[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jose Vieira Lourenco of Altares and Raminho, Terceira (?-1903)
Well it appears I have an answer to part of my question. While looking through the obits. from Altares I ran across Jose Vieira Lourenco's sister's death record and in that record listed the mother as Isabel de Jesus daughter of Jose Vieira Lourenco and Catharina Bernarda. Also lets me know that Jose got his name from his maternal grandfather not his father. Also gave a mark as to where to look for Jose birth record, because remember the record listed for 1849 is a request for his record but if could not be found and appearing with him was a Manuel Vieira Lourenco his godfather. The search continues... On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote: > > I'm working of a tree for a cousin. Jose Vieira Lourenco and Gertrude > Marianna are her 1st great grandparents. Jose is the child of Isabel de > Jesus and pai unknown. I only have a few records that have Jose listed. and > less that list his mother Isabel de Jesus. I will list those below. Any > info about Isabel's family or leads as to Jose' father would be appreciated. > > I have good leads on Marianna's lines until I reach her great grandparents > Roque Coelho Lourenco and Maria Josefa of Altares. I think the couple was > married around 1770. Does any one have any information on this couple? They > had a child named Rosa Bernarda. > > Jose Vieira Lourenco > Request for Baptism Record: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1842-1852_item1/P157.html > > bottom left side > Marriage Record: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1843-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1843-1860_item1/P89.html > > on the left side > Death Record: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P101.html > > record #3 on right side > His children records > Maria's Birth: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1852-1860_item1/P45.html > > top of right side > Balbina's Birth: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P101.html > > on left side, do not understand writing in the margin. > Balbina's Marriage Record: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899/TER-AH-RAMINHO-C-1890-1899_item1/P47.html > > on the bottom left side > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
See Elaine's link. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > OMG. How would I find out where would I look > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > Here is a great site that explains it all. > > https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/ > 2014/spring/citizenship.pdf > > "E" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
OMG. How would I find out where would I look Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > Here is a great site that explains it all. > > https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf > > "E" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Pa means Papers were filed to become a citizen. He's not one yet. Na is Naturalized and he would be a citizen. Yes, he naturalized after 1920. His wife is her own person, no longer property of her man and she would have had to apply to be a citizen again. Others provided links regarding it. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Mary A Sylvia. Newport R I Nov 1892 > > Jose Silveira Santa Cedros, Fayal Dec 1889 > > Became citizen around 192??? > In 1930 census was citizen > ( now that I've blown this up I see it says Pa for citizenship. Is this > really a place? I've not been able to find his paperwork or date before > > Married July 1914 Newport R I > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You need to put dates. I can't follow. > 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. > 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. > > 3) Date & place they married. > 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > >> So now I'm wondering. >> I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. >> She was born in Newport RI >> Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather >> and he became a citizen >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an >> alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of >> Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he >> received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s >> certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came >> from the Department of Justice.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com >> ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM >> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization >> >> >> >> Wait, who got around to it in the 60's >> >> Do you mean that your mother was born here >> >> Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not >> automatically become citizen again??? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < >> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" >> (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in >> the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I >> think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. >> >> >> >> Susan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >> citizenship. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >> >> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >> wrote: >> >> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >> George >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Mary A Sylvia. Newport R I Nov 1892 Jose Silveira Santa Cedros, Fayal Dec 1889 Became citizen around 192??? In 1930 census was citizen ( now that I've blown this up I see it says Pa for citizenship. Is this really a place? I've not been able to find his paperwork or date before Married July 1914 Newport R I Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You need to put dates. I can't follow. > 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. > 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. > > 3) Date & place they married. > 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> So now I'm wondering. >> I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. >> She was born in Newport RI >> Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather and >> he became a citizen >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >>> wrote: >>> >>> My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an >>> alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of >>> Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he >>> received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s >>> certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came >>> from the Department of Justice. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> Liz Migliori >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM >>> To: azores@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization >>> >>> >>> >>> Wait, who got around to it in the 60's >>> >>> Do you mean that your mother was born here >>> >>> Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not >>> automatically become citizen again??? