Re: [BackupPC-users] Real Time View of What Is Being Copied

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On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 13:26 +, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:

> 
> > One common legitimate use case for sparse files is virtual disk images.
> 
> Ah, good point!  But nobody in his right mind would use BackupPC
> to back them up directly as files, would they?

I used to do that until I found out that the Veeam Backup Agent for linux
was free and a stand-alone product.
My Veeam setup does a daily bare metal backup, while my BackupPC setup does
a daily backup of the everchanging smaller stuff in /etc/, /home and such.
Stuff that I need to get back fast should the need arise. 
The folder containing my virtualbox disk images are however excluded for
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Adding a max and warning line to the backup pool size?

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On Mon, 2021-03-15 at 08:45 +0100, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On 3/13/21 5:24 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Is it possible to add a red max and yellow warning line to the BackupPC pool
> > size chart, reading from the df or OS partition size?
> 
> Speaking of the pool size chart, was that removed in BPC 4.x?  I did a 
> test install on Debian 10 (bpc 3.3.1), then set up my final production 
> install on Debian 11 (bpc 4.4.0).  The deb10 version had the graphs 
> showing by default, but I'm not seeing them on the deb11 server.
> 

In my case after upgrading from BPC 3 to 4, I had to wait a few days until
the graphs showed up.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Adding a max and warning line to the backup pool size?

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On Sun, 2021-03-14 at 17:13 +0300, Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users
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> On 14.03.2021 15:19, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > On Sat, 2021-03-13 at 21:20 +0300, Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users
> > wrote:
> > > On 13.03.2021 19:24, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > > > Is it possible to add a red max and yellow warning line to the BackupPC 
> > > > pool
> > > > size chart, reading from the df or OS partition size?
> > > > 
> > > It is easy to draw horizontal lines on the chart, but file system size 
> > > for every OS and file system type is hard to guess.
> > 
> > I realize partition sizes rarely change.
> > 
> > Can the size be statically set instead maybe, and changed as needed when the
> > disk arrays, pools or partitions are increased?
> > 
> Another option to get file system size is a user-configurable command.
> 
> > What are some keywords to look for; "rrd add static lines" or some such?BPC
> > does use rrd for this, tight?
> > 
> You need to add an HRULE instruction.
> 
> https://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdgraph_graph.en.html

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Adding a max and warning line to the backup pool size?

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On Sun, 2021-03-14 at 13:33 +, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2021, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to add a red max and yellow warning line to the BackupPC pool
> > size chart, reading from the df or OS partition size?
> > 
> > Just to get an idea when the disks, pool or partitions are getting on the
> > full side.
> 
> I'd suggest that there's a lot more than that to monitor, and that
> Icinga/Nagios might be the way to go.  It's a fair amount of effort
> but I don't know what I'd do without it now.
> 

I've thought about those lines to, but everytime I sit down to go through a
Icinga setup guide, I end up watching ultimate fails on youtube instead.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Adding a max and warning line to the backup pool size?

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On Sat, 2021-03-13 at 21:20 +0300, Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users
wrote:
> On 13.03.2021 19:24, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Is it possible to add a red max and yellow warning line to the BackupPC pool
> > size chart, reading from the df or OS partition size?
> > 
> It is easy to draw horizontal lines on the chart, but file system size for 
> every OS and file system type is hard to guess.

I realize partition sizes rarely change. 

Can the size be statically set instead maybe, and changed as needed when the
disk arrays, pools or partitions are increased?

What are some keywords to look for; "rrd add static lines" or some such?BPC
does use rrd for this, tight?


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[BackupPC-users] Adding a max and warning line to the backup pool size?

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Hi all,

Is it possible to add a red max and yellow warning line to the BackupPC pool
size chart, reading from the df or OS partition size?

Just to get an idea when the disks, pool or partitions are getting on the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Full backups taking a very long time

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On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 12:59 +, David Williams wrote:
> No, I don’t have a lot of small files.  As I mentioned, the full backups 
> weren’t taking that long before the upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04.  Not sure why an 
> OS upgrade would severely increase the time to back up.  The machine, hard 
> drives (SSD’s) are all the same.
> 
> The version of BackupPC that comes with Ubuntu 20.04 is 3.3.2-3
> 
> Regards,
> _
> Dave Williams
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2021, 10:27 AM -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org 
> , wrote:
> > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 08:31:35 +0100 on Thursday, March 11, 2021:
> > > On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 14:04 +, David Williams wrote:
> > > > I have recently upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 and since then I have noticed 
> > > > that my full backups are taking much longer than they used to do. I’m 
> > > > only using backuppc to bakup two machines at home. The Ubuntu machine 
> > > > and a Mac laptop. I don’t recall exactly how long the full backups were 
> > > > taking previously, but now they are taking close to 21 hours. The 
> > > > content on both machines hasn’t changed much at all since the upgrade 
> > > > so I was surprised by the increase in time.
> > > > 
> > > > A full backup on the Linux machine is around 892MB. This is the local 
> > > > machine that Backuppc is installed on. The drive that the backups are 
> > > > stored on is an SSD as are most, if not all (sorry can’t remember) of 
> > > > the drives in the Linux box. Backup method is tar.
> > > > 
> > > > A full backup on the Mac laptop is around 700MB. It’s connected to the 
> > > > same router as the Linux machine via ethernet. Backup method is rsync.
> > > > 
> > > > I’m not sure how to troubleshoot this increase in timing so any help 
> > > > would be much appreciated.
> > >  
> > > I saw this happening when small files are backed up.
> >  
> > Unless there is a truly pathological number of small files (think tens
> > if not hundreds of millions), I don't think you can explain a 21 hour
> > backup period.
> > 
> > My Raspberry PI 4 on a home network backs up my Ubuntu 18.04 with
> > 2.7GB and 321K files in under 12 minutes. And I think that is with
> > several simultaneous backups.

Maybe some OS defaults changed at the OS-upgrade?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Full backups taking a very long time

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On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 10:26 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> Sorin Srbu wrote at about 08:31:35 +0100 on Thursday, March 11, 2021:
>  > On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 14:04 +, David Williams wrote:
>  > > I have recently upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 and since then I have noticed 
> that my full backups are taking much longer than they used to do.  I’m only 
> using backuppc to bakup two machines at home.  The Ubuntu machine and a Mac 
> laptop.  I don’t recall exactly how long the full backups were taking 
> previously, but now they are taking close to 21 hours.  The content on both 
> machines hasn’t changed much at all since the upgrade so I was surprised by 
> the increase in time.
>  > > 
>  > > A full backup on the Linux machine is around 892MB.  This is the local 
> machine that Backuppc is installed on.  The drive that the backups are stored 
> on is an SSD as are most, if not all (sorry can’t remember) of the drives in 
> the Linux box.  Backup method is tar.
>  > > 
>  > > A full backup on the Mac laptop is around 700MB.  It’s connected to the 
> same router as the Linux machine via ethernet.  Backup method is rsync.
>  > > 
>  > > I’m not sure how to troubleshoot this increase in timing so any help 
> would be much appreciated.
>  > 
>  > I saw this happening when small files are backed up.
> 
> Unless there is a truly pathological number of small files (think tens
> if not hundreds of millions), I don't think you can explain a 21 hour
> backup period.
> 
> My Raspberry PI 4 on a home network backs up my Ubuntu 18.04 with
> 2.7GB and 321K files in under 12 minutes. And I think that is with
> several simultaneous backups.

I had that particular case going on at my previous work.
Twentyish linux workstations and all having homefolders with tens of
millions of small files.

I resorted to decreasing the amount of concurrently backed up computers for
a small increase in overall speed as well as excluding some folders.

Some clients took hours to complete.
Not 21 hours, but maybe a quarter of that.

We later moved to faster networks and harddrives which helped too.



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Full backups taking a very long time

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On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 14:04 +, David Williams wrote:
> I have recently upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04 and since then I have noticed that 
> my full backups are taking much longer than they used to do.  I’m only using 
> backuppc to bakup two machines at home.  The Ubuntu machine and a Mac laptop. 
>  I don’t recall exactly how long the full backups were taking previously, but 
> now they are taking close to 21 hours.  The content on both machines hasn’t 
> changed much at all since the upgrade so I was surprised by the increase in 
> time.
> 
> A full backup on the Linux machine is around 892MB.  This is the local 
> machine that Backuppc is installed on.  The drive that the backups are stored 
> on is an SSD as are most, if not all (sorry can’t remember) of the drives in 
> the Linux box.  Backup method is tar.
> 
> A full backup on the Mac laptop is around 700MB.  It’s connected to the same 
> router as the Linux machine via ethernet.  Backup method is rsync.
> 
> I’m not sure how to troubleshoot this increase in timing so any help would be 
> much appreciated.

