Re: [BackupPC-users] NAS / SAN and other storage devices
If you are usig a SAN or NAS, it should look like 'just another disk' to your BackupPC server. So, yes, you can use them. The problem Ihave found is needing the backuppc backup storage to appear as a single file system. I guess you could use software striping across just about any kind of disk images (real disks, external RAID, SAN or NAS based drives) but it would be up to you to ensure redundancy in case one of the components failed (or just became unavailable temporarily). IHS ... Jack On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:37 AM, yodo64 wrote: > > Hi all > > I am wondering if it is possible to store the backup datas, on non resident > devices disks, with Backuppc ? > Can I have a NAS or a disk in network wich is not inside the backuppc server ? > IF YES where are the informations about those possibilities ? > > If NOT how do I do when all the possibilities of insides disks are full ? Do > I have to add a second backuppc server ? > > Thanks for your help > > +-- > |This was sent by lionel@equipement-agriculture.gouv.fr via Backup > Central. > |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. > +-- > > > > -- > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki: http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Server reboots nightly
check any log files you find in /var/log too! messages is a good one to start with, but depending on the exact configuration, you might find other log files there too. Chris Robertson wrote: > Chris Baker wrote: > >> Which logs should I check? >> > > /var/log/messages > > >> And what should I look for in these logs? >> > > Run the command dmesg (first, "man dmesg" so you know what this command > does) and take a look at the output. This is the bootup message and > should be replicated in /var/log/messages. Take a look at the entries > above for clues as to why your server is restarting. The last log entry > before the dmesg output should be something along the lines of "Kernel > log daemon terminating." and should be proceeded by evidence of exiting > processes. If not, you probably have power or hardware problems. If > you do see evidence of a graceful restart, at least you know about when > it's happening. Start looking through /etc/cron.* and /etc/crontab for > jobs that run around that time. > > >> I do >> know where the logs are on the system. >> >> > > Chris > > -- > Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) > software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to > build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local > resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and > Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > > -- Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Junctions on WinXP
It has the same issue with UNIX mount points. Such is the nature of rsync. I have managed to avoid Vista sofar, but I guess I may need to build a system sometime. Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote: > Does BackupPC know how to treat NTFS junction points. > They are analogous to *nix symbolic links but only work on > directories. > > Based on a little test, it seems like BackupPC does not know about > them since it seems to have copied over all the data -- i.e. it > treated the junction as a real directory rather than as a > symbolic-type link. The attribute file also seems to treat it like a > normal directory. Now to be fair, rsync does the same, so some of this > may be an rsync artifact. > > Also, my understanding is that Vista introduced a notion of Unix-like > symbolic links. Does anyone know whether they are treated properly by > BackupPC? > (I don't have Vista around to test but it would even be interesting to > know how rsync treats them). > > Thanks > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving
Yes, the ubuntu install is different from the 'source' install, so the documentation doesn't fit exactly. After trying the Ubuntu package, I had to totally remove it and install from the sourceforge files (not .deb either) The install went nicely, even though it isn't the 'ubuntu way', it worked well and the documents were totally in sync. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > InstallDir on my system = /usr/share/backuppc > In /usr/share/backuppc/bin are various files including: > BackupPC_archive (Note not BackupPC_archiveStart) > BackupPC_archiveHost > > The on-line docs at Sourceforge do not correspond with my Ubuntu 8.04-Server > LTS distribution. > > At the command line, using the full path, both can be started. From the CGI > it appears that BackupPC_archiveHost is started with the following command: > $Installdir/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost $tarCreatePath $splitpath $parpath $host > $backupnumber $compression $compext $splitsize $archiveloc $parfile * > > Still, it doesn't explain why it it fails to run when scheduled or fails to > create a log entry, but works when started manually using the button in the > CGI and creates the log entries. > > SamK > > >> From: "Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2008/11/17 Mon AM 09:45:41 GMT >> To: "General list for user discussion, >> questions and support" >> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Working Well - Except Archiving >> >> SamK wrote: >> >> >>> The on-line documentation at Sourceforge mentions creating an >>> archive at the command line using BackupPC_archiveStart. This >>> method fails as the system cannot find BackupPC_archiveStart. >>> >> The BackupPC_archiveStart binary is probably not in your path. Try >> calling it using the full path, e.g. /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/ >> BackupPC_archiveStart on our systems. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Different TopDir for different clients.
