Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

[JR]

I'm having great difficulty understanding how arrived at this generation. 

JR

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 9:23:11 PM UTC-4, linda wrote:
>
> :)
> On Jun 20, 2017 6:21 PM, > wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for 
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>>  
>>
>> *From: *linda 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:00 PM
>> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
>> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of 
>> AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes
>>
>>  
>>
>> on my phone, so please forgive the brevity:
>>
>>  
>>
>> Antam/Antao Martins Coelho
>>
>> f: Diogo Fernandes, deceased
>>
>> m: Catharina Coelha/o
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joanna Nunes
>>
>> f: Francisco Dias Coelho
>>
>> m: Maria Carvalha/o
>>
>>  
>>
>> "all parishioners of this parish" which implies the parents but isn't 
>> definitive. All the witnesses are also "parishioners of this parish".
>>
>>  
>>
>> It doesn't look like you missed anything-- at least as far as I can see
>>
>>  
>>
>> :)
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>>  
>>
>> Linda
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Something added to a marriage record- what does it say

[doreencaetano]

There is something added to the bottom of the marriage record on the very 
bottom of right side
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P83.html.
Can someone tell me what it says?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on the 3 marriages for AntonioCoelho Lourenco from Altares

[doreencaetano]

Sorry about the wrong link. Thank you for correcting my information. I have 
corrected my database. You help is greatly appreciated. I really like the way 
you respond in red. It is so clearly understood.

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From: Philippe Garnier
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:08 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on the 3 marriages for AntonioCoelho 
Lourenco from Altares

Hi Doreen,

See in red in your text.

Amicalement

Philippe Garnier
Paris France

Le mardi 20 juin 2017 18:16:05 UTC+2, doreencaetano a écrit :
Ok it appears to me that Antonio Coelho Lourenco was married 3 times but I want 
to make sure. They refer to him as Antonio Coelho and Antonio Coelho Lourenco 
and Antonio Marques

1st wife Isabel da Conceicao in 1724 (2 35v according to marriage index) and he 
is referred to as Antonio Marques right side of the page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P38.html
Does this list his parents or her's. Are they from Altares? I think it is 
indicating that Isabel and Antonio are related too?
Yes, they are are related with a 3 "grao de consanguinisade". Their parents are 
not indicated. 

2nd wife Teresa de Jesus in 1727 (2 39 according to marriage index) and he is 
referred to as Antonio Marques on the right  side of the page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P42.html
Refers to other marriage and give her parents as Manuel Godinho and Joanna?
Her parents are Manoel Godinho da Costa and Joana Lucas

3rd wife Anna da Rosa, widow of Andre Coelho, in 1742 (2 94v) on the right side 
of the page and he is referred to as Antonio Coelho Lourenco
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P25.html
It indicates her parents as Matheus Luis and Josefa Rosa but usually records do 
not list the parents names if they have been married before...?  
Your link is not valid. But, I think you do a mistake. The mariage of Antonio 
Marques widow of Teresa de Jesus, with Ana Maria widow of André Coelho is on 
the img 97, bottom. The next mariage is Antonio Coelho Lourenço and Ana de 
Santa Rosa, on the top of the img 98. They are differents.
 
Also they have a child who marries in 1769. His name is Francisco Goncalves 
Coelho, husband or Maria St. Josepha and their marriage record is on the right 
side:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787_item1/P25.html
This refers to Antonio as Antonio Coelho Lourenco.

Despite the name changes I'm sure that I have followed the records correctly 
because they refer to each other. Unless he married in another village but I do 
not see that in the records. But once again my ability to read this records is 
very limited. Often I wonder what I'm missing if I could only read the whole 
record. Does any of these refer to his parents? Was he born in Altares?
I'm hoping someone in the group is related to him and has already figured this 
out. This branch of the tree stops with him unless I can get additional 
information from these records.
I would appreciate any help I can get. Have a great day. Doreen
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

[linda meneses]

:)
On Jun 20, 2017 6:21 PM,  wrote:

> Thanks so much.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *linda 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:00 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of
> AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes
>
>
>
> on my phone, so please forgive the brevity:
>
>
>
> Antam/Antao Martins Coelho
>
> f: Diogo Fernandes, deceased
>
> m: Catharina Coelha/o
>
>
>
> Joanna Nunes
>
> f: Francisco Dias Coelho
>
> m: Maria Carvalha/o
>
>
>
> "all parishioners of this parish" which implies the parents but isn't
> definitive. All the witnesses are also "parishioners of this parish".
>
>
>
> It doesn't look like you missed anything-- at least as far as I can see
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Linda
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

