[AZORES-Genealogy] FAIAL RODRIGUES ALEMÃO and PEREIRA CHAVES

[Rita Soares]

I am looking for ancestors of Manuel Rodrigues Alemão, from Capelo, Faial, 
around 1660. His descendents then lived in Castelo Branco, Faial, and their 
surname evolved to Pereira Chaves. They came to the portuguese continent 
around 1750, to settle in Alentejo, where my paternal family comes from to 
this day. Any help will be appreciated. I have a FTDNA test for me and my 
parents as well.

Thank you! Obrigada!
Rita Soares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Kristie, in later records there is a baptismal date and a birth (naceu)
date. When you get to the older records it's just a baptismal date.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Kristie Scherm 
wrote:

> Bill and Judy,
>
> Wow, thanks for the start. I am feeling quite overwhelmed. I have been
> doing genealogy for a long time and have not gotten that far on the
> Portuguese side of the family, which is my maternal grandmother's entire
> side. So, in general, the baptismal date is like to be the birth date?
> Lauriana and Manual married in Kings County in 1915 and it was Lauriana's
> second marriage. I will begin looking in he areas you suggested.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kristie
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 2:15 AM,  wrote:
>
>> The only parish named Almagreira (as far as I am aware) is on Santa Maria
>> island and not Pico.
>>
>> Your ancestors seem to be from Pico.  Although no parish called
>> Almagreira exists on Pico, there is a place in the parish of Lajes do Pico
>> called Almagreira.   You can see Almagreira listed here as part of Lajes do
>> Pico
>>
>> *https://worldpostalcode.com/portugal/azores/lajes-do-pico/*
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Records from that Almagreira will be included in Lajes do Pico records.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is no strong match for the baptism I submitted for Manuel so I
>> can’t say that is the Manuel that married Laureanna.  The match to the
>> Laureana baptism I sent is much stronger and likely is your great
>> grandmother.  Her parents names match closely (Manuel Francisco da Rosa
>> = Manuel Rose; and Maria Luisa, daughter of Jose de Brum =  Maria de Brum)
>> and the date of birth you provide (6 Aug 1888) is an exact match to the
>> baptism I provided.
>>
>> I hope this gets you started.  You might try scanning the Horta
>> passaportes to find them leaving the Azores.  You can access them, as
>> well as church records through *https://tombo.pt/* .
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Cheri Mello]

Kristie,
No, a birth date is the day the baby was born. The baptism date is the day
the baby was baptized into the Catholic Church. Some babies are born and
baptized the same day. Most are baptized days to a couple of weeks after
they are born.

The 3rd and 2nd time periods give both birth and baptism dates. The earlier
you go into the 1st time period, the more likely you are to see just the
baptism date.
Cheri

On May 29, 2018 5:05 PM, "Kristie Scherm"  wrote:

> Bill and Judy,
>
> Wow, thanks for the start. I am feeling quite overwhelmed. I have been
> doing genealogy for a long time and have not gotten that far on the
> Portuguese side of the family, which is my maternal grandmother's entire
> side. So, in general, the baptismal date is like to be the birth date?
> Lauriana and Manual married in Kings County in 1915 and it was Lauriana's
> second marriage. I will begin looking in he areas you suggested.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Kristie
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 2:15 AM,  wrote:
>
>> The only parish named Almagreira (as far as I am aware) is on Santa Maria
>> island and not Pico.
>>
>> Your ancestors seem to be from Pico.  Although no parish called
>> Almagreira exists on Pico, there is a place in the parish of Lajes do Pico
>> called Almagreira.   You can see Almagreira listed here as part of Lajes do
>> Pico
>>
>> *https://worldpostalcode.com/portugal/azores/lajes-do-pico/*
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Records from that Almagreira will be included in Lajes do Pico records.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is no strong match for the baptism I submitted for Manuel so I
>> can’t say that is the Manuel that married Laureanna.  The match to the
>> Laureana baptism I sent is much stronger and likely is your great
>> grandmother.  Her parents names match closely (Manuel Francisco da Rosa
>> = Manuel Rose; and Maria Luisa, daughter of Jose de Brum =  Maria de Brum)
>> and the date of birth you provide (6 Aug 1888) is an exact match to the
>> baptism I provided.
>>
>> I hope this gets you started.  You might try scanning the Horta
>> passaportes to find them leaving the Azores.  You can access them, as
>> well as church records through *https://tombo.pt/* .
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Bill and Judy,

Wow, thanks for the start. I am feeling quite overwhelmed. I have been
doing genealogy for a long time and have not gotten that far on the
Portuguese side of the family, which is my maternal grandmother's entire
side. So, in general, the baptismal date is like to be the birth date?
Lauriana and Manual married in Kings County in 1915 and it was Lauriana's
second marriage. I will begin looking in he areas you suggested.

Thanks again,

Kristie

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 2:15 AM,  wrote:

> The only parish named Almagreira (as far as I am aware) is on Santa Maria
> island and not Pico.
>
> Your ancestors seem to be from Pico.  Although no parish called Almagreira
> exists on Pico, there is a place in the parish of Lajes do Pico called
> Almagreira.   You can see Almagreira listed here as part of Lajes do Pico
>
> *https://worldpostalcode.com/portugal/azores/lajes-do-pico/*
> 
>
>
>
> Records from that Almagreira will be included in Lajes do Pico records.
>
>
>
> There is no strong match for the baptism I submitted for Manuel so I can’t
> say that is the Manuel that married Laureanna.  The match to the Laureana
> baptism I sent is much stronger and likely is your great grandmother.  Her
> parents names match closely (Manuel Francisco da Rosa = Manuel Rose; and
> Maria Luisa, daughter of Jose de Brum =  Maria de Brum) and the date of
> birth you provide (6 Aug 1888) is an exact match to the baptism I provided.
>
> I hope this gets you started.  You might try scanning the Horta
> passaportes to find them leaving the Azores.  You can access them, as
> well as church records through *https://tombo.pt/* .
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Judy Thompson]

There is what you might call a neighborhood in Lajes on Pico called 
Almagreira.  It is not a separate parish.  A couple of other neighborhoods 
in Lajes are Rua Nova and Rua do Meio.  At least sometimes these 
neighborhoods show up on birth records.  Perhaps someone else knows the 
Portuguese name for a neighborhood.  So I'd look in Lajes records to see if 
you can find them.   I have relatives from all 3 of these neighborhoods and 
3 of my grandparents also died in Kings County.  