I don't know what happened to it, but at one time there was development being done on a 'distributed file system', where the data was 'raided' across many systems, so if some of the systems 'went away' the data was still there and updated. And when they came back, it was automatically put back in and 'synced'. It was supposed to use all much of the 'unused space' on client desktops, but the people on the desktop would have to go into the 'front door' to see the data, not just what was on their desk. Oz Dror wrote: > Thanks for responding: > > Regarding the first issue. > > I have a limited backup space in my server. On the other had I have disk > space in some clients that is wasted. > Thus I was hopping to backup one client to another client's disk, rather > than to my main storage. > > Regarding the second issues. The client is a windows client. My > understanding is that when you use rsyncd in windows. you can either > exclude dirs or include > dirs. not both. I only need to backup a couple of user accounts in that > client. I was hoping to do it with two backup schedules, because of the > limitation above. > These accounts have different file exclusions. > > -Oz > > Martin Leben wrote: > >> Hi Oz, >> >> Read on... >> >> Oz Dror wrote: >> >> >>> I am sure that it was asked before, but I was not able to find >>> satisfying answer on the net. >>> >>> 1. How can I have different TopDir assigned to different client computers. >>> >>> >> No, you can't. Tell us more about what problem you are trying to solve >> instead. >> >> >> >> >>> 2. How can I have different backup schedules for the same PC client. >>> >>> >> Create an extra host in backuppc that points to the same client machine. But >> why >> would you want to do that? Just as with the question above, tell us more >> about >> the actual problem you are trying to solve. >> >> I am not really an expert on Backuppc, so if I misunderstood anything please >> correct me. And don't hesitate to follow up if Oz has more questions if he >> follows up on this subject and I am not jumping the gun. >> >> BR >> /Martin Leben >> >> >> - >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> ___ >> BackupPC-users mailing list >> BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users >> Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net >> Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ >> >> > > > - > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net > Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > > - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Different TopDir for different clients.
Oz, Try multiple implementations of BackupPC server! Even one 'big backup server' and several 'virtual servers' to handle special needs. For most clients, I agree, multiple schedules are not needed, but I too have come into that kind of issue (a directory has lots of changes, so we needed to back it up hourly, even though the data was never there over 24 hours before it was merged into a big database that was backed up daily. I had a different 'client name' and different 'backup schedule' for that client alone. This was NOT using BackupPC (It was IBMs TSM). It might be possible to do that in BackupPC, but we need to get someone that knows more BackupPC than I do to answer that. But I agree, please give us a bit more detail of the problem / issue you are trying to address, the we can brainstorm together! ... Jack - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Removing a client backups?
What is the right way to remove a client computer and its backups? Is there a clean way without letting them 'age off'? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] wiki and forums
I think only registered users can edit anyway, if I remember right. So there is some 'social protection from vandalism. Yes, keeping it all in one place would be great! On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 13:23 -0700, Craig Barratt wrote: > Nils writes: > > > > http://www.wiki.sourceforge.net/ > > > > > > (i'm not quite sure how membership/authorization work.) > > > > I think that might be the option for continuity and everything will > > be kept in the backuppc.sourceforge.net space. I think Craig may have > > to 'enable' this somehow? > > I like the idea of everything still being hosted by SF. I just > turned it on. It's in public mode - anyone can view and edit. > > If there is vandalism then I'll switch it to protected mode - that > allows viewing by anyone and I'll give users permission to edit. > > Craig > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC: Antivirus suggestion.
