Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros from mainland to Madeira to Sao Miguel
Yes, same as doing research for birth (baptism), marriage, and death. You need to know the church. Just about everything in Europe is organized on the town level. So if you don't have your freguesia (village) on Sao Miguel, you won't be doing much research. You can enjoy the sights, food, and culture of the island! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:18 PM Pete Jollymour <3apet...@gmail.com> wrote: > So I would have to know which church, or churches, to ask? > > Pete > > On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > There are no census records for the Azores. > > Each individual church made confession rolls. The priest went from house > to house (before Easter, I believe) and listed everyone and their ages. So > it functions like a census. Very few are online. Some are on the CCA site > and other are scattered across private web sites. There's not a central > location for them. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:53 PM Pete Jollymour <3apet...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am wondering if there is a way to access census records for Sao Miguel >> in the 1800s ? The goal is to find home addresses for some ancestors so >> that we can see these places when we are there in November. >> Thanks >> >> Pete >> >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Repost for Celito Medeiros, celitofmedeiros at gmail.com >> >> >> I'm just curious about the Medeiros Family History. I was a friend of >> José Antonio Gonçalves, from Madeira Island, recently deceased journalist, >> whose portrait I painted and was invited to exhibitions and TV program of >> his professional line. I was in the places of Portugal where this >> genealogical tree begins with Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros (1383), this Family >> Medeiros is natural of the place of Medeiros, in the parish of Vila Chã, in >> the Municipality of Montalegre, district of Vila Real, province of Trás- >> os-Montes between Chaves and Braga, 16 km from the border with Spain, on >> the edge of the Barroso mountains, the province is called >> 'behind-the-hills' in the far north of the Portuguese mainland. The parish >> comprises: Castanheira, Firvidas, Gralhos, Medeiros, Peirezes, Penedones, >> São Vicente, Travassos de Chã and Trogueda. He took over the mayor of Évora. >> >> >> >> 1420-1450 - James Guill lists the names of several heads of families in >> the Madeira archipelago, among which is Rui Vaz de Medeiros. Rui Vaz de >> Medeiros, who lived in the time of Captain Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros, was a >> native of Ponte de Lima, Guimarães region, Portugal, fled his father's >> house and went first to Madeira during the first colonization, where he >> married D. Ana (or Mecia) Gonçalves de Mendonça, a daughter of a noble >> citizen, named Jorge de Mendonça. It had sesmaria in Tabua and left >> generation in this parish Ponta do Sol and Funchal, with good connections >> of blood. He then moved with his family to the Azores, having settled on >> the island of São Miguel. >> >> >> >> My ancestors arriving in BRAZIL. >> >> * 1753-Date of the birth of Manoel Jorge de Medeiros, native of Faial >> Island, parish of Cedros, son of Maria do Rosario de Medeiros and Antonio >> Jorge Ferreira. Manoel Jorge de Medeiros emigrated to Brazil where he >> formed a family in the south of Minas Gerais, creating the Medeiros Branch, >> in the city of Passos, Minas Gerais. Then some went to the North and others >> to the South of Brazil in the States of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do >> Sul, then to Paraná. >> >> >> >> General João Nepomuceno de Medeiros Mallet, was born in Bagé, Rio Grande >> do Sul on May 16, 1840 - died in Rio de Janeiro, December 12, 1907). He was >> Governor of Mato Grosso and Ceará. Minister of War of Brazil >> >> 1898-1902. >> >> >> >> General Octavio Aguiar de Medeiros was born in Rio de Janeiro in 1922, >> from the new immigration and died in Brasília, September 5, 2005. He was a >> general of the Brazilian Army and SNI's Chief of the Brazilian General >> Figueiredo's Presidency. >> >> >> >> Noé Nunes de Medeiros, was born in 1927, was a politician and farmer of >> the Agribusiness, in the Municipality of S. Miguel do Iguaçu (due to the >> origin in the Island of S. Miguel, in the Azores), died in an accident in >> the Farm in 1971 with only 44 years, I am your son Celito Freitas de >> Medeiros, of this life (1951), with connections of the history of the >> immigrants to the USA of 1926, as I already mentioned (reality or >> fiction?). In addition, in addition to books in Brazil, there is a >> trilingual (Portuguese - English - Spanish) fiction: The Earth Watchers >> (AMAZON). >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros from mainland to Madeira to Sao Miguel
