Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
OK, do I misunderstand the conversation? I've not had time to follow it properly this weekend. But I wonder what privacy of genealogical data or its public nature has to do with it. Do I correctly undersatnd that Dropbox is a place you can put your gedcom's or backed up genealogical databases to access them at a later time, and others cannot access them? If so, I'd use it! Dora - Original Message - From: Sam Koester To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:29 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 Kathy; Please know that I have not been nor am I now trying to create a problem or disagree with anyone's use of DB. I'm just trying to get educated and no, I don't put social security numbers in my database unless that person has died. I do have living peoples full names, addresses, parents, siblings, children, etc. though. Cheri; Thank you, I will check on what Eastman has to say about identity theft. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:21 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 Repost for Kathy Cardoza: Sam The private information for others you are so concerned about is going to be mostly public information, anyway. Unless, of course, you are including people's Social Security numbers in your files,which I would always advise against. That info is more likely to be illegally gotten through other means than by services such as Dropbox. Remember, It is NOT seen by the public. The issue of privatizing an individuals information is handled by your genealogy program, if at all,and is not the job of Dropbox. That is not what DB is. It is for backing up your data, storing it in a safe, encrypted file, for you to access AND for syncing your data between two or more computers, if you choose to do that. If you are still not totally comfortable using services like Dropbox, just don't do it! Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. This email was scanned by VIPRE version 4.0.3904 when it was sent, using definitions version 9100 -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Yes, Dora, go back and check the archives to catch up on this 23-message thread (too much to rehash): http://goo.gl/YcfZD Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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I save my gedcom to dropbox and run family tree maker from dropbox... It syncs between all of my computers and I don't have to worry about updating info when I go from computer to computer...and it is sniff site backup as well... Could not ask for anything else... On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Dora, go back and check the archives to catch up on this 23-message thread (too much to rehash): http://goo.gl/YcfZD Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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FYI, if you invite others to drop box and they join ( not sure how many), you get upgraded for free. Not sure of the details,but check it out. We use this at work all the time. Yvonne -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
Kathy, This explanation has been very helpful to me. Thank you for being so thorough in your explanation. Not to be a worry wart which I admit to, but; when you say DB is encrypted, aren't all the banks and the govt. databases encrypted and they have been hacked. I guess I just worry that the people who do identity thefts would find this a database worth hacking since it would give them all kinds of vital information on a person. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks for taking the time, Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Cardoza Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:18 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 OK, Cheri . I'm chiming in. :) I have used Dropbox for quite a while now and I love it! It is safe to use as everything is encrypted. Dropbox can be used as a backup service or (as I use it) to keep both of my computers, my iPad, and my iPhone all in sync. I store ALL of my genealogy files in my DB. That includes digital files of census, church records, vital records, etc. and photos. Also, anything that I want to be available to me on my other computer, is saved in my DB. For instance, I have a program that stores all the serial numbers and other info for all my programs. That is stored in my DB so that I can access it from either computer. I also store all my genealogy program files in my DB. Dropbox syncs all the changes I make to my file so that when I want to work on it on my desktop computer, I am assured that I am working on the most current version of my data. Important things to know about Dropbox It is a wonderful tool but you need to understand how it works, so that you can use it correctly, without any problems, if you are using it on more than one computer or on multiple devices. You must understand that whatever you put in your DB, gets synced up to the cloud where it lives and is available to use as a backup. So, at the very least, your data is still very much on your own computer's hard drive as well as up in the cloud. If you are using DB to sync your data to a second computer, then the data is copied from the cloud back down to your second computer. So far so good. If you are using Dropbox to sync, the most important thing to know and remember is that you CANNOT have a file you store in the DB open on Computer A and then open that same file on Computer B at the same time. You will get conflicted copy errors. It isn't necessarily a catastrophe, but will necessitate you having to choose which file to keep from the two that you will now have in your DB. That COULD cause you major headaches. You just have to understand how DB works in this regard and always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS .. did I say always ?.close the file on one computer before you open it on the other. An example of this would be: I use Reunion for Mac for my