[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Theresa, Thank you once again for you input!! I am bit confussed here as I have been assuming that Macedo would have been Rosa's maiden name and that Vieira was her middle name. On Rose's dauther's death certificate Rose is listed as Rose Macedo. In Rose's obituary she is listed as VINCENT, Rose V. (Macedo). Then in her son Walter's obituary she is listed as Rose (Vieira) Vincent. Does this mean she was married to a Macedo before she married Joseph C. Vincent? I feel I must be missing something. I will have to send off for Rose and Joseph's marriage record and their death certificates before I can go any further. I can see that now. In a box of the few items my husband has from his mother's things is a small vial labeled St. Jude Blessed Oil. Below this it says, Our Lady's Chapel, 600 Pleasant Street, New Bedford, MASS. I have no idea what this oil may have been used for as I am not Catholic as the Vincent family was but it may be a start for searching, maybe. Ginnie On Oct 26, 7:24 pm, Theresa Entin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The Rosa and William I found were both born in Massachusetts. She is born in Somerset and he is born is Dighton. Dighton is a small town next to Somerset. Although William is born in Dighton, his parents are listed as living in Somerset and his birth is registered in Somerset MA. I checked the census in 1900 and they are not listed in MA for Rosa and her parents. As a matter of fact, I didn't find them any where. If the obit said she was born in Somerset, then I do think that the Rosa I found is the correct one. I also found Joseph Vincent and his family in 1930 in Fairhaven, and in 1920 in Rehoboth. What I found interesting in Rehoboth, was that there were other families named Vincent living near them. They too, were from Fayal. I think they are somehow connected. I would try to find the marriage of Rosa and Joseph Vincent in Massachusetts. You don't have the city or town so you will have to try the state of Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Registry of Vital Records and Statistics would have a copy of the marriage record. It would have their parent's names. I too saw the 1930 census, it looked like 1915 to me as the date of immigration. Rehoboth is close to Somerset, Fairhaven isn't that close to Somerset and even further from Rehoboth. Interesting!! Good luck, Theresa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal Hello Theresa and thank you for you reply! In your letter you say Rosa Viera born in Somerset...is this in U.S. state of Massachusetts or is it a town in the Azores? I really have no way of telling if this is my family yet. I just don't have enough info compiled. This is what I know of Rosa Rose Vieira Macedo. This full: name for her was listed in her son's, Walter Vincent, newspaper obituary. Rosa married Joseph C. Vincent about 1915 (this deduced from the 1930 U.S. Federal Census), she had 7 children; Edward, born abt. 1916; Albert, born abt. 1918; Walter, born 18 Oct. 1919; John, born abt. 1921; Harold, born abt. 1923; Everet, born abt. 1926; Earl, born abt. 1929; and Ethel May (my husband's mother) born 3 May 1931 in Rhode Island, married 6 November 1954 at St. Francis Xavier Church in East Providence, Rhode Island to Noel Vernon Bowers and Ethel died 1 August 1964. Rosa died 16 June 1976 in Riverside, Rhode Island. My husband's father carried his two small sons back to Arkansas to live with his own family after the passing of his beloved Ethel. My husband has some memory of his Vincent family but nothing that helps with tracing his family roots. Ginnie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Hello Ginny, One of the most confusing parts of Portuguese genealogy is the usage of multiple names. In one family, all the children may have different last names. The names could belong to the father, the mother, a great grandmother maternal, a great grandfather maternal, any combination of names you can think of, this is something we don't see here in the USA. The Portuguese also used double and sometimes even triple last names. My grand father was known as Antonio Oliveira and Antonio Oliveira Soares, and Antonio Soares. All of which were considered his legal name. In Somerset, which is an old Yankee community. The Town Clerk registered the child as Rosa Viera. The clerk probably wasn't interested in double last names as it wasn't something they were used to. So, I don't think your Rosa was married prior to her marriage to Jose Vincent. She carried a double last name. When you have researched that line you will see where those two last names came from. As an aside to the clerks registering the births of children, this is a TRUE story that happened in Somerset. My cousin's birth at the beginning of the 1920's was