Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2009-01-05 Thread Michael
On Monday 05 January 2009 11:26:25 Jamie Tetlow wrote:
 Getting down to the nitty-gritty of our internal data structure we'd
 probably say that the International World Service 'Top of the Pops' and the
 BBC One 'Top of the Pops'

Which of course the audience simply do not, and should not have to, care 
about, ever. 


Michael.
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Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2009-01-05 Thread Jamie Tetlow
Getting down to the nitty-gritty of our internal data structure we'd
probably say that the International World Service 'Top of the Pops' and the
BBC One 'Top of the Pops' http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg ARE
different programme 'brands' but belonging to the uber 'franchise' of 'Top
of the Pops'... although we don't have 'franchise' in our data structure
yet.

It would be the same for the 'franchise' Doctor Who and it's various
incarnations:

BBC One's 'Doctor Who': http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0
Radio 7's 'Doctor Who': http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009szrh
BBC Three's 'Doctor Who Confidential':
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2xb
etc, etc...

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On 5/1/09 10:47, Gareth Davis gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk wrote:
 
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 [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of James  Cridland
 Sent: 31 December 2008 22:15
 To:  backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are  now finally welcomed
 
 On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Gareth Davis gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk
 wrote:
  
 It still still being made,  just not for the tellybox :)
  
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml
  
 So, why doesn't it appear in
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg/upcoming
  
 Surely it should - it's the same brand (owned by BBC ONE, but you still
 broadcast a radio version)
 
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 Technical answer is: We have quite a few English programmes that are not
 broadcast on the World Service English for UK network, and as all
 international networks are currently out of scope for /programmes, they do not
 appear in /programmes or iPlayer.
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[backstage] Travel feed data....

2009-01-05 Thread Mike Moody
I'm wondering if one of you good fellows can help me?

I am in the process of writing a vista gadget (similar to the ones produced by 
the daily snooze) that consumes the BBC travel feeds. The idea is to provide a 
gadget that can display the latest travel information for a specified area.

The development is done (for the most part) but I'm having some specific 
problems with the data within the XML feeds:

For Road traffic messages... 
The only way I can see to tell if a road incident has been cleared is if the 
version_number attribute on the road_traffic_message node is set to 255. This 
seems very arbitrary and I'm not sure if it always works...

For other (public transport) messages...
Each item has a transport_mode node (with an attribute of the same name) on the 
root public_transport_information node. I assumed that 
this transport_mode sub-node described the type of transport mode for the 
item however it is always railway service (entity reference: 
pti1_1) regardless of whether the node describes air, ferry or railway 
information.

Any help / clarification on these would be most helpful.

Mike



  

RE: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2009-01-05 Thread Gareth Davis
 




From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk
[mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of James Cridland
Sent: 31 December 2008 22:15
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Gareth Davis
gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk wrote:


It still still being made, just not for the tellybox :) 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/programmes/top_of_the_pops.shtml


So, why doesn't it appear in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00704hg/upcoming

Surely it should - it's the same brand (owned by BBC ONE, but
you still broadcast a radio version)

-- 
http://james.cridland.net/ |
http://notatallbad.ltd.uk/legal_info/


Technical answer is: We have quite a few English programmes that are not
broadcast on the World Service English for UK network, and as all
international networks are currently out of scope for /programmes, they
do not appear in /programmes or iPlayer.  
-- 
Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist
World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global
News Division
* http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ http://www.bbcworldservice.com/  *
702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH
* 02 71285 (internal) * +44 (0)20 7557 1285 (external) *
gareth.da...@bbc.co.uk

 


Re: [backstage] Your ideas are now finally welcomed

2009-01-05 Thread Jamie Tetlow
well exactly, if you don't want to care about it, but equally you may only
be interested in the World Service TOTP and so making sure we get the
modelling and structure right (and then expose it nicely - which I guess is
the main point here ;-) means you'll be able to slice and dice our
programming whichever way you want,

Jamie.

On 5/1/09 14:44, Michael m...@cerenity.org wrote:

 On Monday 05 January 2009 11:26:25 Jamie Tetlow wrote:
 Getting down to the nitty-gritty of our internal data structure we'd
 probably say that the International World Service 'Top of the Pops' and the
 BBC One 'Top of the Pops'
 
 Which of course the audience simply do not, and should not have to, care
 about, ever. 
 
 
 Michael.
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