[doreencaetano]

Thanks so much.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: linda
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:00 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of 
AntaoMartins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

on my phone, so please forgive the brevity:

Antam/Antao Martins Coelho
f: Diogo Fernandes, deceased
m: Catharina Coelha/o

Joanna Nunes
f: Francisco Dias Coelho
m: Maria Carvalha/o

"all parishioners of this parish" which implies the parents but isn't 
definitive. All the witnesses are also "parishioners of this parish".

It doesn't look like you missed anything-- at least as far as I can see

:)

Linda

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of Antao Martins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

[linda]

on my phone, so please forgive the brevity:

Antam/Antao Martins Coelho
f: Diogo Fernandes, deceased
m: Catharina Coelha/o

Joanna Nunes
f: Francisco Dias Coelho
m: Maria Carvalha/o

"all parishioners of this parish" which implies the parents but isn't 
definitive. All the witnesses are also "parishioners of this parish".

It doesn't look like you missed anything-- at least as far as I can see

:)

Linda

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions on the 3 marriages for Antonio Coelho Lourenco from Altares

[Philippe Garnier]

Hi Doreen,

See in red in your text.

Amicalement

Philippe Garnier
Paris France

Le mardi 20 juin 2017 18:16:05 UTC+2, doreencaetano a écrit :
>
> Ok it appears to me that Antonio Coelho Lourenco was married 3 times but I 
> want to make sure. They refer to him as Antonio Coelho and Antonio Coelho 
> Lourenco and Antonio Marques
>
> 1st wife Isabel da Conceicao in 1724 (2 35v according to marriage index) 
> and he is referred to as Antonio Marques right side of the page:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P38.html
> Does this list his parents or her's. Are they from Altares? I think it is 
> indicating that Isabel and Antonio are related too?
>
Yes, they are are related with a 3 "grao de consanguinisade". Their parents 
are not indicated. 

>
> 2nd wife Teresa de Jesus in 1727 (2 39 according to marriage index) and he 
> is referred to as Antonio Marques on the right  side of the page:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P42.html
> Refers to other marriage and give her parents as Manuel Godinho and Joanna?
> Her parents are Manoel Godinho da Costa and Joana Lucas
>
> 3rd wife Anna da Rosa, widow of Andre Coelho, in 1742 (2 94v) on the right 
> side of the page and he is referred to as Antonio Coelho Lourenco
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P25.html
> It indicates her parents as Matheus Luis and Josefa Rosa but usually 
> records do not list the parents names if they have been married before...?  
>
Your link is not valid. But, I think you do a mistake. The mariage of *Antonio 
Marques widow of Teresa de Jesus, with Ana Maria widow of André Coelho* is 
on the i*mg 97, bottom*. The next mariage is Antonio Coelho Lourenço and 
Ana de Santa Rosa, o*n the top of the img 98*. They are differents.
 

> Also they have a child who marries in 1769. His name is Francisco 
> Goncalves Coelho, husband or Maria St. Josepha and their marriage record is 
> on the right side:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787_item1/P25.html
> This refers to Antonio as Antonio Coelho Lourenco.
>
> Despite the name changes I'm sure that I have followed the records 
> correctly because they refer to each other. Unless he married in another 
> village but I do not see that in the records. But once again my ability to 
> read this records is very limited. Often I wonder what I'm missing if I 
> could only read the whole record. Does any of these refer to his parents? 
> Was he born in Altares?
> I'm hoping someone in the group is related to him and has already figured 
> this out. This branch of the tree stops with him unless I can get 
> additional information from these records.
> I would appreciate any help I can get. Have a great day. Doreen
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship

[Neil Teixeira]