registered by his Azorean parents. When he went to get a birth certificate from the Town Clerk, he was amazed to find out what was listed on the certificate. He was listed as Probably William Soares. It took alot of paper work to correct his birth certificate. Did Rosa have a brother named William or other siblings? I didn't find any. Sometimes you can get to where you want to be by tracing a sibling. I also didn't find that family in any of the census. About the blessed oil, you will have to ask the more informed people on the list about it. Also, someone should know what church is located at that address, I'm sorry I don't. Good luck, Theresa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal Theresa, Thank you once again for you input!! I am bit confussed here as I have been assuming that Macedo would have been Rosa's maiden name and that Vieira was her middle name. On Rose's dauther's death certificate Rose is listed as Rose Macedo. In Rose's obituary she is listed as VINCENT, Rose V. (Macedo). Then in her son Walter's obituary she is listed as Rose (Vieira) Vincent. Does this mean she was married to a Macedo before she married Joseph C. Vincent? I feel I must be missing something. I will have to send off for Rose and Joseph's marriage record and their death certificates before I can go any further. I can see that now. In a box of the few items my husband has from his mother's things is a small vial labeled St. Jude Blessed Oil. Below this it says, Our Lady's Chapel, 600 Pleasant Street, New Bedford, MASS. I have no idea what this oil may have been used for as I am not Catholic as the Vincent family was but it may be a start for searching, maybe. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Try Jose Vincencio. Good luck and fun in the search! Nancy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:23:31 -0400Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of FayalTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a message dated 10/25/2008 12:54:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have searched all the Ships passengers lists that I can find andhave yet to find Joseph Vincent on any.Did you try José Vicente?_ Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Hi, The Rosa and William I found were both born in Massachusetts. She is born in Somerset and he is born is Dighton. Dighton is a small town next to Somerset. Although William is born in Dighton, his parents are listed as living in Somerset and his birth is registered in Somerset MA. I checked the census in 1900 and they are not listed in MA for Rosa and her parents. As a matter of fact, I didn't find them any where. If the obit said she was born in Somerset, then I do think that the Rosa I found is the correct one. I also found Joseph Vincent and his family in 1930 in Fairhaven, and in 1920 in Rehoboth. What I found interesting in Rehoboth, was that there were other families named Vincent living near them. They too, were from Fayal. I think they are somehow connected. I would try to find the marriage of Rosa and Joseph Vincent in Massachusetts. You don't have the city or town so you will have to try the state of Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Registry of Vital Records and Statistics would have a copy of the marriage record. It would have their parent's names. I too saw the 1930 census, it looked like 1915 to me as the date of immigration. Rehoboth is close to Somerset, Fairhaven isn't that close to Somerset and even further from Rehoboth. Interesting!! Good luck, Theresa - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal Hello Theresa and thank you for you reply! In your letter you say Rosa Viera born in Somerset...is this in U.S. state of Massachusetts or is it a town in the Azores? I really have no way of telling if this is my family yet. I just don't have enough info compiled. This is what I know of Rosa Rose Vieira Macedo. This full: name for her was listed in her son's, Walter Vincent, newspaper obituary. Rosa married Joseph C. Vincent about 1915 (this deduced from the 1930 U.S. Federal Census), she had 7 children; Edward, born abt. 1916; Albert, born abt. 1918; Walter, born 18 Oct. 1919; John, born abt. 1921; Harold, born abt. 1923; Everet, born abt. 1926; Earl, born abt. 1929; and Ethel May (my husband's mother) born 3 May 1931 in Rhode Island, married 6 November 1954 at St. Francis Xavier Church in East Providence, Rhode Island to Noel Vernon Bowers and Ethel died 1 August 1964. Rosa died 16 June 1976 in Riverside, Rhode Island. My husband's father carried his two small sons back to Arkansas to live with his own family after the passing of his beloved Ethel. My husband has some memory of his Vincent family but nothing that helps with tracing his family roots. Ginnie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Ginnie - Just