Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Cesar Pimentel]

Lee,

The correct name in Portuguese is Agostinho , like St. Augustine.


Cesar Pimentel

cesarpimentel@hotmail.com

Looking at Barbara da Ponte's death record in Maia, married to Manoel da Costa 
, who died in 1698, approximately .



De: azores@googlegroups.com <azores@googlegroups.com> em nome de Lee 
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Enviado: segunda-feira, 20 de junho de 2016 19:14
Para: Azores Genealogy
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

Sandra,

My cousin is a descendant of Sebatiso Gonsalves Borges and Roza Maria through 
their daughter Maria a Nazarette who married Agistingho Coelho de Mello in 1818 
in Alyares.

When I went to search for their marriage all I can find is the one for this 
couple which is confusing (his name being sodifferent).  Is this the same man?  
I don't know, but do note thee is a Maria da Nazarette I his family (his mother 
I think) so it may be them.  Still working to figure this one out.

Sine zbill Seidler told me about the index this morning I've been finding all 
kinds of family for my cousin.

The search continues.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Lee]

Sandra,

My cousin is a descendant of Sebatiso Gonsalves Borges and Roza Maria through 
their daughter Maria a Nazarette who married Agistingho Coelho de Mello in 1818 
in Alyares.

When I went to search for their marriage all I can find is the one for this 
couple which is confusing (his name being sodifferent).  Is this the same man?  
I don't know, but do note thee is a Maria da Nazarette I his family (his mother 
I think) so it may be them.  Still working to figure this one out.

Sine zbill Seidler told me about the index this morning I've been finding all 
kinds of family for my cousin.

The search continues.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Sandra Valine Dauer]

Lee Item #2
I also have Manuel Borges de Barcellos married to Maria de Nazareth from
Altares, Terciera in my Tree.  I believe they married 13 Jan 1744.  My
connection is  their  daughter,  Maria Joaquina de Nazareth married 09 May
1785, Altares, to Joao Alveres Ferreira Berbereya from Biscoitos, Terceira.
Is there a connection? I have not located any birth/baptism records for any
of them.
Sandra Valine Dauer
California

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Lee  wrote:

> I have listed below three marriage records from Altares, Terceira
> marriage records for which I would like to request a little help with:
>
> 1.  Antonio Coelho de Mello and Maria de Conceicao 1787 (cannot read
> day/month)
>  Antonio filho de Coelho de Mello and Beatriz dos Anjos?
>  Maria filha de Manoel ?? chio? and ?? Antonia
>
> Top right
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P4.html
>
> 2.  Sebastiao glz de Barcellos? and Roza Maria - January 27, 1791 (top
> right)
>  Sebatiao filho de Manoel Brges de Barcellos and Maria de Nazarette
>  Roza Maria filha de Joao Glz and Luiza   (what is her full name??)
>
> Am I reading Sebastiao's surname correct as de Barcellos??
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P13.html
>
> 3.  Narciso Ferreira Lourcenco and Anna Josepha (Left bottom)  October 24,
> 1813
>  Narciso filho de Antonio Ferreira Lourcenco and Luiza Antonia
>  Anna Josephfa filha de pai incognito and Roza Marria
>
> Just need verification that I am reading this one correctly?
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P56.html
>
> I haven't been researching for a while and my diabetic eyes are adjusting
> to these records again.
>
> As usual, thanks for any help.
>
> Lee Estep,
> Oak Hill WV
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Lee]

Thanks, Bill.

One of my cousins, cousins (if that make sense) is Azorean on both sides - 
his father's side are from Terceira (Mellos and Homem')  So, an entirely 
new island to research.  And thanks fro the info on the index, was not 
aware of it at all.

Lee

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>
> Lee,
>
> One more thing, Terceira has a marriage index that I used to double check 
> the names I thought I read before my last post (because I'm not that good 
> at reading these records).  I recall you researching Sao Miguel, Faial, and 
> Graciosa before but not Terceira so I wasn't sure you were aware of it.
>
> You can find it here: 
> http://www.bparah.azores.gov.pt/pdfs/bparah-indices-casamentos_da_Ilha_Terceira.pdf
>
> Bill Seidler
>
>
> On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 7:22:25 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 1: My guess for the month ifs February (Fevr.o) but not with certainty, 
>> otherwise agree that the day is 5 and the year is 1787.  The father of the 
>> bride looks to me like Estevao Nunes, otherwise I agree with Cheri.
>>
>> 2.  Agree with previous posts, but I see parents of bride as Joao 
>> Goncalves Borges and Luiza de Conceicao
>>
>> 3.  I think you have this correctly except the date, which I agree with 
>> Cheri as 24 Nov 1805.  Did you notice that it gives the bride's maternal 
>> grandparents also.  It looks like Thome Estevez Franco and Josefa Maria.
>>
>> Bill Seidler
>>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[bsei2816]

Lee,

One more thing, Terceira has a marriage index that I used to double check 
the names I thought I read before my last post (because I'm not that good 
at reading these records).  I recall you researching Sao Miguel, Faial, and 
Graciosa before but not Terceira so I wasn't sure you were aware of it.