So I would have to know which church, or churches, to ask? Pete > On Aug 27, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > There are no census records for the Azores. > > Each individual church made confession rolls. The priest went from house to > house (before Easter, I believe) and listed everyone and their ages. So it > functions like a census. Very few are online. Some are on the CCA site and > other are scattered across private web sites. There's not a central location > for them. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:53 PM Pete Jollymour <3apet...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I am wondering if there is a way to access census records for Sao Miguel in >> the 1800s ? The goal is to find home addresses for some ancestors so that we >> can see these places when we are there in November. >> Thanks >> >> Pete >> >>> On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Repost for Celito Medeiros, celitofmedeiros at gmail.com >>> >>> I'm just curious about the Medeiros Family History. I was a friend of José >>> Antonio Gonçalves, from Madeira Island, recently deceased journalist, whose >>> portrait I painted and was invited to exhibitions and TV program of his >>> professional line. I was in the places of Portugal where this genealogical >>> tree begins with Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros (1383), this Family Medeiros is >>> natural of the place of Medeiros, in the parish of Vila Chã, in the >>> Municipality of Montalegre, district of Vila Real, province of Trás- >>> os-Montes between Chaves and Braga, 16 km from the border with Spain, on >>> the edge of the Barroso mountains, the province is called >>> 'behind-the-hills' in the far north of the Portuguese mainland. The parish >>> comprises: Castanheira, Firvidas, Gralhos, Medeiros, Peirezes, Penedones, >>> São Vicente, Travassos de Chã and Trogueda. He took over the mayor of Évora. >>> >>> 1420-1450 - James Guill lists the names of several heads of families in the >>> Madeira archipelago, among which is Rui Vaz de Medeiros. Rui Vaz de >>> Medeiros, who lived in the time of Captain Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros, was a >>> native of Ponte de Lima, Guimarães region, Portugal, fled his father's >>> house and went first to Madeira during the first colonization, where he >>> married D. Ana (or Mecia) Gonçalves de Mendonça, a daughter of a noble >>> citizen, named Jorge de Mendonça. It had sesmaria in Tabua and left >>> generation in this parish Ponta do Sol and Funchal, with good connections >>> of blood. He then moved with his family to the Azores, having settled on >>> the island of São Miguel. >>> >>> My ancestors arriving in BRAZIL. >>> * 1753-Date of the birth of Manoel Jorge de Medeiros, native of Faial >>> Island, parish of Cedros, son of Maria do Rosario de Medeiros and Antonio >>> Jorge Ferreira. Manoel Jorge de Medeiros emigrated to Brazil where he >>> formed a family in the south of Minas Gerais, creating the Medeiros Branch, >>> in the city of Passos, Minas Gerais. Then some went to the North and others >>> to the South of Brazil in the States of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do >>> Sul, then to Paraná. >>> >>> General João Nepomuceno de Medeiros Mallet, was born in Bagé, Rio Grande do >>> Sul on May 16, 1840 - died in Rio de Janeiro, December 12, 1907). He was >>> Governor of Mato Grosso and Ceará. Minister of War of Brazil >>> 1898-1902. >>> >>> General Octavio Aguiar de Medeiros was born in Rio de Janeiro in 1922, from >>> the new immigration and died in Brasília, September 5, 2005. He was a >>> general of the Brazilian Army and SNI's Chief of the Brazilian General >>> Figueiredo's Presidency. >>> >>> Noé Nunes de Medeiros, was born in 1927, was a politician and farmer of the >>> Agribusiness, in the Municipality of S. Miguel do Iguaçu (due to the origin >>> in the Island of S. Miguel, in the Azores), died in an accident in the Farm >>> in 1971 with only 44 years, I am your son Celito Freitas de Medeiros, of >>> this life (1951), with connections of the history of the immigrants to the >>> USA of 1926, as I already mentioned (reality or fiction?). In addition, in >>> addition to books in Brazil, there is a trilingual (Portuguese - English - >>> Spanish) fiction: The Earth Watchers (AMAZON). >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros from mainland to Madeira to Sao Miguel
