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So sorry, I see that you translated it for me. That's what happens when you read your email first thing in the morning without paying attention to the whole email. Thank you for taking the time and brining valuable information to me and to help me solve the mystery of my Cabral family. - Original Message - Here is the url to google translate: http://translate.google.ca/ Just copy and paste any portuguese text into the left pane and google translate will provide you with a translation within a few seconds. I think the Senhor de Azurara is referring to the fact that this Cabral line were wealthy landowners of an area in Portugal called Azurara. So the translation would be "Lord of Azurara". Hence, 2nd lord of Azurara etc etc. (See below) The Cabral Family The Cabral family has always had a great influence and prestige in the municipality of Viseu by his patriotic feeling and strength in the face of national crises. This family refused to "kiss the hand of Leonor Teles and thus recognize her as Queen of Portugal and [...] miss the landlord's land Azurara; later, as a pledge of dedication that Alcaide-Mor Guard Álvaro Gil Cabral, stated the independence of Portugal [...] Master of Avis, was when Regedor and defender of the realm, and finally, a descendant of the same Álvaro Gil Cabral lost as a result of the noble gesture that had to with Philip D. II of Spain "1. Though investigations, developed by Dr. Alexandre Alves latest not confirm the idea of the last land taken by the Crown. During the time of the monarchy Mangualde was never forgotten, because it is the land of the family of Pedro Álvares Cabral, because beyond discoverer of Brazil was Alcaide-Mor Village Azurara Beira. So the first time where Cabral Family highlights is its power during the crisis of 1383-85, always supporting the Master of Avis. The big defender was Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor Guard, grandfather Pedro Álvares Cabral, who in turn received the lands of the county Azurara Beira, these being the lands and became lord of the Castle of Belmonte: "Master of Avis [...] donated to his vassal Alvaro Gil by letter last in Lisbon on March 27, 1384, to land Zurara, estate and interest, for him and his legitimate descendants, co todallas rents, taxes and forums her assy and the gisa that we auemos ... "2. These handouts were given to you before D. John I ascend, "but before ascending the throne as King John will reward many who supported him in his fight, having been one of them, Álvares Cabral Gil" 3, for the master of Avis rose thanks to popular support of members the nobility and bourgeoisie. Álvaro Gil witnessed the Cortes of Coimbra, when it was declared D. John I, King of Portugal. Little data exist Álvaro Gil Cabral, according to Alexandre Alves, "was the son of D. Gil, dean of the Guard, later bishop of the same city [...]. From his marriage with Maria (or Catherine) Aires de Loureiro, from Silgueiros, Alvaro Gil were the following children: Luís Álvares Cabral "4 and others. Luís Álvares Cabral said to be the successor of Zurara, mayor of Belmonte Castle, being selected to join the House of Prince Henrique. "Appointed by Infante captain of one of the organized armed galleys in Oporto in 1415 in view of Ceuta expedition is quoted with his son Fernando Alvares" 5. He married twice and had several children, highlighting the successor d'Fernão Álvares Cabral and Fernando Alvares Cabral. After this succeeded by his son Ferdinand Alvares Cabral, ascended socially "pagem, young gentleman, squire and knight of the order by Casa do Infante D. Henrique." though to Ceuta with his father was not part of the conquest, because he got sick and landed in Tarifa to recover, and when he moved to Ceuta good for a while defending the city against the Moors. She married D. Teresa lived in Viseu de Andrade and had three children, died in the first child, the second being his successor Jonathan Cabral. Great defender of the people of Azurara leading up to the king saw their problems increased their territories "donations Azurara, Butters and Quinta de Santo André [...] of Moimenta alongside Gouveia" and cease to be charged "in tomadias and maladias Zurara of land, which is reguengo the King "6 in order of King D. Duarte. Fernando Alvares Cabral died in 1437. Later amounted Fernão Cabral or Fernão Cabral - The old, was born around 1427 and died between 1492 and 1493. Dominated a large expanse of territory and married D. Isabel de Gouveia, and had many sons upwards of ten. With its prestige was "created of Henry and gentleman of the Houses and the Council of Kings Alfonso V and John II" 7. The Regedor Justice of Beira, Riba Coa administrator and justice of Viseu, the most feared and austere in the region for his sense of justice and severity. During the reign of King Afonso V permeated him to fight
