Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sam Mbale
thanxs for the update

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Tyson Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmm, I haven't seen the links yet, but don't they want to make
> something like Unity or the AT&T browser? (But with an InPrivate-esque
> feature).
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> Tyson
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Martin Belam
I see this is for Windows users only. I for one want to register my
outrage etc etc.

;-)






2008/9/2 Sam Mbale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> thanxs for the update
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Tyson Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, I haven't seen the links yet, but don't they want to make
>> something like Unity or the AT&T browser? (But with an InPrivate-esque
>> feature).
>>
>> Tyson
>>
>> On 9/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> >
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/9/2 Martin Belam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I see this is for Windows users only. I for one want to register my
> outrage etc etc.

If they are making GTK work properly on Mac OS X and Windows, I don't
mind the wait.

Cheers,
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RE: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Christopher Woods
> If they are making GTK work properly on Mac OS X and Windows, 
> I don't mind the wait.


I heard about this again on Radio 4 whilst in the car earlier... While I
already knew about it, it suddenly made me realise - it's yet another
browser and DOM to code for.


Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web
standards. Someone think of the developers!

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Fred Phillips
On Tue Sep  2 15:51:38 2008, Christopher Woods wrote:
> Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web
> standards. Someone think of the developers!

You never know, Chrome might be standards compliant…

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RE: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Christopher Woods
> On Tue Sep  2 15:51:38 2008, Christopher Woods wrote:
> > Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 
> 'take' on 
> > web standards. Someone think of the developers!
> 
> You never know, Chrome might be standards compliant.

Oh god no, that means we'll have to do fully standards compliant pages and
then code for the other three! I will be scouring Google's pages like a hawk
for incorrect rendering as soon as I install Chrome.


I also foresee a burgeoning macromarket in drop-in PHP classes which
autodetect the browser and beautify/uglify the code based on whether it's
Chrome or not :D

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Dave Crossland
2008/9/2 Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Tue Sep  2 15:51:38 2008, Christopher Woods wrote:
>> > Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own
>> 'take' on
>> > web standards. Someone think of the developers!
>>
>> You never know, Chrome might be standards compliant.
>
> Oh god no, that means we'll have to do fully standards compliant pages and
> then code for the other three! I will be scouring Google's pages like a hawk
> for incorrect rendering as soon as I install Chrome.

Its based on WebKit, so not really. WebKit is LGPLv2, so Safari and
all the other webkit browsers will from Google's improvements.

http://webkit.org/coding/lgpl-license.html

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Jeremy James
Christopher Woods wrote:
>> If they are making GTK work properly on Mac OS X and Windows, 
>> I don't mind the wait.
> 
> I heard about this again on Radio 4 whilst in the car earlier... While I
> already knew about it, it suddenly made me realise - it's yet another
> browser and DOM to code for.
> 
> Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web
> standards. Someone think of the developers!

Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of
your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as
HTML rendering is concerned. V8 may show its own differences in terms of
javascript execution, but you can bet Google's test-first development
for this browser should mean there wont be many problems in the standard
code on most mainstream websites. If you're using toolkits, then it wont
be your problem anyway.

-jeremy

(* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?)
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Re: [backstage] BBC "clock"

2008-09-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
Flash 101?

2008/9/2 D P Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Sorry to revisit this. Does anyone know the licence/source for the clock at
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> Darren
> On 28 jul 2008, at 18.14, Jonathan Baldwin wrote:
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> This is one of my favourite Flash clocks:
> http://yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
>
> If you're halfway decent with Flash, here's a tutorial to make your own
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> http://www.entheosweb.com/Flash/analog_clock.asp
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RE: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Christopher Woods
> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari 
> as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should 
> be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned.

Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence
though :/

> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?)

I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have
any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering
wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)

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RE: [backstage] BBC "clock"

2008-09-02 Thread Christopher Woods
 

Flash 101?

I remember someone advertising on the list that they'd recreated all these
oldskool BBC clocks in Flash, and I marvelled at the intricacy and accuracy
of some of them (particularly the mockups of the old mechanical ones) - I
was under the impression the people responsible for the redesign of the Beeb
site asked him nicely if they could use the clock for the site?
 
I might be slightly fuzzy around the edges on this one, but I don't think my
subconscious make up something as overly complex as that :)


Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.google.com/chrome

The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage...



