Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Joe Matias
I also descend from Manuel Jacome and Maria de melo on my mother's side..if
same couple.


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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Michelle,
> It's Manuel Jácome, b. mid 1600s in São Pedro on Santa Maria island. He
> married Guimar Velha probably 1660s. They died on São Miguel island in Vila
> Franca.
>
> Their son, Manuel Jácome married Maria de Mello and that's how my line
> wound up with the Mello name.
>
> My dad carries the Y- DNA of these 2 Manuel Jácomes.
>
> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio de Melo

2017-08-30 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Wow! Thanks so much.
 

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 3:49 PM, JR  wrote:
 

 More of the St Maria connection re, Antonio de Mello line:
   Ancestors of Antonio de Melo       GenerationNo. 1        1.  Antoniode 
Melo, born 13 Jun 1716 in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria, res VilaFranca.  He 
was the son of 2. Manuelde Melo Rodrigues and 3. Ana Velho. He married (1) 
Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca, Matriz.  She was born Abt. 1718 
in Vila Franca,Matriz, and died Bef. 07 Jun 1781.  Shewas the daughter of Joao 
Pacheco Barbosa or Brito and Luzia Moniz.    GenerationNo. 2        2.  
Manuel deMelo Rodrigues, born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria, res Almagreira. 
 He was the son of 4. Antonio Jorge and5. Catarina de Melo.  He married 3.Ana 
Velho 16 Apr 1714 in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.     3.  AnaVelho, born 
in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria, res Almagreira.  She was the daughter of 6. 
FranciscoFernandes and 7. Maria Velha.      Children of Manuel 
MeloRodrigues and Ana Velho are:     1 i.    Antonio de 
Melo, born 13 Jun 1716 in Santo Espirito, Ilha StMaria, res Vila Franca; 
married Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca,Matriz.    
  ii.    Tome, born 21 Dec 1718 in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.       
GenerationNo. 3        4.  AntonioJorge, born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St 
Maria.  He married 5. Catarina de Melo Abt.1670.     5.  Catarinade Melo, 
born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria.      Child of Antonio Jorge 
andCatarina Melo is:     2 i.    Manuel de Melo Rodrigues, 
born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria,res Almagreira; married (1) Catarina 
Velho 11 May 1692 in NS da Assuncao, IlhaSt Maria; married (2) Maria Pereira 28 
Jan 1704 in NS da Assuncao, Ilha StMaria; married (3) Ana Velho 16 Apr 1714 in 
Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.           6.  FranciscoFernandes, born in 
Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria; died Bef. 16 Apr1714.  He married 7. Maria 
Velha.     7.  MariaVelha, born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria; died Bef. 
16 Apr 1714.      Child of FranciscoFernandes and Maria Velha is:     3 
    i.    Ana Velho, born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria, res 
Almagreira;married Manuel de Melo Rodrigues 16 Apr 1714 in Santo Espirito, Ilha 
St Maria.      JR
On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 10:31:51 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
Thanks John; I appreciate you bring this to my attention. I am going to forward 
this to the Azores list so others may correct the initial information that I 
sent.
John 

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:35 AM, JR  wrote:
 

