Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] baptism record help reading

2019-09-23 Thread R Downey
Bill Thank you!  Such a huge help I was way off with this one!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:03 PM Bill Seidler  wrote:

> Hi Rene,
>
> The date is 17 September 1894.
>
> Nubientes (start middle on line 2, page 2): Manuel de Sousa and Maria do
> Carmo
>
> Groom (starts middle of line 6): elle (he), age of 36 years, viuvo
> (widower) of Luisa Pacheco who died in this parish, campones (field
> worker), native and his parents from the parish of Santa Ana, Furnas,
> concelho da Vila da Povoação, this diocese, where he was baptized and is a
> resident of this parish of Santos Reis Magos; legitimate son of Antonio de
> Sousa and Maria Rosa
>
> Bride (start middle of line 13) ella (she), age of 22 years, single,
> domestic occupation, native and her mother of this parish where she was
> baptized and is a resident; natural daughter of pai incognito (father
> unknown) and Antonia Rosa de Jesus.
>
> I did find what I believe is the bride's baptism here:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1870-1879/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-B-1870-1879_item1/P89.html
>  (the
> margin note on this baptism is about a different marriage from what looks
> like 1932 when this Maria would have been 60 years old)
>
> I also found the groom's baptism here:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1856-1860/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1856-1860_item1/P44.html
>  (upper
> right)
>
> I hope this helps you get started.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Assistance Required - Marriage Entry Bride and Groom Names and Parents of same

2019-09-23 Thread Azores Genealogy group
In relation to Doares verses Soares it is definitely Soares. Refer to 
marriage record in Book of Casamentos 1788 - 1806 for the Church of the 
Matriz São Jorge, Velas, São Jorge Island, Azores. Marriage entry 1231, 
image reference number 0026. Groom is recorded as Ignacio Soares de 
Albergaria and bride as Isabel Delfina da Silveira. Date of marriage 9 June 
1793. Cheers Tony

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 2:14:43 AM UTC+10, Azores Genealogy group 
wrote:
>
> Just wondering if someone can identify the names of the bride and grooms 
> and their parents. See attached address below. .Entry no. 5 dated 29 April 
> 1861
>
> I think the bride might be Isabel ? Pereira da Silveira e Sousa and the 
> groom Jose Soares Pereira de Sousa.
>
> Thanks in advance. Tony Amarant
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869_item1/P13.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Assistance Required - Marriage Entry Bride and Groom Names and Parents of same

2019-09-23 Thread Cheri Mello
There is no such name as Doares. It had to be a typo and I didn't catch it.
As I said, my computer died and I'm working off my phone in the interim,
which is difficult. It's a 2 x 2.5 inch (5 x 6.2 cm) workspace. It's
terrible. Cheri

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:46 AM Azores Genealogy group <
tony_amar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> In relation to Doares verses Soares it is definitely Soares. Refer to
> marriage record in Book of Casamentos 1788 - 1806 for the Church of the
> Matriz São Jorge, Velas, São Jorge Island, Azores. Marriage entry 1231,
> image reference number 0026. Groom is recorded as Ignacio Soares de
> Albergaria and bride as Isabel Delfina da Silveira. Date of marriage 9 June
> 1793. Cheers Tony
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 2:14:43 AM UTC+10, Azores Genealogy group
> wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering if someone can identify the names of the bride and grooms
>> and their parents. See attached address below. .Entry no. 5 dated 29 April
>> 1861
>>
>> I think the bride might be Isabel ? Pereira da Silveira e Sousa and the
>> groom Jose Soares Pereira de Sousa.
>>
>> Thanks in advance. Tony Amarant
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869_item1/P13.html
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Assistance Required - Marriage Entry Bride and Groom Names and Parents of same

2019-09-23 Thread Bill Seidler
Yes it was a typo and instead of just saying so I tried to make fun of my 
mistake.  My apologies for any confusion I caused.

Bill Seidler

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 6:52:37 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> There is no such name as Doares. It had to be a typo and I didn't catch 
> it. As I said, my computer died and I'm working off my phone in the 
> interim, which is difficult. It's a 2 x 2.5 inch (5 x 6.2 cm) workspace. 
> It's terrible. Cheri
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:46 AM Azores Genealogy group <
> tony_a...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>> In relation to Doares verses Soares it is definitely Soares. Refer to 
>> marriage record in Book of Casamentos 1788 - 1806 for the Church of the 
>> Matriz São Jorge, Velas, São Jorge Island, Azores. Marriage entry 1231, 
>> image reference number 0026. Groom is recorded as Ignacio Soares de 
>> Albergaria and bride as Isabel Delfina da Silveira. Date of marriage 9 June 
>> 1793. Cheers Tony
>>
>> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 2:14:43 AM UTC+10, Azores Genealogy 
>> group wrote:
>>>
>>> Just wondering if someone can identify the names of the bride and grooms 
>>> and their parents. See attached address below. .Entry no. 5 dated 29 April 
>>> 1861
>>>
>>> I think the bride might be Isabel ? Pereira da Silveira e Sousa and the 
>>> groom Jose Soares Pereira de Sousa.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Tony Amarant
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869_item1/P13.html
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Assistance Required - Marriage Entry Bride and Groom Names and Parents of same

2019-09-23 Thread Cheri Mello
I thought it was my mistake. Ugh, hurry up and get here, new computer!