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari
>> as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should
>> be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned.
>
> Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence
> though :/
>
>> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?)
>
> I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have
> any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering
> wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)
>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sean DALY
They have also placed the link on their main homepage...


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.google.com/chrome
>
> The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari
>>> as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should
>>> be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned.
>>
>> Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence
>> though :/
>>
>>> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?)
>>
>> I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have
>> any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering
>> wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Andy
It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!

Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
Linux version working.

The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Graeme Mulvaney
It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable
- even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
>
> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
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> Linux version working.
>
> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Chris Riley
The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome!First
impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed.

Chris

2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> http://www.google.com/chrome
>
> The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the
> homepage...
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari
> >> as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should
> >> be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned.
> >
> > Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence
> > though :/
> >
> >> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?)
> >
> > I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't
> have
> > any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but
> rendering
> > wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Bowyer
2008/9/2 Chris Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome!
> First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick
> indeed.

Agreed - very speedy.

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sean DALY
http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html

In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
under a BSD-style licence.



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
> I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
> Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable
> - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
>>
>> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
>> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
>> Linux version working.
>>
>> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
>>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Gary Kirk
Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it
has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?

2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html
>
> In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
> under a BSD-style licence.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
> > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
> > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
> stable
> > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
> >>
> >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
> >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
> >> Linux version working.
> >>
> >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
> >>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve.
However..  I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C:
drive is only 2GB!

Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC

2008/9/2 Gary Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
> bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it
> has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?
>
> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html
>>
>>
>> In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
>> under a BSD-style licence.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
>> > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
>> > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
>> stable
>> > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
>> >>
>> >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
>> >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
>> >> Linux version working.
>> >>
>> >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
>> >>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either..  It's a bit of a
fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen.
Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks..  it
installs the IE version and fires up IE.

Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word "Google"!

2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve.
> However..  I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C:
> drive is only 2GB!
>
> Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC
>
> 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
>> bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it
>> has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?
>>
>> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html
>>>
>>>
>>> In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
>>> under a BSD-style licence.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
>>> > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
>>> > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
>>> stable
>>> > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
>>> >>
>>> >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
>>> >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
>>> >> Linux version working.
>>> >>
>>> >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
>>> >>
>>> >> Andy
>>> >> -
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Brian Butterworth
And when your plugins crash...
http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG

2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either..  It's a bit of a
> fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen.
> Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks..  it
> installs the IE version and fires up IE.
>
> Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word "Google"!
>
> 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve.
>> However..  I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C:
>> drive is only 2GB!
>>
>> Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC
>>
>> 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
>>> bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it
>>> has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?
>>>
>>> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
 http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html


 In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
 under a BSD-style licence.



 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
 > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
 > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
 stable
 > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
 >
 > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 >>
 >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
 >>
 >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
 >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
 >> Linux version working.
 >>
 >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
 >>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Andy
Brian Butterworth wrote:
> And when your plugins crash...
> http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG

Well that's certainly better than it crashing the entire browser!

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Gary Kirk
A lot of it is sensible but we're just not used to it. Of course a new tab
should open next to the tab you opened it from, but it doesn't work like
that in Firefox, so of course I'm looking at the far right of my screen..

2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> And when your plugins crash...
> http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG
>
>
> 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either..  It's a bit of a
>> fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen.
>> Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks..  it
>> installs the IE version and fires up IE.
>>
>> Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word "Google"!
>>
>> 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve.
>>> However..  I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C:
>>> drive is only 2GB!
>>>
>>> Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC
>>>
>>> 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
 bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing 
 it
 has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?

 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html
>
>
> In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
> under a BSD-style licence.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
> > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a
> different
> > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
> stable
> > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
> >>
> >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
> >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
> >> Linux version working.
> >>
> >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
> >>
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Peter Bowyer
2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> And when your plugins crash...
> http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG

I love it!

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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Martyn Green
So far this is  working like a rocket. Hasn't crashed yet, no major disasters 
with the renderer and I keep finding lots of nice little touches like the 
in-page search and how you can drag textareas to make them bigger. I'm sure 
there are many more. I don't think I'll be uninstalling firefox anytime soon, 
but its an impressive start.