Hello Dominick. Neil Teixeira here from the San Francisco Bay Area. Your 
living Father has the right to obtain his Portuguese Dual Citizenship (PC) 
from either one of his Portuguese born parents.Its called the "Attribution" 
process. There is no language test in this process. The Portuguese born 
parent(s) do not need to be alive. But your Father does. If your Father 
passes away prior to obtaining his PC from his parent(s).then the chain 
link is forever broken. And you and your children will not be able to 
obtain your PC thru the attribution process. The biggest and hardest hurdle 
is getting all the correct (Officially Stamped) government/Church 
documents. They DO NOT accept copies. You will apply at the Portuguese 
Consulate that serves your State. To begin the process, you need the 
following "stamped" documents: Grandfathers or Grandmothers Portuguese 
birth record, Grandparents marriage record, your USA birth certificate, 
your marriage record,etcAs far as the name change. If they did it thru 
a local County court, then its easy to get a copy of that legal document. 
If not? Get a official copy of their passport/ship log when they exit the 
Azores, which will show their original name. Then your going to have to 
prove that they changed it here in the USA thru a Entry Port ship document, 
Citizenship application or marriage document...or something..to 
confirm they are one and the same person(s).
You do all this. Fill out the PC application at or thru the mail at your 
Portuguese Consulate, pay the fees, submit all the documents. Wait for 8 
weeks to get word from Lisbon, to see if they have approved your packet of 
documents. Once your Father is granted his PC. Its real easy/much smoother 
for you and your children to get it.   Its a wonderful journey.  Neil 
Teixeira 


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> studied language, art history, and history  - all in Portuguese. Hope it's 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yes it could, how did you get that info. I'm on the Bourne Vets Cemetery
site and he's not coming up. Where did you get the info on Alfred?

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:47 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> There is an Alfred M. Avilla born 1924 living in Dartmouth MA.  He is
> buried in the Veterans Cemetery in Bourne.  Could this be the son??
>
> "E"
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

It could very well be. The "M" in the middle could be for Machado, and the
year of birth is about right. I will do some checking tonight when I get to
the FHC and check out Fold3 and see if anything comes up on him. Thanks
again for the tips!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:47 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> There is an Alfred M. Avilla born 1924 living in Dartmouth MA.  He is
> buried in the Veterans Cemetery in Bourne.  Could this be the son??
>
> "E"
>
>>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

["E" Sharp]

Rosemarie,

There is an Alfred M. Avilla born 1924 living in Dartmouth MA.  He is
buried in the Veterans Cemetery in Bourne.  Could this be the son??

"E"

>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I checked Find-a-Grave but no luck. I might check out the Cemetery you gave
to see if something pops there. Thanks for that clue. I have the line going
back in Sao Jorge just wanted to see if I could find any of Tia Maria's
children and grands! The family here in California lost touch many years
ago.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:35 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> Been out in the sun too long..not the right names.but check
> FindAGrave and see if you can find them there.
>
> "E"
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:31 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:
>
>> Rosemarie,
>>
>> Could this be them?  If not you might want to check the Avilla's at St.
>> John's Cemetery in New Bedford on FindAGrave.
>>
>> https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=avill
>> a&GSiman=1&GScid=91581&GRid=59228367&
>>
>> "E"
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> I'm trying to trace descendants of the above couple. Maria immigrated in
>>> 1912 to California, Joao/John about 1910 to California. They married in
>>> Alameda County California on 16 Aug 1914. Maria's parents: Francisco Vieira
>>> da Silva and Maria de Azevedo of Ribeira da Areia, Sao Jorge, Azores;
>>> Joao's parents Joao Machado Avila & Maria Magdalena de Azevedo from Norte
>>> Grande, Sao Jorge.
>>> After the couple married, they went 'back East' no one in the family
>>> remembers where! Maria supposedly had 3 children and then died young of a
>>> brain tumor.
>>> I've found a John & Mary Avilla in the 1930 Census, the right ages and
>>> also immigration years in Dartmouth, Bristol, Mass. They have Antone Avilla
>>> 14, Mary 8 and Alfred 5. I can not find these children or dad in 1940. Does
>>> anyone recognize this family?? This could be my Maria & Joao/John, the ages
>>> are right, 3 children, immigration years correct.
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

["E" Sharp]

Rosemarie,

Been out in the sun too long..not the right names.but check
FindAGrave and see if you can find them there.

