Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
I thought that the BBC had set up a system via the Press Office for the distribution of BBC logos for this kind of use a few years ago? I got a similar letter when I started UK Free TV, but it was countermand by the Media Library. 2008/12/21 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com That was certainly news for us at backstage. I'm going to follow this up and hopefully have some better news soon. On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:50 +, Martin Deutsch wrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Andy Alcorn is a student whose hobby is computer programming. Three years ago he designed a desktop widget for Apple Macs which allowed users to tune in directly to the full range of BBC radio stations and have them on in the background as they worked, rather than having to search out individual web pages to do so. He estimates that the free software has been downloaded at least 200,000 times. At the peak of its popularity, around 65,000 people were using it to listen to the BBC. In October he was contacted by the BBC, which had tracked down his private mobile number and home address. Was it to thank him for the extra listeners he had pushed in the corporation's direction, or offering him a job on the technology staff? No. Instead the BBC Litigation Department informed him that while the BBC does not object to the reference of the BBC services ... you do not have the authority to use the BBC logo and as such the use of it amounts to infringement of the BBC's registered trade marks and of its copyright. Alcorn was ordered to remove the logo from the widget, where it appeared in a little box enabling people to knoiw what they were listening to, and provide signed written undertakings that you have undertaken this step and that you undertake not to repeat your actions in the future or face legal action. All BBC logos have now been replaced on the widget with the letters B, B and C, and licence fee-payers can now sleep easier in their beds. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- . Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
[backstage] Tee shirt
I wonder what happened to my free Backstage tee shirt? Best Mark - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer caching
2008/12/22 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net Andy wrote: When is the actual platform neutral iPlayer coming out? I was tempted to say something about this and Adobe's licencing strategy... But when we keep seeing token gestures, I get a bit frustrated. I guess what has happened is that someone in the BBC has taken the concept of platform neutrality and mistaken it for cross-platform support. It's an easy mistake to make, most management consultant types are interested in what works today rather than what is right. Let's just say, there are ways of making things happen that I suspect aren't being pursued as much as one would hope at the moment. Merry Christmas everyone! Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
[backstage] BBC Interactive Sport listings?
Hi, The BBC closed the http://www.bbc.co.uk/whatson/ service a while back. 99.9% of the content has moved to /programmes etc, but what has happened to the listings for BBC Interactive that used to be here? I can't find them anywhere now, but I have to assume that the BBC does have some form of schedule for Freeview 301 and 302 etc? Feliz Navidad -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
Are you thinking of http://www.bbcpictures.com/ From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 22 December 2008 08:45 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit? I thought that the BBC had set up a system via the Press Office for the distribution of BBC logos for this kind of use a few years ago? I got a similar letter when I started UK Free TV, but it was countermand by the Media Library. 2008/12/21 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com That was certainly news for us at backstage. I'm going to follow this up and hopefully have some better news soon. On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:50 +, Martin Deutsch wrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Andy Alcorn is a student whose hobby is computer programming. Three years ago he designed a desktop widget for Apple Macs which allowed users to tune in directly to the full range of BBC radio stations and have them on in the background as they worked, rather than having to search out individual web pages to do so. He estimates that the free software has been downloaded at least 200,000 times. At the peak of its popularity, around 65,000 people were using it to listen to the BBC. In October he was contacted by the BBC, which had tracked down his private mobile number and home address. Was it to thank him for the extra listeners he had pushed in the corporation's direction, or offering him a job on the technology staff? No. Instead the BBC Litigation Department informed him that while the BBC does not object to the reference of the BBC services ... you do not have the authority to use the BBC logo and as such the use of it amounts to infringement of the BBC's registered trade marks and of its copyright. Alcorn was ordered to remove the logo from the widget, where it appeared in a little box enabling people to knoiw what they were listening to, and provide signed written undertakings that you have undertaken this step and that you undertake not to repeat your actions in the future or face legal action. All BBC logos have now been replaced on the widget with the letters B, B and C, and licence fee-payers can now sleep easier in their beds. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- . Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] BBC Interactive Sport listings?