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >>> wrote: >>> >>> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she >>> told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the >>> 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I >>> think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. >>> >>> >>> >>> Susan >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> >>> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >>> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >>> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >>> citizenship. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >>> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >>> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >>> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >>> >>> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >>> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >>> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >>> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >>> wrote: >>> >>> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >>> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >>> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >>> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >>> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >>> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >>> George >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Yes she would have had to reapply. it was called the Reparation Act. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > So now I'm wondering. > I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. > She was born in Newport RI > Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather > and he became a citizen > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an > alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > > Do you mean that your mother was born here > > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
You need to put dates. I can't follow. 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. 3) Date & place they married. 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > So now I'm wondering. > I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. > She was born in Newport RI > Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather > and he became a citizen > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an > alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > > Do you mean that your mother was born here > > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from thi
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
So now I'm wondering. I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. She was born in Newport RI Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather and he became a citizen Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: > > My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an alien > she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice. > > Rick > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Liz Migliori > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she > told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's > but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she > finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my > gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if > anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the > husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a > U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before > 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her > husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in > America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and > see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their > husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of > a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has > her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
I think I would avoid this company like the plague. Rick From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
After 1920, a woman was her own person and would have to apply for her own citizenship. It didn't matter what her husband did. On Jun 14, 2017 2:46 PM, "Liz Migliori" wrote: > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > >> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >> George >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Wait, who got around to it in the 60's Do you mean that your mother was born here Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not automatically become citizen again??? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she > told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's > but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she > finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my >> gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if >> anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >>> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >>> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >>> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >>> >>> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >>> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >>> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >>> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros wrote: When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. George Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Most of the women this happened to, and there were many, reclaimed their citizenship so they could collect Social Security. "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my > gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if > anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the >> husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being >> a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too >> (before 1920 and women's rights). >> >> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name >> in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses >> and see if she was a citizen. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >>> wrote: >>> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >>> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >>> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >>> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >>> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >>> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >>> George >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the > husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a > U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before > 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her > husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in > America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and > see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >> wrote: >> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >> George >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Military flights to Lajes Air For e in Terceira