 Someone mixed up the marriage location, John. Antonio Melo and Francisca 
Pacheco married in Vila Franca. And take note that mother of Antonio is Anna 
Velha not Valle
JR
 Ancestors of Pascoal de Melo  GenerationNo. 1 1.  Pascoalde Melo, born 
in Vila Franca, Matriz. He was the son of 2. Antonio de Melo and 3. Francisca 
Pacheco.  He married (1) Maria Laureana 02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira Grande, Estrela. 
 Shewas born in Ribeira Grande, Estrela.  Shewas the daughter of Jose da Costa 
Puga and Barbara do Espirito santo. Marriage Notes for PascoalMelo and 
Maria:http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784/SMG-RG- ESTRELA-C-1768-1784_item1/ P142.html 
GenerationNo. 2 2.  Antoniode Melo, born Abt. 1716 in Vila Franca do 
Campo- Matriz.  He was the son of 4. Manuel de Meloand 5. Ana Velho.  He 
married 3.Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca,Matriz.    3.  
FranciscaPacheco, born Abt. 1718 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; died Bef. 07 
Jun1781.  She was the daughter of 6. JoaoPacheco Barbosa or Brito and 7. Luzia 
Moniz. Notes for Antonio de Melo:Antonio de Mello on record Notes for 
FranciscaPacheco:Francisca Paxeca on record Marriage Notes for AntonioMelo and 
Francisca Pacheco:http://culturacores.azores. gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- 
VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_ item1/P302.html page 
298 verso    Children of Antonio Meloand Francisca Pacheco are: 
 i.    Manuel de Melo, born in Vila Franca, Matriz;married Joana 
Maria 07 Jun 1781 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; born in Ponta Garca- NS da 
Piedade. Marriage Notes for ManuelMelo and Joana:http://culturacores.azores. 
gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG- 
VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_ item1/P11.html pg 8 1    ii.    
Pascoal de Melo, born in Vila Franca, Matriz; married MariaLaureana or Maria de 
Jesus 02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira Grande, Estrela.  GenerationNo. 3 4.  
Manuel deMelo, born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.  He married 5. Ana Velho 
Bef. 1708.    5.  AnaVelho, born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.    
Child of Manuel Melo andAna Velho is:    2 i.    Antonio de 
Melo, born Abt. 1716 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz;married Francisca Pacheco 
12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread linda
I have this name in my tree as well. If I recall correctly, my Jacome ancestor 
was on Terceira. I have further notes, but will not have access to them again 
for a few days.

what island are you researching? 

Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Maria Lima
Hi Michelle,

My husband's ancestor was Sebastiao De Resendes Jacome  abt 1666  on Santa 
Maria Island, church of Santa Barbara.  Married Maria da Costa about 1686; 
He Died24 March 1735; 

These are the children I have found:

--Manoel, 
B, 1688

--Joao de Souza de Resendes
B June 1694
Christened in church of Espírito Santo, Santa Maria

--Resendes 1698 
the record was torn, barely readable but I could read were the parents name but 
not child.  Not sure what to call him/her

--José de Resendes Jacome
20 October 1702
Married Marianna Cravalha b 21 May 1717;
died29 Sep 1752

Jose Remarried
Anna  dos Anjos
>From Nossa Senhora da Purificação on Santa Maria

--Maria, 10 August 1705



Maria Elena 

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Michelle,
> It's Manuel Jácome, b. mid 1600s in São Pedro on Santa Maria island. He 
> married Guimar Velha probably 1660s. They died on São Miguel island in Vila 
> Franca.
> 
> Their son, Manuel Jácome married Maria de Mello and that's how my line wound 
> up with the Mello name.
> 
> My dad carries the Y- DNA of these 2 Manuel Jácomes.
> 
> Cheri
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Michelle,
It's Manuel Jácome, b. mid 1600s in São Pedro on Santa Maria island. He
married Guimar Velha probably 1660s. They died on São Miguel island in Vila
Franca.

Their son, Manuel Jácome married Maria de Mello and that's how my line
wound up with the Mello name.

My dad carries the Y- DNA of these 2 Manuel Jácomes.

Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio de Melo

2017-08-30 Thread JR
More of the St Maria connection re, Antonio de Mello line:

 

*Ancestors of Antonio de Melo*

 

 

*Generation No. 1*

 

*1.*  *Antonio de Melo,* born 13 Jun 1716 in Santo Espirito, Ilha 
St Maria, res Vila Franca.  He was the son of *2. Manuel de Melo Rodrigues* 
and *3. Ana Velho*.  He married *(1) Francisca Pacheco* 12 Nov 1738 in Vila 
Franca, Matriz.  She was born Abt. 1718 in Vila Franca, Matriz, and died 
Bef. 07 Jun 1781.  She was the daughter of Joao Pacheco Barbosa or Brito 
and Luzia Moniz.

 

*Generation No. 2*

 

*2.*  *Manuel de Melo Rodrigues,* born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St 
Maria, res Almagreira.  He was the son of *4. Antonio Jorge* and *5. 
Catarina de Melo*.  He married *3. Ana Velho* 16 Apr 1714 in Santo 
Espirito, Ilha St Maria.

*3.*  *Ana Velho,* born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria, res 
Almagreira.  She was the daughter of *6. Francisco Fernandes* and *7. Maria 
Velha*.



Children of Manuel Melo Rodrigues and Ana Velho are:

1 i.Antonio de Melo, born 13 Jun 1716 in Santo 
Espirito, Ilha St Maria, res Vila Franca; married Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 
1738 in Vila Franca, Matriz.

 ii.Tome, born 21 Dec 1718 in Santo Espirito, 
Ilha St Maria.

