[backstage] Psiphon
Just stumbled upon this, and thought it may be of interest to some folks on the list: http://psiphon.civisec.org According to the front page, psiphon is a human rights software project developed by the Citizen Lab http://www.citizenlab.org/ at the Munk Centre for International Studies that allows citizens in uncensored countries to provide unfettered access to the Net through their home computers to friends and family members who live behind firewalls of states that censor. Mario.
Re: [backstage] Psiphon
Wow, I will be watching the next World Cup live on the BBC then. ;-) If this does what I think it will, then the resulting discussion will, again, have consequences for everyone. Personally, I like the idea of sharing and from this side of the Channel, the UK is a state that censors. I accept the reasons why, copyright etc. but this will push those regulations once more. Now, I am off to find a trusted friend. :-) Thanks Mario. On 27 Nov 2006, at 10:17, Mario Menti wrote: Just stumbled upon this, and thought it may be of interest to some folks on the list: http://psiphon.civisec.org According to the front page, psiphon is a human rights software project developed by the Citizen Lab at the Munk Centre for International Studies that allows citizens in uncensored countries to provide unfettered access to the Net through their home computers to friends and family members who live behind firewalls of states that censor. Mario.
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What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an application and using one is as easy as typing in a url? It means I finally get to listen to the Ashes here in Austria :-) On 27/11/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it looks like some kind of GPL tunnelling service/application? Looks interesting though, specially if they make it super easy to use. It does raise a whole load of privacy questions for the user (I would suggest Tor is better in that case) and lots of questions for a broadcaster such as the BBC who uses GeoIP. What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an application and using one is as easy as typing in a url? Interesting :) Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 27 November 2006 11:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon Wow, I will be watching the next World Cup live on the BBC then. ;-) If this does what I think it will, then the resulting discussion will, again, have consequences for everyone. Personally, I like the idea of sharing and from this side of the Channel, the UK is a state that censors. I accept the reasons why, copyright etc. but this will push those regulations once more. Now, I am off to find a trusted friend. :-) Thanks Mario. On 27 Nov 2006, at 10:17, Mario Menti wrote: Just stumbled upon this, and thought it may be of interest to some folks on the list: http://psiphon.civisec.org According to the front page, psiphon is a human rights software project developed by the Citizen Lab at the Munk Centre for International Studies that allows citizens in uncensored countries to provide unfettered access to the Net through their home computers to friends and family members who live behind firewalls of states that censor. Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Psiphon
On 11/27/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an application and using one is as easy as typing in a url? isn't that what Torpark is all about? http://www.torrify.com/ -- Jakob. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Psiphon
Alright alright, I walked into the last two comments :) But its certainly an interesting debate, what would (we) the BBC do if Geo IP was so easily passed. And what would you do if it was so easy? I thought this might be amusing for some. http://blogs.opml.org/tommorris/2006/11/27#obviousTruthsForIdiotsInSuits Specially this line - Television isn't dead yet. But, for me, it's lying on the ground wounded. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix Sent: 27 November 2006 14:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon On 11/27/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an application and using one is as easy as typing in a url? isn't that what Torpark is all about? http://www.torrify.com/ -- Jakob. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] News full feeds
On 11/27/06, Duncan Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its part of something else I'm working on but in itself has been useful to me, basically I've written a quick little RSS reparser for the news feeds so that I can read the full text on my PDA on my way into work without having a dataplan. Thought it might be useful to others at any rate, I've explained it a bit more here: http://www.barnesdmd.co.uk/site/blog/2006/11/27/bbc-rss-reparser/ Neat. Not sure what's wrong with AvantGo, mind... ? Incidentally, www.mediauk.com/p is a (possibly slightly out-of-date) collection of sites designed to display on PDAs, Palm Pilots or mobile phones; which might be of interest to PDA-types. Feel free to contact me with any additions/deletions. -- http://james.cridland.net/contacting_me/
Re: [backstage] Psiphon
I think it is pretty laughable :-) I am very happy to pay for quality and expensive programming, but being censored from the same, just because of a legal precedent, is almost the ultimate insult, especially if one does have a UK TV license. In my hallucination, it should take one person within Auntie's legal department about a month to change the contracts for content production, add some budget for servers and bandwidth, to make the biggest change to how the BBC works since radio gave way to black and white TV. I can hear the voices of resistance still. There is absolutely no reason not to, and if the BBC doesn't, it will probably find all of its best content hosted all over the world for anyone to see anyway. just as CBS have found out. So where exactly did all this locking out and streaming certain content to certain places come from? Big brother? :-) How about leading the way with both feet in to a new world of a really universal BBC on the net, with none of the boundaries? The opposite to the TV world. I'm sure that a way could be programmed to reverse Psiphon or the like, with something like realtime P2P to distribute the feeds via a massive server of trusted associates, now that would be exciting. I'll pay and deliver, how's that? I hope that the future is MAC addresses, not IP's. Richard On 27 Nov 2006, at 18:23, Ian Forrester wrote: Its certainly interesting. Something I was reading the other day http://torrentfreak.com/downloading-tv-shows-leads-to-more-tv- watching/ Earlier this month we estimated that almost a million viewers get their latest Lost episode through BitTorrent. TV broadcasters are now beginning to realize that making shows available for download is helping their business, instead of hurting it. CBS's chief research officer David Poltrack said that online distribution services like YouTube and BitTorrent are friends, not foes. Poltrack is not too keen on the paid distribution model iTunes offers right now. He thinks that TV shows should be available for free via ad-supported models. In a panel discussion at the Future of Television Forum Poltrack said that if [consumers] are going to steal it, give it to them anyway. But also make it easier to access and present it better than YouTube or BitTorrent or anywhere else. :) Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard P Edwards Sent: 27 November 2006 18:07 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon I believe that the music market place has already answered your question Ian. The only successful new model allows the customer to use any authorised device to play the downloaded music on. therefore quelling a few of the customers complaints, but still not going far enough. If I can already watch content on my computer, then the BBC has to acknowledge that the same computer can travel with me, so using Geo IP becomes a censorship which I will either find a way around, or go and view someone else's content. As is mentioned on today's News site, perhaps the real debate should therefore be the other way around, how does the BBC keep its viewers. and why is there so much fear about losing content, when as soon as it appears on TV it is effectively sold anyway? I agree with Ricky Gervais, I don't think that a program loses its value just because someone can download it. In fact, if it is good enough then it finds a larger market place. I understand the law completely, but as has also been affected today, perhaps the thinking of the suits is slightly out of touch where copyright is concerned. :-) I would love to see the BBC reverse its thinking and engage us, as the public, in allowing much more access, even if they have to pressure government to change the law. There is nothing to fear :-) On 27 Nov 2006, at 16:01, Ian Forrester wrote: Alright alright, I walked into the last two comments :) But its certainly an interesting debate, what would (we) the BBC do if Geo IP was so easily passed. And what would you do if it was so easy? I thought this might be amusing for some. http://blogs.opml.org/tommorris/ 2006/11/27#obviousTruthsForIdiotsInSuits Specially this line - Television isn't dead yet. But, for me, it's lying on the ground wounded. Ian Forrester || backstage.bbc.co.uk || x83965 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix Sent: 27 November 2006 14:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Psiphon On 11/27/06, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when setting up a proxy service is as easy as running an application and using one is as easy as typing in a url? isn't that what Torpark is all about? http://www.torrify.com/ -- Jakob. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To
Re: [backstage] News full feeds
I've nothing against AvantGo as such, its a nice program and all but I've never got along with it very well. No strong reason apart from not liking the way the GUI works, personal preference I guess! Just one of those things! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