Judy

On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 7:35:00 PM UTC-7, Kristie Scherm wrote:

> Bill, 
>
> This is the infomration I have and I am extremely thankful for your help. 
>
> Manuel was born 13 Mar 1890 (all born in Pico)
> his father Manuel 15 Oct 1859 and his mother Isabel Soares about 1862, 
> both died in Kings County, California
>
> Lauriana 6 Aug 1888 (most sources says she was born in  Almagriera, Pico) 
> As I understand it Almagriera is on Santa Maria island, not Pico, but I am 
> new at this. 
> father Manuel Rose (no birth date) 
> Mother Maria de Brum about 1867
> as far as I know, these two never came to America. 
>
> Let me know if you need anything else. 
>
> Kristie
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:31 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Kristie,
>>
>> Do you have an approximate year for any of these people?  I did find a 
>> Manuel born in 1891 who could be a match for you grandmother's father since 
>> his parents names match what you provided.
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891_item1/P116.html
>>
>> Name: Manuel
>> Baptism: Lajes do Pico 30 April 1891
>> Birthdate: 12 February 1891
>> Father: Manuel da Rosa, son of Manuel da Rosa and Catharina Jacintha
>> Mother: Isabel Thereza, daughter of Manuel de Brum? Soares and Isabel 
>> Thereza.
>>
>> I believe it says the parents are both native and current parishioners of 
>> this parish, but that they were married at Igreja de São Raphael of the in 
>> the United States of America.
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[bsei2816]

 

The only parish named Almagreira (as far as I am aware) is on Santa Maria 
island and not Pico.

Your ancestors seem to be from Pico.  Although no parish called Almagreira 
exists on Pico, there is a place in the parish of Lajes do Pico called 
Almagreira.   You can see Almagreira listed here as part of Lajes do Pico

*https://worldpostalcode.com/portugal/azores/lajes-do-pico/* 


 

Records from that Almagreira will be included in Lajes do Pico records.  

 

There is no strong match for the baptism I submitted for Manuel so I can’t 
say that is the Manuel that married Laureanna.  The match to the Laureana 
baptism I sent is much stronger and likely is your great grandmother.  Her 
parents names match closely (Manuel Francisco da Rosa = Manuel Rose; and 
Maria Luisa, daughter of Jose de Brum =  Maria de Brum) and the date of 
birth you provide (6 Aug 1888) is an exact match to the baptism I provided.

I hope this gets you started.  You might try scanning the Horta passaportes 
to find them leaving the Azores.  You can access them, as well as church 
records through *https://tombo.pt/* .

 

Good luck,

Bill


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Bill,

This is the infomration I have and I am extremely thankful for your help.

Manuel was born 13 Mar 1890 (all born in Pico)
his father Manuel 15 Oct 1859 and his mother Isabel Soares about 1862, both
died in Kings County, California

Lauriana 6 Aug 1888 (most sources says she was born in  Almagriera, Pico)
As I understand it Almagriera is on Santa Maria island, not Pico, but I am
new at this.
father Manuel Rose (no birth date)
Mother Maria de Brum about 1867
as far as I know, these two never came to America.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Kristie

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:31 PM,  wrote:

> Kristie,
>
> Do you have an approximate year for any of these people?  I did find a
> Manuel born in 1891 who could be a match for you grandmother's father since
> his parents names match what you provided.
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
> digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891_item1/P116.html
>
> Name: Manuel
> Baptism: Lajes do Pico 30 April 1891
> Birthdate: 12 February 1891
> Father: Manuel da Rosa, son of Manuel da Rosa and Catharina Jacintha
> Mother: Isabel Thereza, daughter of Manuel de Brum? Soares and Isabel
> Thereza.
>
> I believe it says the parents are both native and current parishioners of
> this parish, but that they were married at Igreja de São Raphael of the in
> the United States of America.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[bsei2816]

Here is a Laureanna that looks promising, based on the parents' names:

*http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891_item1/P23.html*
 


Baptism: Lajes do Pico, 19 Aug 1888

Date of Birth: 6 Aug 1888

Father: Manuel Francisco da Rosa.  Paternal grandparents: Jose Francisco da 
Rosa and Maria Vicencia

Mother: Maria Luisa.  Maternal grandparents: Jose de Brum and Anna Francisca

Good Luck,

Bill Seidler


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[bsei2816]

Kristie,

Do you have an approximate year for any of these people?  I did find a 
Manuel born in 1891 who could be a match for you grandmother's father since 
his parents names match what you provided.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1887-1891_item1/P116.html

Name: Manuel
Baptism: Lajes do Pico 30 April 1891
Birthdate: 12 February 1891
Father: Manuel da Rosa, son of Manuel da Rosa and Catharina Jacintha
Mother: Isabel Thereza, daughter of Manuel de Brum? Soares and Isabel 
Thereza.