 

 

*Generation No. 3*

 

*4.*  *Antonio Jorge,* born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria.  He 
married *5. Catarina de Melo* Abt. 1670.

*5.*  *Catarina de Melo,* born in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria.



Child of Antonio Jorge and Catarina Melo is:

2 i.Manuel de Melo Rodrigues, born in NS da 
Assuncao, Ilha St Maria, res Almagreira; married (1) Catarina Velho 11 May 
1692 in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria; married (2) Maria Pereira 28 Jan 
1704 in NS da Assuncao, Ilha St Maria; married (3) Ana Velho 16 Apr 1714 in 
Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.

 

 

*6.*  *Francisco Fernandes,* born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria; 
died Bef. 16 Apr 1714.  He married *7. Maria Velha*.

*7.*  *Maria Velha,* born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria; died 
Bef. 16 Apr 1714.



Child of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Velha is:

3 i.Ana Velho, born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St 
Maria, res Almagreira; married Manuel de Melo Rodrigues 16 Apr 1714 in 
Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.

 

 JR

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 10:31:51 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote:
>
> Thanks John; I appreciate you bring this to my attention. I am going to 
> forward this to the Azores list so others may correct the initial 
> information that I sent.
>
> John
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:35 AM, JR > 
> wrote:
>
>
> Someone mixed up the marriage location, John. Antonio Melo and Francisca 
> Pacheco married in Vila Franca. And take note that mother of Antonio is 
> Anna Velha not Valle
>
> JR
>
>  
> *Ancestors of Pascoal de Melo*
>  
>  
> *Generation No. 1*
>  
> *1.*  *Pascoal de Melo,* born in Vila Franca, Matriz.  He was the 
> son of *2. Antonio de Melo* and *3. Francisca Pacheco*.  He married *(1) 
> Maria Laureana *02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira Grande, Estrela.  She was born in 
> Ribeira Grande, Estrela.  She was the daughter of Jose da Costa Puga and 
> Barbara do Espirito santo.
>  
> Marriage Notes for Pascoal Melo and Maria:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784_item1/P142.html
>  
> *Generation No. 2*
>  
> *2.*  *Antonio de Melo,* born Abt. 1716 in Vila Franca do Campo- 
> Matriz.  He was the son of *4. Manuel de Melo* and *5. Ana Velho*.  He 
> married *3. Francisca Pacheco* 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca, Matriz.
> *3.*  *Francisca Pacheco,* born Abt. 1718 in Vila Franca do 
> Campo- Matriz; died Bef. 07 Jun 1781.  She was the daughter of *6. Joao 
> Pacheco Barbosa or Brito* and *7. Luzia Moniz*.
>  
> Notes for Antonio de Melo:
> Antonio de Mello on record
>  
> Notes for Francisca Pacheco:
> Francisca Paxeca on record
>  
> Marriage Notes for Antonio Melo and Francisca Pacheco:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P302.html
>  
> page 298 verso
> 
> Children of Antonio Melo and Francisca Pacheco are:
>   i.Manuel de Melo, born in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz; married Joana Maria 07 Jun 1781 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; 
> born in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade.
>  
> Marriage Notes for Manuel Melo and Joana:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P11.html
>  
> pg 8
>  
> 1ii.Pascoal de Melo, born in Vila Franca, 
> Matriz; married Maria Laureana or Maria de Jesus 02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira 
> Grande, Estrela.
>  
>  
> *Generation No. 3*
>  
> *4.*  *Manuel de Melo,* born in Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.  
> He married *5. Ana Velho* Bef. 1708.
> *5.* 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Joe Matias
Where are your Jacome's from Michelle?


