Re: [backstage] Google Chrome OS
Ian, I have been expecting something like this for a while, but I actually expected it out of China or India, to be honest. Windows 7 is bloody fantastic, IMHO, but the legacy issue is something that is a great boon to corporate customers who have stuck with Microsoft over the decades. If you have something obsucre, but vital, written for DOS or any version of Windows, it will probably still work, after a fashion. And this is true for hardware. If your video is VGA, AGP, PCI, PCI/e, it will work with Windows. Any architecture, and system, Windows will still work. A new OS doesn't have to do that. If you target the Netbook market, you need a USB driver and lots of generic USB device drivers, and that it. No serial ports, no parallel ports, legacy MIDI systems etc etc With just a single video driver, a unified sound system, USB networking drivers (Ethernet and wifi) you can support a whole class of machines. Then, just fire up the browser.If you need a file manager, do it in the browser. And finally, Gears deals with your offline needs. Give a member of the public a machine that you press the on button and then wait one, two seconds and you are online. I can see the advantage of that. Even Windows 7 will be just starting it's animation, and Chome OS will be on your homepage. Such machines would be great for corporations too - a proper thin client. 2009/7/8 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html Ok so what do people think? For me Google is certainly on a home run at the moment, Wave anyone? From reading the link above, it seems like it will be something like I saw at Minibar a while back but can't find now. So a boot straight into a browser using a small Linux kernel. I was hoping it would be a X11 environment to compete with Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox, etc. But I do think Google's right. The web is the platform, just like how Palm created WebOS. HTML5 is going a large part of the change. Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: []secret; []private; [x]public Senior Producer, BBC Backstage, BBC RD Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)1612444063 | mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome OS
2009/7/8 Ian Forrester ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html From reading the link above, it seems like it will be something like I saw at Minibar a while back but can't find now ... I was hoping it would be a X11 environment to compete with Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyro_Desktop shows that you can make a desktop using the web canvas as the compositing engine; perhaps it will go that way. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome OS
Ian Forrester wrote: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html Ok so what do people think? For me Google is certainly on a home run at the moment, Wave anyone? From reading the link above, it seems like it will be something like I saw at Minibar a while back but can't find now. So a boot straight into a browser using a small Linux kernel. I was hoping it would be a X11 environment to compete with Gnome, KDE, Fluxbox, etc. If you want an X11/Linux environment for small form-factor mobile devices with a focus on touch-ability then have a look at Mer. http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer FWIW I'll be talking about it at the UKUUG : http://summer2009.ukuug.org/Talks -- Don't worry, you'll be fine; I saw it work in a cartoon once... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Well that's certainly better than it crashing the entire browser! Slightly impressed, less than 24 hours after Google Chrome is released there is a crash exploit for it! http://evilfingers.com/advisory/google_chrome_poc.php Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Backstagers going to the Google Developer day will be glad to hear that some of the engineers behind Chrome will be there. Of course me and Rain will be conducting video interviews like last year and asking the difficult questions. Last years videos, in case you missed them http://cubicgarden.blip.tv/file/249583/ http://cubicgarden.blip.tv/file/249597/ Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dogsbody Sent: 03 September 2008 09:15 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome Well that's certainly better than it crashing the entire browser! Slightly impressed, less than 24 hours after Google Chrome is released there is a crash exploit for it! http://evilfingers.com/advisory/google_chrome_poc.php Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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thanxs for the update On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Tyson Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I haven't seen the links yet, but don't they want to make something like Unity or the ATT browser? (But with an InPrivate-esque feature). Tyson On 9/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to have just been posted: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html Best wishes, Dominic. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Fight Internet Censorship! http://www.eff.org ~ Open-Source Community, and Technology Testbed: http://www.house404.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net
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I see this is for Windows users only. I for one want to register my outrage etc etc. ;-) 2008/9/2 Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanxs for the update On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Tyson Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I haven't seen the links yet, but don't they want to make something like Unity or the ATT browser? (But with an InPrivate-esque feature). Tyson On 9/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to have just been posted: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html Best wishes, Dominic. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Fight Internet Censorship! http://www.eff.org ~ Open-Source Community, and Technology Testbed: http://www.house404.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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2008/9/2 Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see this is for Windows users only. I for one want to register my outrage etc etc. If they are making GTK work properly on Mac OS X and Windows, I don't mind the wait. Cheers, Dave Personal opinion only. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Google Chrome
If they are making GTK work properly on Mac OS X and Windows, I don't mind the wait. I heard about this again on Radio 4 whilst in the car earlier... While I already knew about it, it suddenly made me realise - it's yet another browser and DOM to code for. Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web standards. Someone think of the developers! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
On Tue Sep 2 15:51:38 2008, Christopher Woods wrote: Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web standards. Someone think of the developers! You never know, Chrome might be standards compliant… -- Fred O. Phillips http://fophillips.org BBC7 7572 755F 83E0 3209 504A E4F7 874F 1545 9D41 pgp3vK7sAZemd.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [backstage] Google Chrome
On Tue Sep 2 15:51:38 2008, Christopher Woods wrote: Great, that makes four major browsers, each with their own 'take' on web standards. Someone think of the developers! You never know, Chrome might be standards compliant. Oh god no, that means we'll have to do fully standards compliant pages and then code for the other three! I will be scouring Google's pages like a hawk for incorrect rendering as soon as I install Chrome. I also foresee a burgeoning macromarket in drop-in PHP classes which autodetect the browser and beautify/uglify the code based on whether it's Chrome or not :D - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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http://www.google.com/chrome The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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They have also placed the link on their main homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/chrome The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do.