I believe it says the parents are both native and current parishioners of 
this parish, but that they were married at Igreja de São Raphael of the in 
the United States of America.

Bill Seidler


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Cheri Mello]

Kristie S,

Rosemarie and I take 30-40 researchers to Salt Lake City periodically for a
4 day conference & research trip. Our next one will be in 13 months, so
June of NEXT year. It's a lot of fun researching your ancestors with
others. The library seems to tolerate our noise level pretty well :)  In
addition to the classes, we do one-on-one help where we sit with you
through the record so you can gain experience. Also, DNA help is available
too. I will post to the list with the dates later this summer.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Darn!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Kristie Scherm 
wrote:

> Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, I am in Pennsylvania so I can't
> stop in for help.
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Kristie,
>> The CCA is the government site that house all of the actual documents:
>> Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths of all of the Azore Islands. It has been down
>> all weekend but hopefully, it will be back up soon! When you use the site
>> for Pico and Faial (CITCEM) you still must verify what you see with the
>> actual docs (CCA site).
>> You really need to go to the Azores GenWeb site, here:
>> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  and read the research helps. Where
>> do you live? I live and work in CA, and I volunteer at the Monterey Family
>> History Center on Tuesdays from 1 to 4pm. So, if you or anyone in the area
>> needs help, please come and I will help you!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Kristie Scherm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you! Which site will need to be back up?
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 8:52 PM, JR  wrote:
>>>
 "the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books
 already, before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila
 do Porto. And those are the only Parishes online for now." That quote is
 from a past posting. Almagreira is on St Maria Island, not Pico. You can
 look it up once the site is back up.

 JR

 On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 8:05:07 PM UTC-4, Kristie Scherm wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
> Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have
> some of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa
> Maria, which I don't see on the site. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> ~Kristie
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm 
> wrote:
>
>> Cheri,
>> Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
>> there.
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> ~Kristie
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kristie S,
>>>
>>> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from
>>> which island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah -
>>> village) that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the
>>> town/village level.
>>>
>>> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must
>>> use the modern Portuguese spelling.
>>>
>>> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da
>>> Rosa. Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen
>>> Treza,but I don't research those islands.
>>>
>>> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana
>>> Rosa Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in 
>>> there.
>>> De Brum has a space.
>>>
>>> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on
>>> Faial, but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico
>>> researchers will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every 
>>> single
>>> freguesia. By using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum)
>>> will help, but you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY
>>> couple on that whole island with that name combination.
>>>
>>> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
>>> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click
>>> that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click 
>>> the
>>> British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, 
>>> collecting
>>> all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>>>
>>> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will
>>> be rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses 
>>> (for
>>> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
>>> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar
>>>
>>> Good luck, Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, I am in Pennsylvania so I can't
stop in for help.

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Kristie,
> The CCA is the government site that house all of the actual documents:
> Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths of all of the Azore Islands. It has been down
> all weekend but hopefully, it will be back up soon! When you use the site
> for Pico and Faial (CITCEM) you still must verify what you see with the
> actual docs (CCA site).
> You really need to go to the Azores GenWeb site, here:
> http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  and read the research helps. Where do
> you live? I live and work in CA, and I volunteer at the Monterey Family
> History Center on Tuesdays from 1 to 4pm. So, if you or anyone in the area
> needs help, please come and I will help you!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Kristie Scherm 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you! Which site will need to be back up?
>>
>> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 8:52 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> "the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already,
>>> before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto.
>>> And those are the only Parishes online for now." That quote is from a past
>>> posting. Almagreira is on St Maria Island, not Pico. You can look it up
>>> once the site is back up.
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 8:05:07 PM UTC-4, Kristie Scherm wrote:

 Cheri,

 Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have
 some of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa
 Maria, which I don't see on the site. Any ideas?

 Thanks for your help.

 ~Kristie

 On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm 
 wrote:

> Cheri,
> Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
> there.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> ~Kristie
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kristie S,
>>
>> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from
>> which island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah -
>> village) that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the
>> town/village level.
>>
>> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must
>> use the modern Portuguese spelling.
>>
>> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da
>> Rosa. Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen
>> Treza,but I don't research those islands.
>>
>> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana
>> Rosa Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in 
>> there.
>> De Brum has a space.
>>
>> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on
>> Faial, but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico
>> researchers will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single
>> freguesia. By using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum)
>> will help, but you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY
>> couple on that whole island with that name combination.
>>
>> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
>> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click
>> that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the
>> British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, 
>> collecting
>> all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>>
>> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will
>> be rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses 
>> (for
>> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
>> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar
>>
>> Good luck, Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Kristie,
The CCA is the government site that house all of the actual documents:
Baptisms, Marriages, Deaths of all of the Azore Islands. It has been down
all weekend but hopefully, it will be back up soon! When you use the site
for Pico and Faial (CITCEM) you still must verify what you see with the
actual docs (CCA site).
You really need to go to the Azores GenWeb site, here:
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  and read the research helps. Where do
you live? I live and work in CA, and I volunteer at the Monterey Family
History Center on Tuesdays from 1 to 4pm. So, if you or anyone in the area
needs help, please come and I will help you!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Kristie Scherm 
wrote:

> Thank you! Which site will need to be back up?
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 8:52 PM, JR  wrote:
>
>> "the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already,
>> before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto.
>> And those are the only Parishes online for now." That quote is from a past
>> posting. Almagreira is on St Maria Island, not Pico. You can look it up
>> once the site is back up.
>>
>> JR
>>
>> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 8:05:07 PM UTC-4, Kristie Scherm wrote:
>>>
>>> Cheri,
>>>
>>> Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have
>>> some of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa
>>> Maria, which I don't see on the site. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> ~Kristie
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Cheri,
 Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
 there.

