Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ
Joanne, see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to compare notes. Thanks, Maria Moore - Original Message - From: JR jmro...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz blockquote child of MANOEL LUIZ or in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, pescador MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ /blockquote blockquote Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier /blockquote -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ
it might be Luiz da Costa (Cachinha) On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - MANUEL LUIZ child of MANOEL LUIZ MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA C__ - which would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria ___ Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ
Yes, I see the s's are more complete. Since some of you know it to be Cachinha, that's what it is. The other Caixinha is another spelling variant. But you better compare notes with Maria as she seems to know all about this line. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 6:23:53 PM UTC-4, danan...@comcast.net wrote: Joanne, see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to compare notes. Thanks, Maria Moore -- *From: *JR jmr...@gmail.com javascript: *To: *azores azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent: *Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz child of MANOEL LUIZ or *in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, pescador* MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA *Caichinha_in another record spelled as Caixinha_*meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _*Ricarda*_ Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ
WOW! Thanks, JR and Maria for all the info. Unfortunately, nothing came across in red on my end of your email, Maria, so I’m not sure what you wanted me to know. I would love to have more information on this line but especially if the surname changes as we go further back in time so let’s compare notes. I’d be happy to supply you with descendants of which I am one. Thanks again! Joanne Grota Mercier On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, JR jmro...@gmail.com wrote: Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - MANUEL LUIZ child of MANOEL LUIZ MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA C__ - which would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria ___ Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ
Joanne, Hopefully you see it now. here it is again: MANOEL LUIZ in other records (1876) he is named Manuel Luiz da Costa, pescador MARIA DO CARMO LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ I will be happy to to have a look at your file. Is your Grota line also from Lagoa? Maria Moore - Original Message - From: danandma...@comcast.net To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:13:37 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ Joanne, see my notes in red in your original message. I do have a few more children of Manuel Luiz da Costa Caixinha and Maria do Carmo. Let me know if you want to compare notes. Thanks, Maria Moore - Original Message - From: JR jmro...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 12:00:14 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lagoa (Rosario) Translation Research Help - LUIZ Manoel, filho de Manoel Luiz e de Maria do Carmo, neto (grandson) paterno de Luiz da Costa Sachinha e de Umbelina Thomazia de Jesus, materno de Manoel Martins e de Maria Ricarda naturaes desta Parochial igreja de NS do Rosario desta Villa de Lagoa; Born- Jan 29- 1859, bap- Feb 1- 1859 Padrinho- Manoel da Costa solteiro. Looking at the other records, the non-use of the word 'legitimo', does not appear to mean anything. It's just the format they use. Neto in this case is not part of the name, it means grandchild=grandson.Sachinha is undoubtedly a nickname that means hoe, as in the tool that turns the soil. JR On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1854-1859_item1/P283.html bottom half of page - Manuel Luiz blockquote child of MANOEL LUIZ or in other records 1876 he is named Manuek Luiz da Costa, pescador MARIA DO CARMO NETO? (It doesn’t say legitimate here so…is it? It appears to me that his paternal grandfather is LUIS DA COSTA Caichinha _in another record spelled as Caixinha_ meaning small box. This nickname is still currently used in Rosario. Twhich would mean that there is a family name change going on (or not, which is why I really need help!) and his grandmother appears to be UMBELINA THOMASIA DE JESUS Maternal grandparents appear as Manoel Martins and Maria _ Ricarda _ /blockquote blockquote Date appears to be 1 February 1859 and I can’t make out the godparents. This is my great-grandfather’s (My Dad’s mother’s grandfather) baptismal entry. Any help is greatly appreciated and if you happen to have this line in your tree I’d love to connect with you. Thanks in advance! Joanne Grota Mercier /blockquote -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
