Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Karen, In the have noticed on some of the ships' manifest, that some boats leaving out of Sao Miguel would then go to the other islands to pick up passengers. I believe I saw - Sao Miguel/Fayal (that was the spelling) and Sao Miguel/Terceria. _http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/_ (http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/) Have fun searching. best, grace best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste In a message dated 8/2/2011 3:15:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Sorry, I think I'm going to have to disagree with that statement. You'll find 3 ports in the Azores: Ponta Delgada (Sao Miguel), Angra (on Terceira), and Horta (on Faial - Fayal is the old spelling). People reported to one of the ports to register that they were leaving. These records are what make up the passaportes. The books stayed at those ports and are now housed in their respective archive. (The dates are pretty continuous too, so the books could not have gone to another island to register people there). Now some people may have had to leave sooner than the boat that was leaving their home port. So they could have gone to any port. I research the Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel the most. Sure, I have seen other people from other islands leaving from Ponta Delgada. They probably could not wait for the boat that sailed from their home port. However, the vast majority of people using Ponta Delgada came from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. However, when Hawaii needed people, they sailed from the port of Ponta Delgada only. So if your people came to Hawaii, they had to use the Ponta Delgada port if they were Azorean. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Thanks Cheri, that helps a lot. My problem stems from the fact that his name is an issue. On St. Jorge he was known as Jose Teixeira Luiz, but in the US he was known as Joe L. Ayres. I have searched both names with all kinds of variations with no luck. Will keep looking, Karen Silva Hillman Researching Silva, Luiz, Silveira, Sousa on St. Jorge, Azores, Portugal From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:52 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure Sorry, I think I'm going to have to disagree with that statement. You'll find 3 ports in the Azores: Ponta Delgada (Sao Miguel), Angra (on Terceira), and Horta (on Faial - Fayal is the old spelling). People reported to one of the ports to register that they were leaving. These records are what make up the passaportes. The books stayed at those ports and are now housed in their respective archive. (The dates are pretty continuous too, so the books could not have gone to another island to register people there). Now some people may have had to leave sooner than the boat that was leaving their home port. So they could have gone to any port. I research the Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel the most. Sure, I have seen other people from other islands leaving from Ponta Delgada. They probably could not wait for the boat that sailed from their home port. However, the vast majority of people using Ponta Delgada came from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. However, when Hawaii needed people, they sailed from the port of Ponta Delgada only. So if your people came to Hawaii, they had to use the Ponta Delgada port if they were Azorean. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Thanks Grace. I had noticed that too. Will keep searching. Karen Silva Hillman Researching Silva, Luiz, Silveira, Sousa on St. Jorge, Azores, Portugal From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:27 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure Karen, In the have noticed on some of the ships' manifest, that some boats leaving out of Sao Miguel would then go to the other islands to pick up passengers. I believe I saw - Sao Miguel/Fayal (that was the spelling) and Sao Miguel/Terceria. http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ Have fun searching. best, grace best, grace falcone Searching Family names: Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, Arruda, Pereira Villages on San Miguel, Azores: Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste In a message dated 8/2/2011 3:15:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Thank you Cheri for the information on departures. I will widen my search. Maybe someday I'll find him. Karen Silva Hillman Researching Silva, Luiz, Silveira, Sousa on St. Jorge, Azores, Portugal From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:15 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Good afternoon. I have been trying for sometime to find my grandfather, Jose Teixeira Luiz, on a passenger list. According to family tradition, he and his brother Manuel left Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge to come to the US together. This would have occurred sometime between 1898 - 1903. Where would be the logical port of departure for residents of Sao Jorge? Sao Miguel? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure
Thanks Cheri, I will widen my search and look at Horta and Angra. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:15 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Port of Departure Karen, I think Horta on Faial is the closest port. Either that or Angra on Terceira. Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel is definitely the furthest port from Sao Jorge island. I would guess the port closest to home would be where an ancestor would leave. But if they had to leave soon, they may have gone to any port to get out the soonest. I've seen a few Sao Jorge people leaving from Sao Miguel, but the vast majority are from Sao Miguel and Santa Maria islands. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