There are no census records for the Azores. Each individual church made confession rolls. The priest went from house to house (before Easter, I believe) and listed everyone and their ages. So it functions like a census. Very few are online. Some are on the CCA site and other are scattered across private web sites. There's not a central location for them. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 7:53 PM Pete Jollymour <3apet...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am wondering if there is a way to access census records for Sao Miguel > in the 1800s ? The goal is to find home addresses for some ancestors so > that we can see these places when we are there in November. > Thanks > > Pete > > On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Repost for Celito Medeiros, celitofmedeiros at gmail.com > > > I'm just curious about the Medeiros Family History. I was a friend of José > Antonio Gonçalves, from Madeira Island, recently deceased journalist, whose > portrait I painted and was invited to exhibitions and TV program of his > professional line. I was in the places of Portugal where this genealogical > tree begins with Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros (1383), this Family Medeiros is > natural of the place of Medeiros, in the parish of Vila Chã, in the > Municipality of Montalegre, district of Vila Real, province of Trás- > os-Montes between Chaves and Braga, 16 km from the border with Spain, on > the edge of the Barroso mountains, the province is called > 'behind-the-hills' in the far north of the Portuguese mainland. The parish > comprises: Castanheira, Firvidas, Gralhos, Medeiros, Peirezes, Penedones, > São Vicente, Travassos de Chã and Trogueda. He took over the mayor of Évora. > > > > 1420-1450 - James Guill lists the names of several heads of families in > the Madeira archipelago, among which is Rui Vaz de Medeiros. Rui Vaz de > Medeiros, who lived in the time of Captain Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros, was a > native of Ponte de Lima, Guimarães region, Portugal, fled his father's > house and went first to Madeira during the first colonization, where he > married D. Ana (or Mecia) Gonçalves de Mendonça, a daughter of a noble > citizen, named Jorge de Mendonça. It had sesmaria in Tabua and left > generation in this parish Ponta do Sol and Funchal, with good connections > of blood. He then moved with his family to the Azores, having settled on > the island of São Miguel. > > > > My ancestors arriving in BRAZIL. > > * 1753-Date of the birth of Manoel Jorge de Medeiros, native of Faial > Island, parish of Cedros, son of Maria do Rosario de Medeiros and Antonio > Jorge Ferreira. Manoel Jorge de Medeiros emigrated to Brazil where he > formed a family in the south of Minas Gerais, creating the Medeiros Branch, > in the city of Passos, Minas Gerais. Then some went to the North and others > to the South of Brazil in the States of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do > Sul, then to Paraná. > > > > General João Nepomuceno de Medeiros Mallet, was born in Bagé, Rio Grande > do Sul on May 16, 1840 - died in Rio de Janeiro, December 12, 1907). He was > Governor of Mato Grosso and Ceará. Minister of War of Brazil > > 1898-1902. > > > > General Octavio Aguiar de Medeiros was born in Rio de Janeiro in 1922, > from the new immigration and died in Brasília, September 5, 2005. He was a > general of the Brazilian Army and SNI's Chief of the Brazilian General > Figueiredo's Presidency. > > > > Noé Nunes de Medeiros, was born in 1927, was a politician and farmer of > the Agribusiness, in the Municipality of S. Miguel do Iguaçu (due to the > origin in the Island of S. Miguel, in the Azores), died in an accident in > the Farm in 1971 with only 44 years, I am your son Celito Freitas de > Medeiros, of this life (1951), with connections of the history of the > immigrants to the USA of 1926, as I already mentioned (reality or > fiction?). In addition, in addition to books in Brazil, there is a > trilingual (Portuguese - English - Spanish) fiction: The Earth Watchers > (AMAZON). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros from mainland to Madeira to Sao Miguel
Repost for Celito Medeiros, celitofmedeiros at gmail.com I'm just curious about the Medeiros Family History. I was a friend of José Antonio Gonçalves, from Madeira Island, recently deceased journalist, whose portrait I painted and was invited to exhibitions and TV program of his professional line. I was in the places of Portugal where this genealogical tree begins with Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros (1383), this Family Medeiros is natural of the place of Medeiros, in the parish of Vila Chã, in the Municipality of Montalegre, district of Vila Real, province of Trás- os-Montes between Chaves and Braga, 16 km from the border with Spain, on the edge of the Barroso mountains, the province is called 'behind-the-hills' in the far north of the Portuguese mainland. The parish comprises: Castanheira, Firvidas, Gralhos, Medeiros, Peirezes, Penedones, São Vicente, Travassos de Chã and Trogueda. He took over the mayor of Évora. 