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I have never had the occassion to copy and paste so I can't honestly say that I know how to do that. I will try to copy amd paste and if not retype everything that you sent me and have it translated. Thanks for all your time and effort. - Original Message - That was a ROUGH (and i do mean rough) translation through google translate. If anyone has a lot more time, here is the original text i found, untranslated. A Família Cabral A Família Cabral teve sempre uma grande influência e prestígio no concelho de Mangualde pelo seu sentimento patriótico e de força perante as crises nacionais. Esta família recusou-se "beija-mão de Leonor Teles e assim a reconhecê-la como Rainha de Portugal e [...] perder o senhorio das terras de Azurara; mais tarde, como penhor da dedicação que o Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, Álvaro Gil Cabral, manifestou pela independência de Portugal [...] Mestre de Avis, quando era Regedor e defensor do reino; finalmente, um descendente do mesmo Álvaro Gil Cabral as perde em consequência do nobre gesto que teve para com D. Filipe II de Espanha" 1 .Embora em investigações, desenvolvidas por Dr. Alexandre Alves mais recentes as não confirmem a última ideia de retiradas de terras por parte da Coroa. Durante a época da monarquia Mangualde nunca foi esquecida, por se tratar da terra de da família de Pedro Álvares Cabral, pois para além de descobridor do Brasil foi Alcaide-Mor da vila de Azurara da Beira. Portanto a primeira época onde a Família Cabral destaca o seu poder é durante a crise de 1383-85,apoiando sempre o Mestre de Avis. O grande defensor era Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, avô de Pedro Álvares Cabral, que em troca recebeu as terras do concelho de Azurara da Beira, sendo os estas terras e tornou-se senhor do Castelo de Belmonte: "o Mestre de Avis [...] doou ao seu vassalo Álvaro Gil, por carta passada em Lisboa, em 27 de Março de 1384, a terra de Zurara, de juro e herdade, para ele e seus descendentes legítimos, cõ todallas rendas, foros e tributos dela, assy e pela gisa que a nós auemos..." 2 . Estas benesses foram-lhe dadas antes de D. João I ascender: "mas antes de subir ao trono, D. João já recompensara muitos dos que o apoiavam na sua luta, tendo sido um deles, Álvares Gil Cabral" 3 , pois o mestre de Avis ascendeu graças ao apoio popular, de membros da nobreza e burguesia. Álvaro Gil presenciou as Cortes de Coimbra, quando foi declarado D. João I, Rei de Portugal. Pouco dados existem de Álvaro Gil Cabral, segundo Alexandre Alves, "era filho de D. Gil, deão da Guarda, mais tarde bispo da mesma cidade [...]. Do seu casamento com Maria (ou Catarina) Aires de Loureiro, de Silgueiros, houve Álvaro Gil os seguintes filhos: Luís Álvares Cabral" 4 e outros. Luís Álvares Cabral destacou-se ser o sucessor de Zurara, alcaide do Castelo de Belmonte, sendo seleccionado para integrar a Casa do Infante D. Henrique. "Nomeado pelo Infante capitão de uma das galés da armada organizada no Porto em 1415 em vista da expedição de Ceuta, é citado com seu filho Fernando Álvares" 5 . Ele casou duas vezes e teve vários filhos, destacando-se o sucessor Fernão d'Álvares Cabral ou Fernando Álvares Cabral. Depois deste sucedeu-lhe seu filho Fernão Alvares Cabral, ascendeu socialmente "pagem, moço fidalgo, escudeiro e por fim cavaleiro da Casa do Infante D. Henrique" . embora fosse para Ceuta com seu pai não fez parte da conquista, porque ficou doente e desembarcou em Tarifa até se recuperar, e quando bom foi viver para Ceuta durante algum tempo defendendo a cidade contra os mouros. Casou com D. Teresa de Andrade moravam em Viseu e teve três filhos, o primeiro faleceu em criança, sendo seu sucessor o segundo Fernão Cabral. Grande defensor do povo de Azurara levando até ao rei os seus problemas viu aumentados seus territórios "doações de Azurara, Manteigas e Quinta de Santo André [...] de Moimenta a par de Gouveia" e deixam de ser cobradas "tomadias e maladias em terras de Zurara, que é reguengo del-Rei" 6 por ordem de El-Rei D. Duarte. Fernando Álvares Cabral morreu em 1437. Posteriormente ascendeu Fernão Cabral ou Fernão Cabral - O velho, nasceu por volta de 1427 e faleceu entre 1492 ou 1493. Dominavam um grande extensão de território e casou com D. Isabel de Gouveia, e tiveram muitos filhos para cima de dez. Com seu prestígio foi "criado do Infante D. Henrique e fidalgo das Casas e do Conselho dos reis D. Afonso V e D. João II" 7 . O Regedor da Justiça da Beira, Riba Côa e administrador da justiça de Viseu, o mais temido e austero da região pelo seu sentido de justiça e severidade. Durante o reinado de D. Afonso V permeou-o por combater com ele para se apoderar das praças do norte de África e recebeu de forma vitalícia a alcaidaria de Belmonte e o padroado de Igreja de São Julião de Mangualde "D. Afonso V, por carta datada de Santarém, em 30 de Ab