I think it would be great to have using ClamAV or AVG as an OPTION on scanning files coming in from clients. If they are found in need, then need to be quarantined (and admin alarmed at the end of the backup period once a day) with the normal information kept that the AV software already does plus client information. We might also want this to be on a client by client basis (I don't want to scan my servers usually, but I do want to scan stuff from desktops normally.) On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 13:31 +0100, Simon Avery wrote: > Hi. > > Debian Etch and 2.1.2.6 > > I'm not convinced this is a sensible thing to ask, but worth a try... > > I'd like to scan for viruses on our company LAN periodically, in > addition to a resident guard program. This has historically found bad > things in caches before they've been run. > > I have been using AVG on each Windows client but the free version > doesn't allow useful scheduling, only "once per day every day" and as > it's very intrusive causes much unrest from my users who suddenly find > their computers crawling. > > So - would it be possible to scan the backups as they are made using > BackupPC? Possibly during the "link" phase after a successful backup. > > I know I could run clam(d)scan on the backup directories but this would > cause huge duplication and would take twice forever so is there scope > for a clever addition to BackupPC which calls a program for each "new" > file that's added to the pool, such as clam(d)scan? > > If it returns an error code, then that would be emailed to the admin > along with the filename, path and computer it came from so I could run a > full scan. > > Benefits: (To me at least!) > Clients don't get any additional disk access or cpu usage beyond a > normal backup. > No virus re-scanning of files that haven't changed. > No increase of backup duration if done afterward during link. > > Drawbacks: > Increase of cpu usage on server. > > > Is this a good idea, has it been done already, is it beyond the scope of > BackupPC's remit or am I barking? > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Status information stuck in the past
Where I worked one time, to make sure the clients machines were on at night, we asked the workers to REBOOT, not SHUTDOWN their machine when they leave. That way the M$ machines got fresh reboots regularly (in a kind manner) and the nightly network tasks could do their thing (virus scans, update pushed software, and backups if needed). If worrying about power, let the machines go to 'sleep', but make sure that wakeup on lan is on and working. Just a suggestion. On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:36 +0200, Erik van Linstee wrote: > Craig Barratt schreef: > > This means BackupPC_nightly isn't running (or running completely). > > > > Look at the top of the last few LOG files to see if it running, > > or whether it gives an error. > > > If BackupPC_nightly needs to run, then no wonder. This machine is never > on at night :-) > I'll try and see what happens. > > Thanks, > Erik > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backuppc problem about storage
This is how I moved backuppc home directory on my ubuntu 2.x system, as root: /etc/init.d/backuppc stop mkdir /backup/backuppc chown backuppc.backuppc /backup/backuppc cd /var/lib/backuppc;tar cf - . | (cd /opt/backuppc;tar xvf - ) cd .. mv /var/lib/backuppc /var/lib/backuppc.save ln -s /var/lib/backuppc /backup/backuppc /etc/init.d/backuppc start /backup is on a large additional drive/array. then later after remove /var/lib/backuppc.save once you like what you see. Yes, it is a little over simplified, but that is the basics of what I did to move the backuppc home directory. But this worked for me. On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 11:28 +0200, Renke Brausse wrote: > Hello Varuna, > > as I know the path is hard coded while compiling - I > bind-mounted /var/lib/backuppc to the real storage path to solve this > issue. > > Renke > > Am Donnerstag, den 04.10.2007, 14:54 +0530 schrieb Varuna Nohar: > > hi all > > > > i want to know that the path to store the backup is > > var/lib/backuppc/pc > > > > but i wanted to store in my home . It is taking it defalut .Now i want > > to know from where i should change > > > > to be store in the desired location. > > > > Regards > > > > Varuna Nohar > > - > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > ___ BackupPC-users mailing list > > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Migration? 2.x to 3.x