 Have a great day!

 ~Kristie

 On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Kristie S,
>
> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which
> island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village)
> that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village
> level.
>
> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must
> use the modern Portuguese spelling.
>
> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa.
> Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I
> don't research those islands.
>
> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana
> Rosa Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in 
> there.
> De Brum has a space.
>
> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on
> Faial, but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico
> researchers will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single
> freguesia. By using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum)
> will help, but you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY
> couple on that whole island with that name combination.
>
> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click
> that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the
> British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting
> all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>
> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be
> rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for
> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar
>
> Good luck, Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Thank you! Which site will need to be back up?

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 8:52 PM, JR  wrote:

> "the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already,
> before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto.
> And those are the only Parishes online for now." That quote is from a past
> posting. Almagreira is on St Maria Island, not Pico. You can look it up
> once the site is back up.
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 8:05:07 PM UTC-4, Kristie Scherm wrote:
>>
>> Cheri,
>>
>> Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have some
>> of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa Maria,
>> which I don't see on the site. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> ~Kristie
>>
>> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri,
>>> Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>> ~Kristie
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Kristie S,

 To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which
 island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village)
 that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village
 level.

 For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must use
 the modern Portuguese spelling.

 Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa.
 Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I
 don't research those islands.

 Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana
 Rosa Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in there.
 De Brum has a space.

 This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on
 Faial, but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico
 researchers will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single
 freguesia. By using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum)
 will help, but you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY
 couple on that whole island with that name combination.

 CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
 Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click
 that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the
 British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting
 all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.

 This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be
 rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for
 immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
 how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar

 Good luck, Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[bsei2816]

It is difficult to know which island interests you.  

There is an Almagreira (Lajes do Pico), but it is not on Santa Maria 
island.  It is a locality on the north side of Lajes do Pico on the island 
of Pico.  Being part of the Lajes do Pico freguesia, the parish should be 
Santissima Trinidade.  

There is also a freguesia on Santa Maria island called Almagreira with the 
parish Nossa Senhora de Bom Despacho.  It has only been its own freguesia 
since about 1903  so CCA only has records for a few years.  Prior to 1903 
it was part of Nossa Senhora de Assunç   ão in Vila do Porto, Santa Maria.

CITCEM that Cheri referred to cannot help with Santa Maria island, but I 
did find some possible leads in Lajes do Pico.  These can't be confirmed 
until CCA comes up.

A Manuel Rosa, born 22 March 1832 Lajes do Pico and died 6 March 1904 also 
in Lajes was married to a Maria Jacinta (no surname or parents names given) 
on 9 Jun 1859.  They had a daughter named Laureana in 1865.

An Isabel Teresa, born 16 November 1858, daughter of Manuel Brum Silveira 
Soares married a Manuel Rosa Câtelo.


Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[JR]

"the newest one is Almagreira, and there are a few online books already, 
before those years, one must go to Assunção, in other words, Vila do Porto. 
And those are the only Parishes online for now." That quote is from a past 
posting. Almagreira is on St Maria Island, not Pico. You can look it up 
once the site is back up.

JR

On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 8:05:07 PM UTC-4, Kristie Scherm wrote:
>
> Cheri, 
>
> Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have some 
> of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa Maria, 
> which I don't see on the site. Any ideas? 
>
> Thanks for your help. 
>
> ~Kristie
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm  > wrote:
>
>> Cheri, 
>> Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from 
>> there. 
>>
>> Have a great day!
>>
>> ~Kristie
>>
>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kristie S,
>>>
>>> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which 
>>> island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village) 
>>> that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village 
>>> level.
>>>
>>> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must use 
>>> the modern Portuguese spelling.
>>>
>>> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa. 
>>> Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I 
>>> don't research those islands. 
>>>
>>> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana Rosa 
>>> Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in there. De 
>>> Brum has a space.
>>>
>>> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on Faial, 
>>> but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico researchers 
>>> will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single freguesia. By 
>>> using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum) will help, but 
>>> you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY couple on that 
>>> whole island with that name combination.
>>>
>>> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
>>> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click 
>>> that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the 
>>> British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting 
>>> all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>>>
>>> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be 
>>> rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for 
>>> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A 
>>> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar 
>>>
>>> Good luck, Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Cheri,

Sorry to bother you, but I am searching the site and my records have some
of my family in Almagreira (Lajes de Pico) on the island of Santa Maria,
which I don't see on the site. Any ideas?

Thanks for your help.

~Kristie

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Kristie Scherm 
wrote:

> Cheri,
> Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
> there.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> ~Kristie
>
> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Hi Kristie S,
>>
>> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which
>> island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village)
>> that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village
>> level.
>>
>> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must use
>> the modern Portuguese spelling.
>>
>> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa.
>> Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I
>> don't research those islands.
>>
>> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana Rosa
>> Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in there. De
>> Brum has a space.
>>
>> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on Faial,
>> but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico researchers
>> will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single freguesia. By
>> using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum) will help, but
>> you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY couple on that
>> whole island with that name combination.
>>
>> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
>> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click
>> that, next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the
>> British flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting
>> all the Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>>
>> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be
>> rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for
>> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
>> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar
>>
>> Good luck, Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Cheri,
Thanks so much, I at least have a starting point. I will work it from
there.

Have a great day!

