Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Benevides, Teves, Oliveira Pimentel (Sao Miguel island maybe; no time period)

[Cheri Mello]

Bottom right: Died 2 March 1751
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM Lisa S  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I just found the obituary of Teresa de Teves (widow of Matheus de
> Benevides) and the date looks like it is in March to me (instead of June),
> 6 March 1751.  Here is the direct link:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778_item1/P86.html
>
>
> It looks like you are descended through her daughter Teresa de Teves, and
> I am descended through her sister Barbara de Teves.
>
> I would love to know the stories of the de Teves that you know...  Please
> let me know if you would like to collaborate.
> :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Lisa
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Repost for John C, itisme740 at aol.com
>>
>> <> Teve. I am connected to them through their daughter Teresa Teve who married
>> Manuel Oliviera Pimentel. Does anyone have anything further on them such as
>> their parents? The Teve/Teves family has quite a background on the island
>> and I am trying to connect them to past generations. Thanks>>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito

[Lisa S]

Hi Ricardo,

I see that you posted this in 2014, but if you are still researching this 
line I would like to connect with you.  I am researching José Carvalho de 
Mello in Santo António on São Miguel, as that is where his wife is from, 
and that seems to be where he lived.  It seems there is more than one José 
Carvalho de Mello in this time period (est. 1763-1833), and I have seen 
that one of the José Carvalho de Mellos is a natural of the *island of 
Santa Maria*.  I have seen wives names documented as Anna de Jesus, Anna 
Maria, and Maria de Jesus.  I THINK that Anna de Jesus and Anna Maria are 
the same person, and that Maria de Jesus is a different person. 

Please let me know if you would like to connect.

Kind Regards,
Lisa


On Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:14:50 AM UTC-6, rchaves wrote:
>
> Hello researchers, 
>
> I would like to know if anyone in the group is researching CARVALHO in 
> Santa Maria. I am connected to one of the branches of these families. If 
> anyone is and already had a connection to them prior 1842 and may be 
> connected to Antonio Joaquim de Carvalho married to Umbelina Maria de 
> Chaves, from Nossa Senhora da Gloria, Santo Espirito, church of Nossa 
> Senhora da Purificacao, and would like to share information with me, please 
> send me an email.
>
> I don't have dates, I just took some notes from one of their children who 
> is my tetravo Bernardino. I have recently researched marriages from 1820 to 
> 1850 and I couldn't find them. I was a bit in a hurry and I may have 
> skipped a name or two, I will check the books again soon, hopefully!
>
> Thank you so much
> -- 
> Ricardo Chaves
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Benevides, Teves, Oliveira Pimentel (Sao Miguel island maybe; no time period)

[Lisa S]

Hello everyone,

I just found the obituary of Teresa de Teves (widow of Matheus de 
Benevides) and the date looks like it is in March to me (instead of June), 
6 March 1751.  Here is the direct link:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-O-1713-1778_item1/P86.html


It looks like you are descended through her daughter Teresa de Teves, and I 
am descended through her sister Barbara de Teves.

I would love to know the stories of the de Teves that you know...  Please 
let me know if you would like to collaborate.
:)

Kind regards,
Lisa


On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for John C, itisme740 at aol.com
>
> < Teve. I am connected to them through their daughter Teresa Teve who married 
> Manuel Oliviera Pimentel. Does anyone have anything further on them such as 
> their parents? The Teve/Teves family has quite a background on the island 
> and I am trying to connect them to past generations. Thanks>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 140th anniversary of Portuguese Immigration to Hawaii

[Pete Jollymour]

Mahalo

Pete

> On Sep 26, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> (Cross posted to IslandRoutes and Azores lists)
> An article appeared in the Portuguese American Journal about the 140th 
> Anniversary of the Portuguese migration to Hawaii. The article describes some 
> of the activities planned: https://goo.gl/U1XyHN
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difficulty finding marriage records: SANTO ANTÓNIO além Capelas freguesia on São Miguel, and LAGOA

[Lisa S]

Thank you so much for this John !!!  I really do appreciate it !!!

Does this mean that we are cousins?  :)

FYI, that other couple (*António de Medeiros Maura* and *Joanna Maria) *are 
also 
related to this couple, I just don't know through whom yet.  Most probably 
it is though António de Medeiros Maura since he is also a natural of Santo 
António.  I am guessing that he may be the brother of Joana Maria de 
Medeiros.  I have a record for an António born 26 October 1753 to Thomé de 
Mello and Bárbara de *Viveiros*, and I suspect that this MAY be him, but I 
do not have proof of this.  Here is that record:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1752-1770/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-B-1752-1770_item1/P12.html

Do you have any thoughts on this?

