Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
If you don't mind my asking, who is the ancestor that you are tracking that leads to Miguel de Paiva and Isabel Furtado? JR On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 2:34:26 PM UTC-5, fpimen...@gmail.com wrote: > > You guys are amazing. Thanks for the help! I see now that the mai threw me > off as it looks like a capital ‘m’ so I thought Maia, and Ponta is in lower > case and Garca is hard to see. Again thanks as I spent hours searching > Matriz and Maia! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
You guys are amazing. Thanks for the help! I see now that the mai threw me off as it looks like a capital ‘m’ so I thought Maia, and Ponta is in lower case and Garca is hard to see. Again thanks as I spent hours searching Matriz and Maia! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
Too quick with the mouse. Miguel de Paiva and Apolonia de Andrade married on Dec 22- 1692, not 1694. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P69.html Test, Manoel de Oliveira and Antonio de Matos JR On Wednesday, January 30, 2019 at 12:09:39 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: > > Yes, Bill is right. It says > Margarida, fa. de Miguel de Payva e de > Izabel Furtada, natural o pai de desta Villa (Vila Franca, Matriz) e Mai > natural de Ponta da Garca e moradores na Ribeira Sequa desta Villa (Vila > Franca, Matriz)< > > This couple married in Ponta Garca, July 12- 1694; The old microfilm had > this period all out of order. It was apparent someone dropped the pages and > reinserted them in wrong order. Now the digital records have been corrected. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P31.html > > Test Manoel de Oliveira, Joao Gonsalves; Miguel de Paiva was viuvo, > morador na freg. de Sao Miguel de Vila Franca; but it does not say from > whom. I did search and conclude that he was first married to Apolonia de > Andrade, in Matriz de Vila Franca, July 12- 1694. Apolonia died April 26- > 1694, which helps confirm we have the right record for Miguel's first > marriage. So Miguel is filho de Manoel de Paiva and Maria Ferreira who > married in Matriz de Vila Franca, circa 1660. These records are missing, > probably due to deterioration of records. Isabel Furtado is filha de Manoel > de Almeida and Maria Jorge natives of Ponta Garca, also unavailable. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P69.html > > Test, Manoel de Oliveira and Antonio de Matos > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1673-1703/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1673-1703_item1/P92.html > > Apolonia de Andrade, page 102 verso, faleceu, 26, April, 1694, mulher de > Miguel de Paiva, nao fez testamento. > > Hope this helps. > > JR > > On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 10:15:40 PM UTC-5, bsei...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> I'm afraid I don't see Maia. I think the father is from Vila Franca. >> I see o pai natural desta villa e a mãe natural da Ponta ??? (I believe JR >> is correct, I'm just having a hard time to make what I see to say >> "Garça". It does say they are residents of Ribeira Sequa (Seca) which as >> JR and Cheri stated is part of this parish but became its own parish in >> 2002. >> >> Bill Seidler >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help
Yes, Bill is right. It says > Margarida, fa. de Miguel de Payva e de Izabel Furtada, natural o pai de desta Villa (Vila Franca, Matriz) e Mai natural de Ponta da Garca e moradores na Ribeira Sequa desta Villa (Vila Franca, Matriz)< This couple married in Ponta Garca, July 12- 1694; The old microfilm had this period all out of order. It was apparent someone dropped the pages and reinserted them in wrong order. Now the digital records have been corrected. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-C-1675-1749_item1/P31.html Test Manoel de Oliveira, Joao Gonsalves; Miguel de Paiva was viuvo, morador na freg. de Sao Miguel de Vila Franca; but it does not say from whom. I did search and conclude that he was first married to Apolonia de Andrade, in Matriz de Vila Franca, July 12- 1694. Apolonia died April 26- 1694, which helps confirm we have the right record for Miguel's first marriage. So Miguel is filho de Manoel de Paiva and Maria Ferreira who married in Matriz de Vila Franca, circa 1660. These records are missing, probably due to deterioration of records. Isabel Furtado is filha de Manoel de Almeida and Maria Jorge natives of Ponta Garca, also unavailable. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P69.html Test, Manoel de Oliveira and Antonio de Matos http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1673-1703/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1673-1703_item1/P92.html Apolonia de Andrade, page 102 verso, faleceu, 26, April, 1694, mulher de Miguel de Paiva, nao fez testamento. Hope this helps. JR On Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 10:15:40 PM UTC-5, bsei...@gmail.com wrote: > > I'm afraid I don't see Maia. I think the father is from Vila Franca. > I see o pai natural desta villa e a mãe natural da Ponta ??? (I believe JR > is correct, I'm just having a hard time to make what I see to say > "Garça". It does say they are residents of Ribeira Sequa (Seca) which as > JR and Cheri stated is part of this parish but became its own parish in > 2002. > > Bill Seidler > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.