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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Michele,
> Yes, technically my Mello line should have been Jacome. I am the 10th
> generation to carry Mello. The 11th generation was a Manuel Jacome born in
> the 1660s on Santa Maria island. I'm going off the top of my head, as my
> computer is being used to run the slides for the conference in Salt Lake,
> so I can't look it up at the moment. Will respond more later. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Pam Santos
This is what I have

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> You're welcome. I've accumulated a quite a bit for that Parish for the
> early years.  Do you have his children?
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>
> Yes Margaret- I was looking for that Manoel Tavares!  THANK YOU.  Somehow
> I missed it so I'm grateful to you for sending it.  Yay!!😀😀
>
> Maria Elena
>
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 3:24 AM, JR  wrote:
>
> No, I would not list child of a slave as a child of the owner. That would
> give the wrong idea. Simply make a note that your ancestor owned a slave
> who had a child.
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:53:20 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Pam,
>>
>> I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of
>> finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings.
>>
>> This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our
>> Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as
>> his child - right?
>>
>> LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>> SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
>>
>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Maria Lima
Yes I have his children starting in 1649 with Maria.  I searched marriages 
trying to find one or two children of theirs thought might have been born 
between 1644 when they married and when the records started up again in 1649.  
Did not find any but then, I also missed Manoel Tavares birth record which you 
sen me.

Thank you.

Maria Elena 

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> You're welcome. I've accumulated a quite a bit for that Parish for the early 
> years.  Do you have his children?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes Margaret- I was looking for that Manoel Tavares!  THANK YOU.  Somehow I 
>> missed it so I'm grateful to you for sending it.  Yay!!😀😀
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 3:24 AM, JR  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, I would not list child of a slave as a child of the owner. That would 
>>> give the wrong idea. Simply make a note that your ancestor owned a slave 
>>> who had a child. 
>>> 
>>> JR
>>> 
 On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:53:20 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
 Pam,
 
 I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of 
 finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings. 
 
 This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our 
 Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as 
 his child - right?
 
 LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
 
 Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
You're welcome. I've accumulated a quite a bit for that Parish for the early 
years.  Do you have his children?



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Maria Lima  wrote:
> 
> Yes Margaret- I was looking for that Manoel Tavares!  THANK YOU.  Somehow I 
> missed it so I'm grateful to you for sending it.  Yay!!😀😀
> 
> Maria Elena 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 3:24 AM, JR  wrote:
>> 
>> No, I would not list child of a slave as a child of the owner. That would 
>> give the wrong idea. Simply make a note that your ancestor owned a slave who 
>> had a child. 
>> 
>> JR
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:53:20 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>> Pam,
>>> 
>>> I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of 
>>> finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings. 
>>> 
>>> This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our 
>>> Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as 
>>> his child - right?
>>> 
>>> LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
>>> 
>>> Maria Elena 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Manuel Mota and Ana Rodrigues, 1620, Sao Pedro church in Ponta Delgada

2017-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Any time Cheri.

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> On Aug 30, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> Thanks Margaret! I'll let him know. Cheri
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2017 9:52 PM, "Margaret Vicente"  
>> wrote:
>> Detest auto correct, confirming groom is Manuel da Mota.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Marriage Manuel Mota and Ana Rodrigues, 1620, Sao Pedro church in Ponta 
>>> Delgada...
>>> 
>>> Top right:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P7.html
>>> 
>>> We need help with the father of the groom (line 8) and the bride's parents 
>>> that follow.
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Cheri in Salt Lake City at the conference!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Margaret Vicente
Pam, you are welcome.

Let me know who else in Sao Jose you are lookin for or pm me as I may save you 
some searching time.  My Dad's side is from there.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Margaret
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Margaret Vicente 
>>  wrote:
>> Maria Elena, if you're looking for Manuel's birth record whose parents are 
>> Jose Goncalves and Maria Vieira, you will find it here, left page, 2nd from 
>> the bottom.
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P114.html
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>>> Okay no problem
>>> 
 On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Maria Lima  
 wrote:
 Pam,
 
 I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of 
 finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings. 
 
 This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our 
 Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as 
 his child - right?
 
 LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Michele,
Yes, technically my Mello line should have been Jacome. I am the 10th
generation to carry Mello. The 11th generation was a Manuel Jacome born in
the 1660s on Santa Maria island. I'm going off the top of my head, as my
computer is being used to run the slides for the conference in Salt Lake,
so I can't look it up at the moment. Will respond more later. Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Maria Lima
Yes Margaret- I was looking for that Manoel Tavares!  THANK YOU.  Somehow I 
missed it so I'm grateful to you for sending it.  Yay!!😀😀

Maria Elena 

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 3:24 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> No, I would not list child of a slave as a child of the owner. That would 
> give the wrong idea. Simply make a note that your ancestor owned a slave who 
> had a child. 
> 
> JR
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:53:20 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>> Pam,
>> 
>> I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of 
>> finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings. 
>> 
>> This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our Jose 
>> GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as his 
>> child - right?
>> 
>> LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
>> 
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
>> 
>> Maria Elena 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree programs

2017-08-30 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Have you tried uploading a Gedcom file?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Maggie15
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 11:05 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree programs

 

I have all of my family tree loaded on a MAC version of Family Tree Maker. An 
older version. Now I can't upload it to any other site.