I saw this happening when small files are backed up.




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Re: [BackupPC-users] OT: To top-post or not?

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On Thu, 2021-02-04 at 16:26 -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> --On Thursday, February 04, 2021 11:24 AM +0100 Sorin Srbu 
>  wrote:
> 
> > I'll continue to end-post as before. :-)
> 
> Not end/bottom post! That's really no better than top-posting, because we 
> still have to scroll down through the massive post you're quoting.
> 
> Brutally trim the post you're replying to and INTERLEAVE your reply. So 
> it's trimmed/interleave you want to go for on public mailing lists.

That's kinda' what I meant. Sorry it didn't come through!


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Re: [BackupPC-users] OT: To top-post or not?

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On Wed, 2021-02-03 at 14:51 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:41 PM  wrote:
> > Paul Leyland wrote at about 18:59:24 + on Wednesday, February 3, 2021:
> >  > I have, very reluctantly, been forced to accept top-posting.
> > 
> > Sadly, that has become too true. My solution is that a short answer is
> > easier/simpler to top-post -- but any serious and in-depth dialog is
> > much better off being woven into the earlier posting so that one can
> > see context and not have to rewrite or reread.
> 
> I'd guess that these days enough people use gmail's web interface that
> collapses 'already read' content to ellipses that you can ignore or
> expand that it doesn't really matter whether the new part is at the
> top or bottom.  But yes if you need to reply to different parts it
> should be interwoven.

Ok, thanks all for your insights and comments.
To summarize, it seems like my questions can be answered with "maybe",
"sometimes" and "it depends". :-)

I'll continue to end-post as before. :-)


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[BackupPC-users] OT: To top-post or not?

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Hello all,

Years ago when I last worked daily, and before my timeout, with BPC, the
deal was to not top post. There were usually corrective comments if somebody
forgot him/herself and in no uncertain terms.

Has that changed over the years, and one can now top-post without
infuriating and invoking the wrath of the senior members and list admins on
this list?
Seeing as how most mailers now top-post per default, I thought I'd ask...

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Re: [BackupPC-users] new to BackupPC

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On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 17:09 +, Arnar Þórarinsson wrote:
> Hello all,
> I‘m a new user of BackupPC with some questions (moving away from Amanda).
> OS: CentOS 8.3
> BackupPC version 4.4.0
>  
> I followed the guide on
> https://kifarunix.com/install-and-configure-backuppc-on-centos-8/
> and all looks good but…
> I don‘t like using the root user on the client side for backups, never allow 
> root to login via ssh.
> So how do I generate ssh keys for the backuppc user on the server ? The user 
> backuppc does not own the /var/lib/BackupPC dir so it can‘t generate the keys.

Hello!

Something's fishy there, I followed the same guide recently (although for
Ubuntu) and for me /var/lib/backuppc is owned by backuppc.

Looking at the Backuppc-Ubuntu guide there is a step adding a backuppc user
and setting a homedir as /var/lib/backuppc.
https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Maybe the guide for CentOS needs to be tweaked a bit?
Otherwise, why not just chown the folder to the right permissions?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Sun, 2021-01-10 at 15:08 +, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2021,  several authors wrote:
> 
> > > > Why do people like to install from source instead from packages?
> > > > ... manually installing software ... would be the very last resort.
> 
> Sometimes packages are out of date.  For Debian, they can be
> ridiculously out of date and sometimes there isn't even any maintained
> package at all.  Although I use Debian a lot because it saves me a lot
> of time for things like security updates, much of the time I'll install
> from source because I want a reasonably up-to-date version of whatever
> it is I happen to be installing.
> 
> > > I agree! I am OCD about keeping even my personal systems clean...
> 
> It's subjective.  You stick to the packages, I make notes.  Apparently
> we both think of our systems as 'clean'.

This! -^

Notes. Over the years I've learned to keep notes for most anything I do to
my systems.
A few years back I started using gitlab for that, including but not limited
to scripts, setups and so on. I found it easier to just clone my git repos
when I started using vm's "more seriously" at home instead of scping stuff I
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Imnproving backup speed

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On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 20:30 +0100, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> Hi Sorin,
> 
> On 1/7/21 9:39 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Hello all!
> > 
> > Trying to improve the backup speed with BPC and looked into setting noatime
> > in fstab.
> > 
> > But this article states some backup programs may bork if noatime is set.
> > https://lonesysadmin.net/2013/12/08/gain-30-linux-disk-performance-noatime-nodiratime-relatime/
> > 
> > What will BPC in particular do if noatime is set?
> 
> exactly what it's supposed to do. noatime or at least relatime (or 
> perhaps recently lazytime) is the recommended setting:
> https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/BackupPC.html#Optimizations


A _general_, although related, question:
Would tuned do me some good?

I see that tuned-adm recommends using the profile virtual-guest, but would
maybe performance-throughput be any better?

Do any of you using BackupPC tweak your BPC-servers anything at all with
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Fri, 2021-01-08 at 10:10 +0300, Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users
wrote:
> 07.01.2021 14:39, Sorin Srbu пишет:
> > The pretty pool graphs from BPC 3.3 are missing in BPC 4.4.0.
> > Is this expected or will they show up when a few backups have been done?
> > 
> It is handled by BackupPC_nightly, just wait for a couple of days.

Wonderful, thanks. They are indeed back now!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Imnproving backup speed

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On Fri, 2021-01-08 at 12:07 +1100, Adam Goryachev via BackupPC-users wrote:
> On 8/1/21 06:30, Alexander Kobel wrote:
> > On 1/7/21 9:39 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > > What will BPC in particular do if noatime is set?
> > 
> > exactly what it's supposed to do. noatime or at least relatime (or 
> > perhaps recently lazytime) is the recommended setting:
> > https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/BackupPC.html#Optimizations 
> 
> I think it depends on whether you are applying this setting change on 
> the BPC server, and specifically the BPC pool drive, or if you are 
> applying it to the clients and/or root FS of the BPC server.
> 
> If you have a separate filesystem for the BPC pool, then using this 
> setting on that filesystem will not have any adverse impact, but will 
> likely reduce overhead. Changing this setting elsewhere will have the 
> documented impacts (and you would need to assess the results of those 
> impacts based on your own personal requirements (or provide a lot more 
> information for anyone else to comment on).

The BPC server uses a separate drive for the backup pool, so is pretty much
a schoolbook example.
I went ahead and set relatime for the pool-drive.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 10:05 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
>  > I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed
>  > again with BPC.
>  > https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/
>  > 
>  > Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in 
> use
>  > for BPC v4?
>  > 
>  > Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance!
>  > Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-)

Slow day at work, so opted to run through the above guide.
After a few glitches I now have BPC 4.4.0 running.

One thing stands out though.
The pretty pool graphs from BPC 3.3 are missing in BPC 4.4.0.
Is this expected or will they show up when a few backups have been done?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrade from V3 to V4 - Pool size growing for no obvious reason

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On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 07:48 +, kingswindsor wrote:
> Yes, I'd expect v3 pools to go stay the same or down if anything but they are 
> increasing in size.  And the pool files (either v3 or v4) should not grow 
> anyway- all active hosts are set for compression.   
> 
> The documentation has these bits which are relevant 
> 
> "V3 migration: nothing specific is needed. V4 can browse/view/restore V3 
> backups.
> 
> "When a V4 backup is first done, BackupPC_backupDuplicate is run to duplicate 
> the most recent V3 backup to create a new V4 backup. A "filled" view of the 
> most recent V3 backup is used to create a "filled" V4 backup tree.
> This step could be time consuming, since every file needs to be read (as a V3 
> file) and written as a V4 file. However, the V4 pooling code knows about the 
> V3 pool, so it will move the V3 pool file into the V4 pool. So this 
> duplication process doesn't burn a lot of pool storage space, but every file 
> still needs to be read (to compute the MD5 digest) and "written" (really just 
> matching/linking)."
> On 7 Jan 2021, at 06:25, Sorin Srbu  wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 22:34 +, George King wrote:
> > >  Hi everyone,
> > >  
> > >  Sorry if I'm missing something obvious but would anyone have any ideas 
> > > why my V3 pool is growing (hugely) after upgrading to v4.4.0.  It doesn't 
> > > make sense to me.  Over 3 days it has grown from 219Gb to 383Gb and there 
> > > is only one client that is not compressed (localhost) which has not 
> > > backed up since the upgrade (subject of a different post).   The V3 cPool 
> > > has also grown (16-28Tb, although the graph doesn't seem to show this) 
> > > while the V4 cPool is static at 8.84Tb.  Thanks
> > 
> > I'm speculating a bit now, and trying to remember half-forgotten facts...
> > Isn't this expected when changing from v3 to v4, since two pools are active?
> > 
> > Eventually the v3 pool will be emptied and everything will be moved over to
> > the v4 pool.
> > 
> > IIRC, there should be a tool to convert the v3 pool to v4 and speed things
> > up.