1420-1450 - James Guill lists the names of several heads of families in the Madeira archipelago, among which is Rui Vaz de Medeiros. Rui Vaz de Medeiros, who lived in the time of Captain Rui Gonçalves de Medeiros, was a native of Ponte de Lima, Guimarães region, Portugal, fled his father's house and went first to Madeira during the first colonization, where he married D. Ana (or Mecia) Gonçalves de Mendonça, a daughter of a noble citizen, named Jorge de Mendonça. It had sesmaria in Tabua and left generation in this parish Ponta do Sol and Funchal, with good connections of blood. He then moved with his family to the Azores, having settled on the island of São Miguel. My ancestors arriving in BRAZIL. * 1753-Date of the birth of Manoel Jorge de Medeiros, native of Faial Island, parish of Cedros, son of Maria do Rosario de Medeiros and Antonio Jorge Ferreira. Manoel Jorge de Medeiros emigrated to Brazil where he formed a family in the south of Minas Gerais, creating the Medeiros Branch, in the city of Passos, Minas Gerais. Then some went to the North and others to the South of Brazil in the States of Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul, then to Paraná. General João Nepomuceno de Medeiros Mallet, was born in Bagé, Rio Grande do Sul on May 16, 1840 - died in Rio de Janeiro, December 12, 1907). He was Governor of Mato Grosso and Ceará. Minister of War of Brazil 1898-1902. General Octavio Aguiar de Medeiros was born in Rio de Janeiro in 1922, from the new immigration and died in Brasília, September 5, 2005. He was a general of the Brazilian Army and SNI's Chief of the Brazilian General Figueiredo's Presidency. Noé Nunes de Medeiros, was born in 1927, was a politician and farmer of the Agribusiness, in the Municipality of S. Miguel do Iguaçu (due to the origin in the Island of S. Miguel, in the Azores), died in an accident in the Farm in 1971 with only 44 years, I am your son Celito Freitas de Medeiros, of this life (1951), with connections of the history of the immigrants to the USA of 1926, as I already mentioned (reality or fiction?). In addition, in addition to books in Brazil, there is a trilingual (Portuguese - English - Spanish) fiction: The Earth Watchers (AMAZON). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sears/Soares from Pico to Merced, California married Freitas Caldeira from Flores
It's in the thread about transferring. It's step 5. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:56 AM Lori Rose wrote: > Cheri, I just transferred my Ancestry data to FTDNA and looked for the > Azores Project, but don't see it listed in the projects list. Can you let > me know where to join? > > On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:28:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Gwen, You need to transfer to FTDNA where we have the Azores DNA Project, >> or better yet, test on FTDNA's chip (Ancestry has under 200,000 family >> markers whereas FTDNA tests for 700,000 markers). And FTDNA is having a >> sale this week. Rick Pimentel, my co-admin, will post the direct link to >> order. If you want to transfer, I can get you that information in a day. >> >> Also, I don't see a lot of U.S. based research mentioned in your post. >> I'm hoping someone can post the link from the Azores GenWeb for Gwen. >> >> I'm not at home and right now I am not on my computer, so I am asking >> others to help out by providing the links I've mentioned. >> Cheri Mello, FTDNA Administrator >> >> On Aug 26, 2018 9:17 AM, "Gwen Caldeira" <123ca...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> John: thanks for the response. You had some contact with my brother >>> Greg Caldeira in 2013 but he kind of dropped researching; he did find a >>> local paper article from 1921 about the death of our grandfather Joseph >>> Freitas Caldeira Sr's train-car accident which was quite enlightening but >>> gave us no new names of possible sibs to give us Caldeira family info. Greg >>> did visit Flores 3 yrs ago, met a cousin from JFC's side of the family and >>> got some info on cousins (mostly in Brazil as it turns out) but not about >>> any sibs who actually lived in the US and may have had kids who would be >>> our cousins. I did unearth a trove of photos -- most looked to be from >>> 1920-30s -- our Nana left us when she died in 1965 that points to a close >>> relationship between JFC Sr with at least one brother (Jao or John we >>> think), and we have a story of questionable reliability that JFC Sr may >>> have 2 or 3 sisters he lived with in the US in the early 1900s but nothing >>> about their married names or any offspring who'd be cousins. But we've got >>> nothing really about Nana Sears/Soares Caldeira's