Anyone have any idea what to do?   I want to get it loaded onto something that 
is working better.   

Maggie Homen Sutton

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Spain

2017-08-30 Thread Ângela Loura
I think there are some microfilms at FamilySearch

2017-08-29 23:34 GMT+01:00 Shirley Allegre :

> Does anyone out there know of an email address for Spain that covers
> births, marriages & deaths?
>
> I am researching my KING Denis of Portugal.  He had a gazillion Spanish
> ancestors.
>
> All help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
> Shirley in CA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation of Joao Machado de Azevedo andIsabel Silveira de Azevedo

2017-08-30 Thread Maggie15
My best to you!!
Maggie

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:25:07 PM UTC-7, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:
>
> Maggie;  I’m not sure if we had found our connection before but; my 
> husband and I are traveling and I have been frustrated by not having the 
> time to check on some of the names I’ve seen seeing coming across the 
> Azores List.  Today I had a bit of time.  Joao Machado de Azevedo is my 4
> th great uncle.  I descend from his sister; Isabel Silveira d’Azevedo.  
> She is my 3rd ggrandmother.  Hello Cousin!  😊  I am excited to find this 
> connection and thanks to your information be able to add to my information.
>
>  
>
> Hope you are having a wonderful day,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Camas, WA)
>
>  
>
> *From: *Maggie15 
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:24 AM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation of Joao Machado de Azevedo 
> andIsabel Silveira de Azevedo
>
>  
>
> See if you find information that helps in this - this is my Azevedo line, 
> From Maggie Homen Sutton:
>
>  
>
> death record: August 15, 1881 in Manadas, baptised in Calheta, living in 
> Manadas at age 98 (? )
>
> birth record: June 3, 1788 to Alferes Manuel Silveira Machado and Mari a 
> Silveira,
>
> godparents were Capitao Manuel de Azevedo Machado and his wife D. Mari a 
> of Calheta.
>
> .
>
> Birth:
>
> Joam, filho do Alferes Manoel de Azevedo Machado, digo, de Manoel Silv 
> eira Machado e de sua mulher Maria Sylveira, naturais e freguezes dest a 
> Matriz de Santa Catarina da Vila da Calheta, ilha de S„o Jorge, nasc eo em 
> os trez dias do mes de Junho de mil settecentos e outenta e out o e foy 
> baptizado em os seis dias do mesmo mes pelo reverendo cura ouv idor Jacinto 
> JozÈ de Bittencourt, foram padrinhos o capitam Manoel de Azevedo Machado e 
> sua irm„a D. Maria, desta freguesia, de que se lanÁo u este termo, em que 
> assignam testemunhas Antonio Francisco Maciel e A ntonio Pereira de Borba, 
> estudantes, era ut supra.
>
> O cura Jacinto Joze de Bettencourt
>
> Antonio Francisco Maciel
>
> Antonio Pereira de Borba
>
>  
>
> Translation:
>
> Jo„o, son of Alferes Manuel Silveira Machado and his wife Maria Silvei ra, 
> both from Calheta, was born on 3 June 1788 and was baptised on th e 6th, in 
> Calheta. Godparents were Capit„o Manuel de Azevedo Machado a nd his wife D. 
> Maria, both living in Calheta. Witnesses were AntÛnio F rancisco Maciel and 
> Antonio Pereira de Borba, both both students.
>
>  
>
> ...
>
> Marriage record to second wife -
>
> Joam Machado d'Azevedo, viuvo de Tereza Laureana e filho do Capitam Ma 
> noel Silveira Machado e de sua mulher Maria Silveira, e Isabel, digo, 
> Silveira, ja defunctos, e Izabel Silveira d'Azevedo, filha legitima d' 
> Antonio Silveira de Souza e de sua mulher Maria Bernarda, naturaes e f 
> reguezes desta matriz de Santa Catharina da villa da Calheta da Ilha d e 
> Sam Jorge, cazaram solemnemente hum com outro, por palavras de prese nte, 
> na forma do sagrado concilio tridentino e mais contituiÁoens dest a 
> bispado, nesta mesma Matriz na tarde do dia onze de Janeiro de mil o 
> itocentos e desasette, em presensa do reverendo vigario Simam Joze da 
> Silveira, que lhes dei as benÁ„os, do capitam Miguel Antonio da Silvei ra e 
> Souza, do capitam Joze Sebastiam de Sousa e d'outras mais pessoa s que se 
> achavam, dipois de haverem sido proclamados tanto nesta igrej a e como na 
> parochial de Santiago da Ribeira Secca, sem se descobrir i mpedimento 
> algum, como constou de hum alvar· do everendo ouvidor do de stricto, a que 
> me reporto no archivo desta igreja, e para constar fiz o presente, que 
> assigno com o reverendo vigario e testemunhas, dia, me z e anno supra.
>
> O beneficiado Antonio Caetano d'Oliveira
>
> O vigario Sim„o JozÈ da Sylveira
>
> Miguel Antonuio da Silveira e Sousa
>
> Jose Sebasti„o de Souza
>
>  
>
> Translation:
>
> In the afternoon, on 11 January 1817, in Calheta, Jo„o Machado de Azev 
> edo, widower of Teresa Laureana, and son of Capit„o Manuel Silveira d e 
> Azevedo and his wife Maria Silveira, both deceased, married to Isabe l 
> Silveira de Azevedo, legitimate daughter of AntÛnio Silveira de Sous a and 
> his wife Maria Bernarda, both baptised in Calheta. Witnesses wer e Captains 
> Miguel AntÛnio da Silveira e Sousa and JosÈ Sebasti„o de So usa. On the 
> margin there is this information: Manuel Silveira Machado , son of Nicolau 
> Silveira, from Rosais, and D. Maria de Azevedo, who i s daughter of 
> Sargento-mor AntÛnio de Azevedo Teixeira, son of Manuel de Azevedo Teixeira 
> and Ana Dias de Lemos, he is son of Capit„o-mor Ma nuel de Azevedo and 
> Maria Vaz, so Rita da GlÛria, widow of Manuel Mach ado Leonardo, living in 
> Rua Nova os 5th granddaughter of the mentione d Capit„o-mor, because she is 
> daughter of Jo„o Machado de Azevedo and Isabel Silveira.
>
>  
>
> ...
>
> Death record:
>
> Aos quinze dias do mez de Agosto do anno de mil oito

