[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Birth Record Margin Notes

[bsei2816]

 

Sean,

I found another record that may interest you.

Here is the baptism of Manuel Pacheco de Mello, the father of your Maria 
and the groom in the marriage on my last post.  Manuel’s age and parents 
both fit the marriage record. (#137, bottom right continuing on next page)

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1870-1874/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1870-1874_item1/P304.html*
 


Interestingly, the margin note looks like he married in Ribeira Grande to 
Ruth Gonçalves da Silva from Ribeirão das Lajes, Estados Unidos do Brazil 
(on 15 Jan 1921?).  How this Ruth might relate to Clothilde Gonçalves da 
Silva that he married in 1899, or what happened to Clothilde I do not know. 

Other margin notes show Manuel became widowed (again?) on 16 Nov 1963? and 
died in Rabo de Peixe in 1965.

This baptism also shows Manuel is neto paterno de Francisco Pacheco de 
Mello and Helena Isabel.  These are my GGG-grandparents through their son 
Francisco Pacheco de Mello married to Rita de Jesus.  

Here is the baptism of my Manuel Pacheco de Mello (#40, bottom left 
continuing on right)  

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1875-1879/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1875-1879_item1/P17.html*
 


He has the exact same name and birthplace as yours and is only 3 months 
younger so they were contemporaries in Rabo de Peixe.  The two Manuel 
Pacheco de Mello baptisms (Nov 1874 and Feb 1875) show them to be first 
cousins.  Both have Francisco Pacheco de Mello and Helena Isabel as 
paternal grandparents; one from their son Francisco (my great-great 
grandfather) and one from their son Manuel (your Maria’s grandfather)

I am sorry for the length of this.  I hope I kept everything straight.

Bill Seidler
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Birth Record Margin Notes

[Cheri Mello]

Francisca's middle name is "Helena de Jesus." She has no last name.

The Brazil list is on Rootsweb, but Rootsweb is down. We do have people who
research Brazil. Hopefully one of them will answer that part of your
question. I know Brazil's records are coming online at FamilySearch.org.
Cheri

On Jan 24, 2018 12:00 PM,  wrote:

> Francisca Helena de Jesus
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Birth Record Margin Notes

[bsei2816]

Francisca Helena de Jesus

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Birth Record Margin Notes

[Sean Andrade]

Thanks for the help!

Bill, that marriage record you sent, What is Manuels mothers name? I see 
Francisca ___ de Jesus, but can not make out the middle name. I just 
started this side of my tree so I don't have much information yet.

If I wanted to search the Brazil records is there somewhere I can look, 
something similar to the CCA but in Brazil? Is there also a group like this 
for people searching Brazil lines?

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 10:10:50 PM UTC-8, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I see all the margin notes as Cheri states.  
>
> The parent's marriage is here: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1890-1899_item1/P198.html
>  which 
> shows that the groom (your Maria's father) and his parents are from Rabo de 
> Peixe.  The bride (your Maria's mother) is from parish Santa Cruz dos 
> Mendes, Estado do Rio de Janeiro (Brazil).
>
> I have Pacheco de Mello ancestors from Rabo de Peixe also but I'm not sure 
> how (or if) they connect to these Manuels.  My mother's maternal 
> grandfather was Ventura Pacheco de Mello, born Rabo de Peixe in 1885 to 
> Francisco Pacheco de Mello and Rita de Jesus.  My Ventura did have a 
> brother name Manuel Pacheco de Mello but on a 1903 passaporte listing he is 
> shown as single so is not likely either Manuel (father of groom or 
> groom) on this marriage.   
>
> Bill Seidler
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[Cheri Mello]

My replies are at the bottom? I see all answers come to the top. That's
weird.

I can't remember how intermarried Marie's line is. If it is, it'll fragment
and that is why you see a weaker match. Intermarriage can fragment the
DNA.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:23 AM, brownat68  wrote:

> Thanks Cheri, I found her, 5th Cousin - Remote Cousin to my mother.
> Thought it would be closer...
>
> If you reply by Gmail it places the reply at the bottom of all the
> posts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
> Todd
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> The maternal grands, Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus, are Marie
>> (Ray) Fraley's ancestors. She DNA tested and should be your match. If she
>> has a brother, his Y-DNA would come from Antonio Furtado Rei.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:55 AM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> This is what it says. It is same line as above:
>>>
>>> record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado
>>> [Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da
>>> Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were
>>> received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same
>>> (freg.); neto paterno de Antonio Furtado [Lourencia] and Anna Jacintha; and
>>> materno de Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus; Pad- Manoel Furtado
>>> Lourencia, casado, feitor and Madrinha, Antonia da Conceicao, casada,
>>> domestic. (Padrinho, Manoel, is brother of the father and his wife, is said
>>> Antonia)
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, brownat68 wrote:

 I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image
 that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?

