Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Hi Doug, Yes, it seems many nicks may have not been capturered or dropped if seen as pejorative. With families of certain status it would have been kept from mouth to mouth. Where I was raised everyone had a nick...lucky for me our family name was so unusual they didn't need a qualifier ;) Cheers, Margaret On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM, wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > That's the best definition of an alcunha I've seen. > > My grandfather from Terceira was said to have the alcunha "cebola branca" > (white onion) referring to his blonde hair. And I believe his father had > the same alcunha. But I have never seen it mentioned in any records, so > it's strictly passed down by word of mouth. > > Thanks, > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname > From: Margaret Vicente > Date: Sat, June 08, 2013 5:55 am > To: azores > > Hi, > > There's no correlation in between the words maiato and mulato. A further > search in google turned up a referential work by the the Minho University. > The name is described as an alcunha/nick toponymic of or from the place > of MAIA. > > "Maiato MF Proveniente da Maia" > Link: > http://repositorium.sdum.uminho.pt/bitstream/1822/6934/1/Alcunh.pdf > > Reference: > Citação deste texto publicado: > Teixeira, José, 2007, “Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência > por alcunhas do > Norte de Portugal”, Diacrítica Série Ciências da Linguagem, nº 21/1, > Universidade do > Minho, Braga, pp. 207-239. > Metonímias e metáforas > no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal > José Teixeira > ILCH - Universidade do Minho > jsteixe...@ilch.uminho.pt > > Abstract > The Portuguese word “alcunha” means a non-voluntary nickname, sometimes > with > pejorative meaning and usually used in small localities. The main purpose > of this kind of > nicknames is to capture a detail that makes possible a quick > identification, in other words, to > stress a salient characteristic conducting to an easy referring process. > In this way, the nickname’s social-linguistic strategy can show us the > relevance of > metaphor and, above all, of metonymy as cognitive processes with a great > variation of > linguistic strategies and forms. > > Margaret > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:09 AM, wrote: > >> I forgot to look at Guill's list. My copy is buried somewhere in a box I >> have not brought back into daylight since moving. But that's very >> interesting. But the other name, Malato, is then what must be questioned. >> Yea, it sure sounds similar to "mulato" and that would surely be an alcunha >> imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. >> Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin. >> >> I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira >> named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei >> João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to have descendants in Terceira. >> Maybe there is some linguistic explanation for how Maia could become >> Maiato. But that neglects the Malato derivation information from Guill. >> >> Thanks to the others who mention ancestors and friends with this name. >> It is far more common than I suspected - just not on Pico or Terceira! >> >> Doug da Rocha Holmes >> Sacramento, California >> Pico & Terceira Genealogist >> 916-550-1618 >> www.dholmes.com >> >> >> Original Message >> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname >> From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" >> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 9:59 pm >> To: >> >> *Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation >> as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could >> have started as an alcunha.* >> * * >> *Rick* >> * * >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> *Spring, TX* >> *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * >> * * >> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and >> Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* >> * * >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] >> *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente >> *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PM >> *To:* azores >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname >> ** ** >> Hey there Doug, >> ** ** >> Maiato is not an alcun
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
"maiato" is a gentilic that means a person born in Maia, Portugal. Sometimes it's just a nickname, but many nicknames turned into surnames. In Agualva Terceira there's a surname Engres/Ingres/Ingles, that means "English", that began probably as a nick for an English settler. Joao S. Lopes De: Richard Francis Pimentel Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 7 de Junho de 2013 21:12 Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Hi Doug, This is one I came across on Sao Miguel. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO. I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well. But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island. It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Hi Margaret,That's the best definition of an alcunha I've seen.My grandfather from Terceira was said to have the alcunha "cebola branca" (white onion) referring to his blonde hair. And I believe his father had the same alcunha. But I have never seen it mentioned in any records, so it's strictly passed down by word of mouth.Thanks,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, June 08, 2013 5:55 am To: azores <azores@googlegroups.com> Hi,There's no correlation in between the words maiato and mulato. A further search in google turned up a referential work by the the Minho University. The name is described as an alcunha/nick toponymic of or from the place of MAIA. "Maiato MF Proveniente da Maia"Link: http://repositorium.sdum.uminho.pt/bitstream/1822/6934/1/Alcunh.pdf Reference:Citação deste texto publicado: Teixeira, José, 2007, “Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal”, Diacrítica Série Ciências da Linguagem, nº 21/1, Universidade do Minho, Braga, pp. 207-239. Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal José Teixeira ILCH - Universidade do Minho jsteixe...@ilch.uminho.pt Abstract The Portuguese word “alcunha” means a non-voluntary nickname, sometimes with pejorative meaning and usually used in small localities. The main purpose of this kind of nicknames is to capture a detail that makes possible a quick identification, in other words, to stress a salient characteristic conducting to an easy referring process. In this way, the nickname’s social-linguistic strategy can show us the relevance of metaphor and, above all, of metonymy as cognitive processes with a great variation of linguistic strategies and forms. Margaret On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:09 AM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: I forgot to look at Guill's list. My copy is buried somewhere in a box I have not brought back into daylight since moving. But that's very interesting. But the other name, Malato, is then what must be questioned. Yea, it sure sounds similar to "mulato" and that would surely be an alcunha imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin. I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to have descendants in Terceira. Maybe there is some linguistic explanation for how Maia could become Maiato. But that neglects the Malato derivation information from Guill. Thanks to the others who mention ancestors and friends with this name.It is far more common than I suspected - just not on Pico or Terceira! Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 9:59 pm To: <azores@googlegroups.com> Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could have started as an alcunha. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PMTo: azoresSubject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Hey there Doug, Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. Regards Margaret On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote: I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO. I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well. But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then mad