I have a 2.x install I am using that came in via apt to our ubuntu backup server. I would like to go to 3.x. Is there some migration information I have missed? Or does it need to be a 'wipe and start over' situation? TIA, Jack - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] New Hardware [war Troubleshooting a slow backup]
>From when I used to be pre-sales and tech support for a VAR that sold different backup solutions: Run your numbers before you decide on hardware. It is all about bandwidth. There is bandwidth you need to consider everywhere. 1. client read speed during the backup session (what else is going on) 2. client network communication speed under that CPU load 3. network issues. ... over the internet in a simple example you often go: client -> local switch -> router -> [internet cloud] -> router -> switch -> backup host and there can be more layers in there. At one bank I worked for that was EXACTLY what we saw, only the 'internet cloud' was 'wan', with DS3 at the central site, but T1 at each the client end (37 remote client sites, some sites had multiple servers). Over a T1 at one client site (1.44Mbit) the effective throughput rate was considerably less after you take off protocols, encryption, etc (like .6 of the total bandwidth was all we could really transport data on). On your server, again, network NIC bandwidth, How much are you expecting to recieve at one time? Do you have enough CPU to drive the NIC full out and do other tasks? CPU, memory, and backplane bandwidth, to drive the data. (if you can do DMA and not have the data go through the CPU, that is a good thing). Do you have enough memory on your backup server (if you swap or page at all, you do not have enough)? Are your disk controllers / raid controllers / drives fast enough to deal with it? RAID other than RAID 1 has CPU costs to calculate parity or do comparisons. Good RAID controllers present already raided drives to the processor, so the CPU does not know/care that there is RAID back there. But the RAID controller CPU/memory/io speed must be fast enough to keep up. On all these rates, you will also find 'burst rates' versus 'sustained rates'. Burst rates are usually a lot faster and are often quoted in the sales literature. Snag the information you can from 'white papers' and from 'product comparisons' in trade rags/journals. Even 'maximum PC' does interesting non-server raid hardware comparisons sometimes. This is the BackupPC list, so I won't bore you with the same diatribe about multi-teer disks and tapes. In short the scenario is the same. If you would like to send me some information offlist, I would be glad to help you work through some of it. I am not up on the latest hardware, but if you have a Dell VAR you use, have THEIR pre-sales SE (systems engineer) do it and get you the gory detail. Tell them you need to make it 'run very well' and show me at least 3 different options. If they are a good VAR, they will be happy to do it, if they think you are really interested. Talk to their pre-sales SE first, kind of an interview to see if you believe that 'he knows from where he speaks'. I hope this helps. ... Jack - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] multiple IP for the same host
If you have your own (versus an appliance) DHCP server, you could code the DHCP to resolve both of the same ether addresses to a single IP address. Just make sure to NOT use BOTH at the same time on your laptop. (unless you figure out how to do the old 'shotgun' or bonding kind of network things to give you the bandwidth of both ... ugh) On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 17:39 +0200, Sébastien Barthélemy wrote: > Le vendredi 28 septembre 2007 à 20:23 -0400, Rod Dickerson a écrit : > > One possible solution is just to hard code your machines’ IP > > addresses. You only have 4, so set them all with static ip addresses > > and then use /etc/hosts. > > Set the wireless and wired IP addresses to be the same; you only use > > one at a time, right? > > nothing garanties that ! Normally this is the case, but... > > > I would hate to see you use Samba just for some sort of name > > resolution just for 4 machines. > > I agree, I'm afraid of samba and have no time to read the huge full doc. > > > Yes, it is a little inconvenient when traveling with the laptop. My > > Mac has profiles for different network locations, not sure if Windows > > has that or not. > > There is no windows laptop involved here > > > Otherwise you will just have to remember to change it back to DHCP > > when mobile. > > > > Another possible solution is to set up static arp entries on the > > backuppc server, and then still use /etc/hosts. > > Ok, you suggest two way of giving the same IP to the two network > interfaces of the laptop. Can't we give the different IP but the same > hostname ? (Jack: if yes, how ?) > > I also heard of "avahi", "zeroconf" ans "bonjour" as system useful to > discover services in a network. I'm not sure about what this means, but > this is used by linux and mac. Maybe this is the solution ? ? (Jack: if > yes, how ?) > > Thanks a lot again > > cheers > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] multiple IP for the same host