 I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...

 On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:

> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest
> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a
> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A
> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean
> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your
> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>
> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West
> Warwick.  Cheri
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 . 
> wrote:
>
>> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores
>> Genealogy  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.gov
>>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
>>> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:

 Does anyone have any information on an Antone F.
 Lawrence? According to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao 
 Miguel,
 Azores, Portugal. Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was 
 originally
 Furtado Lawrence. Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts 
 before
 1913 because all 3 of his children were born in the USA.

 I believe I have his baptism record here:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
 RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889
 _item1/P166.html

 Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth
 place but have not been able to yet.

 *Children*
 Antone Lawrence 1913
 Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
 Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks

 Todd Brown

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

When someone DNA tests, they sign a paper saying they are willing to be
matched within the FTDNA system. So once a person logs into their match
page, those matches are meant for their eyes and their eyes only (or the
proxy managing the kit). Many people are ignorant of manners, ethics, etc.
They think it's absolutely OK to show something that was meant for them
PERSONALLY to the world. No, that's NOT okay. Same thing as taking a screen
shot of your bank account and publishing it on social media. Why not do
that? We know why.

If you have some ideas for solutions, send them to me and I'll bring them
to the attention of FTDNA.

The screen shot that I show repeatedly of my dad's page shows only 4
people: Me, cousin Nancy, cousin Marie, and cousin Altino. I have emails
from them saying it's OK to show their name and picture. The next person I
do NOT have permission. So hence my cutoff at 4 people. It's enough anyways.

As for the site protecting the information (DNA), only those with the kit
number and password have access to the DNA, same as your online banking. If
the password is shared and people think it's OK to share DNA with the
world, well, then that's not a problem with the DNA site, it's a problem
with the person who shared a password with someone who is completely
ignorant about what is ethically proper to do with someone's DNA. Same
thing as sharing your banking password. If you shared the password with me
and I took a screen shot of your account and posted it on social media,
it's not the bank's problem. Our problem is that we share DNA (unlike bank
accounts) and genealogists don't understand the line between sharing and
violating privacy.

Again, if you have any ideas for FTDNA, let me know.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:25 AM,  wrote:

> Thanks Cheri. I was not questioning the FTDNA but is sounds like others
> may have been questioning their privacy.  This has been and interesting
> topic and I do have another question or concern. On other groups I see
> people posting the match pages(screen shots) from FTDNA. I do not mind the
> person matching getting the info but posting it on a social media seems
> like an exposure to me. So it makes me uncomfortable since I try to honor
> my relatives rights and protect their identity information. In the past I
> tried to use Genmatch. I had problems so I just let it go. I’m constantly
> being asked to post my information. I see other people posting the numbers
> and wonder about the sites ability to protect the information. Can any one
> provide me with insight? Maybe this should be a new topic?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:19 AM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry
>
>
>
> About FTDNA, sorry that's not true. If you want your tree private on
> FTDNA, you can mark it completely private. Here's a completely private tree
> from FTDNA:
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Here's the same tree, share with matches only but the living private:
> [image: Inline image 2]
>
>
>
> FTDNA does, indeed, give you privacy controls.
>
>
>
> So, if you want your tree private, do NOT upload it to ANY cloud based
> site (Ancestry, Family Search, My Heritage, etc). DON'T DNA test. Just let
> your tree live on your computer only and share with NO ONE. Only then will
> your tree remain private. That's really the only way to keep something
> truly private.  Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[brownat68]

Thanks Cheri, I found her, 5th Cousin - Remote Cousin to my mother. Thought 
it would be closer...

If you reply by Gmail it places the reply at the bottom of all the 
posts. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Todd

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 1:00:45 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The maternal grands, Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus, are Marie 
> (Ray) Fraley's ancestors. She DNA tested and should be your match. If she 
> has a brother, his Y-DNA would come from Antonio Furtado Rei.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:55 AM, JR > 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what it says. It is same line as above:
>>
>> record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado 
>> [Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da 
>> Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were 
>> received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same 
>> (freg.); neto paterno de Antonio Furtado [Lourencia] and Anna Jacintha; and 
>> materno de Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus; Pad- Manoel Furtado 
>> Lourencia, casado, feitor and Madrinha, Antonia da Conceicao, casada, 
>> domestic. (Padrinho, Manoel, is brother of the father and his wife, is said 
>> Antonia)
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, brownat68 wrote:
>>>
>>> I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image 
>>> that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?
>>>
>>> I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest 
 relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a 
 Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A 
 NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean 
 Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your 
 way back. Yes, he is a laborer.

 Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West 
 Warwick.  Cheri



 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:

> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>
>> I believe this is his baptism:  
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.
>>   
>> I do n ot have any information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According 
>>> to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 
>>> Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado 
>>> Lawrence. 
>>> Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 
>>> 3 
>>> of his children were born in the USA.
>>>
>>> I believe I have his baptism record here: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>>>
>>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place 
>>> but have not been able to yet. 
>>>
>>> *Children*
>>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Todd Brown
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio Botelho and Thomazia de Jesus

[Melissa]

I'm working on it, very, very slowly. Much appreciated.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 7:40:12 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>
> Melissa, 
>
> Not necessarily a Priest's error but how the information was relayed to 
> him. 
>
> You should paper trail it and document the error once verified by 
> searching the records within a parameter of 5 + years for all the born 
> Tomasia's and as suggested by Cheri, collect all the siblings.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Melissa  > wrote:
>
>> Mara,
>>
>> Thanks so much for this! I was getting stuck here with the names. I guess 
>> the priest just messed up then? Egads, that makes it difficult. 
>>
>> Melissa 
>>
>> On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 10:39:33 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Melissa and Cheri,
>>>
>>> That's because the record is incorrect.  The name is Luis not Francisco 
>>> and the paternal grandmother is also incorrect, her name is Anasticia 
>>> Joaquina.  Notice how the record shows both grandmothers with the same 
>>> name.  Here's Luis's birth record with the correct set of parents and 
>>> grandparents of Tomasia.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P102.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Men generally do not change their names around. The priest was required 
 to read the record back, so the vast majority of errors were caught. I'll 
 look over this when I get home, although Mara may beat me to it.

 I do know that in instances where I have found discrepancies, I had to 
 collect all siblings, all kids, sometimes all grandkids to figure it out.
 Cheri


 On Jan 22, 2018 2:51 PM, "Melissa"  wrote:

 Mara and Cheri, 

 Thanks for this help. Here's my confusion and maybe I just have to live 
 with it: In their marriage record Antonio's father is listed as Joao, 
 which 
 matches, and his mother is listed as Jacinta Candida. In the baptism you 
 linked to, his mother is Francisca. In their marriage record Thomasia's 
 parents are listed as Luiz Cabral and Antonia Candida. In the baptism 
 record you linked to her father is Francisco.

 Are name changes like this common? And if so, how do you manage to 
 track people over time? I assumed women would be much harder given name 
 changes but not so with men.

 Melissa 





 On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 3:15:47 PM UTC-5, Mara wrote:

> Hi Melissa,
>
> This couple are also my relatives:
>
> Antonio's baptism, bottom left:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1860-1864_item1/P230.html
>
> Tomasia, right side. 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>
> Let me know if you have any questions,
>
> Margaret
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Melissa  wrote:
>
>> They were married they 26th of April, 1886 (see #21): 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1880-1889_item1/P196.html
>>  
>>
>> He was 22 and she was 21, which should mean they were born ca. 1864 
>> and 1865, respectively. 
>>
>> I'm looking for their birth records and coming up empty handed. I 
>> found this Thomazia but the father's first name doesn't match: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1865-1869_item1/P48.html
>>  
>> (#141). I haven't been able to find anything for Antonio. Any advice 
>> appreciated.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[brownat68]

Thanks JR. 

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> This is what it says. It is same line as above:
>
> record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado 
> [Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da 
> Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were 
> received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same 
> (freg.); neto paterno de Antonio Furtado [Lourencia] and Anna Jacintha; and 
> materno de Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus; Pad- Manoel Furtado 
> Lourencia, casado, feitor and Madrinha, Antonia da Conceicao, casada, 
> domestic. (Padrinho, Manoel, is brother of the father and his wife, is said 
> Antonia)
>
> JR
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image 
>> that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?
>>
>> I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest 
>>> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a 
>>> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A 
>>> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean 
>>> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your 
>>> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>>>
>>> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West 
>>> Warwick.  Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:
>>>
 The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?

