Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports = Thanks!
Thanks, Rick! Pat McCoy == On 8/24/12, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > This link will take you to the CCA site. The only ones on line are from > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. There is a gap 1884-1894 (don't know why). Horta > and Angra do Heroismo are not on line yet. > > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx > > Rick > > Richard Francis Pimentel > Spring, TX > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, > Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > -Original Message- > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Pat McCoy > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:40 AM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports > > Are there any passports, online, from 1880? > If so, where can I find that link? > Thanks! > > Pat McCoy > > On 8/23/12, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: >> Hi Lester, >> >> >> >> Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones >> from Sao Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means >> It could be the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you >> missed it. If you found his brothers then you know the council and >> village he came from I would search the columns for everyone that came >> from that village. Can you determine his arrival date in the US? If >> you can then I would go to the passport records and start searching >> back from that date it most likely is within a week of leaving the >> Acores. >> >> >> >> I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same >> day. >> All their names were together and they were all from the same village. >> The ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my >> Great grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must >> have had second thoughts about leaving. >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> Richard Francis Pimentel >> >> Spring, TX >> >> Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire >> >> >> >> Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada >> Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores >> >> >> >> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Lester >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports >> >> >> >> Questions about passports: >> >> >> >> 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? >> >> >> >> 2. I have been looking through the "Registo de Passaportes" for a >> person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear >> in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional > means? >> >> >> >> 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and >> probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used >> this passport to travel to the United States? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation >> Azores+directions >> when >> they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No >> Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation >> Azores+directions >> when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No >> Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (v
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
If you are researching the USA - in the South circa Civil War, you get tired of hearing the courthouse burned down and no records are available. One county courthouse burned down 4 times!! Some vets who try to obtain a copy of the DD214 have had to deal with the records being destroyed, if memory serves me correctly, by water damage.and so it goes. Also, I tried to get records for who was in WWI and they also were not available. "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
There's a gap in the records (1884-1894) because they are missing. American ones have missing gaps too :( Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
This link will take you to the CCA site. The only ones on line are from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel. There is a gap 1884-1894 (don't know why). Horta and Angra do Heroismo are not on line yet. http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pat McCoy Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 5:40 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports Are there any passports, online, from 1880? If so, where can I find that link? Thanks! Pat McCoy On 8/23/12, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > Hi Lester, > > > > Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones > from Sao Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means > It could be the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you > missed it. If you found his brothers then you know the council and > village he came from I would search the columns for everyone that came > from that village. Can you determine his arrival date in the US? If > you can then I would go to the passport records and start searching > back from that date it most likely is within a week of leaving the > Acores. > > > > I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same day. > All their names were together and they were all from the same village. > The ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my > Great grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must > have had second thoughts about leaving. > > > > Rick > > > > Richard Francis Pimentel > > Spring, TX > > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada > Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Lester > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports > > > > Questions about passports: > > > > 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? > > > > 2. I have been looking through the "Registo de Passaportes" for a > person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear > in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? > > > > 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and > probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used > this passport to travel to the United States? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation > Azores+directions > when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation > Azores+directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
Are there any passports, online, from 1880? If so, where can I find that link? Thanks! Pat McCoy On 8/23/12, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: > Hi Lester, > > > > Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones from > Sao > Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means It could be > the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you missed it. If you > found his brothers then you know the council and village he came from I > would search the columns for everyone that came from that village. Can you > determine his arrival date in the US? If you can then I would go to the > passport records and start searching back from that date it most likely is > within a week of leaving the Acores. > > > > I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same day. > All their names were together and they were all from the same village. The > ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my Great > grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must have had > second thoughts about leaving. > > > > Rick > > > > Richard Francis Pimentel > > Spring, TX > > Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire > > > > Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, > Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Lester > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports > > > > Questions about passports: > > > > 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? > > > > 2. I have been looking through the "Registo de Passaportes" for a person > who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the > register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? > > > > 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably > not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport > to travel to the United States? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
Lester, I don't know that someone else could leave under someone else's name. Only the port of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is online at this time. You don't state where your ancestors were from. They could have sailed out of Angra on Terceira or out of Horta on Faial. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
Hi Lester, Passports were required to travel (leave) the Acores. Only the ones from Sao Miguel are on line. I would not assume he left by other means It could be the name is wrong or perhaps the writing was bad and you missed it. If you found his brothers then you know the council and village he came from I would search the columns for everyone that came from that village. Can you determine his arrival date in the US? If you can then I would go to the passport records and start searching back from that date it most likely is within a week of leaving the Acores. I do remember two men that applied with my great grandfather the same day. All their names were together and they were all from the same village. The ship sailed a week later. When the ship arrived in NY only my Great grandfather and one of them was on the ship. The other man must have had second thoughts about leaving. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Bretanha, Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports Questions about passports: 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? 2. I have been looking through the "Registo de Passaportes" for a person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport to travel to the United States? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] General Questions about Passports
Questions about passports: 1. Were passports required to leave the Azores? 2. I have been looking through the "Registo de Passaportes" for a person who left the Azores in 1904-1905. If his name does not appear in the register, can I assume that he left through other, unconventional means? 3. There was a passport for an older brother issued in 1905 and probably not used by him. Is it likely that his younger brother used this passport to travel to the United States? Thanks! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