real last name (or her >>> real first name...she was variously referred to as Mary, Maria, and >>> Mariann) and whether she did/didn't have a brother living in the US (photo >>> with the two, but he could have been visiting from the Azores, not here in >>> the US). Most photos had no names of who was in the pictures; my attempt >>> at trying to trace people through the studio names on some of the portrait >>> frames was a dead end since they were so old. >>> >>> So I'm trying to pick up on my Dad's parents and grandparents because we >>> have so few clues about who they were and which if any siblings might have >>> come to the US and would be our 2nd or 3rd cousins. My DNA points toward a >>> large Italian/Greek and Irish connection that would have to be from my >>> paternal grandparents or ggp generations and not really far back, something >>> intriguing and unexpected. Beyond trying to get in touch with some of the >>> names the DNA matches gave me, I'm lost. Greg did find the ship Joseph >>> Freitas Caldeira Sr arrived on in early 1900s in Providence but evidently >>> he came alone (or with a relative with a different surname). We know some >>> first cousins (some we don't due to alienation between Dad and 2 sisters) >>> but even they don't know any names beyond Nana and our grandfather. One >>> first cousin is having her DNA done which may give us some help refining >>> DNA matches to contactbut I'm finding people don't check their >>> Ancestry.com accounts for messages very often so getting replies back is >>> slow. I've tried to find my Nana Sears/Soares-Caldeira on ship manifest >>> lists with variations of first and last names, but so far no luck. Because >>> there's so much Italian/Greek DNA in my DNA profile, I'm wondering if our >>> assumption "Mary Sears" had to be "Mary Soares" isn't a good one, but >>> then I don't what other names or ship manifest lists to try. I'm hoping >>> her 1965 death cert lists her parents names and maybe which island she >>> debarked from. We're believe my Nana was never naturalized, and census data >>> just says "Mary Caldeira" though there could be a 1910 (pre-marriage) >>> census she appears on, but under what name and where (we think she lived in >>> Idaho after emigrating but are unsure when she came to the SF area)? >>> >>> The "Joseph Freitas from Craterville:" gave me a chuckle. We'd always >>> thought more volcano or cauldron, a little more dignified than >>> "Craterville." We know from JFC Sr.'s death cert his father went by 'Frank >>> Freitas Caldeira' which
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sears/Soares from Pico to Merced, California married Freitas Caldeira from Flores
Cheri, I just transferred my Ancestry data to FTDNA and looked for the Azores Project, but don't see it listed in the projects list. Can you let me know where to join? On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:28:26 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Gwen, You need to transfer to FTDNA where we have the Azores DNA Project, > or better yet, test on FTDNA's chip (Ancestry has under 200,000 family > markers whereas FTDNA tests for 700,000 markers). And FTDNA is having a > sale this week. Rick Pimentel, my co-admin, will post the direct link to > order. If you want to transfer, I can get you that information in a day. > > Also, I don't see a lot of U.S. based research mentioned in your post. I'm > hoping someone can post the link from the Azores GenWeb for Gwen. > > I'm not at home and right now I am not on my computer, so I am asking > others to help out by providing the links I've mentioned. > Cheri Mello, FTDNA Administrator > > On Aug 26, 2018 9:17 AM, "Gwen Caldeira" <123ca...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> John: thanks for the response. You had some contact with my brother >> Greg Caldeira in 2013 but he kind of dropped researching; he did find a >> local paper article from 1921 about the death of our grandfather Joseph >> Freitas Caldeira Sr's train-car accident which was quite enlightening but >> gave us no new names of possible sibs to give us Caldeira family info. Greg >> did visit Flores 3 yrs ago, met a cousin from JFC's side of the family and >> got some info on cousins (mostly in Brazil as it turns out) but not about >> any sibs who actually lived in the US and may have had kids who would be >> our cousins. I did unearth a trove of photos -- most looked to be from >> 1920-30s -- our Nana left us when she died in 1965 that points to a close >> relationship between JFC Sr with at least one brother (Jao or John we >> think), and we have a story of questionable reliability that JFC Sr may >> have 2 or 3 sisters he lived with in the US in the early 1900s but nothing >> about their married names or any offspring who'd be cousins. But