Did the BackupPC_backupDuplicate run finish?
I'm thinking it's not done yet, so backups are still added to the v3 pool
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[BackupPC-users] Imnproving backup speed

[Sorin Srbu]

Hello all!

Trying to improve the backup speed with BPC and looked into setting noatime
in fstab.

But this article states some backup programs may bork if noatime is set.

https://lonesysadmin.net/2013/12/08/gain-30-linux-disk-performance-noatime-nodiratime-relatime/

What will BPC in particular do if noatime is set?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrade from V3 to V4 - Pool size growing for no obvious reason

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On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 22:34 +, George King wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Sorry if I'm missing something obvious but would anyone have any ideas why my 
> V3 pool is growing (hugely) after upgrading to v4.4.0.  It doesn't make sense 
> to me.  Over 3 days it has grown from 219Gb to 383Gb and there is only one 
> client that is not compressed (localhost) which has not backed up since the 
> upgrade (subject of a different post).   The V3 cPool has also grown 
> (16-28Tb, although the graph doesn't seem to show this) while the V4 cPool is 
> static at 8.84Tb.  Thanks

I'm speculating a bit now, and trying to remember half-forgotten facts...
Isn't this expected when changing from v3 to v4, since two pools are active?

Eventually the v3 pool will be emptied and everything will be moved over to
the v4 pool.

IIRC, there should be a tool to convert the v3 pool to v4 and speed things
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 14:59 +0100, Raoul Bhatia wrote:
> Hi Sorin, Jeff, et al.
> 
> I am the one who contributed 
> https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages
> and I am mostly lurking on the mailing list with a few posts here and 
> there.
> 
> Disclaimer: My work was build on top of Benjamin Renard and already 
> received contributions from i.e. Richard Hansen and a Github user named 
> "wwuck".

Cheers, nice to meet you!


> FYI: I am packaging as time permits (job, family) and on the 
> architectures used by myself or explicitly requested.  Thus, there might 
> not be an up-to-date package that fits your environment.
> However, I am definitely *very* happy to accept pull requests and/or 
> other contributions.
> 
> Additionally, others started to build off of my work, i.e. 
> https://launchpad.net/~rhansen/+archive/ubuntu/backuppc (though it seems 
> it hasn't been updated to 4.4 yet?).
> 
> 
> Having said that, there is also an effort underway to officially package 
> BackupPC 4.4 for Debian.
> It was recently submitted and is already available on testing.
> You can find details here https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/backuppc
> (Though I did not yet check the current status/differences)
> 
> Eventually, my plan would be to switch to the official Debian packages 
> (that will also end up in Ubuntu somewhen) and continue my contribution 
> there.
> 
> I would be hopeful that my package would fit your needs.
> Feel free to get back to me with any questions and/or suggestions.

I think the debian packages were the ones I stumbled upon and now have my
eyes on. :-)
Depending on when they filter through to Ubuntu, I might or not roll my own.

It also depends on family, job and time generally for me too.

The Kifarunix's guide seemed pretty complete otherwise.



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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

[Sorin Srbu]

On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 12:28 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> Sorin Srbu wrote at about 16:35:16 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021:
>  > On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote:
>  > > On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
>  > > > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu
>  > > > 18.04 - with code from June 2020.
>  > > > I can send you the packages if you want...
>  > > > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021:
>  > > >   > Hello all!
>  > > >   >
>  > > >   > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where 
> there
>  > > >   > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need 
> for
>  > > >   > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new
>  > > >   > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at 
> home for lab
>  > > >   > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and 
> virtual
>  > > >   > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-)
>  > > 
>  > > I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL 
>  > > 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki 
>  > > pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for 
>  > > redundancy.
>  > 
>  > Found them on 
>  > https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages.
>  > 
>  > So this guy Raoul Bhatia is known on this list and in BackupPC dev circles?
>  > 
>  > And yes, I've picked up some paranoia too during my time away from BPC, and
>  > tend use official stable releases. :-)
>  > 
> 
> I started with Raoul's packages for 4.0.x but they weren't being
> frequently updated. I downloaded them and examined the package code -
> all looked legit.
> 
> So, I used them as the basis for creating my own version with more
> updated code.

Gotcha', thanks.
Will look into rolling my own upgrade eventually it seems.

I think Debian may use a newer stable release of BPC.
Maybe I can find something there. Till now, I've focused on Ubuntu packages
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

[Sorin Srbu]

On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote:
> On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu
> > 18.04 - with code from June 2020.
> > I can send you the packages if you want...
> > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021:
> >   > Hello all!
> >   >
> >   > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there
> >   > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for
> >   > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new
> >   > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home 
> > for lab
> >   > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual
> >   > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-)
> 
> I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL 
> 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki 
> pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for 
> redundancy.

Found them on 
https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages.

So this guy Raoul Bhatia is known on this list and in BackupPC dev circles?

And yes, I've picked up some paranoia too during my time away from BPC, and
tend use official stable releases. :-)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 09:13 -0600, Robert E. Wooden wrote:
> On 1/5/2021 9:05 AM, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> > I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu
> > 18.04 - with code from June 2020.
> > I can send you the packages if you want...
> > Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021:
> >   > Hello all!
> >   >
> >   > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there
> >   > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for
> >   > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new
> >   > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home 
> > for lab
> >   > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual
> >   > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-)
> 
> I was searching for this the other day (because CentOS 8 goes EOL 
> 12-31-2021) and found there are *.deb packages somewhere on the wiki 
> pages. Might be the packages being discussed here, if so, sorry for 
> redundancy.
> 
>   But, I could not locate a PPA.

Really? Must've missed that. I'll have a look, thanks for the hint!

I did find a few PPA's but I can't tell if they're okay to use.I'd consider
using a PPA, if the maintainer was known on eg this list, hence the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

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On Tue, 2021-01-05 at 10:05 -0500, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> I don't have a BPA, but I have compiled my own bpc 4.x for Ubuntu
> 18.04 - with code from June 2020.
> I can send you the packages if you want...
>
> Sorin Srbu wrote at about 15:50:05 +0100 on Tuesday, January 5, 2021:
>  > Hello all!
>  > 
>  > I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there
>  > already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for
>  > BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new
>  > technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for 
> lab
>  > stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual
>  > servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-)
>  > 
>  > Also along the way I left CentOS which has earlier been my goto-preference
>  > and settled with Ubuntu instead. And this is where I need to research some.
>  > 
>  > I am currently running Ubuntu 20.04 on my vm-servers, and BackupPC seems to
>  > be a rather old version 3.3.
>  > 
>  > My initial research showed BPC v4 introduced lots of improvements and
>  > bugfixes, so I'd like to run that.
>  > So, I'm looking for PPA's for use with Ubuntu 20.04.
>  > 
>  > I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed
>  > again with BPC.
>  > https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/
>  > 
>  > Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in 
> use
>  > for BPC v4?
>  > 
>  > Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance!
>  > Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-)

Hello!
That might be an option if I can't find something more "official".
I'll get back to you privately in that case.Thanks.

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[BackupPC-users] Return to BackupPC

[Sorin Srbu]

Hello all!

I've been away from BPC a few years because of changing jobs where there
already were commercial backup systems in place and thus no need for
BackupPC. However, along the road I also picked up a slew of new
technologies and am now running a three-node Proxmox-cluster at home for lab
stuff as well as personal advancement. All these physical and virtual
servers need to be backed up and here I am back with BackupPC. :-)

Also along the way I left CentOS which has earlier been my goto-preference
and settled with Ubuntu instead. And this is where I need to research some.

I am currently running Ubuntu 20.04 on my vm-servers, and BackupPC seems to
be a rather old version 3.3.

My initial research showed BPC v4 introduced lots of improvements and
bugfixes, so I'd like to run that.
So, I'm looking for PPA's for use with Ubuntu 20.04.

I don't want top build my own for now, at least not until I get up to speed
again with BPC.
https://kifarunix.com/install-and-setup-backuppc-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/

Are there any well-known, if untrusted, PPA's known here on the list, in use
for BPC v4?

