Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thank you so much Margaret! Learn something new every day!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Jermey, those are certifications.
>
> examplified:
>
> 1.a cer.dam fora
> 2.a via
>
> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract"
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that
>> every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in
>> the margin.
>>
>> Examples include:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>>
>> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>>
>> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the
>> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> ,
>>
>> Jeremy
>> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

[linda]

Thanks so much.  Of course!-- I should have realized that there were too 
few baptismal notes for them to be relevant to marriages.  That makes much 
more sense.

I especially appreciate your explanation of the requirements for Army 
enlistment and travel in the period.  It's an area of which I'm vaguely 
aware but largely ignorant.

much appreciated!

Linda

  
On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:23:16 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Hi Linda,
>
> Certifications on baptism at that time served, according to my own 
> experience, the same purpose as the obits ones did.  You will note that 
> only a few of the birth records were  certified.  Were they to be used as 
> proof of marriage, then most if not all records should have at least one 
> certification.
>
> Yes, it could be inheritance or other.  A good example of other, would be 
> "Army" enlistment.  Some times proof of death had to be provided on " 
> government issued drafts" because parents gave children the same first 
> names they used to draft even the "dead" ones.  Inter island/mainland 
> travel movement also required identification in those days
>
>   
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:05 PM, linda  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.  
>>
>> I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the 
>> certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and 
>> those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do 
>> you know if I'm safe in thinking so?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Jermey, those are certifications.
>>>
>>> examplified:
>>>
>>> 1.a cer.dam fora
>>> 2.a via
>>>
>>> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract" 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found 
 that every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little 
 Va/Via in the margin.

 Examples include:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html

 The same notation can be found in the villages death books:

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html

 This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what 
 the priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be 
 greatly appreciated.

 ,

 Jeremy
 Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Linda,

Certifications on baptism at that time served, according to my own
experience, the same purpose as the obits ones did.  You will note that
only a few of the birth records were  certified.  Were they to be used as
proof of marriage, then most if not all records should have at least one
certification.

Yes, it could be inheritance or other.  A good example of other, would be
"Army" enlistment.  Some times proof of death had to be provided on "
government issued drafts" because parents gave children the same first
names they used to draft even the "dead" ones.  Inter island/mainland
travel movement also required identification in those days





On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:05 PM, linda  wrote:

> Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.
>
> I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the
> certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and
> those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do
> you know if I'm safe in thinking so?
>
> thanks!
>
> Linda
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Jermey, those are certifications.
>>
>> examplified:
>>
>> 1.a cer.dam fora
>> 2.a via
>>
>> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found
>>> that every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little
>>> Va/Via in the margin.
>>>
>>> Examples include:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>>>
>>> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>>>
>>> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the
>>> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> ,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

[linda]

Thanks Margaret-- that is fascinating.  

I have a follow up question on Jeremy's original question.  I assume the 
certificates on the baptisms would have been issued in order to marry, and 
those on the obits would have been issued for purposes of inheritance.  Do 
you know if I'm safe in thinking so?

thanks!

Linda

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 9:42:47 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Jermey, those are certifications.
>
> examplified:
>
> 1.a cer.dam fora
> 2.a via
>
> via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract" 
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that 
>> every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in 
>> the margin.
>>
>> Examples include:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>>
>> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>>
>> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the 
>> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> ,
>>
>> Jeremy
>> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Fascinating! Thank you so much!
,
Jeremy


  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

[Margaret Vicente]

Jermey, those are certifications.

examplified:

1.a cer.dam fora
2.a via

via is old writing for fora wich means "issued / extract"



On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that
> every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in
> the margin.
>
> Examples include:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html
>
> The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html
>
> This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the
> priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> ,
>
> Jeremy
> Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello,

I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that every 
few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in the 
margin.  

Examples include:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html

The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html

This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the priest 
was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly appreciated.

,

Jeremy
Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello!

I am sending the below again in hopes that someone may see it and be able to 
figure something out! 

Thanks!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Va / Via in margin of Calheta Records

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello,

I am looking through some records in Calheta on Sao Jorge, and found that 
every few entries in the baptismal book the priest adds a little Va/Via in 
the margin.  

Examples include:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P78.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812/SJR-CH-CALHETA-B-1803-1812_item1/P77.html

The same notation can be found in the villages death books:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818/SJR-CH-CALHETA-O-1782-1818_item1/P175.html

This is repeated every handful of entries. I would love to know what the 
priest was denoting, or counting! Any help in the matter would be greatly 
appreciated.

,

Jeremy
Researching: Sao Jorge, Pico, Flores, Faial, Graciosa, Teirceira

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