Thanks for all the information from everyone. Yes, my husband is retired military flag officer and he is the one with the Azorean heritage. There were no flights available when we were out on the East coast but thanks to all of you, we now have information to plan a trip. I will keep looking at the Facebook pages for the different locations so as to get an idea of how often and where to fly from. Thanks so much for all your good input. Maria Elena > On Jun 10, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Marie Shantz wrote: > > Took flights from BWI to Terceira. Usually late in the day in Saturday. > Need a passport. The military side is now run by Portuguese Military. You > cannot leave the base till your passport is stamped!!! On Monday. There is > lodging on base. Place to eat as well and exchange money. Need a ride to the > other side tho my husband and I have walked there. - the civilian airport to > catch flights to other islands. People in lodging always helped us secure our > plane tickets since we do not speak Portuguese. I would go to Sao Miguel to > Vila Franca where grandmother was born. Once flew to Madeira via Terceira to > Ponta Delgada Azores to Faial Madeira to grandfathers birth place > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before 1920 and women's rights). 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and see if she was a citizen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. George Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A puzzle of several men named Thome MachadoFagundes from Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, Terceira
Thank you. I have corrected my database but I wonder if I have properly place Francisco Machado da Costa. I have him as a son to Thome Machado Mendonca AKA Thome Machado Fagundes. Francisco married Maria Cota on 9/11/1735 in Santa Barbara. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Philippe Garnier Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:51 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A puzzle of several men named Thome MachadoFagundes from Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, Terceira Hi Doreen, Your Tomé Machado Fagundes n° 3, married with Agueda da Costa, is Tomé Machado de Mendonça married on 12/07/1705 in Santa Barbara. His name is Tomé Machado Fagundes to his daughter's marriage, Maria Angelica with João Homem Borba (09/07/1756) in Altares. This Tomé is grandson of your Tomé n° 2, married with Maria das Neves Lucas. Amicalement Philippe Garnier Paris - France Le dimanche 11 juin 2017 18:41:19 UTC+2, doreencaetano a écrit : Good Morning. I have been looking at my database for duplicate people. I have 3 Thome Machado Fagundes that are all from Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, Terceira. They are not in my direct lines but through matching people from Family Finder FTDNA (and then adding the connection to my tree) I have added these 3 men. I think they are from the same family. Here is the information I have on them: Thome Machado Fagundes #1 born 12/28/1609 Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, Terceira and died 6/16/1685 in same location. His wife was Maria das Neves Lucas and he had several children one of which was name Thome and was born 9/4/1650 in Santa Barbara. His parents are my #356 Luis Martins de Borba and #357 Mecia Lourenco Fagundes. Thome Machado Fagundes #2 is Thome # 1's son. He married Francisca da Cruz in 1690 in Santa Barbara and had a son Francisco in 1695 in Santa Barbara. Thome Machado Fagundes #3 was married to Agueda da Costa and both of them died in Santa Barbara. They have a child name Maria Angelica who was the wife of Jose Homem Borges. Jose was born in Quatros Ribeiras and Maria died in Altares. Jose and Maria had a child named Francisco Jose Homem born in Altares and died in Altares, Francisco married Josepha Catarina who was born 1761 in Biscoitos, Terceira. Francisco and Josepha had a child named Antonio in 1793 in Altares. I was wondering if anyone had researched this family. I'm thinking that my Thome #2 is the father of Thome #3. I have done no research on this line. All of this information is from other people's research and had very little supporting documentation. Luis Martins de Borba and Mecia Lourenco Fagundes are part of my direct lineage and I'm confident that this information is correct since it came from Joao Ventura and appears in my tree several times. Any help would be appreciated. I'm just trying to keep all data orderly and my connections straight. Doreen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: A puzzle of several men named Thome Machado Fagundes from Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, Terceira
Hi Doreen, Your Tomé Machado Fagundes n° 3, married with Agueda da Costa, is Tomé Machado de Mendonça married on 12/07/1705 in Santa Barbara. His name is Tomé Machado Fagundes to his daughter's marriage, Maria Angelica with João Homem Borba (09/07/1756) in Altares. This Tomé is grandson of your Tomé n° 2, married with Maria das Neves Lucas. Amicalement Philippe Garnier Paris - France Le dimanche 11 juin 2017 18:41:19 UTC+2, doreencaetano a écrit : > > Good Morning. I have been looking at my database for duplicate people. I > have 3 Thome Machado Fagundes that are all from Santa Barbara, Nove > Ribeiras, Terceira. They are not in my direct lines but through matching > people from Family Finder FTDNA (and then adding the connection to my tree) > I have added these 3 men. I think they are from the same family. Here is > the information I have on them: > Thome Machado Fagundes #1 born 12/28/1609 Santa Barbara, Nove Ribeiras, > Terceira and died 6/16/1685 in same location. His wife was Maria das Neves > Lucas and he had several children one of which was name Thome and was born > 9/4/1650 in Santa Barbara. His parents are my #356 Luis Martins de Borba > and #357 Mecia Lourenco Fagundes. > Thome Machado Fagundes #2 is Thome # 1's son. He married Francisca da Cruz > in 1690 in Santa Barbara and had a son Francisco in 1695 in Santa Barbara. > Thome Machado Fagundes #3 was married to Agueda da Costa and both of them > died in Santa Barbara. They have a child name Maria Angelica who was the > wife of Jose Homem Borges. Jose was born in Quatros Ribeiras and Maria died > in Altares. Jose and Maria had a child named Francisco Jose Homem born in > Altares and died in Altares, Francisco married Josepha Catarina who was > born 1761 in Biscoitos, Terceira. Francisco and Josepha had a child named > Antonio in 1793 in Altares. > > I was wondering if anyone had researched this family. I'm thinking that my > Thome #2 is the father of Thome #3. I have done no research on this line. > All of this information is from other people's research and had very little > supporting documentation. Luis Martins de Borba and Mecia Lourenco Fagundes > are part of my direct lineage and I'm confident that this information is > correct since it came from Joao Ventura and appears in my tree several > times. > Any help would be appreciated. I'm just trying to keep all data orderly > and my connections straight. Doreen > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help Reading Altares marriage of Manuel Vas da Costa and Antonia de Avila
Manoel Ribeiro sapateiro (shoes maker) Philippe Garnier Paris - France Em Sábado, 10 de Junho de 2017 22:33, "bsei2...@gmail.com" escreveu: Here's a record that may be related (bottom left) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P48.html. Altares, 15 July 1685 Groom: Salvador Correa da Costa, son of Gaspar Correa da Costa and his wife Luzia CabralBride: Luzia Coelha, daughter of Manuel Ribeiro ??? and his wife Anna da Avila Bill Seidler-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