~Kristie

On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Kristie S,
>
> To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which
> island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village)
> that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village
> level.
>
> For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must use
> the modern Portuguese spelling.
>
> Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa.
> Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I
> don't research those islands.
>
> Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana Rosa
> Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in there. De
> Brum has a space.
>
> This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on Faial,
> but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico researchers
> will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single freguesia. By
> using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum) will help, but
> you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY couple on that
> whole island with that name combination.
>
> CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
> Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click that,
> next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the British
> flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting all the
> Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.
>
> This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be
> rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for
> immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
> how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar
>
> Good luck, Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Kristie S,

To begin researching in the Azores, you need to know who is from which
island and which freguesia (fregh (rhymes with Greg) - Z -ah - village)
that they are from. Everything in Europe is organized on the town/village
level.

For the islands of Pico and Faial, there are finding aids. You must use the
modern Portuguese spelling.

Mary Rose would be Maria da Rosa. Manuel Rose would be Manuel da Rosa.
Isabella Soares is Isabela or Isabel Soares. I've never seen Treza,but I
don't research those islands.

Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond is a problem. She might be Lauriana Rosa
Simas da Rosa Ormonde, but there seems too be too many Rosas in there. De
Brum has a space.

This site, with the acronym of CITCEM is missing one freguesia on Faial,
but I *think* it has all of Pico, but I'm not sure. The Pico researchers
will chime in. You will find a Manuel da Rosa in every single freguesia. By
using the wife's names (Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum) will help, but
you'll have to double check to be sure that they are ONLY couple on that
whole island with that name combination.

CITCEM is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html
Start with the first freguesia on Pico (Concelho de Madalena). Click that,
next screen, scroll down and click the arrow, next screen click the British
flag to navigate in English. Keep working you way down, collecting all the
Manuel da Rosas married to Isabela Soares and Maria de Brum.

This needle in the haystack method (even with a PARTIAL index) will be
rather daunting. You should do more U.S. research by using censuses (for
immigration year), obituaries, WWI Draft, naturalizations, etc, etc. A
how-to can be found on the Azores GenWeb here: https://goo.gl/dGG4Ar

Good luck, Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial and Pico Azores

[Kristie Scherm]

Hello, I am new to this group and am looking for help with my Azores 
family. My grandmother was Mary Rose from Lemoore, California. Her father 
was Manuel Rose (son of Manuel Rose and Isabella Soares or Treza) and her 
Mother was Lauriana Rose Simas Rose Ormond (daughter of Manuel Rose and 
Maria deBrum). If anyone has any information on how I can find out more 
information, it would be greatly appreciated. Apparently they were from 
Faial and/or Pico islands of the Azores. Thanks so much for the help. 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Manoel Cesar]

Here's what I have in my notes. I hope you can read portuguese:

. Bárbara, b. 12.7.1609 - CCA #88. Filha de Manuel Roiz (sic)* e Maria
Luiz. Pd: Luiz Teixeira e Marta de Flores.

*Obs.: O pároco fez confusão com o nome de Manuel de Faria. Há nessa época
em São Pedro da Ribeira Grande o casal Manuel Roiz e Maria Luiz que batiza
uma filha de nome Águeda justamente em 9.3.1609 - CCA #87. É impossível
quatro meses depois terem uma outra filha!! Em 22.8.1610 - CCA #90, Manuel
Roiz e Maria Luiz batizam uma outra filha de nome Maria, e novamente deve
ser erro do pároco e o nome correto do pai é Manuel de Faria, pois em
12.1.1611 - CCA #90 o pároco registra um outro batismo, cujo nome da
criança não foi anotado, do casal Manuel Roiz e Maria Luiz!!

Manoel



2016-01-18 22:12 GMT-02:00 Sandra Perez <perezsandra...@gmail.com>:

> Manoel, do you have Barbara Roiz' birth?  JR and I have trading info
> today.  I am a distant cousin to his wife. I descend from Manoel Faria and
> Maria Luis' son Ventura Rois--my 9th great-grandfather.  I will forward
> that to you.
>
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Júlio,
>>
>> Miguel da Rocha and Bárbara Roiz are my ancestors too.
>> I descend from their daughter Maria de Faria who married Matias Pereira
>> in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande, on 3 jul 1666. Matias was from Rabo de Peixe.
>>
>> I have a lot of ancestors in Ribeira Grande living in the late 1500s and
>> early 1600s.
>>
>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>
>>
>> Em segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2016 18:51:36 UTC-2, Júlio escreveu:
>>>
>>> This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on
>>> 29 Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in
>>> Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec
>>> 1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr
>>> 1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel
>>> Rodrigues de Sousa.
>>>
>>> segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez
>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you everyone.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out.
>>>>> You're in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as
>>>>> someone said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of
>>>>> Faial" if someone came from there.
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that
>>>>>> reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>>>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with
>>>>>>> Faial*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra,
>>>>>>> Sao Miguel?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R.
>>>>>>> Grande.  It says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the
>>>>>>> Isalnd.  Top left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>&g

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Sandra Perez]

Manoel, do you have Barbara Roiz' birth?  JR and I have trading info
today.  I am a distant cousin to his wife. I descend from Manoel Faria and
Maria Luis' son Ventura Rois--my 9th great-grandfather.  I will forward
that to you.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Júlio,
>
> Miguel da Rocha and Bárbara Roiz are my ancestors too.
> I descend from their daughter Maria de Faria who married Matias Pereira in
> São Pedro, Ribeira Grande, on 3 jul 1666. Matias was from Rabo de Peixe.
>
> I have a lot of ancestors in Ribeira Grande living in the late 1500s and
> early 1600s.
>
> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>
>
> Em segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2016 18:51:36 UTC-2, Júlio escreveu:
>>
>> This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on
>> 29 Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in
>> Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec
>> 1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr
>> 1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel
>> Rodrigues de Sousa.
>>
>> segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Thank you everyone.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're
>>>> in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone
>>>> said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if
>>>> someone came from there.
>>>> Cheri
>>>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that
>>>>> reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with
>>>>>> Faial*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra,
>>>>>> Sao Miguel?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R.
>>>>>> Grande.  It says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the
>>>>>> Isalnd.  Top left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandra Perez
>>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[mances]

Júlio,

Miguel da Rocha and Bárbara Roiz are my ancestors too.
I descend from their daughter Maria de Faria who married Matias Pereira in 
São Pedro, Ribeira Grande, on 3 jul 1666. Matias was from Rabo de Peixe.