in case he came in through Ellis Island, you might want to check there if you have not already. The web site requires a password, but it's a free service. I checked for Joseph Vincent around your time period, and found several - but did not go any further.www.ellisisland.org Good luck - Marcia On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello group, I am new to this group and Azores research. My husband's maternal grandfather was Joseph C. Vincent. The earliest I have found him in U.S. census is 1920 in Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts. The year of immigration is listed as 1915 and his age is listed as 27. In the 1930 Bristol County, Massachusetts census his year of immigration is listed as 1910 and his age is not readable. This is what I know of Joseph..He married Rosa Vieira Macedo about 1915 most likely in Bristol County, Massachusetts. They lived in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to East Providence, Rhode Island where they lived out their final years. My husband's mother, Ethel May Vincent Bowers, was born in Rhode Island in May of 1931. Joseph died in 1974 in Riverside, Rhode Island. Rosa (Rose) Vieira Macedo Vincent was born in Somerset, Massachusetts, 29 January 1895 and died in East Providence, Rhode Island 16 June 1976. This information came from a newspaper obituary. Although Rosa was born in the U.S., she is listed as an alien in 1920 census. I have been unable to find her with parents in 1910. I am sure there are many spellings of Macedo and I might be missing her because of this. I have searched all the Ships passengers lists that I can find and have yet to find Joseph Vincent on any. I would love to know what ship he immigrated on and to what port. Also, anything on his family in Fayal. Thanks to anyone who might be able to help sort out this ramblings of mine. Ginnie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Ginnie, Before the women's rights passed in the 1920s, any American woman who married an alien became an alien. That is why you see her as an alien on the 1920 U.S. Census. Your husband's ancestor most likely came over as Jose. I don't know the Portuguese spelling for Vincent...maybe Vincente? Others who have that name in their family tree will answer. Get the death certificates for the two ancestors and see what it says about their parents and perhaps their birth village. Ask the church about Ethel's baptism and if it lists where the parents were born. You'll also need to find the church where Joseph married Rosa to see if that lists the village. For more ideas of where to look for the village, go here: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vincent of Fayal
Hi, I found a Rosa Viera born in Somerset in Nov. (no day,) 1894. She is the daughter of Antone Viera and Mary Viera. He is born in the Western Isles and she in Somerset. He is a farmer. I also found a William Viera born in Dighton, although his parents are living in Somerset and the birth is listed in Somerset. His date of birth is Feb 1, 1892. His father is Antone Viera and his mother is Mary Frazer. Both are born in the Western Isle. No Antone Viera/Vierira marriage is listed. Are these your people? Could this be your family? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Vincent of Fayal Hello group, I am new to this group and Azores research. My husband's maternal grandfather was Joseph C. Vincent. The earliest I have found him in U.S. census is 1920 in Rehoboth, Bristol County, Massachusetts. The year of immigration is listed as 1915 and his age is listed as 27. In the 1930 Bristol County, Massachusetts census his year of immigration is listed as 1910 and his age is not readable. This is what I know of Joseph..He married Rosa Vieira Macedo about 1915 most likely in Bristol County, Massachusetts. They lived in Bristol County, Massachusetts and moved to East Providence, Rhode Island where they lived out their final years. My husband's mother, Ethel May Vincent Bowers, was born in Rhode Island in May of 1931. Joseph died in 1974 in Riverside, Rhode Island. Rosa (Rose) Vieira Macedo Vincent was born in Somerset, Massachusetts, 29 January 1895 and died in East Providence, Rhode Island 16 June 1976. This information came from a newspaper obituary. Although Rosa was born in the U.S., she is listed as an alien in 1920 census. I have been unable to find her with parents in 1910. I am sure there are many spellings of Macedo and I might be missing her because of this. I have searched all the Ships passengers lists that I can find and have yet to find Joseph Vincent on any. I would love to know what ship he immigrated on and to what port. Also, anything on his family in Fayal. Thanks to anyone who might be able to help sort out this ramblings of mine. Ginnie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