we've got >> nothing really about Nana Sears/Soares Caldeira's real last name (or her >> real first name...she was variously referred to as Mary, Maria, and >> Mariann) and whether she did/didn't have a brother living in the US (photo >> with the two, but he could have been visiting from the Azores, not here in >> the US). Most photos had no names of who was in the pictures; my attempt >> at trying to trace people through the studio names on some of the portrait >> frames was a dead end since they were so old. >> >> So I'm trying to pick up on my Dad's parents and grandparents because we >> have so few clues about who they were and which if any siblings might have >> come to the US and would be our 2nd or 3rd cousins. My DNA points toward a >> large Italian/Greek and Irish connection that would have to be from my >> paternal grandparents or ggp generations and not really far back, something >> intriguing and unexpected. Beyond trying to get in touch with some of the >> names the DNA matches gave me, I'm lost. Greg did find the ship Joseph >> Freitas Caldeira Sr arrived on in early 1900s in Providence but evidently >> he came alone (or with a relative with a different surname). We know some >> first cousins (some we don't due to alienation between Dad and 2 sisters) >> but even they don't know any names beyond Nana and our grandfather. One >> first cousin is having her DNA done which may give us some help refining >> DNA matches to contactbut I'm finding people don't check their >> Ancestry.com accounts for messages very often so getting replies back is >> slow. I've tried to find my Nana Sears/Soares-Caldeira on ship manifest >> lists with variations of first and last names, but so far no luck. Because >> there's so much Italian/Greek DNA in my DNA profile, I'm wondering if our >> assumption "Mary Sears" had to be "Mary Soares" isn't a good one, but >> then I don't what other names or ship manifest lists to try. I'm hoping >> her 1965 death cert lists her parents names and maybe which island she >> debarked from. We're believe my Nana was never naturalized, and census data >> just says "Mary Caldeira" though there could be a 1910 (pre-marriage) >> census she appears on, but under what name and where (we think she lived in >> Idaho after emigrating but are unsure when she came to the SF area)? >> >> The "Joseph Freitas from Craterville:" gave me a chuckle. We'd always >> thought more volcano or cauldron, a little more dignified than >> "Craterville." We know from JFC Sr.'s death cert his father went by 'Frank >> Freitas Caldeira' which isn't the usual Portuguese linguistic convention, >> which would be 'mother's surname/father's surname' so that's odd. But we >> know it's possible that American cousins might be using 'Freitas' instead >> of 'Caldeira' or even some over name if JFC Sr's
[AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring Ancestry DNA to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)
1) Download the raw data from Ancestry DNA: https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Downloading-Raw-DNA-Data-1460089696533 2) While waiting for the file to be compiled and emailed, create an account on FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer 3) Download the raw data file that is in the email. Hopefully, it downloads to the Download folder or the Desktop. 4) AncestryDNA changed their chip again and it's incompatible. Use this converter tool: http://www.mapmy23.com/tools/ancestry_ftdna_fix.php 5) Upload the raw data to the FTDNA page. Then join the Azores DNA project. i) Log into the FTDNA page with the kit number and password. ii) Across the top is says: myFTDNA, DNA Tests, ProjectsPoint at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click "Join a project." iii) If the Azores Islands appears on the top, click the link and scroll down to the JOIN button at the end. iv) If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says "Search by Surname" and type: azores. v) When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions. Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azores DNA Project Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amaranté Family of Manadas, Sao Jarge