You are on the right track. I would suggest enable samba network sharing but first, go in and edit your smb.conf (/etc/samba/smb.conf on my machine) to disable all of the open network sharing. ... share only what you want, if anything). The important thing is that samba is running so it could be detected by your backuppc server. Other folks, please speak up in case I am spouting information 'from where I do not know' :) On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 19:15 +0200, Sébastien Barthélemy wrote: > Le vendredi 28 septembre 2007 à 09:55 -0500, Jack Coats a écrit : > > yes, expounded upon :) --- my wife gets on my case for answering the > > question she asked rather than what she meant! > > > > the facility to detect a machine by name rather than just IP works well. > > I would just try it first. Don't put the laptop in your /etc/hosts > > files, and see it you can get to it from the server using nmblookup. (I > > forget the full syntax right now, sorry) > > Thank you for your suggestion, > > nmblookup does work for a windows computer but not for my ubuntu laptop > (nor for a MacOS X laptop I tried a few month ago). > > Is there a simple and secure way to enable such reply ? (if yes, what is it > ?) Will it work on mac ? > > (I'm rather suspicious on that topic: last time I enabled samba sharing on > ubuntu, people where able to see all the computer user names) > > > cheers > > > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] multiple IP for the same host
yes, expounded upon :) --- my wife gets on my case for answering the question she asked rather than what she meant! the facility to detect a machine by name rather than just IP works well. I would just try it first. Don't put the laptop in your /etc/hosts files, and see it you can get to it from the server using nmblookup. (I forget the full syntax right now, sorry) On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:30 +0200, Sébastien Barthélemy wrote: > Le jeudi 27 septembre 2007 à 09:54 -0500, Jack Coats a écrit : > On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 16:41 +0200, Sébastien Barthélemy wrote: > > > Hello everybody. > > > > > > I use backuppc at home to backup 4 computers, including a laptop. All of > > > them are on a private network behind a wireless router (provided by my > > > ISP). The laptop can be connected by wire (with IP 192.168.15.5) or by > > > wifi (with IP 192.168.15.6). > > > > > > I would like backuppc to backup the laptop when it is on the network, > > > whatever it is by wire or wifi. > > > > > > Is it possible ? > > > > > > Let's also say that I have no DNS on the private network, I resolve > > > names through /etc/hosts > > > > The short answer is, yes. > > ok. Thanks Jack ! > > The next (short) question is how ? > > cheers > > Sebastien > > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] multiple IP for the same host
The short answer is, yes. On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 16:41 +0200, Sébastien Barthélemy wrote: > Hello everybody. > > I use backuppc at home to backup 4 computers, including a laptop. All of > them are on a private network behind a wireless router (provided by my > ISP). The laptop can be connected by wire (with IP 192.168.15.5) or by > wifi (with IP 192.168.15.6). > > I would like backuppc to backup the laptop when it is on the network, > whatever it is by wire or wifi. > > Is it possible ? > > Let's also say that I have no DNS on the private network, I resolve > names through /etc/hosts > > Thanks a lot for any help > > Cheers > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] restricting cgi users restore to their own files, or how to handle many users.
I only ever have seen one backup package that allowed that fine grained
restores. ... SyBack by SyncSort, Inc. on the IBM VM operating system
for CMS users.
Any user could restore any file they owned or could read to wherever
they had write permissions to.
That would be a 'killer enhancement to BackupPC!