Not sure about the logo though - it's either too much like the Windows media 
player logo - or that Simon game.
The 'help' page option on the settings menu takes me to a 404  :-|




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>>> "Brian Butterworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/2/2008 5:13:47 PM >>>
And when your plugins crash...
http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG 

2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either..  It's a bit of a
> fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen.
> Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks..  it
> installs the IE version and fires up IE.
>
> Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word "Google"!
>
> 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve.
>> However..  I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C:
>> drive is only 2GB!
>>
>> Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC
>>
>> 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by
>>> bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it
>>> has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this?
>>>
>>> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
 http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html 


 In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released
 under a BSD-style licence.



 On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 > It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista.
 > I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different
 > Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly
 stable
 > - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy.
 >
 > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 >>
 >> It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works!
 >>
 >> Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for
 >> email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the
 >> Linux version working.
 >>
 >> The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though.
 >>
 >> Andy
 >> -
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Vladimir Harman
How can I control security and cookies in google browser...i mean the security 
and protection set up? also, if the google browser goes linux, will it be open 
source code?


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Chris Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Chris Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:11 PM
> The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in
> Gmail, in Chrome!First
> impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very
> quick indeed.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > http://www.google.com/chrome
> >
> > The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer
> back to the
> > homepage...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you
> already count Safari
> > >> as one of your three (*) existing major
> browsers, you should
> > >> be fine as far as HTML rendering is
> concerned.
> > >
> > > Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't
> inspire a great deal of confidence
> > > though :/
> > >
> > >> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are
> you not developing for?)
> > >
> > > I usually find if something looks good in IE AND
> Firefox, Opera doesn't
> > have
> > > any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually
> CSS related, but
> > rendering
> > > wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)
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Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Vladimir Harman
=O, yes...there is this magic 'anonymous tab' I can open  wow :)


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Peter Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Peter Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:23 PM
> 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > And when your plugins crash...
> >
> http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG
> 
> I love it!
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Re: [backstage] zambians in mourning

2008-09-02 Thread Sam Mbale
THERE WILL BE A REQUIM MASS FOR THE LATE DR. LEVY PATRICK MWANAWASA, SC,
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF ZAMBIA ON SEPTEMBER 3, 2008. THE CHURCH SERVICE
WILL BE CONDUCTED AT THE WESTMINSTER ABBEY, LONDON, SW1P 3PA AT 17:00 HOURS.


Thanks


Re: [backstage] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sean DALY
>> if the google browser goes linux

http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux



On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Vladimir Harman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I control security and cookies in google browser...i mean the 
> security and protection set up? also, if the google browser goes linux, will 
> it be open source code?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Chris Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> From: Chris Riley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
>> To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
>> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:11 PM
>> The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in
>> Gmail, in Chrome!First
>> impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very
>> quick indeed.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> 2008/9/2 Sean DALY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> > http://www.google.com/chrome
>> >
>> > The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer
>> back to the
>> > homepage...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >> Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you
>> already count Safari
>> > >> as one of your three (*) existing major
>> browsers, you should
>> > >> be fine as far as HTML rendering is
>> concerned.
>> > >
>> > > Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't
>> inspire a great deal of confidence
>> > > though :/
>> > >
>> > >> (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are
>> you not developing for?)
>> > >
>> > > I usually find if something looks good in IE AND
>> Firefox, Opera doesn't
>> > have
>> > > any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually
>> CSS related, but
>> > rendering
>> > > wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :)
>> > >
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RE: [backstage] zambians in mourning

2008-09-02 Thread Christopher Woods
I appreciate that this is a serious matter to many people, but is it really
relevant to the BBC Backstage mailing list or any of the usual topics
discussed on here? No. Please stay (at least vaguely) on-topic.
 
Unless the BBC is going to be doing some kind of twitter-liveblog mashup
from the service...
 
 
(Too soon?)


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Sent: 02 September 2008 23:13
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] zambians in mourning


THERE WILL BE A REQUIM MASS FOR THE LATE DR. LEVY PATRICK MWANAWASA, SC,
PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF ZAMBIA ON SEPTEMBER 3, 2008. THE CHURCH SERVICE
WILL BE CONDUCTED AT THE WESTMINSTER ABBEY, LONDON, SW1P 3PA AT 17:00 HOURS.


Thanks