. Joao married Isabel Frias
3. Jordan married Vila Franca the daughter of Francisco Afonso de Paiva
4. White married Diogo Afonso da Costa Cogombreiro
5. Guiomar married Anes Lope de Araujo
6. Maria de Medeiros ( was married 3 times )

Doing some research I found this information in Portuguese. I tried to write it 
more clearly for myself. Does anyone in the group have more accurate 
information on this history of the Medeiros surname or any corrections for me 
on what I have written here as to accuracy ?
George M. ( Pereira ) Medeiros Jr.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Cheri Mello]

I'm not finding it in World Cat and I found only 4 hits on the Internet and
it seems like he's announcing the book. John R, if you can give me ordering
info, I can also request Salt Lake obtain a copy.  Cheri

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Tish M  wrote:

> John,
> I tried finding it either in a library or for sale. I had no luck. Do you
> have any ideas where the book can be aquired?
> Tish Meals
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I highly recommend Melo Bento, Carlos Eduardo. *Origens Geográficas dos
>> Açores*, Criativaçores, Ponta Delgada: 2015. It gives you not only
>> places of origin but also the first person of the particular family name to
>> come to the Azores.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 6:08 PM, Google User 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> You should google that exact phrase
>> Surname and their origin. Several sites will come up and aid you in your
>> search.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable
>> resources, either in print or online, that provide detailed information
>> about the history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I
>> wanted to look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning
>> and where it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> Andrew
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[Cheri Mello]

Bill S,

I've seen d' Eiro (probably in a post somewhere) but I've never seen it in
my personal research on Sao Miguel. I've never seen the name Picanço on the
island of Sao Miguel either.  Cheri

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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Donald Vasconcelos 
wrote:

> Bill Seidler,
> My cousin has Eiro family members from Graciosa, and his great
> grandfather, my grand uncle was Manuel Picanso (var.) born in Luz, Graciosa
> with 'pai incognito'.
> I will be in Graciosa this summer for 4-5 days.
> Don Vasconcelos
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 5, 2017, at 3:39 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks JR and Cheri.  Now it obviously looks like Lobam even so heavily
> sneezed upon.  Hindsight after someone reads it for you is wonderful.  I
> think Cheri is right that I will have to find another record to get the
> name under the watermark, but both of JR's suggestions look possible.  The
> name de Eiro I was able to get by looking around Graciosa records which I
> found several instances (sometimes spelled as "Deiro or d' Eiro).  Is this
> name specificly associated with Graciosa?  I am fairly new to Graciosa
> research where my wife's paternal line has taken me.
>
> Another name I have seen a lot that I don't remember seeing on other
> islands I have researched is Picanço.  I was already familiar with this
> name because it was my landlord's name when I rented a house on Terceira
> when I was stationed there in the '80s.  My landlord's family had come to
> Terceira from Graciosa.  Is this another name specific (or at least most
> commonly associated with) Graciosa?
>
> Bill Seidler
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote:
>
>> Might even be Mendonca de *Sarmento,* which is a known surname.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:37:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>>
>>> Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher
>>> Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de
>>> Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I
>>> know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but
>>> sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was
>>> intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would
>>> be my best guess.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro."
 Decir is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.

 Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse
 the CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to
 get it I think.

 Cheri

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 On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:

> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
> 
>
> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de
> sua mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
>
> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua
> mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)
>
> Bill Seidler
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Tish M]

John,
I tried finding it either in a library or for sale. I had no luck. Do you
have any ideas where the book can be aquired?
Tish Meals

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I highly recommend Melo Bento, Carlos Eduardo. *Origens Geográficas dos
> Açores*, Criativaçores, Ponta Delgada: 2015. It gives you not only places
> of origin but also the first person of the particular family name to come
> to the Azores.
>
> John
>
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 6:08 PM, Google User 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> You should google that exact phrase
> Surname and their origin. Several sites will come up and aid you in your
> search.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros 
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable
> resources, either in print or online, that provide detailed information
> about the history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I
> wanted to look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning
> and where it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Andrew
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[Donald Vasconcelos]

Bill Seidler, 
My cousin has Eiro family members from Graciosa, and his great grandfather, my 
grand uncle was Manuel Picanso (var.) born in Luz, Graciosa with 'pai 
incognito'.
I will be in Graciosa this summer for 4-5 days.
Don Vasconcelos

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> On Jun 5, 2017, at 3:39 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks JR and Cheri.  Now it obviously looks like Lobam even so heavily 
> sneezed upon.  Hindsight after someone reads it for you is wonderful.  I 
> think Cheri is right that I will have to find another record to get the name 
> under the watermark, but both of JR's suggestions look possible.  The name de 
> Eiro I was able to get by looking around Graciosa records which I found 
> several instances (sometimes spelled as "Deiro or d' Eiro).  Is this name 
> specificly associated with Graciosa?  I am fairly new to Graciosa research 
> where my wife's paternal line has taken me. 
> 
> Another name I have seen a lot that I don't remember seeing on other islands 
> I have researched is Picanço.  I was already familiar with this name because 
> it was my landlord's name when I rented a house on Terceira when I was 
> stationed there in the '80s.  My landlord's family had come to Terceira from 
> Graciosa.  Is this another name specific (or at least most commonly 
> associated with) Graciosa?
> 
> Bill Seidler
> 
>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote:
>> Might even be Mendonca de Sarmento, which is a known surname.
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:37:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>> Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher 
>>> Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de 
>>> Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I 
>>> know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but 
>>> sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was 
>>> intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would 
>>> be my best guess.
>>> 
>>> JR 
>>> 
 On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
 Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir 
 is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.
 
 Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the 
 CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get 
 it I think.
 
 Cheri
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
 Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:
> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html
> 
> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde  e de sua 
> mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
> 
> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose  e de sua 
> mulher Maria de Mendonca  (behind the watermark)
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[Hughes Roselyn]

Hi Doreen,

Thomasia Rosa is my second great grand aunt.  I don't know if you need any
help, but I would be happy to assist you.  Feel free to email me directly.

Roselyn

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:53 AM,  wrote:

> This is huge. I finally have parents for Thomasia Rosa, wife of Jose
> Cardoso Jaques based on the first record that indicates that the maternal
> aunt and uncle are the godparents. Thanks. Doreen
>
>
>
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>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *Monday, June 5, 2017 10:46 AM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from
> Altares 1856
>
>
>
> I've never seen Terceira abbreviated before. That was funny.
>
> Gods: Andre Coelho Machado and his sister Maria Rosa, uncle/aunt paternal
> of Jose Coelho Machado Cotta
>
> The Portuguese Word List has tio/tia on it: https://goo.gl/juMh6k
>
> Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:
>
> Left side, middle of he page.
>
> Here’s another one with that same type of information.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P198.html
>
> Location. Left side, middle of the page
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
> *Sent: *Monday, June 5, 2017 10:03 AM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from
> Altares 1856
>
>
>
> *Which record on the page are you referring to?*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *doreencaetano
> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 12:39 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares
> 1856
>
>
>
> There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the
> godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with
> Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html
>
> Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that
> has something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship
> to the to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

I highly recommend Melo Bento, Carlos Eduardo. Origens Geográficas dos Açores, 
Criativaçores, Ponta Delgada: 2015. It gives you not only places of origin but 
also the first person of the particular family name to come to the Azores.
John
 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 6:08 PM, Google User  
wrote:
 

 Hi Andrew, 
You should google that exact phrase Surname and their origin. Several sites 
will come up and aid you in your search. 

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros  wrote:

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable resources, 
either in print or online, that provide detailed information about the history 
of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I wanted to look up the 
history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning and where it came from.  
However, I am having a difficult time doing so.  Any suggestions?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[bsei2816]

Thanks JR and Cheri.  Now it obviously looks like Lobam even so heavily 
sneezed upon.  Hindsight after someone reads it for you is wonderful.  I 
think Cheri is right that I will have to find another record to get the 
name under the watermark, but both of JR's suggestions look possible.  The 
name de Eiro I was able to get by looking around Graciosa records which I 
found several instances (sometimes spelled as "Deiro or d' Eiro).  Is this 
name specificly associated with Graciosa?  I am fairly new to Graciosa 
research where my wife's paternal line has taken me.  

Another name I have seen a lot that I don't remember seeing on other 
islands I have researched is Picanço.  I was already familiar with this 
name because it was my landlord's name when I rented a house on Terceira 
when I was stationed there in the '80s.  My landlord's family had come to 
Terceira from Graciosa.  Is this another name specific (or at least most 
commonly associated with) Graciosa?

Bill Seidler

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:40:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote:

> Might even be Mendonca de *Sarmento,* which is a known surname.
>
> JR
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:37:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>>
>> Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher 
>> Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de 
>> Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I 
>> know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but 
>> sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was 
>> intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would 
>> be my best guess.
>>
>> JR 
>>
>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir 
>>> is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.
>>>
>>> Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the 
>>> CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it 
>>> I think.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)


 *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
  
 

 Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de 
 sua mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos

 Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua 
 mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Google User]

Hi Andrew,

You should google that exact phrase
Surname and their origin. Several sites will come up and aid you in your
search.


On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM Andrew Medeiros 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable
> resources, either in print or online, that provide detailed information
> about the history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I
> wanted to look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning
> and where it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Andrew
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Cheri Mello]

Andrew M,

However, most families really don't have a coat of arms or armorial. We
were just a bunch of hard working peasants back then!

Also, you are used to the American tradition of naming patterns and you
only *think* your surname is Medeiros. It's not. My surname should have
been Jacome when you go back far enough (where I ran out of records).

