[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread mances
Hi Herb,

They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
José.

José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record 
 of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa 
 de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were 
 married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza 
 who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any 
 additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which 
 is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for 
 any assistance. 
  

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread herb
Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  muller 
 And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or 
Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Herb,
 
 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
 José.
 
 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz 
 da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married 
 in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
 
 Manoel Cesar Furtado
 
 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
 
 
 Hi
 
 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
 the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
 Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 
 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
 Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
 information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
 standard language on most marriages of that time
 
 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
 de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with 
 the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
 tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride 
 and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
 
 
 Herb
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread Pam Santos
Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora
da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria
Cabral from Porto Formoso

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São
 José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record
 of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa
 de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were
 married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza
 who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any
 additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which
 is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for
 any assistance.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread Erica Botelho
From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria 
Nunes.

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam 
Santos
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

 

Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da 
Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral from 
Porto Formoso

 

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:

Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  muller 
 And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and Antonia or 
Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Herb,

 

They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São José.

 

José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and Ursula 
de Viveiros, from Bretanha.

Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz da 
Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married in 
Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 

Manoel Cesar Furtado

Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:

 

Hi

 

Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 8 
Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
standard language on most marriages of that time

 

It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel de 
Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with the 
letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the tougher 
ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride and groom, 
which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance. 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html

 

 

Herb

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread herb
I wonder why they didn't list  her last name if indeed it was Nunes. Most 
records I have seen from that time period listed the wife's last name 

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 On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Erica Botelho audiosource...@qwestoffice.net 
 wrote:
 
 From a different record, I have Joao Sousa Travassos’s wife’s name as Maria 
 Nunes.
  
 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Pam Santos
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:05 PM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage
  
 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora da 
 Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria Cabral 
 from Porto Formoso
  
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herbandj...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  
 muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues and 
 Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Herb,
  
 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
 José.
  
 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from Matriz 
 da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They married 
 in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
  
 Manoel Cesar Furtado
 
 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
  
 Hi
  
 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this record of 
 the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and Theresa de 
 Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they were married on 
 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de Souza who was from 
 Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out any additional 
 information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism which is fairly 
 standard language on most marriages of that time
  
 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another Manuel 
 de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to start with 
 the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is one of the 
 tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names of the bride 
 and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for any assistance.
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
  
  
 Herb
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread JR
Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact 
I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas, 
Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area) 
where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages. Furnas 
by all the evidence is a place where people went to find work. And I 
believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these families were 
involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last frontier. All the 
older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, Maia; same 
with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.

JR

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora 
 da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria 
 Cabral from Porto Formoso

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net javascript:
  wrote:

 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and 
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
 José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de 
 Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out 
 any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism 
 which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for 
 any assistance. 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread Pam Santos
8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa


On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a
 fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande,
 Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha
 (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five
 villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find
 work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these
 families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last
 frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito
 Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.

 JR

 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa
 Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and
 Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de
 São José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de
 Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out
 any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism
 which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance for
 any assistance.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread herb
I am connected through Jose de Sousa and Theresa Viveiros. Their daughter Joana 
married Manuel da Silva in Sao Jose on 11 July 1778. But Manuel was first 
married to Joana's sister Maria who passed away. I read this in RR book awhile 
back but can't remember exactly where. Anyway the Manuel da Silva and Joana de 
Sousa line leads directly to my great great grandmother Maria Julia Silva and 
great grandfather Francisco Mendonca. Their daughter Diana was my grandmas 
mother. Amazing!!!Herb

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa
 
 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a fact 
 I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, Furnas, 
 Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha (border area) 
 where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five villages. Furnas by 
 all the evidence is a place where people went to find work. And I believe I 
 read from somewhere in RR, that some of these families were involved in 
 opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last frontier. All the older Furnas 
 records are in the parish of Divino Espirito Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da 
 Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.
 
 JR
 
 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa Senhora 
 da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and Maria 
 Cabral from Porto Formoso
 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net wrote:
 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and  
 muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Herb,
 
 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de São 
 José.
 
 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, and 
 Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. 
 They married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.
 
