Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Another set of eyes needed

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

I see 22 years, native and resident of Topo.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:26 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

> I am look for Marianna Jose's age/birthdate and place.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html
>
> Top right.
> Am I reading this right that she was 22 at the time of the marriage? I
> have not found her baptismal record yet.
>
> Thank you
> Marilyn T
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

[Janet Carminati]

Thanks so much Bill for the links to the additional marriage records and 
translation of the family names - this is really helpful!  I will keep looking 
further back and see what I find.

- Janet

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Another set of eyes needed

[Marilyn Thompson]

I am look for Marianna Jose's age/birthdate and place.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html

Top right.
Am I reading this right that she was 22 at the time of the marriage? I have
not found her baptismal record yet.

Thank you
Marilyn T

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Margarida Rosa

[Marilyn Thompson]

 Margarida's birthday was listed on her marriage as 13 October 1790. I need
someone to look at this one and tell me if this is the right one.

Bottom right corner.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1787-1792_item1/P64.html


On their marriage it has his birthday at 8 Oct 1790, but I am not finding
it.
Here is a link to their marriage. Top left
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1796-1828_item1/P174.html


I have looked in both Topo and Ribeira Seca for both of them
Thank you

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

[William Seidler]

Here is the second Joao's first marriage in 1765:  
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1742-1767/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1742-1767_item1/P93.html

Here is the first Joao's first marriage in 1728. 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P86.html
  
I read his parents as Baltazar Pimentel and his wife Maria Rosa de 
Freitas.  He is marrying Esperança Rosa, daughter of Manuel Martins and 
Esperança George.

Bill Seidler


On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 12:42:05 PM UTC-7, William Seidler wrote:
>
> Hi Janet,
>
> I am sorry I neglected to post the link for his second marriage, but glad 
> that you found it anyway.
>
> I don't see Joao's parents listed in the marriage to Maria de Almeida.  He 
> is widower of Esperança George (I think).  You would have to find his first 
> marriage to get his parents' names.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
> On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 10:20:33 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all for the insights and help! 
>>
>> William - i believe below is the second marriage to Mariana de Freitas 
>> you are referring to.  I have not found his first marriage yet but believe 
>> they had at least one child, Antonio from other records I have come across. 
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P98.html
>>  
>>
>> Bill - I have found his birth record in S. Pedro of Ponte Delgado, Flores 
>> below and he was born Oct 31, 1739, so not near Palm Sunday. 
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757_item1/P54.html
>>  
>>
>> His parents are Joao Pimentel and Maria de Almeide? (abbreviated to 
>> Almda) and their marriage record is: 
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P90.html
>>  
>> I cannot make out the parent(s) listed for João - might end in George - 
>> can anyone decipher that name? 
>>
>> Thanks again, 
>> Janet 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

[William Seidler]

Hi Janet,

I am sorry I neglected to post the link for his second marriage, but glad 
that you found it anyway.

I don't see Joao's parents listed in the marriage to Maria de Almeida.  He 
is widower of Esperança George (I think).  You would have to find his first 
marriage to get his parents' names.

Bill Seidler

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 10:20:33 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the insights and help! 
>
> William - i believe below is the second marriage to Mariana de Freitas you 
> are referring to.  I have not found his first marriage yet but believe they 
> had at least one child, Antonio from other records I have come across. 
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P98.html
>  
>
> Bill - I have found his birth record in S. Pedro of Ponte Delgado, Flores 
> below and he was born Oct 31, 1739, so not near Palm Sunday. 
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757_item1/P54.html
>  
>
> His parents are Joao Pimentel and Maria de Almeide? (abbreviated to Almda) 
> and their marriage record is: 
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P90.html
>  
> I cannot make out the parent(s) listed for João - might end in George - 
> can anyone decipher that name? 
>
> Thanks again, 
> Janet 
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

[Janet Carminati]

Thank you all for the insights and help!

William - i believe below is the second marriage to Mariana de Freitas you are 
referring to.  I have not found his first marriage yet but believe they had at 
least one child, Antonio from other records I have come across.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P98.html

Bill - I have found his birth record in S. Pedro of Ponte Delgado, Flores below 
and he was born Oct 31, 1739, so not near Palm Sunday.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757_item1/P54.html

His parents are Joao Pimentel and Maria de Almeide? (abbreviated to Almda) and 
their marriage record is:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P90.html
I cannot make out the parent(s) listed for João - might end in George - can 
anyone decipher that name?

Thanks again,
Janet





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Whittles, De Visme, Lloyd in San Miguel

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Yes Cheri, you are right. There were no English governors of Azores. 

 

De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Cheri 
Mello
Enviada: quinta-feira, 11 de julho de 2019 00:46
Para: Azores Genealogy 
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Whittles, De Visme, Lloyd in San Miguel

 

Jan,

 

Go back and reread the email. I did not give you the link to FamilySearch. I 
gave you the link to Tombo.pt, which in turn, links you to the AZOREAN 
GOVERNMENT web site. There is a difference between the two. 

 

To my knowledge, the Azores never had governors. I don't think they'd let a 
non-Portuguese have power. However, I am not well versed in Azorean history, so 
those who are will chime in, I'm sure.

 

Happy hunting,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:41 PM Jan Visinko mailto:peachtree...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Thanks for your reply, it was very helpful.  I am familiar with the 
Familysearch site.  But knowing the steps to use in researching so thanks for 
including them.  I believe Jane Whittle was born in the Azores circa 1800.  I 
have also read that her guardian Henry Lloyd was the temporary governor of the 
Azores he was born 1784 died 1844. I am trying to google the governors to see 
if I can confirm.  Warm Regards, Jan Visinko

 

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 2:46 AM Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Jan V,

 

Where was Jane Whittle born? You never state that.

 

The Azores is an autonomous region of Portugal. They consist of 9 islands, the 
largest of which is Sao Miguel. San Miguel is one of the Channel Islands off 
the coast of California. :)

 

Everything in the Azores is organized on the town level (village or freguesia). 
They are mainly the Catholic records. Were your people Catholic? If so, start 
going through all 70 or so churches on Sao Miguel island, looking for your 
people. https://tombo.pt/i/sao-miguel

 

If they were not Catholic, they may have used the Civil Registry for that time 
period. Some of those records exist. I don't believe they were digitized. You 
will have to go to your local Family History Center (FHC) that is affiliated 
with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (no, you don't need to be 
Mormon to use their library). You will have to order the film for each village 
that had Civil Registry records and look through them for your people.

Good luck,

Cheri Mello

Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

 

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 9:37 AM Jan Visinko mailto:peachtree...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I am from Australia. I am looking for the birth of my ggg grandmother Jane 
Whittle born circa 1800.  On Jane's marriage certificate she has guardians 
called Henry and Mary Lloyd.  Her husband James Christie worked for Lloyds 
Shipping in Portugal (Aveiro and Figueira) 1818.  I believe she could be the 
daughter of Col. Samuel Whittle and his wife Catharine, and the sister of Mary 
Lloyd, born in San Miguel 28.10.1789, full name Alicia Mary de Visme Whittle. 
She married Henry Lloyd in UK 1811. I believe Jane and James met in Portugal, 
went by ship to England to marry and returned to St. Miguel. There first born 
Mary Jane was born in Portugal.   Is there anyone who can help me with these 
families?  I would be most grateful, thanks Jan Visinko, Blue Mountains, NSW, 
Australia. 

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