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Hi, There's no correlation in between the words maiato and mulato. A further search in google turned up a referential work by the the Minho University. The name is described as an alcunha/nick toponymic of or from the place of MAIA. "Maiato MF Proveniente da Maia" Link: http://repositorium.sdum.uminho.pt/bitstream/1822/6934/1/Alcunh.pdf Reference: Citação deste texto publicado: Teixeira, José, 2007, “Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal”, Diacrítica Série Ciências da Linguagem, nº 21/1, Universidade do Minho, Braga, pp. 207-239. Metonímias e metáforas no processo de referência por alcunhas do Norte de Portugal José Teixeira ILCH - Universidade do Minho jsteixe...@ilch.uminho.pt Abstract The Portuguese word “alcunha” means a non-voluntary nickname, sometimes with pejorative meaning and usually used in small localities. The main purpose of this kind of nicknames is to capture a detail that makes possible a quick identification, in other words, to stress a salient characteristic conducting to an easy referring process. In this way, the nickname’s social-linguistic strategy can show us the relevance of metaphor and, above all, of metonymy as cognitive processes with a great variation of linguistic strategies and forms. Margaret On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:09 AM, wrote: > I forgot to look at Guill's list. My copy is buried somewhere in a box I > have not brought back into daylight since moving. But that's very > interesting. But the other name, Malato, is then what must be questioned. > Yea, it sure sounds similar to "mulato" and that would surely be an alcunha > imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. > Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin. > > I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira > named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei > João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to have descendants in Terceira. > Maybe there is some linguistic explanation for how Maia could become > Maiato. But that neglects the Malato derivation information from Guill. > > Thanks to the others who mention ancestors and friends with this name. > It is far more common than I suspected - just not on Pico or Terceira! > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > > Original Message > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname > From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" > Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 9:59 pm > To: > > *Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation > as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could > have started as an alcunha.* > * * > *Rick* > * * > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * > * * > *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* > * * > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Margaret Vicente > *Sent:* Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PM > *To:* azores > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname > ** ** > Hey there Doug, > ** ** > Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who > bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. > ** ** > Regards > ** ** > Margaret > ** ** > ** ** > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and > sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I > visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I > thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in > the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. > ** ** > I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a > lady named MAIATO. > I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since > it's a name on Pico that I know so well. > But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. > ** ** > I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao > Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I > detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family > that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. > ** ** > Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the > populations for each village and island. > It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling > in the Azores these days
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
In re-looking the birth record for Jose do Rego Maiato this morning; his father (Manuel do Rego) is from Estrela in Ribeira Grande. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 11:46 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname I have not traced this family back. I have the birth record of Jose but it is not a good copy I can make out his mother Charabina de Jesus is from Senor Bom Jesus. His father is from another parish. His grandfather went only by the name do Rego. His father on the baptismal record is also written as do Rego. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 7:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Thanks, Richard. Very interesting. Is this a family you have traced back, by chance? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 <http://www.dholmes.com> www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" < <mailto:rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 5:12 pm To: < <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com> Hi Doug, This is one I came across on Sao Miguel. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:p...@dholmes.com> p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:52 PM To: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO. I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well. But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island. It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in <http://Ancestry.com> Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 <http://www.dholmes.com> www.dholmes.com -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/Azores> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, suc
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