 Manoel Cesar Furtado
 
 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:
 
 
 Hi
 
 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel 
 de Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make 
 out any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and 
 baptism which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time
 
 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This 
 is one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the 
 names of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in 
 advance for any assistance.
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread JR
All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It says 
Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza Benevides e de Urcela de Viveiros... 
de Capellas, where he was baptised, etc and com Thereza de Viveiros filha 
de Manoel d Souza Travassos e Thereza de Viveiros fraguesia de ES-Maia 
where she was baptised...

JR

On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:19:46 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa


 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a 
 fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande, 
 Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha 
 (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five 
 villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find 
 work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these 
 families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last 
 frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito 
 Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.

 JR

 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa 
 Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and 
 Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and 
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues 
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso? 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de 
 São José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas, 
 and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from 
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They 
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this 
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and 
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they 
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de 
 Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out 
 any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism 
 which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another 
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to 
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is 
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names 
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance 
 for 
 any assistance. 
  
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
 MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help with Maia marriage

2014-10-18 Thread Pam Santos
Thats not the record sorry. Its one of the other marriages. He is looking
for the wife of Joao de Sousa Travassos.,

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote:

 All the names are there. Blow it up some more and have a good look. It
 says Jose de Souza filho de Manoel de Souza Benevides e de Urcela de
 Viveiros... de Capellas, where he was baptised, etc and com Thereza de
 Viveiros filha de Manoel d Souza Travassos e Thereza de Viveiros fraguesia
 de ES-Maia where she was baptised...

 JR

 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:19:46 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 8 Sep 1749 in Maia marriage for Jose de Sousa and Theresa


 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:13 PM, JR jmr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pam, which record does not list the name of Maria Nunes? As a matter a
 fact I think these people lived in three or four places: Ribeira Grande,
 Furnas, Achadinha, Ponta Garca, and if you count, Mosteiros/Bretanha
 (border area) where Joao de sousa Travassos was baptised, that is five
 villages. Furnas by all the evidence is a place where people went to find
 work. And I believe I read from somewhere in RR, that some of these
 families were involved in opening up Furnas, as it was kind of the last
 frontier. All the older Furnas records are in the parish of Divino Espirito
 Santo, Maia; same with Lomba da Maia, Burguete, Gorreana, etc.

 JR

 On Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:04:37 PM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 Joao de Sousa Travassos and Maria (nothing else listed) from Nossa
 Senhora da Estrella Ribeira Grande,  her parents Francisco Rodrigues and
 Maria Cabral from Porto Formoso

 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:54 AM, herb herba...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thanks Manoel and was Manuel Sousa the son of Joao Sousa Travassos and
  muller  And Theresa de Viveiros the daughter of Francisco Rodrigues
 and Antonia or Roza  Cabral of Porto Formoso?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 18, 2014, at 1:34 PM, mances man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Herb,

 They are my ancestors too. I'm descended from their daughter Maria de
 São José.

 José de Sousa is the son of Manuel de Sousa Benevides, from Capelas,
 and Ursula de Viveiros, from Bretanha.
 Teresa de Viveiros is the daughter of Manuel de Sousa Travassos, from
 Matriz da Ribeira Grande, and Teresa de Viveiros, from Porto Formoso. They
 married in Maia on 12 apr 1722 - CCA #102.

 Manoel Cesar Furtado

 Em sábado, 18 de outubro de 2014 13h43min47s UTC-3, Herb escreveu:


 Hi

 Would appreciate if someone could put a second set of eyes on this
 record of the marriage of my 8th great grandparents Jose de Souza and
 Theresa de Viveiros. Right side of page.  As best as I an make out they
 were married on 8 Sep 1749 in Maia and the groom was the son of Manuel de
 Souza who was from Capellas. After that it becomes difficult to make out
 any additional information. I see some references to quaresma and baptism
 which is fairly standard language on most marriages of that time

 It also appears that Theresa de Viveiros was the daughter of another
 Manuel de Souza ? but I cant make it out.  The last name appears to
 start with the letter F.  Could it be Manuel de Souza Francisco?  This is
 one of the tougher ones for me but I am grateful that I can see the names
 of the bride and groom, which is a wonderful thing.  Thanks in advance 
 for
 any assistance.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-
 MAIA-C-1742-1761/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1742-1761_item1/P43.html


 Herb

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