[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-18 Thread linda
Hi Suzanne,

If I read the record rightly, it says this:

Antonio Francisco Duarte was baptised and ...[discharged of his lenten 
obligations]... at  the Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, City 
of Horta
Anna Luiza, [is a] native of the Parish Matriz Church do Santissimo 
Salvador of the same City [Horta] where [she] the bride was baptised, 
additionally she was... [discharged of her lenten obligations]... in the 
above said Parish of S.a da Luz [Flamengos]

hope that helps,

:)

Linda

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-8, Sme wrote:
>
> Is this a parish on Faial?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>
> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of 
> parents.
>
> Thank you kindly.
> Suzanne
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-19 Thread Tomas Leal
I'd be very interested in knowing what you come up with for this marriage. 
My grandfather's family is from Flamengos, and I've long been told that the 
Duartes are cousins. My grandfather emigrated in 1907 with his best friend 
and "cousin" Francisco Duarte. They were both about 18 at the time, 
sponsored by their older brothers who had settled in the East Bay area 
across from San Francisco, and moved and settled in the City. I knew the 
next generation of offspring of "Frank" Duarte, and they were certain the 
Duartes and Leals were related, as my aunt and father had insisted, but no 
one knew how. Obviously, the connection was too far back for anyone to know 
exactly.

What's interesting is the Duarte name came from the Flemish founder Josse 
van Heurter, who first settled along the shore at Praia do Almoxarife but 
left due to a lack of potable water and some pirate attacks, and then to 
the valley just behind, Vale dos Flamengos, where the colony did well. 
"Duarte" also appears as "Dutra" and "D'Utra" as does the name of the "big 
city" of Horta. My Leal family name is not from the Flemish, though the 
family name "Silveira" runs through all five generations ahead of my 
grandfather that I can trace. All males use Silveira as their middle name, 
which could indicate the Leals married into and settled on land originally 
belonging to a Silveira family. This name came from a literal translation 
of Willem van der Hagen, a leader of the colony who traveled throughout the 
"triangle" of Faial, Pico and São Jorge under the name Guillerme da 
Silveira. Three of his children (two daughters, one son) remained in 
Flamengos the rest of their lives, and the daughters had children, many of 
whom used "Silveira" as their primary family identification rather than 
their fathers' names (which were inserted elsewhere). 

Somewhere, I'm guessing, offspring of van der Hagen (Silveira) and van 
Heurter (Duarte) married and formed the connection my family and the 
Duartes claimed existed. However, I cannot find it. Similarly, I cannot 
find a link from the offspring of van der Hagen and the Silveira family 
that features so prominently in my Leal family names. Sigh! I would be most 
interested in knowing what you're able to come up with regarding any 
Duartes of Flamengos. Perhaps we can find a similar name somewhere back on 
our trees. Alas, anyone in California who might have any clue is long dead.

Tomás Leal


On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 1:13:58 AM UTC-1, Sme wrote:
>
> Is this a parish on Faial?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>
> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of 
> parents.
>
> Thank you kindly.
> Suzanne
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-20 Thread climbatree2
Yes, it is.  Those were the parts I could not understand and couldn't get 
the translation to figure out :). Thank you ever so much.

On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:26:31 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>
> Hi Suzanne,
>
> If I read the record rightly, it says this:
>
> Antonio Francisco Duarte was baptised and ...[discharged of his lenten 
> obligations]... at  the Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, City 
> of Horta
> Anna Luiza, [is a] native of the Parish Matriz Church do Santissimo 
> Salvador of the same City [Horta] where [she] the bride was baptised, 
> additionally she was... [discharged of her lenten obligations]... in the 
> above said Parish of S.a da Luz [Flamengos]
>
> hope that helps,
>
> :)
>
> Linda
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-8, Sme wrote:
>>
>> Is this a parish on Faial?
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>>
>> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets of 
>> parents.
>>
>> Thank you kindly.
>> Suzanne
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Name of the parish and island

2017-02-20 Thread linda
My pleasure. :)

best of luck with your research,

Linda



On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 7:26:53 AM UTC-8, climb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Yes, it is.  Those were the parts I could not understand and couldn't get 
> the translation to figure out :). Thank you ever so much.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 7:26:31 PM UTC-8, linda wrote:
>>
>> Hi Suzanne,
>>
>> If I read the record rightly, it says this:
>>
>> Antonio Francisco Duarte was baptised and ...[discharged of his lenten 
>> obligations]... at  the Parish Church of Nossa Senhora da Conceicao, City 
>> of Horta
>> Anna Luiza, [is a] native of the Parish Matriz Church do Santissimo 
>> Salvador of the same City [Horta] where [she] the bride was baptised, 
>> additionally she was... [discharged of her lenten obligations]... in the 
>> above said Parish of S.a da Luz [Flamengos]
>>
>> hope that helps,
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 6:13:58 PM UTC-8, Sme wrote:
>>>
>>> Is this a parish on Faial?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1820-1860_item1/P89.html
>>>
>>> Marriage of Antonio Francisco Duarte and Anna Luisa,for  both sets 
>>> of parents.
>>>
>>> Thank you kindly.
>>> Suzanne
>>>
>>

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