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree programs

2017-08-30 Thread Maggie15
I have all of my family tree loaded on a MAC version of Family Tree Maker. 
An older version. Now I can't upload it to any other site.
Anyone have any idea what to do?   I want to get it loaded onto something 
that is working better.   
Maggie Homen Sutton

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks Margaret

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Maria Elena, if you're looking for Manuel's birth record whose parents are
> Jose Goncalves and Maria Vieira, you will find it here, left page, 2nd from
> the bottom.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P114.html
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>
>> Okay no problem
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Maria Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pam,
>>>
>>> I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of
>>> finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings.
>>>
>>> This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our
>>> Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as
>>> his child - right?
>>>
>>> LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-
>>> SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jacome family line

2017-08-30 Thread Michelle daPonte saslow
I am looking for anyone who is researching JACOME. That is my children's 
family. I would like to touch base with others who may be researching.
Someone told me that Cheri Mello was.
Please contact me.
Michelle

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Manuel Mota and Ana Rodrigues, 1620, Sao Pedro church in Ponta Delgada

2017-08-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Thanks Margaret! I'll let him know. Cheri
On Aug 29, 2017 9:52 PM, "Margaret Vicente" 
wrote:

> Detest auto correct, confirming groom is Manuel da Mota.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Marriage Manuel Mota and Ana Rodrigues, 1620, Sao Pedro church in Ponta
> Delgada...
> Top right:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1617-1657_item1/P7.html
>
> We need help with the father of the groom (line 8) and the bride's parents
> that follow.
>
> Thanks, Cheri in Salt Lake City at the conference!
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antonio de Melo

2017-08-30 Thread 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy
Thanks John; I appreciate you bring this to my attention. I am going to forward 
this to the Azores list so others may correct the initial information that I 
sent.
John 

On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:35 AM, JR  wrote:
 