I forgot to look at Guill's list. My copy is buried somewhere in a box I have not brought back into daylight since moving. But that's very interesting. But the other name, Malato, is then what must be questioned. Yea, it sure sounds similar to "mulato" and that would surely be an alcunha imposed by others, not so willingly adopted for use, I wouldn't think. Malato has a Latin ring to it - maybe some Italian origin.I have ancestors from Pico named MAIA. And some ancestors from Terceira named MAIO. And I see a noble family MAIA who is described as "Vedor do Rei João I, 1º senhor da Trofa" that seems to have descendants in Terceira. Maybe there is some linguistic explanation for how Maia could become Maiato. But that neglects the Malato derivation information from Guill.Thanks to the others who mention ancestors and friends with this name.It is far more common than I suspected - just not on Pico or Terceira!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message ---- Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 9:59 pm To: <azores@googlegroups.com> Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could have started as an alcunha. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret VicenteSent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PMTo: azoresSubject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Hey there Doug, Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. Regards Margaret On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, <p...@dholmes.com> wrote:I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well.But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island.It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Maiato is listed as a surname by James Guill and it gives a Derivation as Malato. Could that refer or mean mixed race? If so then the name could have started as an alcunha. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Vicente Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 6:54 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Hey there Doug, Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. Regards Margaret On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, wrote: I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO. I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well. But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island. It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
I have not traced this family back. I have the birth record of Jose but it is not a good copy I can make out his mother Charabina de Jesus is from Senor Bom Jesus. His father is from another parish. His grandfather went only by the name do Rego. His father on the baptismal record is also written as do Rego. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 7:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname Thanks, Richard. Very interesting. Is this a family you have traced back, by chance? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 <http://www.dholmes.com> www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" < <mailto:rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 5:12 pm To: < <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com> Hi Doug, This is one I came across on Sao Miguel. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com [ <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:p...@dholmes.com> p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:52 PM To: <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO. I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well. But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island. It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in <http://Ancestry.com> Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 <http://www.dholmes.com> www.dholmes.com -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/Azores> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at <http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en> http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Hey there Doug, Maiato is not an alcunha. It is a surname and I have close friends who bear that name from Sao Miguel Island. Regards Margaret On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and > sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I > visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I > thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in > the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. > > I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a > lady named MAIATO. > I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since > it's a name on Pico that I know so well. > But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. > > I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao > Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I > detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family > that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. > > Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the > populations for each village and island. > It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling > in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, > etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few > centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there > are many others who came but left little mark. > > And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively > rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems > to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. > > > -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
My great grandfather was Ventura Pacheco de Mello of Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel. He was born in 1885 to Francisco Pacheco de Mello and Rita de Jesus Maiato of Rabo de Peixe. His maternal grandfather was listed as Manoel Costa Maiato. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
Thanks, Richard.Very interesting. Is this a family you have traced back, by chance?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname From: "Richard Francis Pimentel" <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Date: Fri, June 07, 2013 5:12 pm To: <azores@googlegroups.com> Hi Doug, This is one I came across on Sao Miguel. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TXFormerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of p...@dholmes.comSent: Friday, June 07, 2013 4:52 PMTo: azores@googlegroups.comSubject: [AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more. I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well.But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time. I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese. Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island.It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark. And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha? Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] MAIATO surname
I don't know about you, but I get used to the names in each village and sort of want them to be the same now as they were 100+ years ago. So when I visited places on my trips to the Azores, I felt a little more alien than I thought I would. If I had seen all the same names I got used to seeing in the old records, I think I would have felt right at home more.I think of this because I have a picture of a tombstone from Pico of a lady named MAIATO.I never heard of this name and perhaps feel a little out of touch since it's a name on Pico that I know so well.But I know it only from 100 years ago and not the present time.I also found one Maiato on Terceira, but the rest seem to be from Sao Miguel. Maybe someone on this list will recognize this surname. I thought I detected a little Oriental look and figured maybe it's a Chinese family that settled on Pico and then made their name sound more Portuguese.Of course, modern mobility accounts for this transformation in the populations for each village and island.It would not be so surprising to find German and Swedish people settling in the Azores these days, having children who are baptized as Catholics, etc. After all, many notable foreign families did this in the past few centuries, like DART, DABNEY, STREET, STONE, ZERBONE, etc. And then there are many others who came but left little mark.And now there is MAIATO. I wonder about their origins. It's a relatively rare name in Portuguese these days. Everyone I see in Ancestry.com seems to have Portuguese origins. Is it an alcunha?Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