"E"

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:31 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
> Could this be them?  If not you might want to check the Avilla's at St.
> John's Cemetery in New Bedford on FindAGrave.
>
> https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=
> avilla&GSiman=1&GScid=91581&GRid=59228367&
>
> "E"
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I'm trying to trace descendants of the above couple. Maria immigrated in
>> 1912 to California, Joao/John about 1910 to California. They married in
>> Alameda County California on 16 Aug 1914. Maria's parents: Francisco Vieira
>> da Silva and Maria de Azevedo of Ribeira da Areia, Sao Jorge, Azores;
>> Joao's parents Joao Machado Avila & Maria Magdalena de Azevedo from Norte
>> Grande, Sao Jorge.
>> After the couple married, they went 'back East' no one in the family
>> remembers where! Maria supposedly had 3 children and then died young of a
>> brain tumor.
>> I've found a John & Mary Avilla in the 1930 Census, the right ages and
>> also immigration years in Dartmouth, Bristol, Mass. They have Antone Avilla
>> 14, Mary 8 and Alfred 5. I can not find these children or dad in 1940. Does
>> anyone recognize this family?? This could be my Maria & Joao/John, the ages
>> are right, 3 children, immigration years correct.
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

["E" Sharp]

Rosemarie,

Could this be them?  If not you might want to check the Avilla's at St.
John's Cemetery in New Bedford on FindAGrave.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=avilla&GSiman=1&GScid=91581&GRid=59228367&;

"E"

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> I'm trying to trace descendants of the above couple. Maria immigrated in
> 1912 to California, Joao/John about 1910 to California. They married in
> Alameda County California on 16 Aug 1914. Maria's parents: Francisco Vieira
> da Silva and Maria de Azevedo of Ribeira da Areia, Sao Jorge, Azores;
> Joao's parents Joao Machado Avila & Maria Magdalena de Azevedo from Norte
> Grande, Sao Jorge.
> After the couple married, they went 'back East' no one in the family
> remembers where! Maria supposedly had 3 children and then died young of a
> brain tumor.
> I've found a John & Mary Avilla in the 1930 Census, the right ages and
> also immigration years in Dartmouth, Bristol, Mass. They have Antone Avilla
> 14, Mary 8 and Alfred 5. I can not find these children or dad in 1940. Does
> anyone recognize this family?? This could be my Maria & Joao/John, the ages
> are right, 3 children, immigration years correct.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria Vieira da Silva & Joao Machado Avila

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Hi All,
I'm trying to trace descendants of the above couple. Maria immigrated in
1912 to California, Joao/John about 1910 to California. They married in
Alameda County California on 16 Aug 1914. Maria's parents: Francisco Vieira
da Silva and Maria de Azevedo of Ribeira da Areia, Sao Jorge, Azores;
Joao's parents Joao Machado Avila & Maria Magdalena de Azevedo from Norte
Grande, Sao Jorge.
After the couple married, they went 'back East' no one in the family
remembers where! Maria supposedly had 3 children and then died young of a
brain tumor.
I've found a John & Mary Avilla in the 1930 Census, the right ages and also
immigration years in Dartmouth, Bristol, Mass. They have Antone Avilla 14,
Mary 8 and Alfred 5. I can not find these children or dad in 1940. Does
anyone recognize this family?? This could be my Maria & Joao/John, the ages
are right, 3 children, immigration years correct.
Any help would be appreciated.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship

[MaryAnn Santos]

I was told if one's application for Portuguese citizenship is approved then
citizenship will extend to one's children. So yes, if your father becomes a
Portuguese citizen you will be able to apply as well. I'm just beginning
this process so you might want to get information from this link...

*www.portugalreconnect.com *



On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Dominick Lemas 
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> I am curious if my father is successful in gaining citizenship via
> descent, would I then be eligible to apply at a later point in time?
> Additionally, my family name changed from DeLima to Lemas when they came to
> the US. How do I represent this in my father's application?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 12:45:16 PM UTC-4, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> I just began the application process for Portuguese citizenship for
>> grandchildren of Portuguese nationals. I was told I do not have to take a
>> language test because I studied Portuguese at NYU for two semesters and I
>> also took a month-long summer course at the Universidade de Lisboa where I
>> studied language, art history, and history  - all in Portuguese. Hope it's
>> approved!
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
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>> Department of Art and Art Professions
>> NYU/Steinhardt
>> 212.998.5702 <(212)%20998-5702>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship

[Cheri Mello]

Check the forum/web board. The information is there, including who needs to
pass a language test. Representing the name change in a citizenship
application is beyond the scope of this list. We mainly deal with our
ancestry and the deceased! LOL