There're listed on the Sport website http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/5345480.stm There is a full internal schedule for 301/302 - and indeed the BBC's interactive video streams on Sky, Virgin and Freesat. Publishing it is something that is being investigated. From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 22 December 2008 09:30 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC Interactive Sport listings? Hi, The BBC closed the http://www.bbc.co.uk/whatson/ service a while back. 99.9% of the content has moved to /programmes etc, but what has happened to the listings for BBC Interactive that used to be here? I can't find them anywhere now, but I have to assume that the BBC does have some form of schedule for Freeview 301 and 302 etc? Feliz Navidad -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Tee shirt
Morning Mark Heh, I have a Backstage t-shirt for you, but I just need your size. If you drop me a line off-list with your requirements I will send you one when I'm back in the office on January 5th :-D Best wishes and Happy Winterval Rain Rain Ashford | Technologist | http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Mark Griffin westp...@mac.com wrote: From: Mark Griffin westp...@mac.com Subject: [backstage] Tee shirt To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 8:53 AM I wonder what happened to my free Backstage tee shirt? Best Mark - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
Andrew, I'm not sure, it used to be a facility from the BBC Press Office site. It didn't get updated much but it did have huge hi-res versions of all the channel logos and BBC logo as bitmaps. BBCPictures seems to exclude all the people who would usually use a Press Office site, like non-UK press media; fan sites; advertising, marketing, PR, design and press news agencies; city and county councils; freelance journalists, picture editors and photographers; educational institutions; photographic studios and independent television and radio production companies Not sure who's left from that in fact 2008/12/22 Andrew Bowden andrew.bow...@bbc.co.uk Are you thinking of http://www.bbcpictures.com/ -- *From:* owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 22 December 2008 08:45 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit? I thought that the BBC had set up a system via the Press Office for the distribution of BBC logos for this kind of use a few years ago? I got a similar letter when I started UK Free TV, but it was countermand by the Media Library. 2008/12/21 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com That was certainly news for us at backstage. I'm going to follow this up and hopefully have some better news soon. On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 14:50 +, Martin Deutsch wrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Andy Alcorn is a student whose hobby is computer programming. Three years ago he designed a desktop widget for Apple Macs which allowed users to tune in directly to the full range of BBC radio stations and have them on in the background as they worked, rather than having to search out individual web pages to do so. He estimates that the free software has been downloaded at least 200,000 times. At the peak of its popularity, around 65,000 people were using it to listen to the BBC. In October he was contacted by the BBC, which had tracked down his private mobile number and home address. Was it to thank him for the extra listeners he had pushed in the corporation's direction, or offering him a job on the technology staff? No. Instead the BBC Litigation Department informed him that while the BBC does not object to the reference of the BBC services ... you do not have the authority to use the BBC logo and as such the use of it amounts to infringement of the BBC's registered trade marks and of its copyright. Alcorn was ordered to remove the logo from the widget, where it appeared in a little box enabling people to knoiw what they were listening to, and provide signed written undertakings that you have undertaken this step and that you undertake not to repeat your actions in the future or face legal action. All BBC logos have now been replaced on the widget with the letters B, B and C, and licence fee-payers can now sleep easier in their beds. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- . Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Martin Deutsch martin.deut...@gmail.comwrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Being fair... use of the logo means official. No use of the logo means unofficial. That's what the Backstage licence basically says. Do a quick iTunes search for BBCReader - that app really concerns me, since it's rubbish and people think it's the BBC's. -- http://james.cridland.net/ | http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
I'm a consumer of BBC content in it's various forms. It is an institution am proud to be related to since kindergarten. The BBC logo is embedded in my subconcious.. I almost had a BBC tattoo but I settled for a Blue Peter badge and a T-shirt (hinting on a free t-shirt). On a serious note, the BBC is like a nanny, you never forget the lessons learnt and you always wear the nanny's name with pride. My point is that there has to be a middle way where the BBC allows it's fanboys or girls to wear the logo and still protect it's integrity as a supernanny. We do not want extremists to use the logo as they did with the British flag. My suggestion is a Powered by BBC logo. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:42 PM, James Cridland ja...@cridland.net wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Martin Deutsch martin.deut...@gmail.comwrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Being fair... use of the logo means official. No use of the logo means unofficial. That's what the Backstage licence basically says. Do a quick iTunes search for BBCReader - that app really concerns me, since it's rubbish and people think it's the BBC's. -- http://james.cridland.net/ | http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