Hints appreciated and as usual thanks in advance!
Feels kinda' good to be back with BPC. :-)

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC writes to disk very slow

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ari Sovijärvi 
> Sent: den 2 december 2018 16:46
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC writes to disk very slow
> 
> XFS has been a bit hit and miss for me, I know many swear by it, but
> where I've tested it, I've hit all kinds of random problems to a degree
> that I haven't bothered with it any more.

Thank you. 
I've seen similar problems too and I also don't bother with XFS anymore on my 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Post-BackupPC_migrateV3toV4 work?

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> -Original Message-
> From: G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: den 15 november 2018 13:36
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: G.W. Haywood 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Post-BackupPC_migrateV3toV4 work?
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> 
> > .. I have a vague memory ..
> 
> Perhaps see the thread entitled "turn off PoolV3Enabled"?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

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Hello and thanks!

 

I’ll check it out!

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users  
Sent: den 4 november 2018 00:29
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

It's good that you found a way to make it work.

 

I did commit a change (part1 
<https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/commit/ee6cbe56da89cc936529ba231889f373059eb8d9>
  and part2 
<https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/commit/8c0244a0e497f8f025af974778f0c33d499ff6b0>
 ) that adds a new config parameter $Conf{EMailAdminSubject}, so that the admin 
email subject can be set.  If empty it defaults to the current values.


Craig

 

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:06 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

Never mind. I got it working.
Due to general mindset and misaligned focus I totally missed that all email 
headers sent from our BPC-servers actually already included the hostname... I 
can use that to filter the mail in Outlook.

PocketKnife Peek for Outlook made all clear for me.

 

Sorry for wasting the bandwidth on this list.
I’ll be quiet now.

 

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From: Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > 
Sent: den 2 november 2018 07:53
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 
mailto:backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

Hi,

 

Adding a custom text line to $Conf{EMailHeaders} makes that text end up in the 
email body.
Is there a way to add it to the header instead together with all other custom 
X-somethingorother-fields?

 

This might maybe be a question for a sendmail list as thus off-topic here.
Should this be the case I apologize.

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users mailto:backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 18:27
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 
mailto:backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Cc: Craig Barratt mailto:cbarr...@users.sourceforge.net> >
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

Sorin,

 

Unfortunately the Subject field for admin emails is hardcoded.

 

However, $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} can be set and that is used for the "To" 
field.  Could you add some tag there that allows you to filter or distinguish 
the emails?

 

You can also set $Conf{EMailHeaders} to add additional headers, but I don't see 
a way in gmail to filter based on arbitrary headers.

 

Perhaps I should make that subject line a config parameter...

Craig

 

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:26 AM Sorin Srbu < <mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> 
sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> wrote:

Hi all,

I only have the one support mail address and need a way to distinguish from 
which BPC-server the message is coming from.

Is there a way to add a tag to the subject line of the administrative emails 
from BackupPC, eg subject text "[BPC-12] BackupPC administrative attention 
needed"?

I see there is for
EMailNoBackupEverSubj
EMailNoBackupRecentSubj
EMailOutlookBackupSubj

But no obvious way for those general messages, unless I'm missing something 
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> -Original Message-
> From:  <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> 
> supp...@foo.com>
> Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 01:30
> To: ILK support < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com>
> Subject: BackupPC administrative attention needed
>
> The following directories are bogus and are not being used by
> BackupPC.  This typically happens when PCs are removed from the
> backup list.  If you don't need any old backups from these PCs you
> should remove these directories.  If there are machines on this
> list that should be backed up then there is a problem with the
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

[Sorin Srbu]

Never mind. I got it working.
Due to general mindset and misaligned focus I totally missed that all email 
headers sent from our BPC-servers actually already included the hostname... I 
can use that to filter the mail in Outlook.

PocketKnife Peek for Outlook made all clear for me.

 

Sorry for wasting the bandwidth on this list.
I’ll be quiet now.

 

Thanks all for your suggestions and assistance!

 

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From: Sorin Srbu  
Sent: den 2 november 2018 07:53
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

Hi,

 

Adding a custom text line to $Conf{EMailHeaders} makes that text end up in the 
email body.
Is there a way to add it to the header instead together with all other custom 
X-somethingorother-fields?

 

This might maybe be a question for a sendmail list as thus off-topic here.
Should this be the case I apologize.

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users  
Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 18:27
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

Sorin,

 

Unfortunately the Subject field for admin emails is hardcoded.

 

However, $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} can be set and that is used for the "To" 
field.  Could you add some tag there that allows you to filter or distinguish 
the emails?

 

You can also set $Conf{EMailHeaders} to add additional headers, but I don't see 
a way in gmail to filter based on arbitrary headers.

 

Perhaps I should make that subject line a config parameter...

Craig

 

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:26 AM Sorin Srbu < <mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> 
sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> wrote:

Hi all,

I only have the one support mail address and need a way to distinguish from 
which BPC-server the message is coming from.

Is there a way to add a tag to the subject line of the administrative emails 
from BackupPC, eg subject text "[BPC-12] BackupPC administrative attention 
needed"?

I see there is for
EMailNoBackupEverSubj
EMailNoBackupRecentSubj
EMailOutlookBackupSubj

But no obvious way for those general messages, unless I'm missing something 
here?

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> -Original Message-
> From:  <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> 
> supp...@foo.com>
> Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 01:30
> To: ILK support < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com>
> Subject: BackupPC administrative attention needed
>
> The following directories are bogus and are not being used by
> BackupPC.  This typically happens when PCs are removed from the
> backup list.  If you don't need any old backups from these PCs you
> should remove these directories.  If there are machines on this
> list that should be backed up then there is a problem with the
> hosts file:
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/anakem18
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/delta
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi,



Adding a custom text line to $Conf{EMailHeaders} makes that text end up in the 
email body.
Is there a way to add it to the header instead together with all other custom 
X-somethingorother-fields?



This might maybe be a question for a sendmail list as thus off-topic here.
Should this be the case I apologize.



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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users 
Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 18:27
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention 
needed)



Sorin,



Unfortunately the Subject field for admin emails is hardcoded.



However, $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} can be set and that is used for the "To" 
field.  Could you add some tag there that allows you to filter or distinguish 
the emails?



You can also set $Conf{EMailHeaders} to add additional headers, but I don't 
see a way in gmail to filter based on arbitrary headers.



Perhaps I should make that subject line a config parameter...

Craig



On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:26 AM Sorin Srbu < <mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> 
sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> wrote:

Hi all,

I only have the one support mail address and need a way to distinguish from
which BPC-server the message is coming from.

Is there a way to add a tag to the subject line of the administrative emails
from BackupPC, eg subject text "[BPC-12] BackupPC administrative attention
needed"?

I see there is for
EMailNoBackupEverSubj
EMailNoBackupRecentSubj
EMailOutlookBackupSubj

But no obvious way for those general messages, unless I'm missing something
here?

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> -Original Message-
> From:  <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> 
> supp...@foo.com>
> Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 01:30
> To: ILK support < <mailto:supp...@foo.com> supp...@foo.com>
> Subject: BackupPC administrative attention needed
>
> The following directories are bogus and are not being used by
> BackupPC.  This typically happens when PCs are removed from the
> backup list.  If you don't need any old backups from these PCs you
> should remove these directories.  If there are machines on this
> list that should be backed up then there is a problem with the
> hosts file:
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/anakem18
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/delta
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi,



Nope, but I will now.



Thanks!

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users 
Sent: den 1 november 2018 21:05
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention 
needed)



Have you tried adding a double-quoted unique name to the admin user email, eg:



$Conf{EMailAdminUserName} = '"BackupPC Host XYZ" mailto:myad...@mydomain.com> >'';



That will likely only work on certain mail servers.


Craig



On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:49 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

> -Original Message-
> From: Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> >
> Sent: den 1 november 2018 13:43
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:us...@lists.sourceforge.net> >
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server
> administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention
> needed)
>
> > Most sane mail servers will accept
> >
> > real.user+some_tag_or_ot...@example.com 
> > <mailto:real.user%2bsome_tag_or_ot...@example.com>
> >
> > as an alias for
> >
> > real.u...@example.com <mailto:real.u...@example.com>
> >
> > and deliver the message to the mailbox for real.u...@example.com 
> > <mailto:real.u...@example.com> .
> >
> > See for example
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Sub-addressing
> >
> > If your mail server is *not* sane, well...
>
> It is not my mail server.
> I'll give your suggestion a go and see if it works.
> Thanks.

Nah, it fails. Thanks though.

