[backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Forrester
Hi All,

I was at Social Media Café Manchester yesterday and there was a session about 
Wave. I and Paul Robertson stated the fact that the wave people are there 
seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut implementation of what's 
possible with the wave protocol.

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=ands=wavephrase=ors=nots=tag=smc_mcrlang=allfrom=to=ref=near=within=15units=misince=2009-11-30until=2009-12-02rpp=15


So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - 
http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx,
 I'm wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers?

What do others think?

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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

2009-12-02 Thread Dave Crossland
2009/12/2 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk:


 seeing isn't wave at all. Its simply a rough cut
 implementation of what's possible with the wave protocol.

Right; the protocol seems sound enough, and I expect that (like
Novell) it will get picked up by projects that would have had to have
done the engineering on such a protocol themselves.

But there are relatively few of those projects, and so I don't expect
it will be soon that we see anything 'wow'-worth out of Wave. I think
it will get subsumed by projects that use it and we will know those by
their own names and indeed may come to know Wave itself by those
names; like people who use the web and that the web _is_ the
internet...

 wondered if Google had put out wave too early for consumers?

As Scot said, its hardly had a consumer release. Anyone who is
involved in projects that might make use of such technology have heard
about it, understand it, and probably by now have a beta account.
What's the fuss? :-)
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Re: [backstage] Google Wave - Too early for consumers

2009-12-02 Thread Stephen Jolly

On 2 Dec 2009, at 13:15, Ian Forrester wrote:
 So during the rest of the discussion and reading this - 
 http://orchard.co.uk/Blog/Google-Wave-much-maligned-but-missunderstood-128.aspx,
  I'm wondered if Google had putout wave too early for consumers?

I can't say I agree with Andy Chesters - Google announced the open source, open 
standard nature of Wave right back when the project itself was made public at 
Google I/O 2009:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/went-walkabout-brought-back-google-wave.html

No desire to to hide the fact that the technology is not exclusive to Google 
that I can see.

I'm also not convinced that the performance issues with the Wave beta are 
mainly (or even slightly) due to the fact that all the current Wave servers are 
running in Google's data centres.  Surely the spread of Wave servers to the far 
corners of the Internet will make things worse, as bandwidths fall and latency 
rises between the servers participating in a given Wave?  Waves with 
participants who all use the same server might see a performance increase I 
guess, all other things being equal.

S


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