genealogy. If I am adding info to my Reunion file on my laptop but know I want to go sit at my desktop computer to do further work, I quit Reunion on my laptop. I walk down to my office, wait a minute for the files to sync to my desktop computer, then open the Reunion file on my desktop Mac. Wala! I can continue working on the same file, right where I left off on the laptop. When I'm finished with working on Reunion on my desktop Mac, I quit Reunion and DB syncs the file. Oh, BTW, DB provides you with a menubar icon that quickly lets you see if files are synced and up to date, are currently syncing, or what has just finished syncing like the Reunion family file from my example. Because I store so much in DB, I upgraded my account to 50 GB sometime ago. I find it to be indispensable to me, both as a backup and a syncing utility. If you have an iPhone or iPad, Dropbox has a free app for those devices (and probably others, too). Those work great, too! I can view any genealogy document I own right on those other devices. BTW, I also have other backup systems in place to insure the safety of all my files so, for me, DB is more for syncing. It is a wonderful utility that is free for 2 GB of storage. I would wholeheartedly recommend it! I apologize for being so long winded but I hope this has been helpful to some folks. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Apr 21, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't think so. I think I remember the web site said it's encrypted. I had Dropbox on my computer at one time, but my computer was having problems, so I removed it. I need another kind of back up, and since my computer
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
Thanks, it was very clear for me the way you described it. I have wanted to access my Legacy file fm iPhone when I'm FHC: sounds like DP will allow this. Maria Elena On Apr 22, 2011, at 12:18 AM, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote: OK, Cheri . I'm chiming in. :) I have used Dropbox for quite a while now and I love it! It is safe to use as everything is encrypted. Dropbox can be used as a backup service or (as I use it) to keep both of my computers, my iPad, and my iPhone all in sync. I store ALL of my genealogy files in my DB. That includes digital files of census, church records, vital records, etc. and photos. Also, anything that I want to be available to me on my other computer, is saved in my DB. For instance, I have a program that stores all the serial numbers and other info for all my programs. That is stored in my DB so that I can access it from either computer. I also store all my genealogy program files in my DB. Dropbox syncs all the changes I make to my file so that when I want to work on it on my desktop computer, I am assured that I am working on the most current version of my data. Important things to know about Dropbox It is a wonderful tool but you need to understand how it works, so that you can use it correctly, without any problems, if you are using it on more than one computer or on multiple devices. You must understand that whatever you put in your DB, gets synced up to the cloud where it lives and is available to use as a backup. So, at the very least, your data is still very much on your own computer's hard drive as well as up in the cloud. If you are using DB to sync your data to a second computer, then the data is copied from the cloud back down to your second computer. So far so good. If you are using Dropbox to sync, the most important thing to know and remember is that you CANNOT have a file you store in the DB open on Computer A and then open that same file on Computer B at the same time. You will get conflicted copy errors. It isn't necessarily a catastrophe, but will necessitate you having to choose which file to keep from the two that you will now have in your DB. That COULD cause you major headaches. You just have to understand how DB works in this regard and always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS .. did I say always ?.close the file on one computer before you open it on the other. An example of this would be: I use Reunion for Mac for my genealogy. If I am adding info to my Reunion file on my laptop but know I want to go sit at my desktop computer to do further work, I quit Reunion on my laptop. I walk down to my office, wait a minute for the files to sync to my desktop computer, then open the Reunion file on my desktop Mac. Wala! I can continue working on the same file, right where I left off on the laptop. When I'm finished with working on Reunion on my desktop Mac, I quit Reunion and DB syncs the file. Oh, BTW, DB provides you with a menubar icon that quickly lets you see if files are synced and up to date, are currently syncing, or what has just finished syncing like the Reunion family file from my example. Because I store so much in DB, I upgraded my account to 50 GB sometime ago. I find it to be indispensable to me, both as a backup and a syncing utility. If you have an iPhone or iPad, Dropbox has a free app for those devices (and probably others, too). Those work great, too! I can view any genealogy document I own right on those other devices. BTW, I also have other backup systems in place to insure the safety of all my files so, for me, DB is more for syncing. It is a wonderful utility that is free for 2 GB of storage. I would wholeheartedly recommend it! I apologize for being so long winded but I hope this has been helpful to some folks. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Apr 21, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't think so. I think I remember the web site said it's encrypted. I had Dropbox on my computer at one time, but my computer was having problems, so I removed it. I need another kind of back up, and since my computer problem is solved, I was going to try Dropbox again. Hope to watch the webinar tomorrow. I know Kathy Cardoza uses it. (Kathy's cue to chime in here). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged,