The BBC reader app isn't rubbish, functionally speaking. It is aesthetically dubious though. However, it the people who created it are offering it for free and it functions well as an offline reader. If the BBC had enough dev effort on hand to create a New York Times or Bloomberg app, I'd agree with the concerns about branding infringement, but as it stands right now, our nice, open RSS feeds have just generated us a quite reasonable first generation BBC offiine reader for the iPhone. In a tenth of the time that and equivalent Nokia java app would gave taken to commission. 22 Dec 2008 tarihinde 17:42 saatinde James Cridland ja...@cridland.net şunları yazdı: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Martin Deutsch martin.deut...@gmail.com wrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Being fair... use of the logo means official. No use of the logo means unofficial. That's what the Backstage licence basically says. Do a quick iTunes search for BBCReader - that app really concerns me, since it's rubbish and people think it's the BBC's. -- http://james.cridland.net/ | http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/
[backstage] BBC iPlayer download on Linux and Mac using AIR
No one seems to have picked up on the launch of the iPlayer download AIR application for Windows, Linux, OSX. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/introducing_iplayer_deskto.html I wonder why? maybe I should save it for a personal blog post... Cheers Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
So one of the problems with the bbc reader, I've been told. Was that it never included a powered by backstage.bbc.co.uk. Please remember to include this attribution otherwise your prototype sits outside the backstage licence. Around the use of logos, is pretty much as James has said, although I disagree with him about it being rubbish. Its just not very pretty. On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 17:42 +, James Cridland wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Martin Deutsch martin.deut...@gmail.com wrote: Just spotted this in the newest Private Eye (dated 26th Dec)... Being fair... use of the logo means official. No use of the logo means unofficial. That's what the Backstage licence basically says. Do a quick iTunes search for BBCReader - that app really concerns me, since it's rubbish and people think it's the BBC's. -- http://james.cridland.net/ | http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer download on Linux and Mac using AIR
Mr I Forrester wrote: No one seems to have picked up on the launch of the iPlayer download AIR application for Windows, Linux, OSX. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/introducing_iplayer_deskto.html I wonder why? maybe I should save it for a personal blog post... We can't make it work /me ducks You clearly didn't read the iPlayer caching thread - such an obvious title too ;) I made an attempt at a subject change about 3 days ago. My experience: I went to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ Then I went to the Labs. It says You are signed up for BBC iPlayer Labs. Start using iPlayer labs features. I did find http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer/ (the linux clicky doesn't take me anywhere useful) After about 200 clicks I gave up on finding a download of any kind. Then it just plays online and has nothing helpful to say about working offline. I didn't find anything on the BBC to tell me what to do. Now I guess I need to go elsewhere for AIR and then it will magically work - but where? A quick post to the BBC Linux support system (aka Backstage) and I went here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/bbc_iplayer_desktop (Thanks Alan!) But despite having flash 10.0.12 it doesn't offer AIR and this page: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR_for_Linux:Release_Notes tells me that my version of Linux (Debian, you may have heard of it) isn't supported. Ah well. Back to MythTV... and at least I can watch Strictly again with that. Merry Xmas all David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). ideas is based on the Ubuntu idea torrent project and we're happy to be supporting more free and open software projects. And I'm even happier to announce the submit your own ideas section is now up and running for you all to throw ideas at. So go over to http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com, signup and submit a idea or two The ideas can be pretty much anything from why doesn't the BBC Recipe section not have a RSS and a API to large scale changes like enabling BitTorrent support with the next version of iPlayer. Feel free to go into as much detail as you like but keep the titles clear and readable. This will hopefully insure when we show them to people higher up the chain they will actually read them. Its also ok to resubmit ideas which have come up before and were not resolved in the way you felt they should have been. I'm hoping ideas.welcomebackstage's structured approach to ideas will help with getting official answers and proper sign off in the future. Cheers, comments and questions to us Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] not quite in the Backstage spirit?
