Re: [backstage] Open Flash

2008-05-03 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/5/3 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 This is the most positive thing that I have heard in ages... Microsoft
 exec going from being evil Borg drone to just plain incompetent.

 I know your position about the BBC executives, could you fill us in a little
 with some analysis of the Microsoft situation?  Are they nearing their IBM
 moment?

They are trying to submit a DRM format for fonts to the W3C, initially
to be a part of CSS3 but that was rejected so now its as its own
standard.

http://www.w3.org/Submission/2008/SUBM-EOT-20080305/

Perhaps this is so bonkers that its a first sign of the IBM moment :-)

Opera, PrinceXML and Safari support TrueType fonts via @font-face
already - backstage developers ought to play with this important
aspect of CSS3 :-)

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Dave
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Re: [backstage] Open Flash

2008-05-03 Thread Dan Brickley

Dave Crossland wrote:

2008/5/2 Tim Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

simon wrote:

Adobe is removing restrictions on the use of the SWF and FLV/F4V
specifications says Aral Balkan: http://aralbalkan.com/1332

Interesting, I thought.

I'll be interested to get Dave Crossland's perspective on this.


Adobe's dominance in this area of computing is being challenged in two
ways - by Microsoft (Silverlight) and GNU (Gnash) - so they are taking
evasive action to try and maintain their dominance.


Does Gnash really challenge Adobe? Any more than Wine, Samba, dotgnu or 
Mono seriously challenge Microsoft/Windows dominance? I'm pretty 
skeptical. OK that's over polite. I think you're mistaken.


Rather it reinforces a classic argument but it's an open standard! the 
spec is (now) out there, ... and look ... Gnash ... there are multiple 
implementations, even opensource ones.


On top of that, things are set up for an equally classic you've tried 
the rest now try the best argument. If you've committed to Flash, best 
to use the real thing eh? Users have a choice now: they can get an 
implementation from the leaders or from the followers. (not my view but 
a natural spin on things)


I see vastly more pressure on Adobe from Silverlight, and from the 
return of HTML/.js post-Ajax. As W3C explores addition of video and 
more to HTML, the special benefit of embedding these alien objects in 
Web pages begins to shrink. Gnash is - don't get me wrong - a great 
project. But this isn't some David/Goliath triumph.


What evidence do you see pointing to Gnash threatening Adobe?

cheers,

Dan

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Re: [backstage] Open Flash

2008-05-03 Thread Steve Jolly

Dan Brickley wrote:
On top of that, things are set up for an equally classic you've tried 
the rest now try the best argument. If you've committed to Flash, best 
to use the real thing eh? Users have a choice now: they can get an 
implementation from the leaders or from the followers. (not my view but 
a natural spin on things)


I agree with most of your points, but this one is only valid given a 
couple of presuppositions: namely that Adobe makes its own Flash player 
available for the platform you're using, and that the platform you're 
using supports user installation of software.  The less your platform 
looks like a regular PC, the less valid these assumptions are likely to 
be (for now).


S

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