Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread Carlota Torres 

Penny Torres, aprn-bc




> On Apr 7, 2018, at 6:36 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Sam. But I am just helping out. Most of my ancestors are Ponta 
> Garca and the surrounding areas on Sao Miguel.
> 
> JR
> 
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 5:55:59 PM UTC-4, Sam Koester wrote:
> JR, My 2nd great grandfather was Jose Francisco Catarino who was married to  
> Francisca Luiza Marianna and who was the brother of Manoel Francisco Catarino 
> married to Teresa Felicia de Jesus.  It would seem you and I are related. 😊 
> 
>  
> I want to thank you for your help with the translation  help on the marriage 
> of 1842 in Pedro Miguel.  That marriage is also in this Catarino line.  We 
> should compare notes.
> 
>  
> Hoping to hear from you,
> 
>  
> Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
> 
>  
> From: JR 
> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 2:16 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
> Marriage
> 
>  
> Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
> don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.
> 
>  
> JR
> 
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
> 
> Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last 
> names appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match 
> the names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates 
> appear to be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
> 
>  
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color
>  
> <http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color>=
> 
>  
> The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have 
> to check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death 
> (some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows 
> Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on 
> the next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see 
> something like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The 
> page yours is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same 
> to me.
> 
>  
> Anyway, hope this helps a little.
> 
>  
> Diane George
> 
>  
> From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy > 
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
> To: genealogy >
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
> Marriage
> 
>  
> Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and 
> the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
> 
>  
> Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia 
> with Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
> 
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
>  
> <http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Oh darn, I guess I lost track of who was interested in this line.  Sure hope 
they see this message and contact me as I have found the birth and the marriage 
of Antonio.

Thanks for all your help!

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)

From: JR
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 4:36 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
Marriage

Thank you Sam. But I am just helping out. Most of my ancestors are Ponta Garca 
and the surrounding areas on Sao Miguel.

JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 5:55:59 PM UTC-4, Sam Koester wrote:
JR, My 2nd great grandfather was Jose Francisco Catarino who was married to  
Francisca Luiza Marianna and who was the brother of Manoel Francisco Catarino 
married to Teresa Felicia de Jesus.  It would seem you and I are related. 😊  
 
I want to thank you for your help with the translation  help on the marriage of 
1842 in Pedro Miguel.  That marriage is also in this Catarino line.  We should 
compare notes.
 
Hoping to hear from you,
 
Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
 
From: JR
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
Marriage
 
Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.
 
JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last names 
appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match the 
names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates appear to 
be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color=
 
The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have to 
check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death 
(some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows 
Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on the 
next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see something 
like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The page yours 
is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same to me. 
 
Anyway, hope this helps a little.
 
Diane George
 
From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage
 
Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and 
the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
 
Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia with 
Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
 
Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread JR 
Thank you Sam. But I am just helping out. Most of my ancestors are Ponta 
Garca and the surrounding areas on Sao Miguel.

JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 5:55:59 PM UTC-4, Sam Koester wrote:
>
> JR, My 2nd great grandfather was Jose Francisco Catarino who was married 
> to  Francisca Luiza Marianna and who was the brother of Manoel Francisco 
> Catarino married to Teresa Felicia de Jesus.  It would seem you and I are 
> related. 😊  
>
>  
>
> I want to thank you for your help with the translation  help on the 
> marriage of 1842 in Pedro Miguel.  That marriage is also in this Catarino 
> line.  We should compare notes.
>
>  
>
> Hoping to hear from you,
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
>
>  
>
> *From: *JR 
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 7, 2018 2:16 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 
> 1842 Marriage
>
>  
>
> Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
> don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.
>
>  
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
>
> Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last 
> names appear to be different from your record, but the first two names 
> match the names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the 
> dates appear to be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
>
>  
>
>
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color
> =
>
>  
>
> The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may 
> have to check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for 
> death (some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What 
> follows Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her 
> name on the next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I 
> see something like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct 
> info. The page yours is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t 
> look the same to me. 
>
>  
>
> Anyway, hope this helps a little.
>
>  
>
> Diane George
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
> *To:* genealogy 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
> Marriage
>
>  
>
> Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents 
> and the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
>
>  
>
> Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia 
> with Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
>
>  
>
> Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
JR, My 2nd great grandfather was Jose Francisco Catarino who was married to  
Francisca Luiza Marianna and who was the brother of Manoel Francisco Catarino 
married to Teresa Felicia de Jesus.  It would seem you and I are related. 😊  