Kind Regards,
Lisa


On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 2:34:52 PM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote:
>
> 24 Mai.1775*FRANCISCO DE VIVEIROS REGO*, filho de João de Viveiros 
> Velho e de Isabel Antónia de Viveiros, freg.*s* de Santo António, c. c. 
> *JOANA 
> MARIA DE MEDEIROS*, filha de Tomé Álvares de Melo e de Bárbara de 
> Medeiros, freg.*s* da paroquial de Santo António.
>
> Test.*as*: P.*e* Sebastião Manuel de Melo e P.*e* 
> Manuel Inácio Pacheco, tes.º, m.*res* em Santo António.
>
> Assento p.º Vig.º Francisco da Ponte Tavares.
> Good luck!
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 11:53:56 AM EDT, Lisa S <
> cecelia.c...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have really been having some difficulty in finding some marriage records 
> in the Santo António além Capelas freguesia on the island of São Miguel, 
> and also the Lagoa area.  From what I have seen so far in the Santo António 
> freguesia, the priest(s) was/were not always consistent with the names they 
> used to document the parishoners.  I don't know if this means that in fact 
> the parishoners had long names, and that when they stated them to the 
> priest, the priest only wrote down some of them, or if the parishoners 
> sometimes just gave the priest portions of their names.
>
> The road blocks that I have hit in getting this section of my tree higher:
>
> *1.  *
> I cannot find the marriage record for the parents of Francisco de Medeiros 
> Maura.  In the birth records of some of Francisco's children I have seen 
> his name documented sometimes as *Francisco de Medeiros Maura*, and 
> sometimes *Francisco de Medeiros Pimentel*.  The names of his parents 
> (the grandparents) have stayed constant in those records that I have found, 
> and their names are *António de Medeiros Maura* and *Joanna Maria*, *António 
> is a natural of Santo António and Joanna Maria is a natural of Lagoa (Nossa 
> Senhora do Rosario),* but I have not been able to find their marriage 
> record.  I have checked Santo António, but have not found it there.  I have 
> also checked Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa, but did not find it there 
> either.  It's possible that I could have missed it, or that Joanna Maria's 
> parents moved to a different freguesia after her birth, and that they were 
> then married in that new freguesia.  
>
> The obituary for Joanna Maria 
> 30 September 1830 - 70 years old more or less
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1830-1860/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1830-1860_item1/P4.html
>
> The obituary for António de Medeiros Maura
> 29 September 1831 - 80 years old more or less
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1830-1860/SMG-PD-SANTOANTONIO-O-1830-1860_item1/P45.html
>
> I believe their son Francisco was born 1 August 1789, so their marriage 
> would have happened before that date.  I found 2 siblings born AFTER that 
> date in Santo António:  João in 1793, and Margarida in 1794, but no one 
> before 1789, so perhaps his parents lived in a different freguesia before 
> moving to Santo António?
>
> 2. 
> I am also having difficulty finding the marriage record for *Francisco de 
> Viveiros do Rego* and *Joanna de Medeiros*.  They are both naturals of 
> the Santo António além Capelas freguesia, so I believe the marriage should 
> have taken place there.  I estimate the marriage to have taken place around 
> the year 1767.
>
> I have seen the name of Francisco de Viveiros do Rego documented sometimes 
> as Francisco de Viveiros, and sometimes as Francisco de Medeiros do Rego, I 
> am not sure if this was a mistake or not since his wife Joanna has the 
> surname de Medeiros.
> He was born 9 February 1748.
>
> Joanna de Medeiros was born 20 January 1749.
>
>
> Is anyone else researching these two families, or does someone happen to 
> have an index with this information in it?  I would be very appreciative of 
> any help.
> Thank you very much and kind regards,
> Lisa
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] 140th anniversary of Portuguese Immigration to Hawaii

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to IslandRoutes and Azores lists)
An article appeared in the Portuguese American Journal about the 140th
Anniversary of the Portuguese migration to Hawaii. The article describes
some of the activities planned: https://goo.gl/U1XyHN
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese name

[Cheri Mello]

Gordon, since Jesse is English or American, search the CITCEM under Jacinto.
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:08 AM Joanne Mercier 
wrote:

> I know it as Jacintho since that was my grandfather’s name and he went by
> Jesse. João would translate to John and José to Joseph.
>
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
> On September 26, 2018 at 12:39:49 PM, Gordon soares (gws...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Would the English name Jesse be Jacinto, Joao, or Jose in Portuguese?
> I can’t find a Jesse in the CITEM site linked to his last name FERREIRA
> nor can I find him linked to his wife Maria De Conceicao. Under any of
> those names. He was born incognito but taken by the Ferreira’s.
> Gordon
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese name

[Joanne Mercier]

I know it as Jacintho since that was my grandfather’s name and he went by
Jesse. João would translate to John and José to Joseph.