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Interesting thatk you I will see what Azurara means. - Original Message - Hi Geneva, What you are looking at is a Portuguese abbreviation. The little zero after a number, like 1º or 2º means first or second. Spelled out in full it is "primeiro" and "segundo." So Luis Alvares Cabral 2º Senhor de Azurara means he is the second "Senhor de Azurara" which is a title and means he is the land owner of particular property granted by the Portuguese king. Now, I don't know where or what Azurara is, but you can find it on Google. I have a friend in Lisboa who is the hereditary title owner of some similar property called Fronteira. These are noble families. But not all are properties. Another friend and distant cousin is the current title holder of Ávila or maybe it's Bettencourt - I forget (Ávila is a location, but in this case it is the Ávila or Bettencourt family from the Azores). Most of the time you will only find any links to such families from 500 years ago, or more when you hit upon a noble family branch. In your example, there is a 2º and then a 3º holder of Azurara. It can be a title passed down from father to son, but might also be to some other legitimate heir. In this case 3º means "terceiro" or third. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico & Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com ---- Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles From: GENEVA < ggervais1...@centurylink.net > Date: Mon, April 01, 2013 4:49 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I tried to send an attachment from geni, but the page came up blank. Anyway I was searching geni.com . I looked up Cabral and found lots of family members. The following had these notations attached to their file. Luis Alvares Cabral 2 degree Senhor de Azurara. Fernao Cabral 4 degree Senhor de Azurara and Fernando Alves Cabral 3 degree Senhor de Azurara. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Hi Geneva,What you are looking at is a Portuguese abbreviation.The little zero after a number, like 1º or 2º means first or second. Spelled out in full it is "primeiro" and "segundo."So Luis Alvares Cabral 2º Senhor de Azurara means he is the second "Senhor de Azurara" which is a title and means he is the land owner of particular property granted by the Portuguese king.Now, I don't know where or what Azurara is, but you can find it on Google.I have a friend in Lisboa who is the hereditary title owner of some similar property called Fronteira. These are noble families. But not all are properties. Another friend and distant cousin is the current title holder of Ávila or maybe it's Bettencourt - I forget (Ávila is a location, but in this case it is the Ávila or Bettencourt family from the Azores).Most of the time you will only find any links to such families from 500 years ago, or more when you hit upon a noble family branch. In your example, there is a 2º and then a 3º holder of Azurara. It can be a title passed down from father to son, but might also be to some other legitimate heir. In this case 3º means "terceiro" or third.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com ---- Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles From: GENEVA <ggervais1...@centurylink.net> Date: Mon, April 01, 2013 4:49 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com I tried to send an attachment from geni, but the page came up blank. Anyway I was searching geni.com. I looked up Cabral and found lots of family members. The following had these notations attached to their file. Luis Alvares Cabral 2 degree Senhor de Azurara. Fernao Cabral 4 degree Senhor de Azurara and Fernando Alves Cabral 3 degree Senhor de Azurara. