Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Cross
Ian Forrester wrote:
 Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
 currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez
 it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing
 for the desktop.
 
 Interesting piece about ping.fm -
 http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/

The thing that bothers me about ping.fm (and the reason that I won't use
it) is that it encourages you to give your username and password for all
of the supported services to a third party.

I'll only start using it once the services that I'm interested in are
all suing OAuth.

Dave...
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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-28 Thread Alun Rowe


To me updating so many services at once feels a bit spammy.  I often  
finding myself cursing when pownce, facebook, Twitter etc all tell me  
the same thing by the same person at the same time...


On 28 Oct 2008, at 06:36, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ian Forrester wrote:

Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez
it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing
for the desktop.

Interesting piece about ping.fm -
http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/


The thing that bothers me about ping.fm (and the reason that I won't  
use
it) is that it encourages you to give your username and password for  
all

of the supported services to a third party.

I'll only start using it once the services that I'm interested in are
all suing OAuth.

Dave...
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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-28 Thread Sam Mbale
Alun has a good point, anyone here remembers the good ole days of the free
for all links ? (see
http://mpelembe.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/12/19/3925166.html )
 In my experience, different social networks attract different types of
people. My friends on hi5 are totally different to those on Myspace and
Facebook. My followers on twitter do not share my interests on Digg. For
this reason I make an effort to address friends in the appropriate context
rather than blast off the same post to everyone.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Alun Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 To me updating so many services at once feels a bit spammy.  I often
 finding myself cursing when pownce, facebook, Twitter etc all tell me the
 same thing by the same person at the same time...


 On 28 Oct 2008, at 06:36, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ian Forrester wrote:

 Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
 currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez
 it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing
 for the desktop.

 Interesting piece about ping.fm -

 http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/


 The thing that bothers me about ping.fm (and the reason that I won't use
 it) is that it encourages you to give your username and password for all
 of the supported services to a third party.

 I'll only start using it once the services that I'm interested in are
 all suing OAuth.

 Dave...
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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-28 Thread Alun Rowe
 
Groups on Twitter/Pownce/Ping etc would be the killer feature for me!


On 28/10/2008 12:17, Chris Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 so it seems to me that Ping.fm is a pretty useful thing, but just needs a fair
 bit more subtlety? i.e. different distribution lists? or is that already
 available?
 
 
 --cs
 
 
 
 
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sam Mbale
 Sent: Tue 10/28/2008 10:50 AM
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] ping.fm
 
 Alun has a good point, anyone here remembers the good ole days of the free
 for all links ? (see
 http://mpelembe.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/12/19/3925166.html )
  In my experience, different social networks attract different types of
 people. My friends on hi5 are totally different to those on Myspace and
 Facebook. My followers on twitter do not share my interests on Digg. For
 this reason I make an effort to address friends in the appropriate context
 rather than blast off the same post to everyone.
 
 On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Alun Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
 
  To me updating so many services at once feels a bit spammy.  I often
  finding myself cursing when pownce, facebook, Twitter etc all tell me the
  same thing by the same person at the same time...
 
 
  On 28 Oct 2008, at 06:36, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Ian Forrester wrote:
 
  Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
  currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez
  it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing
  for the desktop.
 
  Interesting piece about ping.fm -
 
  
 
http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/
 
 
  The thing that bothers me about ping.fm (and the reason that I won't use
  it) is that it encourages you to give your username and password for all
  of the supported services to a third party.
 
  I'll only start using it once the services that I'm interested in are
  all suing OAuth.
 
  Dave...
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RE: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-28 Thread Ian Forrester
Doesn't Jaiku and Indenti.ca/Laconi.ca have groups?
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alun Rowe
Sent: 28 October 2008 10:50
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] ping.fm


 

Groups on Twitter/Pownce/Ping etc would be the killer feature for me!


On 28/10/2008 12:17, Chris Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



so it seems to me that Ping.fm is a pretty useful thing, but just needs 
a fair bit more subtlety? i.e. different distribution lists? or is that already 
available?


--cs








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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sam Mbale
Sent: Tue 10/28/2008 10:50 AM
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] ping.fm

Alun has a good point, anyone here remembers the good ole days of the 
free
for all links ? (see
http://mpelembe.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/12/19/3925166.html )
 In my experience, different social networks attract different types of
people. My friends on hi5 are totally different to those on Myspace and
Facebook. My followers on twitter do not share my interests on Digg. For
this reason I make an effort to address friends in the appropriate 
context
rather than blast off the same post to everyone.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Alun Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 To me updating so many services at once feels a bit spammy.  I often
 finding myself cursing when pownce, facebook, Twitter etc all tell me 
the
 same thing by the same person at the same time...