Joanne Grota Mercier

On September 26, 2018 at 12:39:49 PM, Gordon soares (gws...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Would the English name Jesse be Jacinto, Joao, or Jose in Portuguese?
I can’t find a Jesse in the CITEM site linked to his last name FERREIRA nor
can I find him linked to his wife Maria De Conceicao. Under any of those
names. He was born incognito but taken by the Ferreira’s.
Gordon

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese name

[Gordon soares]

Would the English name Jesse be Jacinto, Joao, or Jose in Portuguese? 
I can’t find a Jesse in the CITEM site linked to his last name FERREIRA nor can 
I find him linked to his wife Maria De Conceicao. Under any of those names. He 
was born incognito but taken by the Ferreira’s. 
Gordon

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ten Reasons Why You May Be Disappointed With Your DNA Results

[Cheri Mello]

Leonard,

That's true as well, about ships from all over stopping in the Azores.
However, the biggest problem is that they don't have enough reference
samples in their database. FTDNA had only 25 samples at one point - and it
was to detect all 9 Azores, all 8 or 9 Cape Verde islands, the 2 Madeira
islands, Brazil and all its regions and Portugal and all its regions. 25
samples can't do that. I don't know how many samples FTDNA currently has in
the current ethnicity estimate. Maybe the next one will have more.

In the meantime, work your matches. That's where the meat of the DNA is.
The ethnicity estimates haven't even made it to side dish status yet.
Cheri Mello
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On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:28 AM Leonard Silva 
wrote:

> I was surprised at how little of my DNA was Iberian Peninsula, considering
> that my ancestors came from one tiny village on one small Island in the
> Azores (Covas, Graciosa).
> A genealogist explained to me that for thousands of years, ships from all
> over the world stopped in the Azores, thus influencing the DNA from that
> area.
>
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:07:37 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>>
>> Melody Lassalle does a lot of research of Azoreans to the Hawaiian
>> Islands. She has a blog where she shares a variety of research articles -
>> some are of general interest and aren't necessarily Portuguese-Hawaiian
>> based. Today, she blogged about some reasons people may be disappointed
>> with their DNA results:  https://goo.gl/hbZKNG
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ten Reasons Why You May Be Disappointed With Your DNA Results

[Leonard Silva]

I was surprised at how little of my DNA was Iberian Peninsula, considering 
that my ancestors came from one tiny village on one small Island in the 
Azores (Covas, Graciosa). 
A genealogist explained to me that for thousands of years, ships from all 
over the world stopped in the Azores, thus influencing the DNA from that 
area. 

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:07:37 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>
> Melody Lassalle does a lot of research of Azoreans to the Hawaiian 
> Islands. She has a blog where she shares a variety of research articles - 
> some are of general interest and aren't necessarily Portuguese-Hawaiian 
> based. Today, she blogged about some reasons people may be disappointed 
> with their DNA results:  https://goo.gl/hbZKNG 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading the name of the bride's mother from Altares marriage

[Gonçalo Marques]

Boa tarde,

I read "Antonia Hyronima" which would currently be Antónia Jerónima.
Literally I read
"... Mel Duarte de Sousa e de sua mer An
tonia Hyronima nral desta freguesia..."

Cheers
Gonçalo


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:45 PM  wrote:

> This is a link to the marriage of Manuel Machado Parreira and Rosa
> Joaquina in 1789 in Altares. I need help reading the name of the bride’s
> mother. The record is in the upper right-hand side of the page. Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P6.html
>
>
>
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>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading the name of the bride's mother from Altares marriage

[doreencaetano]

This is a link to the marriage of Manuel Machado Parreira and Rosa Joaquina in 
1789 in Altares. I need help reading the name of the bride’s mother. The record 
is in the upper right-hand side of the page. Thanks
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P6.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Ajuda- Marriage record help

[Joseph Mendonca]

AND! his son, grandchild & great-grandchild have that name either as a
middle name or surname!  LOL!

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:37 AM Joseph Mendonca 
wrote:

> Thanks JR!  I'm laughing even louder because I've been using those indexes
> in Fenais da Ajuda.  The priests there were pretty good about making them.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:48 AM JR  wrote:
>
>> It's Adriano Pacheco. How do I know? I cheated and looked him up. At the
>> end of the books are indexes for 1810-1836 and 1772-1810. That should make
>> you laugh.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1772-1810/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1772-1810_item1/P73.html
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:58:53 PM UTC-4, jemendonca642 wrote:
>>>
>>> Left side, 4th line from bottom.  I am unable to make out the groom's
>>> father's first name.
>>> *Amiro??* Pacheco &  Delfina do Couto.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1810-1836/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1810-1836_item1/P143.html
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Ajuda- Marriage record help

[Joseph Mendonca]

Thanks JR!  I'm laughing even louder because I've been using those indexes
in Fenais da Ajuda.  The priests there were pretty good about making them.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 12:48 AM JR  wrote:

> It's Adriano Pacheco. How do I know? I cheated and looked him up. At the
> end of the books are indexes for 1810-1836 and 1772-1810. That should make
> you laugh.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1772-1810/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1772-1810_item1/P73.html
>
> JR
>
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:58:53 PM UTC-4, jemendonca642 wrote:
>>
>> Left side, 4th line from bottom.  I am unable to make out the groom's
>> father's first name.
>> *Amiro??* Pacheco &  Delfina do Couto.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1810-1836/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1810-1836_item1/P143.html
>>
>> Thanks again.
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