 Todd

 On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy 
  wrote:

> I believe this is his baptism:  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.
>   
> I do n ot have any information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>  
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According 
>> to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 
>> Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado 
>> Lawrence. 
>> Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 
>> 3 
>> of his children were born in the USA.
>>
>> I believe I have his baptism record here: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>>
>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place 
>> but have not been able to yet. 
>>
>> *Children*
>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Todd Brown
>>
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On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:55:23 PM UTC-5, JR wrote:
>
> This is what it says. It is same line as above:
>
> record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado 
> [Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da 
> Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were 
> received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same 
> (fr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[Cheri Mello]

The maternal grands, Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus, are Marie
(Ray) Fraley's ancestors. She DNA tested and should be your match. If she
has a brother, his Y-DNA would come from Antonio Furtado Rei.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:55 AM, JR  wrote:

> This is what it says. It is same line as above:
>
> record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado
> [Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da
> Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were
> received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same
> (freg.); neto paterno de Antonio Furtado [Lourencia] and Anna Jacintha; and
> materno de Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus; Pad- Manoel Furtado
> Lourencia, casado, feitor and Madrinha, Antonia da Conceicao, casada,
> domestic. (Padrinho, Manoel, is brother of the father and his wife, is said
> Antonia)
>
> JR
>
> On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image
>> that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?
>>
>> I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest
>>> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a
>>> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A
>>> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean
>>> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your
>>> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>>>
>>> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West
>>> Warwick.  Cheri
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:
>>>
 The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?

 Todd

 On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy
  wrote:

> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.gov
> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According
>> to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal.
>> Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado 
>> Lawrence.
>> Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3
>> of his children were born in the USA.
>>
>> I believe I have his baptism record here:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
>> RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889
>> _item1/P166.html
>>
>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place
>> but have not been able to yet.
>>
>> *Children*
>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Todd Brown
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[Cheri Mello]

In your post, you sent a link for Family Search only, asking about what it
said for certain column and didn't mention Lillian or needing help with the
baptism, so I didn't go back through the thread looking.

On the baptism Lillian sent, dad is Francisco Furtado from Ponta Garca and
Maria da Luz is from this freguesia (so R. das Tainhas). They were married
in Tainhas.

This priest is where I had to learn how to read the records. He recorded my
immigrant ancestors baptisms. No records were online and we had to go to
the Azores to research. I had a friend with me. The first day, he checked a
couple of my records and said to stack them up. So I asked him every 5 or 6
records or so. The next day, he said I was doing fine, and to leave him
alone! LOL So once you get used to this priest, you can read a lot of
priests because this guy's penmanship is a little tough! LOL

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:35 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:

> I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image
> that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?
>
> I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest
>> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a
>> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A
>> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean
>> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your
>> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>>
>> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West
>> Warwick.  Cheri
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:
>>
>>> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.gov
 .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
 -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
 information on this Antonio other than baptism.


 On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According
> to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal.
> Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence.
> Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3
> of his children were born in the USA.
>
> I believe I have his baptism record here:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
> RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889
> _item1/P166.html
>
> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place
> but have not been able to yet.
>
> *Children*
> Antone Lawrence 1913
> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Todd Brown
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[JR]

This is what it says. It is same line as above:

record No- 16, Antonio, bap- 26 Apr 1886, filho de Francisco Furtado 
[Lourencia] campaneo, natural de NS da Piedade de Ponta Garca and Maria da 
Luz [Rei], natural de Bom Jesus de Ribeira das Tainhas, where they were 
received, are parishioners, and are living on Rua de Igreja of same 
(freg.); neto paterno de Antonio Furtado [Lourencia] and Anna Jacintha; and 
materno de Antonio Furtado Rei and Maria de Jesus; Pad- Manoel Furtado 
Lourencia, casado, feitor and Madrinha, Antonia da Conceicao, casada, 
domestic. (Padrinho, Manoel, is brother of the father and his wife, is said 
Antonia)

JR

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 12:35:37 PM UTC-5, brownat68 wrote:
>
> I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image 
> that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?
>
> I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
>> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest 
>> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a 
>> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A 
>> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean 
>> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your 
>> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>>
>> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West 
>> Warwick.  Cheri
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 . > > wrote:
>>
>>> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>>
 I believe this is his baptism:  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.
   
 I do n ot have any information on this Antonio other than baptism.
  

 On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According 
> to his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. 
> Wife’s name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado 
> Lawrence. 
> Had to of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 
> of his children were born in the USA.
>
> I believe I have his baptism record here: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>
> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place 
> but have not been able to yet. 
>
> *Children*
> Antone Lawrence 1913
> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Todd Brown
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Miranda and Covilha, 1600s, Graciosa

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Don Vasconcelos, dfvasco39 at gmail.com

<>

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Repost for Kate Kearney, kkearney at nosm.ca
>
> I'm wondering what information you might have on the lineage of Manoel
> Tavares Miranda (b. abt 1622) and Catarina Pires da Covilha (b. 1630.
> Father is Domingos Pires da Covhila. Mother is Maria de Freitas) both born,
> I believe, in Santa Cruz, Ilha Graciosa. I'm an descended from their Manuel
> Tavares Miranda. My understanding is that they were descended from
> conversos.
>
> Any information would be very helpful!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Kate
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[brownat68 .]