Here's the 100+ messages on Portuguese Citizenship:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/azores/portuguese$20citizenship%7Csort:relevance

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Dominick Lemas 
wrote:

> I am curious if my father is successful in gaining citizenship via
> descent, would I then be eligible to apply at a later point in time?
> Additionally, my family name changed from DeLima to Lemas when they came to
> the US. How do I represent this in my father's application?
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 12:45:16 PM UTC-4, Maryann Santos wrote:
>>
>> I just began the application process for Portuguese citizenship for
>> grandchildren of Portuguese nationals. I was told I do not have to take a
>> language test because I studied Portuguese at NYU for two semesters and I
>> also took a month-long summer course at the Universidade de Lisboa where I
>> studied language, art history, and history  - all in Portuguese. Hope it's
>> approved!
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
>> --
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>> Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator
>> Department of Art and Art Professions
>> NYU/Steinhardt
>> 212.998.5702 <(212)%20998-5702>
>> ma...@nyu.edu
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Citizenship

[Dominick Lemas]

I am curious if my father is successful in gaining citizenship via descent, 
would I then be eligible to apply at a later point in time? Additionally, 
my family name changed from DeLima to Lemas when they came to the US. How 
do I represent this in my father's application? 



On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 12:45:16 PM UTC-4, Maryann Santos wrote:
>
> I just began the application process for Portuguese citizenship for 
> grandchildren of Portuguese nationals. I was told I do not have to take a 
> language test because I studied Portuguese at NYU for two semesters and I 
> also took a month-long summer course at the Universidade de Lisboa where I 
> studied language, art history, and history  - all in Portuguese. Hope it's 
> approved!
>
> MaryAnn
>
> -- 
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> Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator
> Department of Art and Art Professions
> NYU/Steinhardt
> 212.998.5702
> ma...@nyu.edu 
>
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>
> *Twitter / @NYUart Instagram / @nyuart 
> *
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Questions on the 3 marriages for Antonio Coelho Lourenco from Altares

[doreencaetano]

Ok it appears to me that Antonio Coelho Lourenco was married 3 times but I 
want to make sure. They refer to him as Antonio Coelho and Antonio Coelho 
Lourenco and Antonio Marques

1st wife Isabel da Conceicao in 1724 (2 35v according to marriage index) 
and he is referred to as Antonio Marques right side of the page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P38.html
Does this list his parents or her's. Are they from Altares? I think it is 
indicating that Isabel and Antonio are related too?

2nd wife Teresa de Jesus in 1727 (2 39 according to marriage index) and he 
is referred to as Antonio Marques on the right  side of the page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P42.html
Refers to other marriage and give her parents as Manuel Godinho and Joanna?


3rd wife Anna da Rosa, widow of Andre Coelho, in 1742 (2 94v) on the right 
side of the page and he is referred to as Antonio Coelho Lourenco
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P25.html
It indicates her parents as Matheus Luis and Josefa Rosa but usually 
records do not list the parents names if they have been married before...? 

Also they have a child who marries in 1769. His name is Francisco Goncalves 
Coelho, husband or Maria St. Josepha and their marriage record is on the 
right side:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1763-1787_item1/P25.html
This refers to Antonio as Antonio Coelho Lourenco.

Despite the name changes I'm sure that I have followed the records 
correctly because they refer to each other. Unless he married in another 
village but I do not see that in the records. But once again my ability to 
read this records is very limited. Often I wonder what I'm missing if I 
could only read the whole record. Does any of these refer to his parents? 
Was he born in Altares?
I'm hoping someone in the group is related to him and has already figured 
this out. This branch of the tree stops with him unless I can get 
additional information from these records.
I would appreciate any help I can get. Have a great day. Doreen

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Hepl reading Altares Marriage record of Antao Martins Coelho and Joanna Nunes

[doreencaetano]

Thanks again for all the previous help. Need help reading the marriage 
record of Antao Martins Coelho and Joanna Nunes from Altares.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P18.html
Here's is what I can get from the record married 2/2/1665 groom's parents 
are Diogo Friz and Catharina Coelha and bride's parents are Francisco Dias 
Coelho and Maria? Is this correct? Are the parents from Altares. Is there 
any other information that might help me with my research?

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