Tony A, You also need to transfer your DNA to Family Tree DNA (FTDNA). Or test on FTDNA;s chip/platform of 700,000 locations (versus Ancestry's 200,000). FTDNA is having a sale through Aug. 31st: https://goo.gl/vTndP3 Only about 20% of people who DNA test upload to GedMatch. Or that used to be the statistic. Since law enforcement (in America at least) has figured out how to use GedMatch to solve criminal cases, some won't upload to GedMatch as they only want their DNA used for genealogy. So putting it out on GedMatch and trying to entice the other 80% to do sowell, you are missing a huge audience. If you want to transfer your Ancestry DNA to FTDNA, I will start a separate post. I told Gwen in another post that I would post the directions. Cheri On Aug 27, 2018 8:58 AM, "Azores Genealogy group" wrote: > I'm looking for information about my Amaranté ancestry from Manadas, Sao > Jorge. > > To the best of my understanding, I believe my Amaranté ancestry most > likely originates from the Amarante family in Velas and starting with > a Gonçalo de Amaranté who married Francisca de Oliveira. I have no > information on the date of this marriage but it was probably around 1580s. > Again, based on no evidence, I would suggest this Gonçalo was possibly born > circa 1560s and was the son of Gonçalo de Amaranté. > > > > Gonçalo de Amaranté who married Francisca de Oliveira had a son Jorge de > Oliviera Amaranté who married Iria Vieira Azevedo and they had at least six > children, five sons and a daughter. Again, without clear evidence, I > believe one of these sons had a relationship with a woman by the name of > Catarina Simao (my 7th Great grandmother) and that from this relationship > Maira de Amaranté was born. While Maira de Amaranté's father is unknown > there is very strong evidence to suggest there is a connection to the > Amarante family in Velas, with several of Maria's children's godparents > being from or connected to the Amarante family in Velas. > > > Does any of the above mean anything to anyone? > > > Also, just as a matter of interest, my DNA results are on Ancestry as > well on the GEDmatch DNA website. My GEDmatch kit number is A231342. > > > Drop me line if you think there is a match. > > > Cheers, Tony Amarant > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Assistance - Death Paschoal de Sousa Leal 25 July 1745(?)
Bill, Forgot to mention that I know Maria Jose Azevedo da Silveira. She is my 7th cousin being that her 5th great grandmother Ana de Oliveira and my 5th great grandfather Paschoal de Sousa Amarante were siblings. Maria and I have corresponded with each other and exchange information and ideas for years. She has been an absolute goldmine of information. She is brilliant! Regards Tony On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 7:34:24 AM UTC+10, Azores Genealogy group wrote: > > Looking for some assistance in translating the attached document. The > document is not available via CCA but rather through the Book of Obitos 1721 > to 1746 for the Church of Santa Barbara, Manadas, Sao Jorge, Azores via > the Sao Jorge Genealogy website image reference 004. Can anyone fill in the > blanks for correct any errors in my translation below? Thanks in advance, > Tony > > > On the twenty fifth day and of the twenty fourth day of the month of July > of the year of one thousand seven hundred and forty five of life > present with all the sacraments Paschoal de Sousa Leal, native and > parishioner of this Church Parish of the Martyr Santa Barbara town of > Manadas at the age of fifty six years more or less married with Maria > Pereira ___ ___ _ ___ _ ___ __ ___ __ > ___ twenty five masses one annual Rosary ___ shrouded in a habit of > picote __ ___ __ Francisco _ __ __ ___ scapular with all > __ __ ___ _ _ __ _ Church ___ __ > __ _ _ ___ __ _ __ month and _ > ut supra >___ Vicar Francisco Xavier Machado > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Amaranté Family of Manadas, Sao Jarge
I'm looking for information about my Amaranté ancestry from Manadas, Sao Jorge. To the best of my understanding, I believe my Amaranté ancestry most likely originates from the Amarante family in Velas and starting with a Gonçalo de Amaranté who married Francisca de Oliveira. I have no information on the date of this marriage but it was probably around 1580s. Again, based on no evidence, I would suggest this Gonçalo was possibly born circa 1560s and was the son of Gonçalo de Amaranté. Gonçalo de Amaranté who married Francisca de Oliveira had a son Jorge de Oliviera Amaranté who married Iria Vieira Azevedo and they had at least six children, five sons and a daughter. Again, without clear evidence, I believe one of these sons had a relationship with a woman by the name of Catarina Simao (my 7th Great grandmother) and that from this relationship Maira de Amaranté was born. While Maira de Amaranté's father is unknown there is very strong evidence to suggest there is a connection to the Amarante family in Velas, with several of Maria's children's godparents being from or connected to the Amarante family in Velas. Does any of the above mean anything to anyone? Also, just as a matter of interest, my DNA results are on Ancestry as well on the GEDmatch DNA website. My GEDmatch kit number is A231342. Drop me line if you think there is a match. Cheers, Tony Amarant -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
