Re: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming

2007-03-05 Thread Martin Belam

devils advocate
Wow, what an excellent use of council tax payers money.

I mean, firstly nobody else has developed any kind of streaming video
system, so I'm glad they spent 18 months building it themselves.

And the potential user base is, what, the 1% of people in the UK with
computers that run Linux, provided they also live in Waverley, and
want to stream video of their local council meetings.

I wonder what the cost per user is?

Perhaps we can get together and do a FOI request on the council to find out?
/devils advocate



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On 02/03/07, Glyn Wintle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39286141,00.htm

When the European Commission launched a streaming
video service last year which excluded Linux users,
large swathes of the open source community became
deeply angry. Now, a Surrey local council has shown
that open source operating systems can be included in
such programmes.

...a local council in Surrey has developed a streaming
project over the last 18 months. And unlike the
Commission's project, developers behind the UK version
have made their service available to Linux users.




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RE: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming

2007-03-05 Thread Christopher Woods
Maybe it's the secret iPlayer-for-Linux-and-Mac-users dev project!

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Belam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 March 2007 09:27
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming
 
 devils advocate
 Wow, what an excellent use of council tax payers money.
 
 I mean, firstly nobody else has developed any kind of 
 streaming video system, so I'm glad they spent 18 months 
 building it themselves.
 
 And the potential user base is, what, the 1% of people in 
 the UK with computers that run Linux, provided they also live 
 in Waverley, and want to stream video of their local council meetings.
 
 I wonder what the cost per user is?
 
 Perhaps we can get together and do a FOI request on the 
 council to find out?
 /devils advocate
 
 
 
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 On 02/03/07, Glyn Wintle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39286141,00.htm
 
  When the European Commission launched a streaming video 
 service last 
  year which excluded Linux users, large swathes of the open source 
  community became deeply angry. Now, a Surrey local council 
 has shown 
  that open source operating systems can be included in such 
 programmes.
 
  ...a local council in Surrey has developed a streaming project over 
  the last 18 months. And unlike the Commission's project, developers 
  behind the UK version have made their service available to Linux 
  users.
 
 
 
  
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Re: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming

2007-03-05 Thread George Wright


On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:26:59 +0100, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 devils advocate

reality check

 Wow, what an excellent use of council tax payers money.


Yes,delivering services to their whole userbase.

 I mean, firstly nobody else has developed any kind of streaming video
 system, so I'm glad they spent 18 months building it themselves.

If the market hasn't seen fit to deliver a cross platform solution, maybe they 
had to.
Or maybe they had NotInventedHere syndrome :P


 And the potential user base is, what, the 1% of people in the UK with
 computers that run Linux, provided they also live in Waverley, and
 want to stream video of their local council meetings.

No, that assumes this service *excludes* the people who run the dominant OS and 
media player. It doesn't. What it does is include them, and people who happen 
not to.

So the potential user base is everyone in that area who wants to stream video 
of their council meetings

Following your argument to its logical extreme would mean *not* providing acess 
to council meetings for people with physical movement problems, or who need 
council information in a non English form - because these, after all, don't 
make up the majority

George

PS hi martin

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RE: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming

2007-03-05 Thread Christopher Woods
It's ok, 1% of the mailing list will even pay any attention to the email at
all. ;)


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Sent: 05 March 2007 10:05
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Subject: Re: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming


SSss!! It's a secret!


On 05/03/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Maybe it's the secret iPlayer-for-Linux-and-Mac-users dev project!

 -Original Message- 
 From: Martin Belam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2007 09:27
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk  mailto:backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk 
 Subject: Re: [backstage] UK trumps Europe on Linux streaming

 devils advocate
 Wow, what an excellent use of council tax payers money.

 I mean, firstly nobody else has developed any kind of 
 streaming video system, so I'm glad they spent 18 months
 building it themselves.

 And the potential user base is, what, the 1% of people in
 the UK with computers that run Linux, provided they also live 
 in Waverley, and want to stream video of their local council meetings.

 I wonder what the cost per user is?

 Perhaps we can get together and do a FOI request on the
 council to find out? 
 /devils advocate



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 On 02/03/07, Glyn Wintle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,100121,39286141,00.htm
 
  When the European Commission launched a streaming video 
 service last
  year which excluded Linux users, large swathes of the open source
  community became deeply angry. Now, a Surrey local council
 has shown
  that open source operating systems can be included in such 
 programmes.
 
  ...a local council in Surrey has developed a streaming project over
  the last 18 months. And unlike the Commission's project, developers
  behind the UK version have made their service available to Linux 
  users.
 
 
 
 
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