Sam Mbale wrote: I'm a consumer of BBC content in it's various forms. It is an institution am proud to be related to since kindergarten. The BBC logo is embedded in my subconcious.. I almost had a BBC tattoo but I settled for a Blue Peter badge and a T-shirt (hinting on a free t-shirt). On a serious note, the BBC is like a nanny, you never forget the lessons learnt and you always wear the nanny's name with pride. My point is that there has to be a middle way where the BBC allows it's fanboys or girls to wear the logo and still protect it's integrity as a supernanny. We do not want extremists to use the logo as they did with the British flag. My suggestion is a Powered by BBC logo. Same problem... sounds like the BBC power it. How about Friend of the BBC type logo? Standard recognisable BBC logo with a 'friend' flash of some description... Clearly suggests an association and not a responsibility. David -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
Ian All I want for xmas is a BBC logo. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.comwrote: Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). ideas is based on the Ubuntu idea torrent project and we're happy to be supporting more free and open software projects. And I'm even happier to announce the submit your own ideas section is now up and running for you all to throw ideas at. So go over to http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com, signup and submit a idea or two The ideas can be pretty much anything from why doesn't the BBC Recipe section not have a RSS and a API to large scale changes like enabling BitTorrent support with the next version of iPlayer. Feel free to go into as much detail as you like but keep the titles clear and readable. This will hopefully insure when we show them to people higher up the chain they will actually read them. Its also ok to resubmit ideas which have come up before and were not resolved in the way you felt they should have been. I'm hoping ideas.welcomebackstage's structured approach to ideas will help with getting official answers and proper sign off in the future. Cheers, comments and questions to us Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
Another wish,if you may allow me. Bring back Top of the Pops. Happy holidays Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Sam Mbale smb...@mpelembe.net wrote: Ian All I want for xmas is a BBC logo. Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.comwrote: Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). ideas is based on the Ubuntu idea torrent project and we're happy to be supporting more free and open software projects. And I'm even happier to announce the submit your own ideas section is now up and running for you all to throw ideas at. So go over to http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com, signup and submit a idea or two The ideas can be pretty much anything from why doesn't the BBC Recipe section not have a RSS and a API to large scale changes like enabling BitTorrent support with the next version of iPlayer. Feel free to go into as much detail as you like but keep the titles clear and readable. This will hopefully insure when we show them to people higher up the chain they will actually read them. Its also ok to resubmit ideas which have come up before and were not resolved in the way you felt they should have been. I'm hoping ideas.welcomebackstage's structured approach to ideas will help with getting official answers and proper sign off in the future. Cheers, comments and questions to us Ian - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
2008/12/22 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). You might want to remove the ubuntu logos from posts such as this one:- http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/ideatorrent/idea/7/ Specifically this logo:- http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/modules/ideatorrent/themes/brownie/images/minilogo.png And maybe replace them with.. oh uhm.. BBC logos? :) Cheers, Al. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed
Sure will do, but you all know its Durpal and Idea torrent software running on a beta server. I'm more concerned with what this software could enable rather that how it looks at this moment. Do keep reporting any bugs however. On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 23:51 +, Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/22 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Ok so a little while back we kind of launched or announced that we were building out some of the core parts of the backstage site into ideas.welcomebackstage.com (please note the url will change one day soon). You might want to remove the ubuntu logos from posts such as this one:- http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/ideatorrent/idea/7/ Specifically this logo:- http://ideas.welcomebackstage.com/modules/ideatorrent/themes/brownie/images/minilogo.png And maybe replace them with.. oh uhm.. BBC logos? :) Cheers, Al. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer download on Linux and Mac using AIR
Sorry my mistake, I started on the Caching thread and have not caught up with it :x Ian On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 21:57 +, David Greaves wrote: Mr I Forrester wrote: No one seems to have picked up on the launch of the iPlayer download AIR application for Windows, Linux, OSX. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/12/introducing_iplayer_deskto.html I wonder why? maybe I should save it for a personal blog post... We can't make it work /me ducks You clearly didn't read the iPlayer caching thread - such an obvious title too ;) I made an attempt at a subject change about 3 days ago. My experience: I went to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ Then I went to the Labs. It says You are signed up for BBC iPlayer Labs. Start using iPlayer labs features. I did find http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer/ (the linux clicky doesn't take me anywhere useful) After about 200 clicks I gave up on finding a download of any kind. Then it just plays online and has nothing helpful to say about working offline. I didn't find anything on the BBC to tell me what to do. Now I guess I need to go elsewhere for AIR and then it will magically work - but where? A quick post to the BBC Linux support system (aka Backstage) and I went here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/install/bbc_iplayer_desktop (Thanks Alan!) But despite having flash 10.0.12 it doesn't offer AIR and this page: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR_for_Linux:Release_Notes tells me that my version of Linux (Debian, you may have heard of it) isn't supported. Ah well. Back to MythTV... and at least I can watch Strictly again with that. Merry Xmas all David - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