I'll look into the mail headers track instead and see if I can get it to do
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

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> -Original Message-
> From: Sorin Srbu 
> Sent: den 1 november 2018 13:43
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server
> administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention
> needed)
> 
> > Most sane mail servers will accept
> >
> > real.user+some_tag_or_ot...@example.com
> >
> > as an alias for
> >
> > real.u...@example.com
> >
> > and deliver the message to the mailbox for real.u...@example.com.
> >
> > See for example
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Sub-addressing
> >
> > If your mail server is *not* sane, well...
> 
> It is not my mail server.
> I'll give your suggestion a go and see if it works.
> Thanks.

Nah, it fails. Thanks though.

I'll look into the mail headers track instead and see if I can get it to do
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

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> -Original Message-
> From: G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: den 1 november 2018 13:39
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: G.W. Haywood 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server
> administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention
> needed)
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> 
> > Tagging the $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} won?t work for me, the central
> > smtp-server bounces it if I choose something else than a real
> > existing mail address unfortunately.
> 
> Most sane mail servers will accept
> 
> real.user+some_tag_or_ot...@example.com
> 
> as an alias for
> 
> real.u...@example.com
> 
> and deliver the message to the mailbox for real.u...@example.com.
> 
> See for example
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Sub-addressing
> 
> If your mail server is *not* sane, well...

It is not my mail server.
I'll give your suggestion a go and see if it works.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi and thanks for the feedback!

 

Tagging the $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} won’t work for me, the central 
smtp-server bounces it if I choose something else than a real existing mail 
address unfortunately.

 

I’ve been thinking about the headers a bit since posting, I’ll look into that 
for starters.

 

In the long run, making the subject line a configurable parameter sounds like a 
very good idea though!
Could you please?

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users  
Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 18:27
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server 
administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

 

Sorin,

 

Unfortunately the Subject field for admin emails is hardcoded.

 

However, $Conf{EMailAdminUserName} can be set and that is used for the "To" 
field.  Could you add some tag there that allows you to filter or distinguish 
the emails?

 

You can also set $Conf{EMailHeaders} to add additional headers, but I don't see 
a way in gmail to filter based on arbitrary headers.

 

Perhaps I should make that subject line a config parameter...

Craig

 

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 12:26 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

Hi all,

I only have the one support mail address and need a way to distinguish from 
which BPC-server the message is coming from.

Is there a way to add a tag to the subject line of the administrative emails 
from BackupPC, eg subject text "[BPC-12] BackupPC administrative attention 
needed"?

I see there is for
EMailNoBackupEverSubj
EMailNoBackupRecentSubj
EMailOutlookBackupSubj

But no obvious way for those general messages, unless I'm missing something 
here?

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> Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 01:30
> To: ILK support mailto:supp...@foo.com> >
> Subject: BackupPC administrative attention needed
>
> The following directories are bogus and are not being used by
> BackupPC.  This typically happens when PCs are removed from the
> backup list.  If you don't need any old backups from these PCs you
> should remove these directories.  If there are machines on this
> list that should be backed up then there is a problem with the
> hosts file:
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/anakem18
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/delta
>
> Regards,
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[BackupPC-users] How to distinguish from which BPC-server administrative emails are coming (Was: BackupPC administrative attention needed)

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi all,

I only have the one support mail address and need a way to distinguish from 
which BPC-server the message is coming from.

Is there a way to add a tag to the subject line of the administrative emails 
from BackupPC, eg subject text "[BPC-12] BackupPC administrative attention 
needed"?

I see there is for
EMailNoBackupEverSubj
EMailNoBackupRecentSubj
EMailOutlookBackupSubj

But no obvious way for those general messages, unless I'm missing something 
here?

--
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> -Original Message-
> From: supp...@foo.com 
> Sent: den 31 oktober 2018 01:30
> To: ILK support 
> Subject: BackupPC administrative attention needed
>
> The following directories are bogus and are not being used by
> BackupPC.  This typically happens when PCs are removed from the
> backup list.  If you don't need any old backups from these PCs you
> should remove these directories.  If there are machines on this
> list that should be backed up then there is a problem with the
> hosts file:
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/anakem18
>   - /var/lib/BackupPC//pc/delta
>
> Regards,
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status info after upgrade

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> -Original Message-
> From: Sorin Srbu 
> Sent: den 25 oktober 2018 07:29
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] Status info after upgrade
> 
> Hello again,
> 
> After the upgrade to BPC 4.2.1 the General Server Information and
> specifically Other info started showing numbers like this:
> 
> Pool is 721.67+250.21GiB comprising 2020177+1335190 files and 16512+4369
> directories (as of 2018-10-25 01:44),
> Pool hashing gives 0+376 repeated files with longest chain 0+6,
> Nightly cleanup removed 344+0 files of size 4.59+0.00GiB (around
2018-10-25
> 01:44)
> 
> See the "721.67+250.21GiB" for example?
> 
> What's with the plus-sign?

Ah, never mind!
Just realized it's the v3 + v4 pools.

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[Sorin Srbu]

Hello again,

After the upgrade to BPC 4.2.1 the General Server Information and
specifically Other info started showing numbers like this:

Pool is 721.67+250.21GiB comprising 2020177+1335190 files and 16512+4369
directories (as of 2018-10-25 01:44),
Pool hashing gives 0+376 repeated files with longest chain 0+6,
Nightly cleanup removed 344+0 files of size 4.59+0.00GiB (around 2018-10-25
01:44)

See the "721.67+250.21GiB" for example?

What's with the plus-sign?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird

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> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: den 24 oktober 2018 19:35
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: Alexander Moisseev 
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird
> 
> On 24.10.18 9:42, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Hmm... I don't see any difference.
> >
> > Am in the right spot; /usr/share/BackupPC/html/sorttable.js?
> > I can't find any other sorttable.js.
> >
> > The Chrome I use is Version 70.0.3538.67 (Official Build) (64-bit)
> >
> That is strange. It works for me on exactly the same Chrome version.
> This file may be cached on server or client side. Can you restart http
daemon
> and reload the page with Shift+F5 or Ctrl+Shift+R ?

Did all that yesterday.
Did it again, and now it worked, doh!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird

[Sorin Srbu]

Hmm... I don't see any difference.

Am in the right spot; /usr/share/BackupPC/html/sorttable.js?
I can't find any other sorttable.js.

The Chrome I use is Version 70.0.3538.67 (Official Build) (64-bit)

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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: den 24 oktober 2018 08:17
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird
> 
> On it.
> 
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> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alexander Moisseev via BackupPC-users  > us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Sent: den 23 oktober 2018 16:10
> > To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Cc: Alexander Moisseev 
> > Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird
> >
> > On 23.10.2018 9:19, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > > Ah, I might have found the problem.
> > >
> > > I discovered the below using Google Chrome.
> > > On a hunch I tried Firefox.
> > >
> > > Firefox sorts properly. Seems this is a web browser problem then.
> > >
> >
> > Sorin, would you test the fix?
> >
> >
> https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/commit/a81dd75ceb498ffc9b1ba19
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On it.

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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: den 23 oktober 2018 16:10
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> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird
> 
> On 23.10.2018 9:19, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Ah, I might have found the problem.
> >
> > I discovered the below using Google Chrome.
> > On a hunch I tried Firefox.
> >
> > Firefox sorts properly. Seems this is a web browser problem then.
> >
> 
> Sorin, would you test the fix?
> 
> https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/commit/a81dd75ceb498ffc9b1ba19
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[BackupPC-users] Upgrade guide for BackupPC 4.2.1

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi all,

After upgrading the first BPC-server I used my notes to upgrade another
CentOS 5-based BPC-server as well as the final CentOS 7-server.
Maybe this can help others avoid some potentially bad situations.

Find it here:
<https://www.srbu.se/index.php?option=com_content=article=201:upgrad
ing-backuppc-to-v4-2-1=8=121=en>

A note regarding CentOS 5 (before someone objects to using it!):
CentOS 5 had its EOL 2017-03-31, but we still use it in a highly locked down
environment with no public access to start with.
Since these particular servers run backups from instrument computers
collecting raw data in a lab, a migration isn't taken on lightly. We need to
save this data for at least ten years.
If I figure out how to safely migrate this data to our virtualized CentOS
7-based BPC-server, I'll do that. As well as also documenting it for
posterity. :-)
 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird

[Sorin Srbu]

Ah, I might have found the problem.

I discovered the below using Google Chrome.
On a hunch I tried Firefox.

Firefox sorts properly. Seems this is a web browser problem then.