 On 28 Oct 2008, at 06:36, Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Ian Forrester wrote:

 Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
 currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez
 it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing
 for the desktop.

 Interesting piece about ping.fm -

 
http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/


 The thing that bothers me about ping.fm (and the reason that I won't 
use
 it) is that it encourages you to give your username and password for 
all
 of the supported services to a third party.

 I'll only start using it once the services that I'm interested in are
 all suing OAuth.

 Dave...
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RE: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-27 Thread Ian Forrester
Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm currently is 
my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez it would be bad news. 
Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing for the desktop.

Interesting piece about ping.fm - 
http://mashable.com/2008/09/02/pingfm-solving-the-problem-or-exacerbating-it/ 


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Subject: Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008/10/21 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sunday: added 23 social networks to my ping.fm account.
 Tuesday: http://ping.fm has disappeared!  Has it been credit crunched?
 Is it to return?  Or do I need to change 23 passwords?

They're having problems with GoDaddy. Definitely not dead.

http://tinyurl.com/5bdl3w

Follow @pingfm on twitter.

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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-27 Thread Stefan Richter

Hi Ian,
in your opinion, what would be a critical feature set for a ping.fm  
desktop app?
Obviously you'd need to be able to post updates to the ping.fm  
service, but what outside the core functionality would you like to see?


Regards,

Stefan



On 27 Oct 2008, at 16:29, Ian Forrester wrote:

Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm  
currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez  
it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing  
for the desktop.


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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-27 Thread Bruce James

IMHO Ping.fm is good, but not great.

Would be nice to see a bit of a preview of what a post looks like in  
various services.


Some of mine have been truncated by twitter and facebook and look  
odd.  And links sometimes come out all wrong for me, so tinyurl before  
submission?


B


On 27 Oct 2008, at 17:19, Stefan Richter wrote:


Hi Ian,
in your opinion, what would be a critical feature set for a ping.fm  
desktop app?
Obviously you'd need to be able to post updates to the ping.fm  
service, but what outside the core functionality would you like to  
see?


Regards,

Stefan



On 27 Oct 2008, at 16:29, Ian Forrester wrote:

Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm  
currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez  
it would be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type  
thing for the desktop.


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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-27 Thread Brian Butterworth
The most useful thing is being able to update so many networks at once
I  update Twitter, Facebook, Plurk, Pownce, MySpace, LinkedIn, Tumblr,
Identi.ca, Brightkite, endFeed, Blogger, Plaxo Pulse, LiveJournal, Bebo,
hi5, Mashable, kwippy, Xanga, rdPress.com, Rejaw, Friendster, Delicious,
Yahoo 360, Koornk, Diigo, YouAre, Multiply and
Flickr all at once.

The URLs get converted to ping.fm ones, like:

http://ping.fm/YloYM

(rotfl)

The input box does colour the character count red when you get too long. .


2008/10/27 Bruce James [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 IMHO Ping.fm is good, but not great.

 Would be nice to see a bit of a preview of what a post looks like in
 various services.

 Some of mine have been truncated by twitter and facebook and look odd.  And
 links sometimes come out all wrong for me, so tinyurl before submission?

 B



 On 27 Oct 2008, at 17:19, Stefan Richter wrote:

  Hi Ian,
 in your opinion, what would be a critical feature set for a ping.fmdesktop 
 app?
 Obviously you'd need to be able to post updates to the ping.fm service,
 but what outside the core functionality would you like to see?

 Regards,

 Stefan



 On 27 Oct 2008, at 16:29, Ian Forrester wrote:

  Yeah this is the thing I'm really worried about happening. Ping.fm
 currently is my preferred way to do microblogging. Without it, geez it would
 be bad news. Surprised no ones created a ping.fm type thing for the
 desktop.


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[backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-21 Thread Brian Butterworth
Sunday: added 23 social networks to my ping.fm account.
Tuesday: http://ping.fm has disappeared!  Has it been credit crunched?

Is it to return?  Or do I need to change 23 passwords?

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Re: [backstage] ping.fm

2008-10-21 Thread Peter Bowyer
2008/10/21 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Sunday: added 23 social networks to my ping.fm account.
 Tuesday: http://ping.fm has disappeared!  Has it been credit crunched?
 Is it to return?  Or do I need to change 23 passwords?

They're having problems with GoDaddy. Definitely not dead.

http://tinyurl.com/5bdl3w

Follow @pingfm on twitter.

Peter


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