On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 8:53 AM Bill Seidler  wrote:

> Yes it was a typo and instead of just saying so I tried to make fun of my
> mistake.  My apologies for any confusion I caused.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 6:52:37 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> There is no such name as Doares. It had to be a typo and I didn't catch
>> it. As I said, my computer died and I'm working off my phone in the
>> interim, which is difficult. It's a 2 x 2.5 inch (5 x 6.2 cm) workspace.
>> It's terrible. Cheri
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:46 AM Azores Genealogy group <
>> tony_a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In relation to Doares verses Soares it is definitely Soares. Refer to
>>> marriage record in Book of Casamentos 1788 - 1806 for the Church of the
>>> Matriz São Jorge, Velas, São Jorge Island, Azores. Marriage entry 1231,
>>> image reference number 0026. Groom is recorded as Ignacio Soares de
>>> Albergaria and bride as Isabel Delfina da Silveira. Date of marriage 9 June
>>> 1793. Cheers Tony
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 2:14:43 AM UTC+10, Azores Genealogy
>>> group wrote:

 Just wondering if someone can identify the names of the bride and
 grooms and their parents. See attached address below. .Entry no. 5 dated 29
 April 1861

 I think the bride might be Isabel ? Pereira da Silveira e Sousa and the
 groom Jose Soares Pereira de Sousa.

 Thanks in advance. Tony Amarant


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869/SJR-VL-URZELINA-C-1860-1869_item1/P13.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record

2019-09-23 Thread Luis Arruda

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P384.html

I believe it says the child - Margarida- was born on the 15th of October 
and baptized on the 20th of October 1889. I believe the mothers name is 
Maria Almeida Conceicao, however I cannot make out the fathers name nor the 
godparents of Margarida.
Thanking everyone in advance who helps out
Luis Arruda

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record

2019-09-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Luis,

Baptized: Oct 23 1889
Born on:  Oct 15 1889
Father: Manuel Mathias de Souza 
Paternal grandparents: Manuel de Souza Coelho natural of this parish, and 
Antonia Jacinta, natural of Sao Sebastiao of Ginetes place
Maternal grandparents: Jose Pimentel de Carvalho and Maria de Almeida
Godfather: Manuel Carvalho de Viveiros, married and Godmother Maria do Espirito 
Santo, married

Margaret v

From: Luis Arruda
Sent: September 23, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P384.html

I believe it says the child - Margarida- was born on the 15th of October and 
baptized on the 20th of October 1889. I believe the mothers name is Maria 
Almeida Conceicao, however I cannot make out the fathers name nor the 
godparents of Margarida.
Thanking everyone in advance who helps out
Luis Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record

2019-09-23 Thread Luis Arruda
Dear Margaret,
Thank you so much for your expeditious reply.
It means a great deal to me that you took time out of your busy day to help
me.
Luis Arruda


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On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:32 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Hello Luis,
>
>
>
> Baptized: Oct 23 1889
>
> Born on:  Oct 15 1889
>
> Father: Manuel Mathias de Souza
>
> Paternal grandparents: Manuel de Souza Coelho natural of this parish, and
> Antonia Jacinta, natural of Sao Sebastiao of Ginetes place
>
> Maternal grandparents: Jose Pimentel de Carvalho and Maria de Almeida
>
> Godfather: Manuel Carvalho de Viveiros, married and Godmother Maria do
> Espirito Santo, married
>
>
>
> Margaret v
>
>
>
> *From: *Luis Arruda 
> *Sent: *September 23, 2019 12:57 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record
>
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P384.html
>
>
>
> I believe it says the child - Margarida- was born on the 15th of October
> and baptized on the 20th of October 1889. I believe the mothers name is
> Maria Almeida Conceicao, however I cannot make out the fathers name nor the
> godparents of Margarida.
>
> Thanking everyone in advance who helps out
>
> Luis Arruda
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] 2020 Censwus

2019-09-23 Thread Gordon soares
This is off the Ancestry track but I think it is important to share this 
information since we go to such lengths to be sure Portuguese and the Azores 
are included in DNA search sites. With your indulgence I want to alert you to 
how we as Portuguese and NOT Hispanic will be counted in the 2020 census.  