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 04:31 -0700, Craig Barratt wrote:
> Ronny writes:
>
> > I am taking backup of a directory /home, containing ~1000 users.
> > And i want to allow each of the users access to restore his own files.
> > But NOT to read/restore files that he normaly would not.
> >
> > Example: user1 have a file in /home/user1/private.txt that have 600
> > permissions. I dont want user2 to be able to read this thru the backuppc
> > cgi.
> >
> > i have tested this with a line in hosts that say
> > server 0 rootuser1,user2
> >
> > and it seams to me that user2 can read all files of the backup, even
> > files he normaly would have no access to.
> >
> > So how others solve this problem ?
> > must you have 1000 lines in hosts, one line for each homedir ? Or are
> > there a different way where i can have backuppc check the orginal
> > permissions and deny restore if the user in question dont have the right
> > access.
>
> BackupPC doesn't provide a mechanism to have fine-grained
> per-user permissions when browsing backups. The host file
> users have permissions for the entire host: browsing, editing
> the configuration, starting and canceling backups, etc.
>
> Enforcing permissions is a bit difficult since apache doesn't
> provide the uid and gid - just the username - and the backups
> just contain the client uid/gid. There is no guarantee that
> user names and uid/gids are common between the server and
> client.
>
> Perhaps we could have a new config variable which forces the
> browse path for non-admin users, eg:
>
> $Conf{CgiUserBrowseChroot} = {
> 'user1' => '/home:/user1',
> 'user2' => '/home:/user2',
> };
>
> (/home is the share, and /user1 is the path relative to
> that share)
>
> There could also be a wildcard form that allows any user to
> browse their folder:
>
> $Conf{CgiUserBrowseChroot} = {
> '*' => '/home:/*',
> };
>
> One drawback is this host won't appear in the pulldown in
> the navigation bar, since that is based on the hosts file.
> So the user has to navigate to their host by knowing the
> correct URL.
>
> Craig
>
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[BackupPC-users] XP Backup of system state
Does someone have a 'systems state' backup procedure for a Windows XP system (I need to do it for a Win2003 server also, but one issue at a time)? I used to do IBM TSM backups, and TSM generated a directory in the root of the windows system drive, and it put all the needed systems state backup there then backed that up as flat files. It is what made doing a bear metal restore possible. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] backup Linux/Mac clients that are DHCP
The company I work for sells Asterisk based machines and DHCP is a big deal for VOIP phones. We find that it helps sometimes to TURN OFF the Linksys DHCP and let our server do it. You might try that with your backup server. The Linksys can still be the default gateway to the 'world', but you can manage the DHCP yourself and make it 'work right' for you! Another thought, set the DHCP timeout to be VERY LONG. So you don't hand out new IPs except to really NEW machines! Think of how long a machine is normally off your network, and double it. That is a good starting point! On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 11:54 -0700, Jon Saints wrote: > My only aversion to assigning fixed IPs via dhcp is that my clients generally > use cheap linksys routers that do not all support this feature. > > But i agree, it does sound like the way to go. > Thanks > Jon > > - Original Message > From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:00:54 AM > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] backup Linux/Mac clients that are DHCP > > On 09/20 08:37 , Jon Saints wrote: > > The problem occurs when the DHCP server changes the IP address of one of > > the clients. Once this happens, the security key exchange that i did > > originally with the client is no longer valid. As a result, subsequent > > backups fail. > > > > What is the best way around this? I prefer to keep my clients using DHCP. > > Would using a local Certificate Authority solve this problem? or is my > > best option to have the DHCP server assign fixed IPs to the clients that > > need to be backed up (i would prefer to avoid this if possible)? > > I find it simplifies administration to statically assign IP addresses to > hosts, via the DHCP server. This way you can also set up DNS and be able to > find hosts via DNS names, which makes it much easier when sharing the load > with other administrators. > > Is there a reason you are opposed to static entries for each host? > > If you're willing to learn its idiosyncracies, Dynamic DNS is an option as > well. Be warned that it's a bit fragile tho. > - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Newbie issue