Cheri Mello (could have been Cheri de Mello or Cheri Jacome)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Andrew,
There is a book called *Armorial Lusitano *which gives the origins of the
Portuguese names, not necessaryily Azorean. The book is all in Portuguese
but has the coats of arms and a brief history of the names. I bought the
book several years ago from a book dealer in Lisbon.  This is what is on
the bottom of the box that holds the book:

Representacoes Zairol, Lda.
Rue Latino Coelho, 8-5. (degree sign) Dto.
1000 Lisboa
telefs. 55 37 86- 52 36 34




Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Andrew Medeiros 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable
> resources, either in print or online, that provide detailed information
> about the history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I
> wanted to look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning
> and where it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Andrew
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[AZORES-Genealogy] History of Azorean Surames Resources

[Andrew Medeiros]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone can tell me if there are any reputable resources, 
either in print or online, that provide detailed information about the 
history of Azorean surnames and their origins.  For example, I wanted to 
look up the history of my last name Medeiros, such as its meaning and where 
it came from.  However, I am having a difficult time doing so.  Any 
suggestions?

Many Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[JR]

Might even be Mendonca de *Sarmento,* which is a known surname.

JR

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:37:08 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher 
> Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de 
> Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I 
> know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but 
> sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was 
> intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would 
> be my best guess.
>
> JR 
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir 
>> is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.
>>
>> Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the 
>> CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it 
>> I think.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
>>>
>>>
>>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de 
>>> sua mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
>>>
>>> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua 
>>> mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)
>>>
>>> Bill Seidler
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[JR]

Simao Dionizio  de Conde filho de Antonio de Conde de Eiro e sua mulher 
Maria da Conceicam ja defuntos and Antonia? or Caetana? do Rozario filha de 
Antonio Joze Labam (Labao) e sua mulher Maria de Mendonca de Sacramento? I 
know that Antonia and Caetana do not exactly match appearance wise, but 
sometimes the handwriting is just cramped or fixed on the fly and what was 
intended comes across as a mix of jumble and part regular names. That would 
be my best guess.

JR 

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir 
> is "to say." It doesn't make sense there.
>
> Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the 
> CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it 
> I think.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
>>  
>> 
>>
>> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de 
>> sua mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
>>
>> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua 
>> mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)
>>
>> Bill Seidler
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[doreencaetano]

This is huge. I finally have parents for Thomasia Rosa, wife of Jose Cardoso 
Jaques based on the first record that indicates that the maternal aunt and 
uncle are the godparents. Thanks. Doreen

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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 10:46 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

I've never seen Terceira abbreviated before. That was funny.
Gods: Andre Coelho Machado and his sister Maria Rosa, uncle/aunt paternal of 
Jose Coelho Machado Cotta
The Portuguese Word List has tio/tia on it: https://goo.gl/juMh6k
Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:
Left side, middle of he page. 
Here’s another one with that same type of information. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P198.html
Location. Left side, middle of the page
 
 
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From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 10:03 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856
 
Which record on the page are you referring to?
 
Rick
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaetano
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856
 
There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the 
godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with 
Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html
Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that has 
something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship to the 
to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[Cheri Mello]

I've never seen Terceira abbreviated before. That was funny.

Gods: Andre Coelho Machado and his sister Maria Rosa, uncle/aunt paternal
of Jose Coelho Machado Cotta

The Portuguese Word List has tio/tia on it: https://goo.gl/juMh6k

Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:

> Left side, middle of he page.
>
> Here’s another one with that same type of information.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P198.html
>
> Location. Left side, middle of the page
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
> *Sent: *Monday, June 5, 2017 10:03 AM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from
> Altares 1856
>
>
>
> *Which record on the page are you referring to?*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *doreencaetano
> *Sent:* Monday, June 5, 2017 12:39 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares
> 1856
>
>
>
> There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the
> godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with
> Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html
>
> Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that
> has something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship
> to the to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[doreencaetano]

Left side, middle of he page. 
Here’s another one with that same type of information. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P198.html
Location. Left side, middle of the page


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 10:03 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

Which record on the page are you referring to?

Rick

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaetano
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the 
godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with 
Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html
Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that has 
something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship to the 
to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[Cheri Mello]

Groom's dad: Looks like it says "de ciro" which might be "deciro." Decir is
"to say." It doesn't make sense there.

Bride's parents: Umm, he sneezed on the dad's name and you can curse the
CCA for the watermark? That one you will have to pull her baptism to get it
I think.

Cheri

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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 AM,  wrote:

> Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
> 
>
> Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de sua
> mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos
>
> Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua
> mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)
>
> Bill Seidler
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Which record on the page are you referring to?

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
doreencaetano
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

 

There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the 
godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with 
Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html

Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that has 
something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship to the 
to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading baptism record from Altares 1856

[doreencaetano]

There is something extra being said on this records in regards to the 
godparents Andre Coelho Machado and Maria Rosa. It has something to do with 
Jose Coelho Cotta Machado and Francisca Rosa.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P53.html
Can someone help me read this record. I have been several like this that 
has something extra about godparents. I believe it is either a relationship 
to the to the child or the relationship of the godparent. Thanks

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe marriage 1783 Simam Dionizio and Antonio de Rosario

[bsei2816]

Could I get some help some names on this one (Left side)

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-C-1761-1797_item1/P113.html*
 


Groom's parents: (Line 15 going to 16th) Antonio de Conde ** e de sua 
mulher Maria da Conceição, ja defuntos

Bride's parents: (Line 17 going to 18th) Antonio Jose ** e de sua 
mulher Maria de Mendonca ** (behind the watermark)

Bill Seidler

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