The Portuguese-Americal Leadership Council of the United States has been 
successful in getting the Portuguese (including the Azores) I to be counted in 
the 2020 census.  Below is the web site for seeing and showing  how we can be 
counted. There is a link also to PALCUS (The Portuguese-American Leadership 
Council of the United States) should anyone be interested in the organization 
dedicated to Portuguese around the world. Perhaps many of you already know all 
this.

www.palcus.org/makeportuguesecount  

Portuguese-American Leadership Council of the United States,  
WWW.PALCUS.ORG )
GORDON
GORDON SOARES






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2020 Censwus

2019-09-23 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Thank you Gordon, this is very important to us as Portuguese descendants!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:25 PM Gordon soares  wrote:

> This is off the Ancestry track but I think it is important to share this
> information since we go to such lengths to be sure Portuguese and the
> Azores are included in DNA search sites. With your indulgence I want to
> alert you to how we as Portuguese and NOT Hispanic will be counted in the
> 2020 census.
>
> The Portuguese-Americal Leadership Council of the United States has been
> successful in getting the Portuguese (including the Azores) I to be counted
> in the 2020 census.  Below is the web site for seeing and showing  how we
> can be counted. There is a link also to PALCUS (The Portuguese-American
> Leadership Council of the United States) should anyone be interested in the
> organization dedicated to Portuguese around the world. Perhaps many of you
> already know all this.
>
> www.palcus.org/makeportuguesecount
>
> Portuguese-American Leadership Council of the United States,
> WWW.PALCUS.ORG)
> GORDON
> GORDON SOARES
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record

2019-09-23 Thread Margaret Vicente
Luis,
You are welcome!
Margaret

From: Luis Arruda
Sent: September 23, 2019 3:20 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record

Dear Margaret,
Thank you so much for your expeditious reply.
It means a great deal to me that you took time out of your busy day to help me.
Luis Arruda 


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On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:32 PM Margaret Vicente  
wrote:
Hello Luis,
 
Baptized: Oct 23 1889
Born on:  Oct 15 1889
Father: Manuel Mathias de Souza 
Paternal grandparents: Manuel de Souza Coelho natural of this parish, and 
Antonia Jacinta, natural of Sao Sebastiao of Ginetes place
Maternal grandparents: Jose Pimentel de Carvalho and Maria de Almeida
Godfather: Manuel Carvalho de Viveiros, married and Godmother Maria do Espirito 
Santo, married
 
Margaret v
 
From: Luis Arruda
Sent: September 23, 2019 12:57 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Assistance with Baptismal Record
 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P384.html
 
I believe it says the child - Margarida- was born on the 15th of October and 
baptized on the 20th of October 1889. I believe the mothers name is Maria 
Almeida Conceicao, however I cannot make out the fathers name nor the 
godparents of Margarida.
Thanking everyone in advance who helps out
Luis Arruda
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 2020 Censwus

2019-09-23 Thread Maria Lima
Gordon- thank u for this information.  I passed on to my husband whose family 
history I continue to research.  (With much assistance from this AZORES Group. )

Maria Elena (Lima)  



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> On Sep 23, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Gordon, this is very important to us as Portuguese descendants! 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:25 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>> This is off the Ancestry track but I think it is important to share this 
>> information since we go to such lengths to be sure Portuguese and the Azores 
>> are included in DNA search sites. With your indulgence I want to alert you 
>> to how we as Portuguese and NOT Hispanic will be counted in the 2020 census. 
>>  
>> 
>> The Portuguese-Americal Leadership Council of the United States has been 
>> successful in getting the Portuguese (including the Azores) I to be counted 
>> in the 2020 census.  Below is the web site for seeing and showing  how we 
>> can be counted. There is a link also to PALCUS (The Portuguese-American 
>> Leadership Council of the United States) should anyone be interested in the 
>> organization dedicated to Portuguese around the world. Perhaps many of you 
>> already know all this.
>> 
>> www.palcus.org/makeportuguesecount 
>> 
>> Portuguese-American Leadership Council of the United States,  
>> WWW.PALCUS.ORG)
>> GORDON
>> GORDON SOARES
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

2019-09-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your
database? I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife.
All kids, whether or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

2019-09-23 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
My dads aunt and uncle had 14 kids from 1913-1933.

 

My 2nd Great Grandfather had 14 kids from his first wife from 1858-1882. 

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 9:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

 

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

 

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

 

Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

2019-09-23 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy
19 kids from one wife,
Born 1865-1895, no twins 

(Not my ancestors but my aunt my marriage’s grandparentsin my 
database...was not sure if they needed to be my ancestors) 

Susan Vargas Murphy 

> On Sep 24, 2019, at 5:34 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? 
> I prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, 
> whether or not they lived to adulthood.
> 
> Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
> 1890-1913.
> 
> Thanks, Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

2019-09-23 Thread TERESA Phillips
Keith's grandparents - 15 kids, no twins, kids born 1908-1930

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Mello 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:34 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

Can you all let me know the largest Azorean family you have in your database? I 
prefer the late 1800s onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether 
or not they lived to adulthood.

Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.

Thanks, Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey

2019-09-23 Thread 'Veronica Perry' via Azores Genealogy
 
My 2nd great grandmother - 15 children  - born 1841-1863

Veronica Perry-De MelloOn Monday, September 23, 2019, 08:27:04 PM PDT, 
TERESA Phillips  wrote:  
 
 #yiv5028767578 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Keith's grandparents - 15 
kids, no twins, kids born 1908-1930From: azores@googlegroups.com 
 on behalf of Cheri Mello 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 7:34 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family size survey Can you all let me know the 
largest Azorean family you have in your database? I prefer the late 1800s 
onwards, and it must be from ONE wife. All kids, whether or not they lived to 
adulthood.
Example: 14 kids from ONE wife, includes one set of twins. Kids born from 
1890-1913.
Thanks, Cheri

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