I want to thank you for your help with the translation  help on the marriage of 
1842 in Pedro Miguel.  That marriage is also in this Catarino line.  We should 
compare notes.

Hoping to hear from you,

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)

From: JR
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
Marriage

Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.

JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last names 
appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match the 
names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates appear to 
be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color=
 
The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have to 
check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death 
(some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows 
Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on the 
next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see something 
like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The page yours 
is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same to me. 
 
Anyway, hope this helps a little.
 
Diane George
 
From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage
 
Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and 
the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
 
Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia with 
Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
 
Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
 
 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
JR, My 2nd great grandfather was Jose Francisco Catarino who was married to  
Francisca Luiza Marianna and who was the brother of Manoel Francisco Catarino 
married to Teresa Felicia de Jesus.  It would seem you and I are related. 😊  

I want to thank you for your help with the translation  help on the marriage of 
1842 in Pedro Miguel.  That marriage is also in this Catarino line.  We should 
compare notes.

Hoping to hear from you,

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)

From: JR
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
Marriage

Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.

JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last names 
appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match the 
names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates appear to 
be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
 
http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color=
 
The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have to 
check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death 
(some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows 
Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on the 
next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see something 
like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The page yours 
is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same to me. 
 
Anyway, hope this helps a little.
 
Diane George
 
From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage
 
Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and 
the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
 
Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia with 
Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
 
Sam (Mazatlan, MX)
 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread JR 
Yes of course, the year is 1842.  Sorry. It does look like Thoedora, but I 
don't see a rise in the letter where the d should be.

JR

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 3:39:57 PM UTC-4, DiG wrote:
>
> Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last 
> names appear to be different from your record, but the first two names 
> match the names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the 
> dates appear to be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):
>
>  
>
>
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color
> =
>
>  
>
> The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may 
> have to check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for 
> death (some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What 
> follows Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her 
> name on the next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I 
> see something like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct 
> info. The page yours is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t 
> look the same to me. 
>
>  
>
> Anyway, hope this helps a little.
>
>  
>
> Diane George
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  > 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
> *To:* genealogy >
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 
> Marriage
>
>  
>
> Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents 
> and the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.
>
>  
>
> Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia 
> with Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html
>
>  
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

2018-04-07 Thread Diane George 
Don’t know if this will help, but CITEM has the following (the very last names 
appear to be different from your record, but the first two names match the 
names in the CCA record for father, mother and Antonio and the dates appear to 
be correct for the marriage-- 27th September 1842):

http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=pedromiguel&lang=en&m=D&p=manuel+francisco&n=catarino&v=3&t=L&bd=0&color=

The information for the bride also appears to match the record. You may have to 
check other records for the names, but the CITEM data has dates for death 
(some) and for the children so you may find the “Catarino” name. What follows 
Manuel Francisco in your record is “sua mulher”, his wife, with her name on the 
next line. The CITEM record says “Teresa” for the mother, but I see something 
like “Theodora.” Other CCA records may reveal the correct info. The page yours 
is on has a “Thereza” near the bottom and it doesn’t look the same to me.

Anyway, hope this helps a little.

Diane George

From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 10:30 AM
To: genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help: Pedro Miguel, Faial 1842 Marriage

Anyone who would like to try to help with the name of the groom’s parents and 
the date of the marriage?  It would be much appreciated.

Top left one:  Antonio Francisco son of Manoel Francisco ? and ? Fellicia with 
Maria Jacinta daughter of Domingos Luis and Francisca Jacinta

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1780-1855_item1/P184.html

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