I have a lot of ancestors in Ribeira Grande living in the late 1500s and 
early 1600s.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2016 18:51:36 UTC-2, Júlio escreveu:
>
> This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on 29 
> Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in 
> Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec 
> 1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr 
> 1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel 
> Rodrigues de Sousa.
>
> segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez 
> escreveu:
>>
>> Thank you everyone.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're 
>>> in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone 
>>> said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if 
>>> someone came from there.
>>> Cheri
>>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that 
>>>> reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>>>>
>>>> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with 
>>>>> Faial*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>>>> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
>>>>> Miguel?
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  
>>>>> It says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  
>>>>> Top 
>>>>> left.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Sandra Perez
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[JR]

Thanks for all that information, Manuel and Julio. And thank you for the 
children's baptisms Sandra!

Does anyone know if this the same Manuel Faria that married Beatriz da 
Silva in RSSP, May 13- 1598. He was also viuvo of unnamed spouse and she is 
filha de Ambrosio de Fontes and Maria da Silva, all natives or residents of 
RSSP.

JR

On Monday, January 18, 2016 at 8:54:58 PM UTC-5, mances wrote:
>
> Here's what I have in my notes. I hope you can read portuguese:
>
> . Bárbara, b. 12.7.1609 - CCA #88. Filha de Manuel Roiz (sic)* e Maria 
> Luiz. Pd: Luiz Teixeira e Marta de Flores.
>
> *Obs.: O pároco fez confusão com o nome de Manuel de Faria. Há nessa época 
> em São Pedro da Ribeira Grande o casal Manuel Roiz e Maria Luiz que batiza 
> uma filha de nome Águeda justamente em 9.3.1609 - CCA #87. É impossível 
> quatro meses depois terem uma outra filha!! Em 22.8.1610 - CCA #90, Manuel 
> Roiz e Maria Luiz batizam uma outra filha de nome Maria, e novamente deve 
> ser erro do pároco e o nome correto do pai é Manuel de Faria, pois em 
> 12.1.1611 - CCA #90 o pároco registra um outro batismo, cujo nome da 
> criança não foi anotado, do casal Manuel Roiz e Maria Luiz!!
>
> Manoel
>
>
>
> 2016-01-18 22:12 GMT-02:00 Sandra Perez <perezsa...@gmail.com 
> >:
>
>> Manoel, do you have Barbara Roiz' birth?  JR and I have trading info 
>> today.  I am a distant cousin to his wife. I descend from Manoel Faria and 
>> Maria Luis' son Ventura Rois--my 9th great-grandfather.  I will forward 
>> that to you.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Júlio,
>>>
>>> Miguel da Rocha and Bárbara Roiz are my ancestors too.
>>> I descend from their daughter Maria de Faria who married Matias Pereira 
>>> in São Pedro, Ribeira Grande, on 3 jul 1666. Matias was from Rabo de Peixe.
>>>
>>> I have a lot of ancestors in Ribeira Grande living in the late 1500s and 
>>> early 1600s.
>>>
>>> Manoel Cesar Furtado
>>>
>>>
>>> Em segunda-feira, 18 de janeiro de 2016 18:51:36 UTC-2, Júlio escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on 
>>>> 29 Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in 
>>>> Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec 
>>>> 1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr 
>>>> 1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel 
>>>> Rodrigues de Sousa.
>>>>
>>>> segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez 
>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. 
>>>>>> You're in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as 
>>>>>> someone said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of 
>>>>>> Faial" if someone came from there.
>>>>>> Cheri
>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that 
>>>>>>> reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>>>>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha 
>>>>>>>> with Faial*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Júlio]

This couple are my ancestors. his daughter Barbara Rodrigues married on 29 
Feb 1640 in Ribeira Seca, with Miguel da Rocha born on 1 Oct 1618 in 
Ribeira Seca, Son of Manuel da Rocha and Ana Ponte (these married 3 Dec 
1613). This couple had another daughter named Ana Luis married to 8 Apr 
1630 at Ribeira Seca with António de Sousa son Domingos Afonso and Isabel 
Rodrigues de Sousa.

segunda-feira, 18 de Janeiro de 2016 às 13:19:01 UTC-1, Sandra Perez 
escreveu:
>
> Thank you everyone.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:40 PM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're 
>> in 1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone 
>> said earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if 
>> someone came from there.
>> Cheri
>> On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angel...@gmail.com > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that 
>>> reffers to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>>>
>>> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> rfrancis...@comcast.net >:
>>>
>>>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with 
>>>> Faial*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Rick*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>
>>>> *Epping, NH*
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>>>> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
>>>> Miguel?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  
>>>> It says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  
>>>> Top 
>>>> left.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Shirley Allegre]

It also says that Manoel Faria was a WIDOW.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
Miguel?


  It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're in 
1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone said 
earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if someone came 
from there.
  Cheri

  On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angelalo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that reffers 
to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.


2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel 
<rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>:

  I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with Faial



  Rick



  Richard Francis Pimentel

  Epping, NH





  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sandra Perez
  Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
  To: Azores Genealogy Google Group
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao 
Miguel?



  Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  It 
says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  Top left.

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Ângela Loura]

I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that reffers
to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.

2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>:

> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with Faial*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao
> Miguel?
>
>
>
> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  It
> says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  Top
> left.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Cheri Mello]

It's Faial da Terra, even though the priest didn't write it out. You're in
1603, and paper and ink weren't exactly in abundance. And as someone said
earlier, they would state "ilha da Faial" for "island of Faial" if someone
came from there.
Cheri
On Jan 17, 2016 8:35 PM, "Ângela Loura" <angelalo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would say the island of Faial, becausa i don't know anyone that reffers
> to Faial da Terra only by 'Faial'.
>
> 2016-01-18 2:34 GMT+00:00 Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net>:
>
>> *I would say Faial da Terra on Sao Miguel, it does not say Ilha with
>> Faial*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Epping, NH*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sandra Perez
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:46 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy Google Group
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao
>> Miguel?
>>
>>
>>
>> Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  It
>> says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  Top
>> left.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial the Island or Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel?

[Sandra Perez]

Manoel Faria and Maria Luis married 7 Jan 1603 in R. Seca, R. Grande.  It
says Manoel was nal.  ? ? Faial.  Is this Sao Miguel or the Isalnd.  Top
left.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P27.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial Azores

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi All:  I need some help.  I am looking for someone in Faial Azores.  This is 
what I have:

Alameda County Death Certificate:
John Costa Silva
DOB 2 Feb 1881, Faial, Azores
DOD 22 May 1954
Last residence:  Alquire Road, 
Alvarado, Alameda, California
PARENTS
Thomas Silva, from Azores
Mary E., from Azores
SPOUSE
Annie C. Silva (She was a Davilla)

Any help will be appreciated.   Thanks

Shirley in CA

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Yes You should look in the records of NS da Graca in Fayal da Terra on Sao 
Miguel. Usually when the person is from another island the record will have the 
word for island “ilha” followed with the name of the island.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 9:34 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

 

Hello group:

 

I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather Jose de Medeiros's baptismo 
record, so far without any luck. According to his casamentos record to Thmoasia 
Roza (4th g-grandmother) he/his parents George Pereira & Quiteria de Medeiros 
are natural da Eremida de Nossa Senhora da junha da franca da freguesia a 
parochial(?) de Nossa Senhora da Greca do lugar da faial. My question is this, 
shoulf I be looking in the Faial de Terra records or the Ilha Faial?

 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P37.html
 (left page)

 

Thanks,

Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

[Margaret Vicente]

Agua Retorta's church name is Nossa Senhora de Pena de França.  This church
was under the church of Nossa Senhora da Graça in Faial da Terra.  District
of Povoaçao.

Here's Jose's birth record
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792/SMG-PV-AGUARETORTA-B-1768-1792_item1/P69.html
and here's the parents marriage
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P127.html

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Paul  wrote:

> Hello group:
>
> I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather Jose de Medeiros's baptismo
> record, so far without any luck. According to his casamentos record to
> Thmoasia Roza (4th g-grandmother) he/his parents George Pereira & Quiteria
> de Medeiros are natural da Eremida de Nossa Senhora da junha da franca da
> freguesia a parochial(?) de Nossa Senhora da Greca do lugar da faial. My
> question is this, shoulf I be looking in the Faial de Terra records or the
> Ilha Faial?
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P37.html
> (left page)
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> Thanks,
> Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

[Ângela Loura]

Faial da Terra.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igreja_de_Nossa_Senhora_da_Gra%C3%A7a_(Faial_da_Terra)


2015-09-07 14:34 GMT+01:00 Paul :

> Hello group:
>
> I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather Jose de Medeiros's baptismo
> record, so far without any luck. According to his casamentos record to
> Thmoasia Roza (4th g-grandmother) he/his parents George Pereira & Quiteria
> de Medeiros are natural da Eremida de Nossa Senhora da junha da franca da
> freguesia a parochial(?) de Nossa Senhora da Greca do lugar da faial. My
> question is this, shoulf I be looking in the Faial de Terra records or the
> Ilha Faial?
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P37.html
> (left page)
>
> Thanks,
> Paul G.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

[Paul]

Hello group:

I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather Jose de Medeiros's baptismo 
record, so far without any luck. According to his casamentos record to 
Thmoasia Roza (4th g-grandmother) he/his parents George Pereira & Quiteria 
de Medeiros are natural da Eremida de Nossa Senhora da junha da franca da 
freguesia a parochial(?) de Nossa Senhora da Greca do lugar da faial. My 
question is this, shoulf I be looking in the Faial de Terra records or the 
Ilha Faial?


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P37.html
 
(left page)

Thanks,
Paul G.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?

[Shirley Allegre]

It looks like the church of Nossa Senhora da Grace (Our Lady of Grace) in the 
village of Faial da Terra, Island of Sao Miguel.

Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ângela Loura 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 6:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial de Terra or Ilha Faial?


  Faial da Terra.
  