Thanks Steven. ... to me it looks like it is getting the list compiled,
Here is what I see in the log:
File /var/lib/backuppc/pc/vcch164/XferLOG.bad.z (Extracting only Errors)
Contents of file /var/lib/backuppc/pc/vcch164/XferLOG.bad.z, modified
2007-09-17 14:51:18 (Extracting only Errors)
Running: /usr/bin/ssh -x [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/bin/rsync-new --server
--sender --numeric-ids --perms --owner --group --devices --links --times
--block-size=2048 --recursive --exclude=/proc --exclude=/dev --exclude=/cdrom
--exclude=/media --exclude=/floppy --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/var/lib/backuppc
--exclude=/backup --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/temp
--ignore-times . /
Xfer PIDs are now 18687
Got remote protocol 29
Negotiated protocol version 26
Sent exclude: /proc
Sent exclude: /dev
Sent exclude: /cdrom
Sent exclude: /media
Sent exclude: /floppy
Sent exclude: /mnt
Sent exclude: /var/lib/backuppc
Sent exclude: /backup
Sent exclude: /lost+found
Sent exclude: /tmp
Sent exclude: /temp
fileListReceive() failed
Done: 0 files, 0 bytes
Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 14:15 -0600, Steven Whaley wrote:
> That error message is unfortunately pretty general. It means that
> something hung rsync before could gather the file list, likely before it
> even attempted to. If you go to the host summary and view the error log
> it might give you more detail on what problem was. If that doesn't help
> try running the RsyncClientCmd by hand on the CLI and see what kind of
> error message you get.
>
> Jack Coats wrote:
> > Ok, I assume this is a dumb user problem. ... I am testing getting
> > backuppc to work with this Linux client, but I cannot get it to work
> > for me.
> >
> > I do have Dirvish working with the same client.
> >
> > My log says:
> >
> > 2007-09-17 14:51:09 vcch164
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?host=vcch164> is dhcp
> > 192.168.98.164, user is vcch164
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?host=vcch164>
> > 2007-09-17 14:51:09 full backup started for directory /
> > 2007-09-17 14:51:13 Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
> > 2007-09-17 14:51:18 Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > client config:
> >
> >
> >
> > Contents of file /etc/backuppc/vcch164.pl, modified 2007-08-23 12:55:59
> >
> >
> > $Conf{XferMethod}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7bxfermethod%7d>
> > = 'rsync';
> > $Conf{RsyncClientPath}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7brsyncclientpath%7d>
> > = '/usr/local/bin/rsync-new';
> > #Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l vcchtech $host $rsyncPath
> > $argList+';
> > $Conf{RsyncClientCmd}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7brsyncclientcmd%7d>
> > = '$sshPath-x [EMAIL PROTECTED] $rsyncPath $argList+';
> > #$Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7brsyncclientrestorecmd%7d>
> > = '$sshPath -q -x -l vcchtech $host $rsyncPath $argList+';
> > $Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7brsyncclientrestorecmd%7d>
> > = '$sshPath -q -x -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] $rsyncPath $argList+';
> >
> > $Conf{TarShareName}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7btarsharename%7d>
> > = ['/'];
> >
> > #Conf{TarClientCmd} = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/bin/tarCreate -v -f - -C
> > $shareName --totals';
> > $Conf{TarClientCmd}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7btarclientcmd%7d>
> > = '/usr/local/bin/tarCreate -v -f - -C $shareName --totals';
> >
> > $Conf{BackupFilesExclude}
> > <http://vcch159/backuppc/index.cgi?action=view&type=docs#item_%24conf%7bbackupfilesexclude%7d>
> > = ['/proc', '/dev', '/cdrom', '/media', '/floppy', '/mnt',
> > '/var/lib/backuppc', '/backup', '/lost+found', '/tmp', '/temp'];
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > And the rsync-new is a script in /usr/local/bin:
> >
&g
[BackupPC-users] Newbie issue
Ok, I assume this is a dumb user problem. ... I am testing getting
backuppc to work with this Linux client, but I cannot get it to work for
me.