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> Subject: Host summary page, Sorting is weird
> 
> Hi all again,
> 
> Just noticed, when I sort the table in the web-gui on the Host Summary
page
> on either of the columns with numbers, the sorting is pretty much off.
> 
> Example, Full size (GB), sort on biggest backup at the top gives me this:
> 690.10
> 493.85
> 1446.27
> 1.27
> 0.39
> 0.35
> 0.06
> 
> Example, Speed (MB/s), sort on lowest speed at the top gives me this:
> 48.76
> 4.20
> 15.64
> 15.17
> 141.13
> 137.72
> 10.22
> 
> 
> Isn't this rather weird?
> Or is there a setting I might've missed?
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[BackupPC-users] Host summary page, Sorting is weird

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi all again,

Just noticed, when I sort the table in the web-gui on the Host Summary page
on either of the columns with numbers, the sorting is pretty much off.

Example, Full size (GB), sort on biggest backup at the top gives me this:
690.10
493.85
1446.27
1.27
0.39
0.35
0.06

Example, Speed (MB/s), sort on lowest speed at the top gives me this:
48.76
4.20
15.64
15.17
141.13
137.72
10.22


Isn't this rather weird?
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

[Sorin Srbu]

Super, thanks again!



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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users 
Sent: den 23 oktober 2018 04:08
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1



I just pushed the change 
<https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/commit/11e025b8df164634617bbff920bf2410638acfca>
 
I mentioned in (1).  I confirmed that in perl 5.28, version() gives the error 
you mentioned due to the trailing period (while perl 5.22 does not).



Craig



On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:08 AM Craig Barratt mailto:cbarr...@users.sourceforge.net> > wrote:

What are the versions of rsync_bpc and perl are you running?  Specifically, 
what's the output from



rsync_bpc --version

perl -v



I assume rsync_bpc is 3.1.2.beta0.  For some reason the "version" package 
complains about a trailing ".", perhaps in only newer versions of perl (on 
perl 5.22.1 it works fine).



Here are two options:



1) change this line

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );

to

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+?)(\.beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );



2) installing rsync_bpc 3.0.9 instead.  The latest release is here 
<https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc/releases/tag/3.0.9.12> .


Craig



On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:10 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

Hi all,

Finally found time to upgrade an old BackupPC install from v3.3.1 to the
latest v4.

I read up on the prerequisites, gotchas' etc and installed BackupPC-XS-0.57,
rsync-bpc 0.01 and version 0.9924 using cpan.
I've never used cpan before, but I didn't get any errors here. Installs
should be fine.
After that, I continued with installing the latest BPC 4.2.1 and it went w/o
a hitch.

The end remarks after BPC-installation mentioned restarting httpd so I did
that.
I also restarted the backuppc daemon for good measure

And this is where the problem started, I got this:
"Starting BackupPC: Invalid version format (trailing decimal) at
/usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 125"

The lines in /usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC is about this:

$version = $1 if ( $output =~
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );
if ( $version eq "unknown" || version->parse($1) <
version->parse($PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc}) ) {
print(STDERR "BackupPC: rsync_bpc at $Conf{RsyncBackupPCPath} needs
to be upgraded (got version $1; need >= $PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc});
exiting in 30s\n");
sleep(30);
exit(1);
}


I've no idea how to proceed. I can't find any information pertinent to the
error message.
Is version too old? Too new? Something else?

Any help appreciated!
Thanks.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

[Sorin Srbu]

Worked like a charm.
I’m now running BPC 4.1.2!


Thanks Craig for both support and this awesome piece of software!

 

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From: Sorin Srbu  
Sent: den 23 oktober 2018 07:41
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

 

Hi and thanks,

 

[root@mach012 ~]# rsync_bpc --version

rsync_bpc  version 3.1.2.beta0  protocol version 31

 

[root@mach012 ~]# perl -v

This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i386-linux-thread-multi

 

 

Was this a known bug then?

 

I’ll try 1) first and get back here on the list with the result.

Thanks for the prompt reply!

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users  
Sent: den 22 oktober 2018 19:09
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

 

What are the versions of rsync_bpc and perl are you running?  Specifically, 
what's the output from

 

rsync_bpc --version

perl -v

 

I assume rsync_bpc is 3.1.2.beta0.  For some reason the "version" package 
complains about a trailing ".", perhaps in only newer versions of perl (on perl 
5.22.1 it works fine).

 

Here are two options:

 

1) change this line

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );

to

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+?)(\.beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );

 

2) installing rsync_bpc 3.0.9 instead.  The latest release is here 
<https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc/releases/tag/3.0.9.12> .


Craig

 

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:10 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

Hi all,

Finally found time to upgrade an old BackupPC install from v3.3.1 to the
latest v4.

I read up on the prerequisites, gotchas' etc and installed BackupPC-XS-0.57,
rsync-bpc 0.01 and version 0.9924 using cpan.
I've never used cpan before, but I didn't get any errors here. Installs
should be fine.
After that, I continued with installing the latest BPC 4.2.1 and it went w/o
a hitch.

The end remarks after BPC-installation mentioned restarting httpd so I did
that.
I also restarted the backuppc daemon for good measure

And this is where the problem started, I got this:
"Starting BackupPC: Invalid version format (trailing decimal) at
/usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 125"

The lines in /usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC is about this:

$version = $1 if ( $output =~
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );
if ( $version eq "unknown" || version->parse($1) <
version->parse($PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc}) ) {
print(STDERR "BackupPC: rsync_bpc at $Conf{RsyncBackupPCPath} needs
to be upgraded (got version $1; need >= $PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc});
exiting in 30s\n");
sleep(30);
exit(1);
}


I've no idea how to proceed. I can't find any information pertinent to the
error message.
Is version too old? Too new? Something else?

Any help appreciated!
Thanks.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi and thanks,

 

[root@mach012 ~]# rsync_bpc --version

rsync_bpc  version 3.1.2.beta0  protocol version 31

 

[root@mach012 ~]# perl -v

This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i386-linux-thread-multi

 

 

Was this a known bug then?

 

I’ll try 1) first and get back here on the list with the result.

Thanks for the prompt reply!

 

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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users  
Sent: den 22 oktober 2018 19:09
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

 

What are the versions of rsync_bpc and perl are you running?  Specifically, 
what's the output from

 

rsync_bpc --version

perl -v

 

I assume rsync_bpc is 3.1.2.beta0.  For some reason the "version" package 
complains about a trailing ".", perhaps in only newer versions of perl (on perl 
5.22.1 it works fine).

 

Here are two options:

 

1) change this line

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );

to

$version = $1 if ( $output =~ 
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+?)(\.beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );

 

2) installing rsync_bpc 3.0.9 instead.  The latest release is here 
<https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc/releases/tag/3.0.9.12> .


Craig

 

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:10 AM Sorin Srbu mailto:sorin.s...@ilk.uu.se> > wrote:

Hi all,

Finally found time to upgrade an old BackupPC install from v3.3.1 to the
latest v4.

I read up on the prerequisites, gotchas' etc and installed BackupPC-XS-0.57,
rsync-bpc 0.01 and version 0.9924 using cpan.
I've never used cpan before, but I didn't get any errors here. Installs
should be fine.
After that, I continued with installing the latest BPC 4.2.1 and it went w/o
a hitch.

The end remarks after BPC-installation mentioned restarting httpd so I did
that.
I also restarted the backuppc daemon for good measure

And this is where the problem started, I got this:
"Starting BackupPC: Invalid version format (trailing decimal) at
/usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 125"

The lines in /usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC is about this:

$version = $1 if ( $output =~
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );
if ( $version eq "unknown" || version->parse($1) <
version->parse($PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc}) ) {
print(STDERR "BackupPC: rsync_bpc at $Conf{RsyncBackupPCPath} needs
to be upgraded (got version $1; need >= $PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc});
exiting in 30s\n");
sleep(30);
exit(1);
}


I've no idea how to proceed. I can't find any information pertinent to the
error message.
Is version too old? Too new? Something else?

Any help appreciated!
Thanks.


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[BackupPC-users] Upgrading BPC from v3.3 to v4.1

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi all,

Finally found time to upgrade an old BackupPC install from v3.3.1 to the
latest v4.

I read up on the prerequisites, gotchas' etc and installed BackupPC-XS-0.57,
rsync-bpc 0.01 and version 0.9924 using cpan.
I've never used cpan before, but I didn't get any errors here. Installs
should be fine.
After that, I continued with installing the latest BPC 4.2.1 and it went w/o
a hitch.