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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That was a ROUGH (and i do mean rough) translation through google translate. If anyone has a lot more time, here is the original text i found, untranslated. A Família Cabral A Família Cabral teve sempre uma grande influência e prestígio no concelho de Mangualde pelo seu sentimento patriótico e de força perante as crises nacionais. Esta família recusou-se "beija-mão de Leonor Teles e assim a reconhecê-la como Rainha de Portugal e [...] perder o senhorio das terras de Azurara; mais tarde, como penhor da dedicação que o Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, Álvaro Gil Cabral, manifestou pela independência de Portugal [...] Mestre de Avis, quando era Regedor e defensor do reino; finalmente, um descendente do mesmo Álvaro Gil Cabral as perde em consequência do nobre gesto que teve para com D. Filipe II de Espanha"1 .Embora em investigações, desenvolvidas por Dr. Alexandre Alves mais recentes as não confirmem a última ideia de retiradas de terras por parte da Coroa. Durante a época da monarquia Mangualde nunca foi esquecida, por se tratar da terra de da família de Pedro Álvares Cabral, pois para além de descobridor do Brasil foi Alcaide-Mor da vila de Azurara da Beira. Portanto a primeira época onde a Família Cabral destaca o seu poder é durante a crise de 1383-85,apoiando sempre o Mestre de Avis. O grande defensor era Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor da Guarda, avô de Pedro Álvares Cabral, que em troca recebeu as terras do concelho de Azurara da Beira, sendo os estas terras e tornou-se senhor do Castelo de Belmonte: "o Mestre de Avis [...] doou ao seu vassalo Álvaro Gil, por carta passada em Lisboa, em 27 de Março de 1384, a terra de Zurara, de juro e herdade, para ele e seus descendentes legítimos, cõ todallas rendas, foros e tributos dela, assy e pela gisa que a nós auemos..."2. Estas benesses foram-lhe dadas antes de D. João I ascender: "mas antes de subir ao trono, D. João já recompensara muitos dos que o apoiavam na sua luta, tendo sido um deles, Álvares Gil Cabral"3, pois o mestre de Avis ascendeu graças ao apoio popular, de membros da nobreza e burguesia. Álvaro Gil presenciou as Cortes de Coimbra, quando foi declarado D. João I, Rei de Portugal. Pouco dados existem de Álvaro Gil Cabral, segundo Alexandre Alves, "era filho de D. Gil, deão da Guarda, mais tarde bispo da mesma cidade [...]. Do seu casamento com Maria (ou Catarina) Aires de Loureiro, de Silgueiros, houve Álvaro Gil os seguintes filhos: Luís Álvares Cabral"4 e outros. Luís Álvares Cabral destacou-se ser o sucessor de Zurara, alcaide do Castelo de Belmonte, sendo seleccionado para integrar a Casa do Infante D. Henrique. "Nomeado pelo Infante capitão de uma das galés da armada organizada no Porto em 1415 em vista da expedição de Ceuta, é citado com seu filho Fernando Álvares"5. Ele casou duas vezes e teve vários filhos, destacando-se o sucessor Fernão d'Álvares Cabral ou Fernando Álvares Cabral. Depois deste sucedeu-lhe seu filho Fernão Alvares Cabral, ascendeu socialmente "pagem, moço fidalgo, escudeiro e por fim cavaleiro da Casa do Infante D. Henrique". embora fosse para Ceuta com seu pai não fez parte da conquista, porque ficou doente e desembarcou em Tarifa até se recuperar, e quando bom foi viver para Ceuta durante algum tempo defendendo a cidade contra os mouros. Casou com D. Teresa de Andrade moravam em Viseu e teve três filhos, o primeiro faleceu em criança, sendo seu sucessor o segundo Fernão Cabral. Grande defensor do povo de Azurara levando até ao rei os seus problemas viu aumentados seus territórios"doações de Azurara, Manteigas e Quinta de Santo André [...] de Moimenta a par de Gouveia" e deixam de ser cobradas "tomadias e maladias em terras de Zurara, que é reguengo del-Rei"6 por ordem de El-Rei D. Duarte. Fernando Álvares Cabral morreu em 1437. Posteriormente ascendeu Fernão Cabral ou Fernão Cabral - O velho, nasceu por volta de 1427 e faleceu entre 1492 ou 1493. Dominavam um grande extensão de território e casou com D. Isabel de Gouveia, e tiveram muitos filhos para cima de dez. Com seu prestígio foi "criado do Infante D. Henrique e fidalgo das Casas e do Conselho dos reis D. Afonso V e D. João II"7. O Regedor da Justiça da Beira, Riba Côa e administrador da justiça de Viseu, o mais temido e austero da região pelo seu sentido de justiça e severidade. Durante o reinado de D. Afonso V permeou-o por combater com ele para se apoderar das praças do norte de África e recebeu de forma vitalícia a alcaidaria de Belmonte e o padroado de Igreja de São Julião de Mangualde "D. Afonso V, por carta datada de Santarém, em 30 de Abril de 1462, faz mercê a Fernão Cabral, fidalgo de nossa casa, do padroado da igreja de S. Julião de Azurara"8, sendo esta doação confirmada em 1509 por D. Manuel I. Mandou fazer reformas nas casas de Colmeal das Donas, nas grandes tulhas na Quinta de São Cosmadinho e na Igreja de São Julião de Mangualde.