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Hi Cheri, Not to drop a monkey wrench into your promo, but, doesn't most security software provide automatic backup? I know that PAF is continually prompting me to backup my files. If one prefers an outside source, it isn't that expensive or that difficult to periodically backup your software and data regularly to a RW/DVD. Then again there are flash drives that can hold pretty much any database you give them. Barring all those other options, there are also rescue programs, which search out and retrieve data. I've experienced computer crashes like anyone else who's been at this for a while, but I've always been able to retrieve my data. :-) ~ On Apr 21, 12:36 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I received a sad message this morning. Someone's genealogy is gone, due to computer problems :( One solution to store that back up file from your genealogy program: Dropbox. For those who are home: Thursday, April 21, 2011 (it's free). And if you are not home, you can view it online for free for the next 10 days. *Dropbox for Genealogists.* Are you familiar with Dropbox - a program that provides 2 gigabytes of online storage for free? Learn how to sign up for Dropbox, install the program and get started ensuring the safety and security of your genealogy research data. Seems too good to be true, right? Two gigabytes of online storage for free? And storage that can synchronize files across your computer, your laptop and even your mobile device? It is true, and you can learn how to leverage the power of Dropbox - a free online program to back up your genealogy data and even share files with friends and family. 2:00 PM Eastern (U.S.) 1:00 PM Central 12:00 PM Mountain 11:00 AM Pacific 6:00 PM GMT For those who can attend live, register here:http://goo.gl/xAZA0 -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Dan, It won't do me any good for my automatic backup (which goes to my hard drive) if that fails. It won't do me any good either if I back up to a CD/DVD or a flash/thumb/USB drive if there's an earthquake here in CA or the neighbor above me has a flood and everything is damaged down here. Or what about the person whose computer is a laptop? The laptop is in the car and the car is stolen. And they haven't bothered to back up in awhile or they backed up on their hard drive. I think you have been lucky. Sit on my side for awhile and read the messages that come to me personally. The person who wrote me the other day had the computer in the shop. I'm sure a great sum of money was paid, but the genealogy could not be retrieved. I need another place for my genealogy back up files. Dropbox (DB) has 2 GB for free (and there's some referral program to get you a little more as Yvonne has mentioned). I think I still need another place to backup my whole computer too (besides the external hard drive - which can fail, be lost in an earthquake, or be damaged in a flood). For my security software, I have Zone Alarm, AVG, Malwarebytes, Spybot, and Windows Defender. None of them back up my system. None of them fully protect me either. As for the outside source, some are $5, 6, 7 a month. So that's maybe $84 a year. I'll round that to $100. The amount of money that I have put into my genealogy is worth that $100 to me. And many do provide automatic back ups where you can set it and forget it. This is just another source for people to use. This is not a promotion, just another tool. I have no affiliation with DB or anything else. Like I said, it's sad for me to see these messages in my email about lost genealogy due to computer problems. Do what works best for you. If backing up to your hard drive is all you need and you have a great computer tech and it works for you, then that's great. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Repost for Kathy Cardoza: Well, Sam, anything is possible I guess. I'm not sure how those facilities get hacked but encryption is always better to have than not. Remember that first they have to get past the encryption. Then they would need to have a program to open your file. Personally,I don't put certain facts such as Social Security numbers in my database. Also, I would venture to guess that government and bank sites are a much more appealing target than your genealogy files are. :) I am careful and try to always be safe. In this world, you have to. But cloud computing is about as safe as it can possibly be. If you worried excessively about every little possibility, you would never do online banking, buy anything with credit or debit online, or give your credit card to a waiter at a restaurant. Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Another repost for Kathy Cardoza: Maria No, DB won't let you access Legacy from your iPhone. Your legacy file may be stored in there but you still have to have an app on your iPhone that will open a Legacy file. What you CAN open from your DB on your iPhone are things like documents, census images, etc. There are apps that will take a gedcom from any genealogy program such as Legacy and let you display your data on the iPhone. Kathy Sent from my iPad -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Yeah, you're right about all that. Guess it's just this whole identity theft thing that has be a bit concerned. Seems if one was so inclined, genealogy files would be the way to go. I guess I've just been more willing to put myself at risk, i.e. online banking, credit card to waiter, etc., than I have with other people's information. Do you know if with DB you can privatize living individuals before it goes to the cloud and yet keep the information available on your computer? Hmm, that doesn't sound possible given what DB is. Oh well, thanks for the information, Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:49 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 Repost for Kathy Cardoza: Well, Sam, anything is possible I guess. I'm not sure how those facilities get hacked but encryption is always better to have than not. Remember that first they have to get past the encryption. Then they would need to have a program to open your file. Personally,I don't put certain facts such as Social Security numbers in my database. Also, I would venture to guess that government and bank sites are a much more appealing target than your genealogy files are. :) I am careful and try to always be safe. In this world, you have to. But cloud computing is about as safe as it can possibly be. If you worried excessively about every little possibility, you would never do online banking, buy anything with credit or debit online, or give your credit card to a waiter at a restaurant. Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Sam, Poke around in Dick Eastman's archives. He wrote about identity theft. www.eogn.com It's much, much easier for thieves to get it from your trash or other places. The only time I came close was when the kid at the hardware store stole my credit card number. I bought a bunch of stuff, including the little night light type bulbs. One was the wrong wattage. So I went to get the correct one and the kid said he could only do exchanges at another register. The difference was 7 cents! But he insisted. He didn't turn in the receipt to the store. He kept it (this was back in the day when your full credit card number printed out on receipts). The next day, my credit card company called me. I was in a restaurant in FL, a Home Depot in MI, and bought 2 plane tickets (complete with names) in CO. My credit card company stopped the card and I wasn't responsible for the charges. I went back to Lowes and reported the employee, but he had already quit by then. The manager was quite upset. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Hmm -- i was beginning to think i could take the iphone to FHC and work off that. thank you for enlightening me. Can u please tell me what those apps may be or what category I find them under? Maria Elena On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Another repost for Kathy Cardoza: Maria No, DB won't let you access Legacy from your iPhone. Your legacy file may be stored in there but you still have to have an app on your iPhone that will open a Legacy file. What you CAN open from your DB on your iPhone are things like documents, census images, etc. There are apps that will take a gedcom from any genealogy program such as Legacy and let you display your data on the iPhone. Kathy Sent from my iPad -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Repost for Kathy Cardoza: Sam The private information for others you are so concerned about is going to be mostly public information, anyway. Unless, of course, you are including people's Social Security numbers in your files,which I would always advise against. That info is more likely to be illegally gotten through other means than by services such as Dropbox. Remember, It is NOT seen by the public. The issue of privatizing an individuals information is handled by your genealogy program, if at all,and is not the job of Dropbox. That is not what DB is. It is for backing up your data, storing it in a safe, encrypted file, for you to access AND for syncing your data between two or more computers, if you choose to do that. If you are still not totally comfortable using services like Dropbox, just don't do it! Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Repost for Kathy Cardoza (who is not directly online today): Maria, You still can,but just not in the way you thought. In the AppStore,search for genealogy programs. There is a new one called Families that works with Legacy that should be exactly what you need. Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
Kathy; Please know that I have not been nor am I now trying to create a problem or disagree with anyone's use of DB. I'm just trying to get educated and no, I don't put social security numbers in my database unless that person has died. I do have living peoples full names, addresses, parents, siblings, children, etc. though. Cheri; Thank you, I will check on what Eastman has to say about identity theft. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 2:21 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 Repost for Kathy Cardoza: Sam The private information for others you are so concerned about is going to be mostly public information, anyway. Unless, of course, you are including people's Social Security numbers in your files,which I would always advise against. That info is more likely to be illegally gotten through other means than by services such as Dropbox. Remember, It is NOT seen by the public. The issue of privatizing an individuals information is handled by your genealogy program, if at all,and is not the job of Dropbox. That is not what DB is. It is for backing up your data, storing it in a safe, encrypted file, for you to access AND for syncing your data between two or more computers, if you choose to do that. If you are still not totally comfortable using services like Dropbox, just don't do it! Kathy -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
Maria, I haven't seen an answer to your question. I have an iPhone and use Ancestry to go. Can also use your Safari if you want to access your online tree. JoElayne From: Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, April 22, 2011 12:48:21 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 Hmm -- i was beginning to think i could take the iphone to FHC and work off that. thank you for enlightening me. Can u please tell me what those apps may be or what category I find them under? Maria Elena On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Another repost for Kathy Cardoza: Maria No, DB won't let you access Legacy from your iPhone. Your legacy file may be stored in there but you still have to have an app on your iPhone that will open a Legacy file. What you CAN open from your DB on your iPhone are things like documents, census images, etc. There are apps that will take a gedcom from any genealogy program such as Legacy and let you display your data on the iPhone. Kathy Sent from my iPad -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
