AW: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like
Also very interested! @Matt... and thanks for the links! All the best, sebnem Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sebnem Öztunali Siemens AG Corporate Technology Intelligent Autonomous Systems CT IC 6 Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 81739 München Tel.: +49 (89) 636-44127 Fax: +49 (89) 636-41423 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; Vorstand: Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, Joe Kaeser, Jim Reid-Anderson, Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und München; Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684; WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Christopher Woods Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Juli 2008 18:30 An: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Betreff: RE: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like Based on stats - I don't have an off the shelf study to hand that I can release, but as indicated elsewhere, it is true that the number of downloads versus streams is influenced on a day to day basis depending on the type of content available. If there is interest in more stats then let me know. Cheers, jod Very interested - if there are any stats available you can point me to, I'd be fascinated to peruse them.
AW: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Crossland Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Juli 2008 20:20 An: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Betreff: Re: [backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like 2008/7/18 Oeztunali, Sebnem (CT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...It will also let users buy a TV show or movie without actually downloading the video file to the PC's hard drive... This statement is either misguided or lying. :-) Whilst streaming, *the movie* is not downloaded (else it wouldn't be worthwile to make a differentiation, right?) Only chunks of the file are buffered (small pieces, thrown away once played back = buffering). I believe this is the single viable option, and is true to the antything-anytime-anywhere-goes potential of the Internet What about the the antything-anytime-anywhere-goes potential of portable computers not connected to the Internet 100% of the time? Not connected?!?!??! ...well you have a point there, like you want to download a movie because you know tomorrow you'll be stuck in a train for 6 hrs. But in my opinion this is not Internet TV - and still you have to ask yourself how long is it going to take until you have access in that train (or anywhere else for that matter)... If you think about how much the up/download consumption increased since youtube, it would be insane by an ISP to say I don't throttle that specific type of traffic, there will always be one other to deliver. ( ...and please don't buy into that sry, the Internet is currently full :D ) and let's you forget about vendor lock-in due to DRM. This used to be true but sadly isn't any more - Adobe Flash based video streaming includes actual DRM. But still flash runs in every browser, hence every device capable of Internet-connectivity (has a browser) is able to receive that stream. Also, streaming is often (mistakenly) perceived as a form of DRM. If the thing is accessible for everyone, no one has an interest in stealing it, hence DRM is useless. Accessible could also mean, for appropriately little money or an appropriate flat rate... (P2P-)Downloading is yesterday's beer. ... I am specualting that Amazon's streaming makes use of P2P technology ;-) As said before there is a distinguishable difference between streaming and downloading, hence even if P2P downloading is old, P2P streaming is quite the sizzle... Still I agree that the general question donwloading vs. streaming is now more interesting, the tech comes in handy later. All the best, Sebnem - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Internet TV without streaming is like
Having to go fishing for your fish chips (ok, I'm not very good with metaphors - big deal ;) Anyway, Amazon's streaming now, too: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/17/technology/17amazon.html?_r=1scp=2sq=amazonst=cseoref=slogin ...It will also let users buy a TV show or movie without actually downloading the video file to the PC's hard drive... I believe this is the single viable option, and is true to the antything-anytime-anywhere-goes potential of the Internet and let's you forget about vendor lock-in due to DRM. (P2P-)Downloading is yesterday's beer. How long does it take to get a show with iPlayer? Are there any numbers comparing the flash version and the iPlayer client usage? All the best, Sebnem P.S. for the P2P-at-heart among you: I am specualting that Amazon's streaming makes use of P2P technology (as well as their EC2 and S3: http://www.allthingsdistributed.com/2007/10/amazons_dynamo.html ) Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sebnem Öztunali Siemens AG Corporate Technology Intelligent Autonomous Systems CT IC 6 Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 81739 München Tel.: +49 (89) 636-44127 Fax: +49 (89) 636-41423 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; Vorstand: Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, Joe Kaeser, Jim Reid-Anderson, Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und München; Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684; WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