I was asking if the mothers name was listed on the Baptism record image
that Lillian sent. Is the mother listed and what is the date?

I am going to start looking through the Passportes now...

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest
> relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a
> Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A
> NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean
> Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your
> way back. Yes, he is a laborer.
>
> Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West Warwick.
> Cheri
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:
>
>> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.gov
>>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
>>> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:

 Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According to
 his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Wife’s
 name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence. Had to
 of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 of his
 children were born in the USA.

 I believe I have his baptism record here:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-
 RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889
 _item1/P166.html

 Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place
 but have not been able to yet.

 *Children*
 Antone Lawrence 1913
 Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
 Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks

 Todd Brown

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Miranda and Covilha, 1600s, Graciosa

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Kate Kearney, kkearney at nosm.ca

I'm wondering what information you might have on the lineage of Manoel
Tavares Miranda (b. abt 1622) and Catarina Pires da Covilha (b. 1630.
Father is Domingos Pires da Covhila. Mother is Maria de Freitas) both born,
I believe, in Santa Cruz, Ilha Graciosa. I'm an descended from their Manuel
Tavares Miranda. My understanding is that they were descended from
conversos.

Any information would be very helpful!

Thank you!

Kate

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[Cheri Mello]

Row 19, in the column titled "The NAME and complete address of nearest
relative from whence alien came," it says Francisco F. Lawrence, Rib.a
Tainhas, V. Franca. The column isn't asking for parents, it only ask for A
NAME. Just one name. If you want mom's name, you have to go to the Azorean
Passaportes and check for him outbound. Start Aug. 21, 1908 and work your
way back. Yes, he is a laborer.

Everyone is going to River Point in RI. I think that's near West Warwick.
Cheri



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, brownat68 .  wrote:

> The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?
>
> Todd
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.gov
>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
>> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According to
>>> his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Wife’s
>>> name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence. Had to
>>> of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 of his
>>> children were born in the USA.
>>>
>>> I believe I have his baptism record here: http://culturacores.azores.gov
>>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>>>
>>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place but
>>> have not been able to yet.
>>>
>>> *Children*
>>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Todd Brown
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[brownat68 .]

The fathers name looks like Francisco. Where/What is the mothers name?

Todd

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.
> gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/
> SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According to
>> his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Wife’s
>> name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence. Had to
>> of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 of his
>> children were born in the USA.
>>
>> I believe I have his baptism record here: http://culturacores.azores.gov
>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>>
>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place but
>> have not been able to yet.
>>
>> *Children*
>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Todd Brown
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

[brownat68 .]

This must be his immigration: Family Search

Row
19. Looks like his father is listed as Francis Furtado, column 11.

It looks like Maria is listed above. Row 15. Whole Motta family came over.

What is his occupation, Column 6, Laborer?

Todd



On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I believe this is his baptism:  http://culturacores.azores.
> gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/
> SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.  I do n ot have any
> information on this Antonio other than baptism.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According to
>> his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Wife’s
>> name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence. Had to
>> of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 of his
>> children were born in the USA.
>>
>> I believe I have his baptism record here: http://culturacores.azores.gov
>> .pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG
>> -VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>>
>> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place but
>> have not been able to yet.
>>
>> *Children*
>> Antone Lawrence 1913
>> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Todd Brown
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Antone F. Lawrence of Sao Miguel Azores

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

I believe this is his baptism:  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P159.html.
  
I do n ot have any information on this Antonio other than baptism.
 

On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:05:12 PM UTC-8, brownat68 wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any information on an Antone F. Lawrence? According to 
> his draft card he was born 8 Apr 1886, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Wife’s 
> name was Mary. I think his surname was originally Furtado Lawrence. Had to 
> of immigrated to Plymouth, Massachusetts before 1913 because all 3 of his 
> children were born in the USA.
>
> I believe I have his baptism record here: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889/SMG-VF-RIBEIRATAINHAS-B-1880-1889_item1/P166.html
>
> Would like to find his immigration records to verify his birth place but 
> have not been able to yet. 
>
> *Children*
> Antone Lawrence 1913
> Joseph Lawrence 3 Jun 1916 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
> Frank Lawrence 18 Sep 1923 Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Todd Brown
>
>

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