The end remarks after BPC-installation mentioned restarting httpd so I did
that.
I also restarted the backuppc daemon for good measure

And this is where the problem started, I got this:
"Starting BackupPC: Invalid version format (trailing decimal) at
/usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC line 125"

The lines in /usr/share/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC is about this:

$version = $1 if ( $output =~
/rsync_bpc\s+version\s+([\d.]+)(beta\d+)?\s+protocol/ );
if ( $version eq "unknown" || version->parse($1) <
version->parse($PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc}) ) {
print(STDERR "BackupPC: rsync_bpc at $Conf{RsyncBackupPCPath} needs
to be upgraded (got version $1; need >= $PackageVersion->{rsync_bpc});
exiting in 30s\n");
sleep(30);
exit(1);
}


I've no idea how to proceed. I can't find any information pertinent to the
error message.
Is version too old? Too new? Something else?

Any help appreciated!
Thanks.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

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From: Jamie Burchell [mailto:ja...@ib3.co.uk]
Sent: den 14 december 2017 11:00
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of 
backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)



Hi,



https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/hobbes1069/BackupPC/




Kind regards,

Jamie

From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se 
<mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se> ]
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backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)



Hi,



Do we know of any repos for RHEL/CentOS that usually package the latest BPC 
versions like this one?



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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users 
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Sent: den 13 december 2017 20:39
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of 
backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)



There were a couple of bugs in rsync-bpc-3.0.9.9 that are fixed in a newly 
released rsync-bpc-3.0.9.11 
<https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc/releases/tag/3.0.9.11> .



If you have installed rsync-bpc-3.0.9.9 or rsync-bpc-3.0.9.10, please upgrade 
to rsync-bpc-3.0.9.11.


Craig



On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Craig Barratt <cbarr...@users.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:cbarr...@users.sourceforge.net> > wrote:

BackupPC <https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/releases/tag/4.1.5>  4.1.5 has 
been released on Github.



New versions of BackupPC-XS 0.57 
<https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc-xs/releases/tag/0.57>  and rsync-bpc 
<https://github.com/backuppc/rsync-bpc/releases/tag/3.0.9.9>  3.0.9.9 have 
also been released.  BackupPC 4.1.5 requires BackupPC-XS 0.57.



The cumulative changes including 4.1.4 
<https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/releases/tag/4.1.4>  (released last week 
but not announced) are listed below.  Upgrading is strongly recommended.



Thanks to the multiple contributions and debugging help.



Enjoy!


Craig



#

# Version 4.1.5, 3 Dec 2017

#



* Changed required BackupPC::XS version from 0.56 to 0.57.



* bin/BackupPC_dump now updates inodeLast for share being backed up.



* bin/BackupPC_refCountUpdate: inodeLast is checked and updated during fsck;

  needs BackupPC::XS 0.57.



#

# Version 4.1.4, 25 Nov 2017

#



Merged pull requests #99, #121, #125, #131, #133, #134, #137, #148, #149, #150

  #151, #152, #153, #155, #157, #167



* lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Smb.pm: made pipeSMB non-blocking to avoid a

  reported deadlock when BackupPC's select() returns ok for reading,

  but there are no bytes to read from the client tar's log/stdout

  output.  Parallel change to lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Tar.pm in 4.1.3.



* bin/BackupPC_tarCreate and bin/BackupPC_zipCreate: untaint the host name

  so they work with setuid under CGI; fixes empty tar or zip files

  downloaded via CGI interface (fixes issue #156)



* bin/BackupPC: fixed BackupPC::XS min version checking and error message,

  from @moisseev (#152)



* bin/BackupPC: added more detailed startup information (perl and BackupPC

  version) to log, from @moisseev (#157)



* bin/BackupPC_rrdUpdate: fixed empty pools hiding from @moisseev (#167)



* lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Smb.pm: now ignores additional debug messages from

  smbclient, and flags lines in the XferLOG it doesn't recognize.



* lib/BackupPC/CGI/Browse.pm: default display now has the last, rather

  than first, share opened.



* Replaced submit with button so that Enter doesn't activate the Delete

  button.  Fixes issue #161, reported by Philippe-M.



* removed commented-out settings for some ftp args (eg, port#) in

  lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Ftp.pm; reported by Adam W.



* bin/BackupPC_backupDelete: only print delta counts if LogLevel is >= 5



* bin/BackupPC_tarExtract: fix existing file size count and size



* lib/BackupPC/CGI/EditConfig.pm: fixed masking of subheadings in

  config editor.



* config/config.pl <http://config.pl> : add

Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Sorin Srbu]

 

From: Daniel Berteaud [mailto:dan...@firewall-services.com] 
Sent: den 14 december 2017 08:51
To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of 
backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

 

 

 

Le 14/12/2017 à 08:03, Sorin Srbu a écrit :

Hi,

 

Do we know of any repos for RHEL/CentOS that usually package the latest BPC 
versions like this one?


I do. For el6 and el7

http://repo.firewall-services.com/centos/

 

 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)

[Sorin Srbu]

Hi,



Do we know of any repos for RHEL/CentOS that usually package the latest BPC 
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From: Craig Barratt via BackupPC-users 
[mailto:backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: den 13 december 2017 20:39
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 
; Developers discussion 
; 
backuppc-annou...@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Craig Barratt 
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC 4.1.5 released (plus new versions of 
backuppc-xs and rsync-bpc)



There were a couple of bugs in rsync-bpc-3.0.9.9 that are fixed in a newly 
released rsync-bpc-3.0.9.11 
 .



If you have installed rsync-bpc-3.0.9.9 or rsync-bpc-3.0.9.10, please upgrade 
to rsync-bpc-3.0.9.11.


Craig



On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Craig Barratt  > wrote:

BackupPC   4.1.5 has 
been released on Github.



New versions of BackupPC-XS 0.57 
  and rsync-bpc 
  3.0.9.9 have 
also been released.  BackupPC 4.1.5 requires BackupPC-XS 0.57.



The cumulative changes including 4.1.4 
  (released last week 
but not announced) are listed below.  Upgrading is strongly recommended.



Thanks to the multiple contributions and debugging help.



Enjoy!


Craig



#

# Version 4.1.5, 3 Dec 2017

#



* Changed required BackupPC::XS version from 0.56 to 0.57.



* bin/BackupPC_dump now updates inodeLast for share being backed up.



* bin/BackupPC_refCountUpdate: inodeLast is checked and updated during fsck;

  needs BackupPC::XS 0.57.



#

# Version 4.1.4, 25 Nov 2017

#



Merged pull requests #99, #121, #125, #131, #133, #134, #137, #148, #149, #150

  #151, #152, #153, #155, #157, #167



* lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Smb.pm: made pipeSMB non-blocking to avoid a

  reported deadlock when BackupPC's select() returns ok for reading,

  but there are no bytes to read from the client tar's log/stdout

  output.  Parallel change to lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Tar.pm in 4.1.3.



* bin/BackupPC_tarCreate and bin/BackupPC_zipCreate: untaint the host name

  so they work with setuid under CGI; fixes empty tar or zip files

  downloaded via CGI interface (fixes issue #156)



* bin/BackupPC: fixed BackupPC::XS min version checking and error message,

  from @moisseev (#152)



* bin/BackupPC: added more detailed startup information (perl and BackupPC

  version) to log, from @moisseev (#157)



* bin/BackupPC_rrdUpdate: fixed empty pools hiding from @moisseev (#167)



* lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Smb.pm: now ignores additional debug messages from

  smbclient, and flags lines in the XferLOG it doesn't recognize.



* lib/BackupPC/CGI/Browse.pm: default display now has the last, rather

  than first, share opened.



* Replaced submit with button so that Enter doesn't activate the Delete

  button.  Fixes issue #161, reported by Philippe-M.



* removed commented-out settings for some ftp args (eg, port#) in

  lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Ftp.pm; reported by Adam W.



* bin/BackupPC_backupDelete: only print delta counts if LogLevel is >= 5



* bin/BackupPC_tarExtract: fix existing file size count and size



* lib/BackupPC/CGI/EditConfig.pm: fixed masking of subheadings in

  config editor.



* config/config.pl  : added -mSMB3 to 
$Conf{SmbClientIncrCmd} and

  $Conf{SmbClientRestoreCmd}, from @SvenBunge (#99)



* lib/BackupPC/Xfer/Rsync.pm: improved cleanup of orphan rsyncTmp files



* In bin/BackupPC_dump, added "share" to __bpc_progress_state__ message so

  it is 'backup share "$shareName"'.  Patch #150 by @guestisp (issue #143)



* added share name to log message in lib/BackupPC/CGI/Restore.pm for tar

  and zip restore.



* makeDist: fixed exit code from @moisseev (#153)



* Added Travis CI configuration from @moisseev (#155) and enabled travis



* Replaced "Homepage" with "Github" in config.pl   and 
configure.pl   from

  @moisseev (#121)



* Spelling fixes, mainly in comments from @ka7 (#125).