 Someone mixed up the marriage location, John. Antonio Melo and Francisca 
Pacheco married in Vila Franca. And take note that mother of Antonio is Anna 
Velha not Valle
JR
 Ancestors of Pascoal de Melo  GenerationNo. 1 1.  Pascoalde Melo, born 
in Vila Franca, Matriz. He was the son of 2. Antonio de Melo and 3. Francisca 
Pacheco.  He married (1) Maria Laureana 02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira Grande, Estrela. 
 Shewas born in Ribeira Grande, Estrela.  Shewas the daughter of Jose da Costa 
Puga and Barbara do Espirito santo. Marriage Notes for PascoalMelo and 
Maria:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1768-1784_item1/P142.html
 GenerationNo. 2 2.  Antoniode Melo, born Abt. 1716 in Vila Franca do 
Campo- Matriz.  He was the son of 4. Manuel de Meloand 5. Ana Velho.  He 
married 3.Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca,Matriz.    3.  
FranciscaPacheco, born Abt. 1718 in Vila Franca do Campo- Matriz; died Bef. 07 
Jun1781.  She was the daughter of 6. JoaoPacheco Barbosa or Brito and 7. Luzia 
Moniz. Notes for Antonio de Melo:Antonio de Mello on record Notes for 
FranciscaPacheco:Francisca Paxeca on record Marriage Notes for AntonioMelo and 
Francisca 
Pacheco:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1705-1743_item1/P302.html
 page 298 verso    Children of Antonio Meloand Francisca Pacheco are:   
   i.    Manuel de Melo, born in Vila Franca, Matriz;married 
Joana Maria 07 Jun 1781 in Ponta Garca- NS da Piedade; born in Ponta Garca- NS 
da Piedade. Marriage Notes for ManuelMelo and 
Joana:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1779-1810_item1/P11.html
 pg 8 1    ii.    Pascoal de Melo, born in Vila Franca, 
Matriz; married MariaLaureana or Maria de Jesus 02 Jan 1780 in Ribeira Grande, 
Estrela.  GenerationNo. 3 4.  Manuel deMelo, born in Santo Espirito, 
Ilha St Maria.  He married 5. Ana Velho Bef. 1708.    5.  AnaVelho, born in 
Santo Espirito, Ilha St Maria.    Child of Manuel Melo andAna Velho is: 
   2 i.    Antonio de Melo, born Abt. 1716 in Vila Franca do 
Campo- Matriz;married Francisca Pacheco 12 Nov 1738 in Vila Franca, Matriz. 
 6.  JoaoPacheco Barbosa or Brito, born 20 Jun 1687 in Maia- Espirito 
Santo.  He was the son of Alferes Manuel de BritoPraiano and Maria Pacheco.  He 
married 7.Luzia Moniz 03 Feb 1712 in Vila Franca,Matriz.    7.  LuziaMoniz, 
born in Espirito Santo, Ilha St Maria, res Ribeira das Tainhas.  She was the 
daughter of Manuel de Fontes andApolonia de Aguiar or Jorge. Notes for Joao 
PachecoBarbosa or Brito:Pad- Mel Pacheco filho dePaulo Pacheco and Fca Rapoza 
sua mulher Marriage Notes for JoaoBarbosa or Brito and Luzia Moniz:Records are 
out of order,no longer appears in 1712 area.    Children of Joao Barbosa 
orBrito and Luzia Moniz are:    3 i.    Francisca Pacheco, 
born Abt. 1718 in Vila Franca do Campo-Matriz; died Bef. 07 Jun 1781; married 
Antonio de Melo 12 Nov 1738 in VilaFranca, Matriz. ii.  
  Manuel, born 05 Mar 1730 in Vila Franca, Matriz. Notes for 
Manuel:http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1718-1730/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1718-1730_item1/P275.html
  

   

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Descendents of Jose GONCALVES x Maria Vieira/São José

2017-08-30 Thread JR
No, I would not list child of a slave as a child of the owner. That would 
give the wrong idea. Simply make a note that your ancestor owned a slave 
who had a child. 

JR

On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:53:20 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>
> Pam,
>
> I started searching records for descendents of this couple in hope of 
> finding Manoel Tavares or any of his  siblings. 
>
> This record mentions Jose Goncalves had a slave.  Not sure if it is our 
> Jose GONCALVES.  Even if it s, I dhave mt think I can enter the child as 
> his child - right?
>
> LEFT SIDE  , second record Apolinaria, daughter of slave
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1607-1623_item1/P107.html
>
> Maria Elena 
>

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