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Here is the url to google translate: http://translate.google.ca/ Just copy and paste any portuguese text into the left pane and google translate will provide you with a translation within a few seconds. I think the Senhor de Azurara is referring to the fact that this Cabral line were wealthy landowners of an area in Portugal called Azurara. So the translation would be "Lord of Azurara". Hence, 2nd lord of Azurara etc etc. (See below) The Cabral Family The Cabral family has always had a great influence and prestige in the municipality of Viseu by his patriotic feeling and strength in the face of national crises. This family refused to "kiss the hand of Leonor Teles and thus recognize her as Queen of Portugal and [...] miss the landlord's land Azurara; later, as a pledge of dedication that Alcaide-Mor Guard Álvaro Gil Cabral, stated the independence of Portugal [...] Master of Avis, was when Regedor and defender of the realm, and finally, a descendant of the same Álvaro Gil Cabral lost as a result of the noble gesture that had to with Philip D. II of Spain "1. Though investigations, developed by Dr. Alexandre Alves latest not confirm the idea of the last land taken by the Crown. During the time of the monarchy Mangualde was never forgotten, because it is the land of the family of Pedro Álvares Cabral, because beyond discoverer of Brazil was Alcaide-Mor Village Azurara Beira. So the first time where Cabral Family highlights is its power during the crisis of 1383-85, always supporting the Master of Avis. The big defender was Álvaro Gil Cabral Alcaide-Mor Guard, grandfather Pedro Álvares Cabral, who in turn received the lands of the county Azurara Beira, these being the lands and became lord of the Castle of Belmonte: "Master of Avis [...] donated to his vassal Alvaro Gil by letter last in Lisbon on March 27, 1384, to land Zurara, estate and interest, for him and his legitimate descendants, co todallas rents, taxes and forums her assy and the gisa that we auemos ... "2. These handouts were given to you before D. John I ascend, "but before ascending the throne as King John will reward many who supported him in his fight, having been one of them, Álvares Cabral Gil" 3, for the master of Avis rose thanks to popular support of members the nobility and bourgeoisie. Álvaro Gil witnessed the Cortes of Coimbra, when it was declared D. John I, King of Portugal. Little data exist Álvaro Gil Cabral, according to Alexandre Alves, "was the son of D. Gil, dean of the Guard, later bishop of the same city [...]. From his marriage with Maria (or Catherine) Aires de Loureiro, from Silgueiros, Alvaro Gil were the following children: Luís Álvares Cabral "4 and others. Luís Álvares Cabral said to be the successor of Zurara, mayor of Belmonte Castle, being selected to join the House of Prince Henrique. "Appointed by Infante captain of one of the organized armed galleys in Oporto in 1415 in view of Ceuta expedition is quoted with his son Fernando Alvares" 5. He married twice and had several children, highlighting the successor d'Fernão Álvares Cabral and Fernando Alvares Cabral. After this succeeded by his son Ferdinand Alvares Cabral, ascended socially "pagem, young gentleman, squire and knight of the order by Casa do Infante D. Henrique." though to Ceuta with his father was not part of the conquest, because he got sick and landed in Tarifa to recover, and when he moved to Ceuta good for a while defending the city against the Moors. She married D. Teresa lived in Viseu de Andrade and had three children, died in the first child, the second being his successor Jonathan Cabral. Great defender of the people of Azurara leading up to the king saw their problems increased their territories "donations Azurara, Butters and Quinta de Santo André [...] of Moimenta alongside Gouveia" and cease to be charged "in tomadias and maladias Zurara of land, which is reguengo the King "6 in order of King D. Duarte. Fernando Alvares Cabral died in 1437. Later amounted Fernão Cabral or Fernão Cabral - The old, was born around 1427 and died between 1492 and 1493. Dominated a large expanse of territory and married D. Isabel de Gouveia, and had many sons upwards of ten. With its prestige was "created of Henry and gentleman of the Houses and the Council of Kings Alfonso V and John II" 7. The Regedor Justice of Beira, Riba Coa administrator and justice of Viseu, the most feared and austere in the region for his sense of justice and severity. During the reign of King Afonso V permeated him to fight with him to take over the squares of northern Africa and received a lifetime so alcaidaria Belmonte and patronage of St. Julien Church Mangualde "D. Afonso V, by letter of Santarém, in 30 April 1462, makes the mercy Fernão Cabral, a nobleman of our house, the patronage of the church of St. Julian of Azurara "8, and this donation confir