You can find it here: 
http://www.bparah.azores.gov.pt/pdfs/bparah-indices-casamentos_da_Ilha_Terceira.pdf

Bill Seidler


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>
> 1: My guess for the month ifs February (Fevr.o) but not with certainty, 
> otherwise agree that the day is 5 and the year is 1787.  The father of the 
> bride looks to me like Estevao Nunes, otherwise I agree with Cheri.
>
> 2.  Agree with previous posts, but I see parents of bride as Joao 
> Goncalves Borges and Luiza de Conceicao
>
> 3.  I think you have this correctly except the date, which I agree with 
> Cheri as 24 Nov 1805.  Did you notice that it gives the bride's maternal 
> grandparents also.  It looks like Thome Estevez Franco and Josefa Maria.
>
> Bill Seidler
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[bsei2816]

1: My guess for the month ifs February (Fevr.o) but not with certainty, 
otherwise agree that the day is 5 and the year is 1787.  The father of the 
bride looks to me like Estevao Nunes, otherwise I agree with Cheri.

2.  Agree with previous posts, but I see parents of bride as Joao Goncalves 
Borges and Luiza de Conceicao

3.  I think you have this correctly except the date, which I agree with 
Cheri as 24 Nov 1805.  Did you notice that it gives the bride's maternal 
grandparents also.  It looks like Thome Estevez Franco and Josefa Maria.

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Cheri Mello]

I lost my reading glasses and the store is out of my strength!

1) 5th day. No idea how he is abbreviating that month.
Groom son of Antonio Coelho de Mello & Beatriz dos Anjos.
Bride daughter of Estevao Muniz??? & Josepha Antonia

2) Yes, Sebastiao Goncalves de Barcellos

3) I think it's 24 Nov 1805.
Groom: Narciso Ferreira Lourenço, son of Antonio Ferreira Lourenço & Luisa
Antonia
Bride: Anna Josepha daughter of pai incognito and Rosa Maria.
Oooh, that one agrees!
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira Marriage records

[Lee]

I have listed below three marriage records from Altares, Terceira marriage 
records for which I would like to request a little help with:

1.  Antonio Coelho de Mello and Maria de Conceicao 1787 (cannot read 
day/month)
 Antonio filho de Coelho de Mello and Beatriz dos Anjos?
 Maria filha de Manoel ?? chio? and ?? Antonia

Top right

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P4.html

2.  Sebastiao glz de Barcellos? and Roza Maria - January 27, 1791 (top 
right)
 Sebatiao filho de Manoel Brges de Barcellos and Maria de Nazarette
 Roza Maria filha de Joao Glz and Luiza   (what is her full name??)

Am I reading Sebastiao's surname correct as de Barcellos??

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P13.html

3.  Narciso Ferreira Lourcenco and Anna Josepha (Left bottom)  October 24, 
1813
 Narciso filho de Antonio Ferreira Lourcenco and Luiza Antonia
 Anna Josephfa filha de pai incognito and Roza Marria 

Just need verification that I am reading this one correctly?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P56.html

I haven't been researching for a while and my diabetic eyes are adjusting 
to these records again.

As usual, thanks for any help.

Lee Estep, 
Oak Hill WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Robin Lebo]

 A recommendation;
Joao just finished obtaining records for me as well. The first steps in 
breaking through my current brick wall. He found exactly what I requested and 
was extremely quick getting my records. I thought it would be slower, like 
those of us in Oklahoma. 
I got a packet today, but have yet to open my mail. ( Not home long enough. My 
son also wrote from boot camp. It's a great day for mail.)
I tried for months to do it myself and got very lost, who went where with what 
name. 
I highly recommend Joao Ventura. 

Robin Lebo

On Jun 4, 2012, at 22:24, Steve Wright cswrigh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I totally agree with Celeste.  He has found lots for us.
  
 Colleen
 
 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote:
 In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information 
 and, in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information. 
  Celeste, Hayward, CA
  
 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
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 Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:10 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?
 
 How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the Azores 
 (specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over alone after 
 being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would involve lots of 
 paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it is just a story 
 because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis Island database and 
 in passenger line records. 
 Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to 
 research? Has anyone had any success with this?
 
 Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
 Timya
 St Paul, MN
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Timya Owen]

That is wonderful!  I hope to find out some more information -- find the little 
kernels of truth buried in the family stories. Maybe even find out if I have 
any living relatives still there. My dad was there back in the late 50's or 
early 60's and there were at least two of my grandmother's siblings still 
living. Fingers crossed. Thank you everyone.
Timya
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Mendes Ferreira wrote:

 E:
 I have found their ship's manifest and all the information you asked about. 
 Here is what I know about them:
 My Grandfather:  
 Manuel Mendes Ferreira, Jr.
 b 1891 (San Sebastian, Terceira)
 - his parents: Constancia (Dos Angos Toste) and Manuel Mendes Ferreira, Sr
 d 18 Apr 1923 (Tuberculosis, Eureka, Humboldt County, California)
 
 My Grandmother:
 Maria Candida
 b 17 Dec 1900 (although several gov docs have 18 Dec 1900 or 1901 -- same 
 person, just variations)
 - her parents: Frances Candida and Joaquin Sousa (or Souza depending on the 
 person transcribing the doc)
 d 5 Jan 1978 (as Maria C. Nunes having remarried Joaquin Nunes) (Ferndale, 
 Humboldt County, California)
 
 Arrived Ellis Island, NY, together aboard the Fabre Line SS Roma on 13 
 October 1920.
 
 I have some sibling information as well if that would help.
 Let me know and thank you so much for your help.
 
 On Monday, June 4, 2012 2:51:46 PM UTC-5, belle...@gmail.com wrote:
 Timya, 
 
 Did you find their ship's manifest yet? If yes, what are their names and name 
 of ship and year arrived and where. If not, give us the parent's names, 
 children, approximate when born, when came to US, and where they lived in US 
 and I/we will try to help you. When we can establish their US records we can 
 tell you how to do the rest. 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Mendes Ferreira]

How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the 
Azores (specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over 
alone after being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would 
involve lots of paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it 
is just a story because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis 
Island database and in passenger line records. 
Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to 
research? Has anyone had any success with this?

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
Timya
St Paul, MN

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[bellemarco]

Timya,

Did you find their ship's manifest yet? If yes, what are their names and  
name of ship and year arrived and where. If not, give us the parent's  
names, children, approximate when born, when came to US, and where they  
lived in US and I/we will try to help you. When we can establish their US  
records we can tell you how to do the rest.


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[celeste perry]

In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information and, 
in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information. 
 Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
 


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?
  

How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the Azores 
(specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over alone after 
being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would involve lots of 
paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it is just a story 
because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis Island database and in 
passenger line records. 
Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to research? 
Has anyone had any success with this?

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
Timya
St Paul, MN

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Sam Koester]

I certainly second that opinion!  Sam in CA

 

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In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information
and, in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information. 

 Celeste, Hayward, CA

 

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the Azores
(specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over alone
after being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would involve
lots of paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it is just
a story because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis Island
database and in passenger line records. 

Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to
research? Has anyone had any success with this?

 

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.

Timya

St Paul, MN

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Pam Santos]

If you know the church you can go to the site below and look thru the
records yourself.

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Karen Huffman khuffl...@charter.net wrote:

 Joao is the go to guy! He has found so many records for me. He has broken
 down my brick wall!!  Just sayin!

 Karen :)


 On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information
 and, in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information.
  Celeste, Hayward, CA

 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
*From:* Mendes Ferreira tewin...@comcast.net
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 12:10 PM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

 How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the
 Azores (specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over
 alone after being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would
 involve lots of paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it
 is just a story because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis
 Island database and in passenger line records.
 Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to
 research? Has anyone had any success with this?

 Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
 Timya
 St Paul, MN

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 Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa
 in Terceira Acores.

 Searching for Anderson and Swanson in Sweden and Schaeffer and Schommer in
 Germany.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

[Steve Wright]

I totally agree with Celeste.  He has found lots for us.

Colleen

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In my optinion, Joao Ventura is the go to person for research information
 and, in Terceira, where he lives, he has a wealth of information.
  Celeste, Hayward, CA

 Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
*From:* Mendes Ferreira tewin...@comcast.net
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 12:10 PM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Terceira marriage records... how to find?

 How does someone in the U.S. go about finding marriage records in the
 Azores (specifically Terceira)?  The story was always that Avo came over
 alone after being married by proxy (1920-1921). I would think that would
 involve lots of paperwork but not necessarily church records.  I suspect it
 is just a story because I've found conflicting information in the Ellis
 Island database and in passenger line records.
 Is this the kind of thing you'd need to hire someone (on Terceira) to
 research? Has anyone had any success with this?

 Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions.
 Timya
 St Paul, MN

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