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The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome!First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed. Chris 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.google.com/chrome The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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2008/9/2 Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome! First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed. Agreed - very speedy. -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk
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I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve. However.. I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C: drive is only 2GB! Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either.. It's a bit of a fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen. Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks.. it installs the IE version and fires up IE. Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word Google! 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve. However.. I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C: drive is only 2GB! Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either.. It's a bit of a fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen. Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks.. it installs the IE version and fires up IE. Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word Google! 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve. However.. I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C: drive is only 2GB! Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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Brian Butterworth wrote: And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG Well that's certainly better than it crashing the entire browser! Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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A lot of it is sensible but we're just not used to it. Of course a new tab should open next to the tab you opened it from, but it doesn't work like that in Firefox, so of course I'm looking at the far right of my screen.. 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either.. It's a bit of a fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen. Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks.. it installs the IE version and fires up IE. Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word Google! 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve. However.. I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C: drive is only 2GB! Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Gary Kirk
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG I love it! -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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So far this is working like a rocket. Hasn't crashed yet, no major disasters with the renderer and I keep finding lots of nice little touches like the in-page search and how you can drag textareas to make them bigger. I'm sure there are many more. I don't think I'll be uninstalling firefox anytime soon, but its an impressive start. Not sure about the logo though - it's either too much like the Windows media player logo - or that Simon game. The 'help' page option on the settings menu takes me to a 404 :-| Martyn Green Web Content Developer Science Online AAAS/Science 1200 New York Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20005 Tel: 202-326-6525 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.aaas.org www.sciencemag.org Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/2/2008 5:13:47 PM And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] There's no F11 to take you into full-screen mode either.. It's a bit of a fiddle getting the iPlayer content to fit on my screen. Tried to install the Google toolbar to get my Google bookmarks.. it installs the IE version and fires up IE. Also, built in spell-check doesn't know the word Google! 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm really impressed with what they are trying to achieve. However.. I would like to choose where I install my applications, my C: drive is only 2GB! Still, it is very fast on my Eee PC 2008/9/2 Gary Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not impressed that (for me at least) Chrome appears to have removed by bookmarks, favourites, history, etc from Firefox and instead of importing it has apparently just deleted it. Anyone else have this? 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.chromium.org/2008/09/welcome-to-chromium_02.html In this first blog post Ben Goodger mentions that the code is released under a BSD-style licence. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Graeme Mulvaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty spiffy - very fast compared to IE7 on Vista. I like the way you can tear-off tabs and re-attach them to a different Chrome window - 'in-tab' pop-ups are a nice feature - It seems fairly stable - even with over 100 tabs active it's still pretty nippy. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's here people: http://www.google.com/chrome now works! Haven't downloaded it as I am using Linux, but I have signed up for email alerts so should be one of the first to know when they get the Linux version working. The Google code URL doesn't appear to be working yet though. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk -- . Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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How can I control security and cookies in google browser...i mean the security and protection set up? also, if the google browser goes linux, will it be open source code? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:11 PM The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome!First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed. Chris 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.google.com/chrome The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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=O, yes...there is this magic 'anonymous tab' I can open wow :) --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:23 PM 2008/9/2 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And when your plugins crash... http://www.ukfree.tv/styles/images/misc/crashed_plugin.JPG I love it! -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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if the google browser goes linux http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Vladimir Harman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I control security and cookies in google browser...i mean the security and protection set up? also, if the google browser goes linux, will it be open source code? --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Chris Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [backstage] Google Chrome To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:11 PM The link is working fine, I've just read your mail in Gmail, in Chrome!First impressions are that the new JavaScript engine V8 is very quick indeed. Chris 2008/9/2 Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.google.com/chrome The URL is live, but the download link seems to refer back to the homepage... On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chrome is using Webkit, so assuming you already count Safari as one of your three (*) existing major browsers, you should be fine as far as HTML rendering is concerned. Ooo, didn't know that. That doesn't inspire a great deal of confidence though :/ (* IE6+/Firefox/Safari/Opera - which one are you not developing for?) I usually find if something looks good in IE AND Firefox, Opera doesn't have any problems... Well, maybe minor ones, usually CSS related, but rendering wise I think it behaves particularly nicely. :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Google Chrome
Not seen anyone post about this yet: (Google Browser) http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html Unknown if it's real at the moment, but getting Scott McCloud to do a 38 page comic describing things in detail etc, does make me think the contents are plausible. (certainly his style of cartoons/drawing) The use of a comic to introduce the features reminds me of the cartoon guide to computer science (by Larry Gonick). Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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2008/9/1 Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html Unknown if it's real at the moment, but getting Scott McCloud to do a 38 page comic describing things in detail etc, does make me think the contents are plausible. (certainly his style of cartoons/drawing) Chrome has a privacy mode; Google says you can create an incognito window and nothing that occurs in that window is ever logged on your computer. Will the privacy mode mean nothing that occurs in that window is ever logged by Google? *chortle* -- Regards, Dave Personal opinion only. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Google starting from scratch with its own browser, Chrome Posted by Rafe Needleman http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not seen anyone post about this yet: (Google Browser) http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html Unknown if it's real at the moment, but getting Scott McCloud to do a 38 page comic describing things in detail etc, does make me think the contents are plausible. (certainly his style of cartoons/drawing) The use of a comic to introduce the features reminds me of the cartoon guide to computer science (by Larry Gonick). Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Typed http://www.google.com/chromeand I got *Not Found**Error 404 * Am I missing something? On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google starting from scratch with its own browser, Chrome Posted by Rafe Needleman http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not seen anyone post about this yet: (Google Browser) http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html Unknown if it's real at the moment, but getting Scott McCloud to do a 38 page comic describing things in detail etc, does make me think the contents are plausible. (certainly his style of cartoons/drawing) The use of a comic to introduce the features reminds me of the cartoon guide to computer science (by Larry Gonick). Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
Sam Mbale wrote: Typed http://www.google.com/chrome and I got /Not Found/ /Error 404/ Am I missing something? Well, in itself that is interesting, as it's not Google's normal 404 page, which is e.g. http://www.google.com/chromed - so that implies there is *something* special about that URL... ATB, Matthew http://www.dracos.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Compare that link with http://www.google.com/chrome1 It seems as though they're going to put somthing there. Also see the last line of the slashdot story: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/01/162224 *While Google provided the URL www.google.com/chrome there's nothing up there yet.* 2008/9/1 Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Typed http://www.google.com/chromeand I got *Not Found* *Error 404 * Am I missing something? On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Sean DALY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Google starting from scratch with its own browser, Chrome Posted by Rafe Needleman http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10029914-2.html On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not seen anyone post about this yet: (Google Browser) http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html Unknown if it's real at the moment, but getting Scott McCloud to do a 38 page comic describing things in detail etc, does make me think the contents are plausible. (certainly his style of cartoons/drawing) The use of a comic to introduce the features reminds me of the cartoon guide to computer science (by Larry Gonick). Michael. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
This seems to have just been posted: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html Best wishes, Dominic. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Chrome
Hmm, I haven't seen the links yet, but don't they want to make something like Unity or the ATT browser? (But with an InPrivate-esque feature). Tyson On 9/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to have just been posted: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/fresh-take-on-browser.html Best wishes, Dominic. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Fight Internet Censorship! http://www.eff.org ~ Open-Source Community, and Technology Testbed: http://www.house404.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