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My suggestion:to copy and paste the Portuguese text from RR and paste it into the online Google translator for a rough translation. Hi! I'm interested in knowing how to do this, also. I'll need really good instructions! Thanks. - Shirl - -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I tried to send an attachment. No luck. Page is blank. Family members were on geni.com Luis Alvares Cabral, Fernando Alvares C abral, Fernao Cabral. - Original Message - Geneva, Can you post the link or attach the record where you found this? It doesn't make sense. Degrees usually refer to a cousin marriage. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I tried to send an attachment from geni, but the page came up blank. Anyway I was searching geni.com. I looked up Cabral and found lots of family members. The following had these notations attached to their file. Luis Alvares Cabral 2 degree Senhor de Azurara. Fernao C abral 4 degree Senhor de Azurara and Fernando Alves C abral 3 degree Senhor de Azurara. I guess the only way to get this information to you is for you to search these people, sorry. - Original Message - Geneva, my suggestion is to copy and paste the Portuguese text from RR and paste it into the online Google translator for a rough translation. Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-01, at 1:45 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello: When researching some of my family names I came across some titles that I don't understand. There are family members that have the title of Senhor de Azurara with 1 degree or 2 or 3 or 4. What does this mean. thanks geneva -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Thanks I'll see what I can come up with. - Original Message - Geneva, my suggestion is to copy and paste the Portuguese text from RR and paste it into the online Google translator for a rough translation. Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-01, at 1:45 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello: When researching some of my family names I came across some titles that I don't understand. There are family members that have the title of Senhor de Azurara with 1 degree or 2 or 3 or 4. What does this mean. thanks geneva -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Geneva, my suggestion is to copy and paste the Portuguese text from RR and paste it into the online Google translator for a rough translation. Sent from my iPad On 2013-04-01, at 1:45 PM, ggervais1...@centurylink.net wrote: > Hello: > > When researching some of my family names I came across some titles that I > don't understand. There are family members that have the title of Senhor de > Azurara with 1 degree or 2 or 3 or 4. What does this mean. > thanks > geneva > -- > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Geneva, Can you post the link or attach the record where you found this? It doesn't make sense. Degrees usually refer to a cousin marriage. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] titles
Dear Nancy,
"Dona" just means "Mrs" or "Miss".
Beijos.
Natalia.
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Greetings Group,
While reading so many records from Sao Jorge I've noticed that occassionally
women have the title "Dona". I'm curious what it signifies. It isn't simply the
name Dona but a title of some sort.
Thank you,
Nancy Jean Baptiste
researching:
Pico for da Castro, Cardoza, Pixotto, Furtado
Sao Jorge for Baptista, Veterino, Bettencourt, Silveira, Teixeira, Pereira,
Enos, Lemos
Santa Maria for Cabral
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