OK, the Dropbox webinar is available free for 10 days (through May 1st). It's the 7th one down: http://goo.gl/KFBr2 Put your genealogy backup file in Dropbox. If anything happens, you can retrieve it from there. You can also access it from your other computer (if you use a laptop, for example). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
Cheri; I'm curious, do you feel there is any issue with putting live people information into Dropbox? The way everything is hacked nowadays, I hesitate to put the information on people who are still alive anywhere it might be accessed by the bad guys out there. Sam in Maz Heading back to CA on Sat. (sadly) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:59 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21 OK, the Dropbox webinar is available free for 10 days (through May 1st). It's the 7th one down: http://goo.gl/KFBr2 Put your genealogy backup file in Dropbox. If anything happens, you can retrieve it from there. You can also access it from your other computer (if you use a laptop, for example). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
I don't think so. I think I remember the web site said it's encrypted. I had Dropbox on my computer at one time, but my computer was having problems, so I removed it. I need another kind of back up, and since my computer problem is solved, I was going to try Dropbox again. Hope to watch the webinar tomorrow. I know Kathy Cardoza uses it. (Kathy's cue to chime in here). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Webinar: Dropbox for Genealogists (sort of like a back up) TODAY, Thursday, April 21
OK, Cheri . I'm chiming in. :) I have used Dropbox for quite a while now and I love it! It is safe to use as everything is encrypted. Dropbox can be used as a backup service or (as I use it) to keep both of my computers, my iPad, and my iPhone all in sync. I store ALL of my genealogy files in my DB. That includes digital files of census, church records, vital records, etc. and photos. Also, anything that I want to be available to me on my other computer, is saved in my DB. For instance, I have a program that stores all the serial numbers and other info for all my programs. That is stored in my DB so that I can access it from either computer. I also store all my genealogy program files in my DB. Dropbox syncs all the changes I make to my file so that when I want to work on it on my desktop computer, I am assured that I am working on the most current version of my data. Important things to know about Dropbox It is a wonderful tool but you need to understand how it works, so that you can use it correctly, without any problems, if you are using it on more than one computer or on multiple devices. You must understand that whatever you put in your DB, gets synced up to the cloud where it lives and is available to use as a backup. So, at the very least, your data is still very much on your own computer's hard drive as well as up in the cloud. If you are using DB to sync your data to a second computer, then the data is copied from the cloud back down to your second computer. So far so good. If you are using Dropbox to sync, the most important thing to know and remember is that you CANNOT have a file you store in the DB open on Computer A and then open that same file on Computer B at the same time. You will get conflicted copy errors. It isn't necessarily a catastrophe, but will necessitate you having to choose which file to keep from the two that you will now have in your DB. That COULD cause you major headaches. You just have to understand how DB works in this regard and always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS .. did I say always ?.close the file on one computer before you open it on the other. An example of this would be: I use Reunion for Mac for my genealogy. If I am adding info to my Reunion file on my laptop but know I want to go sit at my desktop computer to do further work, I quit Reunion on my laptop. I walk down to my office, wait a minute for the files to sync to my desktop computer, then open the Reunion file on my desktop Mac. Wala! I can continue working on the same file, right where I left off on the laptop. When I'm finished with working on Reunion on my desktop Mac, I quit Reunion and DB syncs the file. Oh, BTW, DB provides you with a menubar icon that quickly lets you see if files are synced and up to date, are currently syncing, or what has just finished syncing like the Reunion family file from my example. Because I store so much in DB, I upgraded my account to 50 GB sometime ago. I find it to be indispensable to me, both as a backup and a syncing utility. If you have an iPhone or iPad, Dropbox has a free app for those devices (and probably others, too). Those work great, too! I can view any genealogy document I own right on those other devices. BTW, I also have other backup systems in place to insure the safety of all my files so, for me, DB is more for syncing. It is a wonderful utility that is free for 2 GB of storage. I would wholeheartedly recommend it! I apologize for being so long winded but I hope this has been helpful to some folks. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html Climb my Family Tree: http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm ~~~ On Apr 21, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: I don't think so. I think I remember the web site said it's encrypted. I had Dropbox on my computer at one time, but my computer was having problems, so I removed it. I need another kind of back up, and since my computer problem is solved, I was going to try Dropbox again. Hope to watch the webinar tomorrow. I know Kathy Cardoza uses it. (Kathy's cue to chime in here). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