I do have Dirvish working with the same client.
My log says:
2007-09-17 14:51:09 vcch164 is dhcp 192.168.98.164, user is vcch164
2007-09-17 14:51:09 full backup started for directory /
2007-09-17 14:51:13 Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed)
2007-09-17 14:51:18 Backup aborted (fileListReceive failed)
client config:
Contents of file /etc/backuppc/vcch164.pl, modified 2007-08-23 12:55:59
$Conf{XferMethod} = 'rsync';
$Conf{RsyncClientPath} = '/usr/local/bin/rsync-new';
#Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l vcchtech $host $rsyncPath $argList+';
$Conf{RsyncClientCmd} = '$sshPath-x [EMAIL PROTECTED] $rsyncPath $argList+';
#$Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l vcchtech $host $rsyncPath
$argList+';
$Conf{RsyncClientRestoreCmd} = '$sshPath -q -x -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] $rsyncPath
$argList+';
$Conf{TarShareName} = ['/'];
#Conf{TarClientCmd} = '/usr/bin/sudo /usr/local/bin/tarCreate -v -f - -C
$shareName --totals';
$Conf{TarClientCmd} = '/usr/local/bin/tarCreate -v -f - -C $shareName --totals';
$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = ['/proc', '/dev', '/cdrom', '/media', '/floppy',
'/mnt', '/var/lib/backuppc', '/backup', '/lost+found', '/tmp', '/temp'];
And the rsync-new is a script in /usr/local/bin:
#!/bin/sh
sudo /usr/bin/rsync $*
And the user vcchtech has permission to issue sudo /usr/bin/rsync
without being prompted for a password.
I really don't want to clutter up the list, but I will gladly send any config
information that is needed for debugging.
I have been beating my head on this for quite a while, so your assistance is
appreciated. ... Jack
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Idea: disk usage graphs
I can see a desire for the small installations to want a 'one size fits all' backup and monitoring product. BackupPC does most of what is needed pretty well. I would like just a simple 'red light'/'yellow light'/'green light' - backup did not start (red), backup had problems but backed up some files (yellow), and (green) if everything completed without incident. ... But that is MY perspective. And yes, then I would complain tha I couldn't click on the 'light' and see the log files :) But if something like that would be put in, I think it should be put in so as to replace a small 'module' with hooks to another appropriate monitoring package, so it can be EASILY extensible to whatever someone else might want at least from the BackupPC side. On Tue, July 31, 2007 8:22 am, Michael Mansour wrote: > Hi Ludovic, > >> Hi ! >> >> I think that the following feature would be nice: >> - having a graph of the pool size, and remaining disk usage. >> >> It would allow us to predict future disk usage and anticipate a disk >> upgrade. This could be easily added using the rrdtool binary, but I >> may have not time to do this, so, if someone has more free time :-) > > There's plenty of tools to already do this for you. For the simplest you > can > use Webminstats as a module installed into Webmin. Install it, turn it on. > It > doesn't get harder than that. > > For the more complex you can go with Nagios or Cacti. I see no reason why > BackupPC should go the route of graphing disk usage when there's so many > other > tools that specialise in it. > > Regards, > > Michael. > >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Ludovic Drolez. >> >> http://zaurus.palmopensource.com - The Zaurus Open Source >> Portal http://www.drolez.com - Personal site - Linux, Zaurus >> and PalmOS stuff >> >> - >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> ___ >> BackupPC-users mailing list >> BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users >> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > --- End of Original Message --- > > > - > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > ___ > BackupPC-users mailing list > BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ > -- Jack Coats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 615-382-4758 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