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igreja_de_Nossa_Senhora_da_Gra%C3%A7a_(Faial_da_Terra)
 



  2015-09-07 14:34 GMT+01:00 Paul <pagome...@comcast.net>:

Hello group:


I am trying to find my 4th great grandfather Jose de Medeiros's baptismo 
record, so far without any luck. According to his casamentos record to Thmoasia 
Roza (4th g-grandmother) he/his parents George Pereira & Quiteria de Medeiros 
are natural da Eremida de Nossa Senhora da junha da franca da freguesia a 
parochial(?) de Nossa Senhora da Greca do lugar da faial. My question is this, 
shoulf I be looking in the Faial de Terra records or the Ilha Faial?






http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822/SMG-PV-MAEDEDEUS-C-1801-1822_item1/P37.html
 (left page)



Thanks,
Paul G.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial, Cedros, Santa Barbara

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Could someone tell me what it says about materno and after that.
looks like ignesa se  etc etc etc?  then something about Jose Silveira
Santa vivo (widow)





file:///C:/Users/Lizmig/Desktop/Maria%20Santa%201892bap.htm

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial da Terra marriage

[JR]

I am looking for the marriage of Manuel Raposo de Resendes and Maria Helena 
de Medeiros. Their daughter Jacinta Emilia de Sousa was born in Faial da 
Terra and married in Ponta Garca, in 1887. Maria Helena is said to be from 
Conceicao de Ribeira Grande and Manuel Raposo is from Faial da Terra. I 
have looked in Conceicao and Faial da Terra with no luck. If you recognize 
the names, please contact me.

JR

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FAIAL - photo of whalesmen

[Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva]

Found a picture of the 1950’s. 

 

From the left to the right (Esquerda para a direita): Manuel Machado Medina,
Manuel Tavares da Silva , José Silveira Azevedo, Manuel Francisco da Costa,
Manuel Vieira Soares, Henrique Ávila, Manuel Moniz Soares, Manuel da Rosa.

 

 

http://ribeirensedealma.blogspot.pt/2008/10/lobos-do-mar.html

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FAIAL - photo of whalesmen

[Pat Thornberg]

LOL Bet Jose  Henrique felt out of place!!!  Not named 'Manuel'.




From: Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva eliseuman...@sapo.pt
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 8:15 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] FAIAL - photo of whalesmen


Found a picture of the 1950’s. 
 
From the left to the right (Esquerda para a direita): Manuel Machado Medina, 
Manuel Tavares da Silva , José Silveira Azevedo, Manuel Francisco da Costa, 
Manuel Vieira Soares, Henrique Ávila, Manuel Moniz Soares, Manuel da Rosa.
 
 
http://ribeirensedealma.blogspot.pt/2008/10/lobos-do-mar.html
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Faial

[Adair Borba]

Ava,

Entirely possible, how can I help?

Adair
On Jul 11, 2012, at 10:12 AM, netadosaco...@aol.com wrote:


Adele,

Did you leave a post back in 2008 on the Faial web page?

AVA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial

[netadosAcores]

Adele,
 
Did you leave a post back in 2008 on the Faial web page?
 
AVA

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial

[Mike]

I have a question about the island of Faial, my family had a farm, is it 
possible to narrow down the villages your searching by knowing if certain 
areas of the island is more suitable for farming?
Mike

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial, Manuel Clara Amelia Rose

[Patricia Butcher]

Does anyone have any clues or possible connections to the Manuel  
Clara Amelia Kaishada Rose (Rosa) line from Faial? This info below 
is from a second cousin of mine  is posted on Ancestry. I questioned 
the Kaishada name thinking perhaps it was casada from the 
priest's record  was translated incorrectly but this cousin insists 
that is what his grandmother told him. However, I still feel it is an 
error. Thanks...

Patricia




Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1

1.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I018Clara 
Mary ROSE was born 9 MAR 1888 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and 
died 1986 in Jamestown, RI. She was the daughter of 2. 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I024Manuel 
ROSE and 3. 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I025Clara 
Amelia KAISHADA. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I017Edward 
Robert BARRY 1905 in Newport, RI, son of Henry BARRY and Mary KEAVY. 
He was born 1886 in Rockline, Massachusetts, and died 1954 in Jamestown, RI.



Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2

2.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I024Manuel 
ROSE was born ABT. 1858 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died 
WFT Est. 1893-1949 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.

3.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I025Clara 
Amelia KAISHADA was born ABT. 1858 in Fayal, Azores Islands, 
Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1893-1953 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.


Children of Clara Amelia KAISHADA and Manuel ROSE are:
1. 
i.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I018Clara 
Mary ROSE was born 9 MAR 1888 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and 
died 1986 in Jamestown, RI. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I017Edward 
Robert BARRY 1905 in Newport, RI, son of Henry BARRY and Mary KEAVY. 
He was born 1886 in Rockline, Massachusetts, and died 1954 in Jamestown, RI.

ii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I026Manuel 
ROSE , Jr. was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, 
Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1883-1984.

iii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I027Frank 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1883-1984.

iv.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I028Mary 
ROSE was born 1885 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died WFT 
Est. 1922-1980 in Jamestown, RI. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I361Manuel 
COREY WFT Est. 1900-1934. He was born WFT Est. 1868-1896, and died 
WFT Est. 1922-1980 in Jamestown, RI.

v.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I029Isabel 
ROSE was born ABT. 1890 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, and died 
WFT Est. 1922-1984. She married 
http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I365??? 
MOITOZA WFT Est. 1904-1937. He was born WFT Est. 1871-1897 in Fayal, 
Azores Islands, Portugal, and died WFT Est. 1923-1982 in Santa Clara, CA.

vi.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I392Female
 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1882-1987 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal.

vii.http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=*v95t0821id=I393Male
 
ROSE was born WFT Est. 1877-1905 in Fayal, Azores Islands, Portugal, 
and died WFT Est. 1882-1987.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Faial

[jones guilherme neves filho]

Looking for my ancestor Jose Silveira de Souza, he was the son of name
Ventura Silveira de Souza has been to Brazil around 1800. You know it is
available on the Internet the parish records of Faial?

Jones Guilherme

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FAIAL

[Marek Delacroix]

I'm researching Jose Francisco from Faial born 1832...died in Yreka, Ca 
1901...Thank you for any help


  
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