* Fixed comment in config.pl   (zh_CH -> zh_CN) from @patch 
(#131)



* Fixed German translations from @mainboarder (#133, #134)



* Fixed minor comment typo in config.pl   from @pbe-axelor 
(#137)



* Fixed comments in systemd/README from @schuetzm (#138)



* Fixed Italian translations from 

Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc & Win2016

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> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Vaughan [mailto:cavaug...@gmail.com]
> Sent: den 30 november 2017 19:25
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc & Win2016
> 
> > Could it be that the first backup takes a long time to hash (or
whatever)
> > the file list before the backup-procedure actually starts?
> >
> > Is the firewall on the Win-server setup to allow incoming connections
from
> > your BPC-server?
> >
> > FWIW, I've never been able to backup our AD-connected Windows
> 2000/2008/2012
> > servers, unless I've used DeltaCopy.
> > Maybe Windows 2016 is the same.
> >
> > More info about DeltaCopy:
> > http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp
> >
> > HTH.
> 
> Right now should only be backing up one directory which has basically
> nothing in it.
> As for the firewall, no. I can do rsync from the BPC server and get a
> list of all the stuff it should backup. Just did a manual rsync and it
> copies everything over.
> I've done the same setup for Windows 2000 and 2008 servers. Never an
> issue. But now. something is going on and can't figure it out.
> I saw stuff on DetlaCopy and would rather not go that route yet.

When you say "basically nothing in it", do you mean it's actually completely
empty?
BPC doesn't backup empty shares, I've seen it happen over here.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Mark backup for premenent retention

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> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Bright [mailto:nick.bri...@valnet.net]
> Sent: den 28 november 2017 17:47
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Mark backup for premenent retention
> 
> On 11/28/2017 10:38 AM, Nick Bright wrote:
> > Is there a way to mark a backup point (in this case, it's an
> > incremental) so that the backup (and all backups it depends on) are
> > preeminently retained?
> >
> > e.g. for a server that's failed or been decommissioned?
> >
> I may have already done so by disabling backups with
> $Conf{BackupsDisable} = 0;
> 
> "Disable all full and incremental backups. These settings are useful for
> a client that is no longer being backed up (eg: a retired machine), but
> you wish to keep the last backups available for browsing or restoring to
> other machines."
> 
> Sounds like that does what I'm looking for, and I just skimmed over the
> part about "keep the last backups available". I'm interpreting this as
> it'll retain all existing backups. Could anybody confirm?

That's what I do with decommissioned machines.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc & Win2016

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> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Vaughan [mailto:cavaug...@gmail.com]
> Sent: den 28 november 2017 23:30
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc & Win2016
> 
> Been using Backuppc for Windows and Linux servers for years now, added
> a Win2016 server and have set it up as usual, but it won't back up the
> server. Can't figure out what's going on and the logs are no help
> either.
> 
> If from the server I try a rsync --list-only it lists everything. I
> used to actually have the full rsync command to try out a sync as the
> backuppc would, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
> 
> Once I start a full backup, it lists it as being started and never
> stops. But nothing is going on. Listing what jobs are going on with a
> 'ps axwww', I see for the server in question only:
> 
> 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump [servername]
> 
> it never gets beyond that.
> 
> Any clues?

Could it be that the first backup takes a long time to hash (or whatever)
the file list before the backup-procedure actually starts?

Is the firewall on the Win-server setup to allow incoming connections from
your BPC-server?

FWIW, I've never been able to backup our AD-connected Windows 2000/2008/2012
servers, unless I've used DeltaCopy.
Maybe Windows 2016 is the same.

More info about DeltaCopy:
http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup

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> -Original Message-
> From: Holger Parplies [mailto:wb...@parplies.de]
> Sent: den 7 april 2017 18:49
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Bowie Bailey wrote on 2017-04-07 09:17:29 -0400 [Re: [BackupPC-users]
> Excluding folders from backup]:
> > On 4/7/2017 2:55 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > >> From: Markus Koeberl [mailto:markus.koeb...@tugraz.at]
> > >> On Friday 07 April 2017 07:29:30 Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > >>> [...]
> > >>> The field BackupFilesOnly is empty, as this would override anything
in
> > >>> BackupFilesExclude as per the documentation.
> 
> that is not true for rsync, only for smb (and possibly tar, though I don't
> think so). With rsync, you *can* use both BackupFilesOnly and
> BackupFilesExclude in combination.
> 
> > >> [...]
> > >> It should look like this in your config file:
> > >> $Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
> > >>'/home/sorin'
> > >> ];
> > >> $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
> > >>'/home/sorin' => [
> > >>  '/Videos',
> > >>  '/ownCloud'
> > >>]
> > >> };
> > > [...]
> > > Doh! Now I get it! Thank you!
> > > You first have to add a "root" and then the folders you want excluded.
> > > Seeing it now, it's rather obvious.
> 
> It doesn't seem to be that intuitive ... this mistake has been made a lot.
> Please note that, as Markus implied, the excludes need to be relative to
the
> share, i.e. "/Videos" and "/ownCloud" - whether you use the share name or
"*"
> as the key. An exclude of "/home/sorin/Videos" would match a
file/directory
> "/home/sorin/home/sorin/Videos" (which you likely don't have, so the
exclude
> would not have any effect).
> 
> > AND the "root" must either match one of your share names or * to match
> > all of your shares.
> 
> Almost. In fact, an exclude for "*" is applied to all shares *which don't
> have a specific exclude*. So, if you used, for example,
> 
> $Conf {BackupFilesExclude} = {
> '/home/sorin' => [
> '/Videos'
> ],
> '*' => [
> '/ownCloud'
> ]
> };
> 
> /home/sorin/Videos would be excluded, but /home/sorin/ownCloud would
> *not*!

Hmm. This could be applied to all cache-folders I don't want backed up.
With the info above, I'd need to add * and /cache, /Cache and perhaps
/.cache and /.Cache to catch them all.

Am I thinking correctly now?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: Bowie Bailey [mailto:bowie_bai...@buc.com]
> Sent: den 7 april 2017 15:17
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup
> 
> >> If you set RsyncShareName to /home/sorin you need to define a key
> >> /home/sorin for BackupFilesExclude and add /Videos and /ownCloud to
this
> >> key
> >>
> >> It should look like this in your config file:
> >> $Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
> >>'/home/sorin'
> >> ];
> >> $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
> >>'/home/sorin' => [
> >>  '/Videos',
> >>  '/ownCloud'
> >>]
> >> };
> >
> > This is how my config file looks like:
> >
> > $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
> >'/home/sorin/ownCloud' => [],
> >'/home/sorin/Videos' => []
> > };
> > $Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
> >'/home/sorin',
> > ];
> >
> >
> > Doh! Now I get it! Thank you!
> > You first have to add a "root" and then the folders you want excluded.
> > Seeing it now, it's rather obvious.
> 
> AND the "root" must either match one of your share names or * to match
> all of your shares.

It makes sense, now.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: Markus Koeberl [mailto:markus.koeb...@tugraz.at]
> Sent: den 7 april 2017 08:37
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: Sorin Srbu <sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup
> 
> On Friday 07 April 2017 07:29:30 Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'm at a loss here. I just can't get this to work.
> >
> > Situation:
> > I have set to backup my homefolder /home/sorin on a CentOS 7.3 x64 box,
> but
> > I want to exclude the folders /home/sorin/Videos and
> /home/sorin/ownCloud.
> >
> > To achieve this I have /home/sorin set in the field RsyncShareName.
> >
> > In the field BackupFilesExclude I have the two folders
/home/sorin/Videos
> > and /home/sorin/ownCloud.
> >
> > The override checkbox is ticked on both RsyncShareName and
> > BackupFilesExclude.
> >
> > The field BackupFilesOnly is empty, as this would override anything in
> > BackupFilesExclude as per the documentation.
> >
> > Rsync is used for this client.
> > BackupPC v3.3.1 is used on the BPC-server, which runs CentOS 7.3.1611
x64.
> >
> >
> > Now, is there any particular reason why the folders /home/sorin/ownCloud
> and
> > /home/sorin/Videos _still_ gets backed up, despite my specifically
adding
> > exceptions/exclusions for them?
> >
> > I don't understand this... :-/
> > What am I missing here?
> >
> > If more information is needed, please ask!
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any hints.
> 
> 
> If you set RsyncShareName to /home/sorin you need to define a key
> /home/sorin for BackupFilesExclude and add /Videos and /ownCloud to this
> key
> 
> It should look like this in your config file:
> $Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
>   '/home/sorin'
> ];
> $Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
>   '/home/sorin' => [
> '/Videos',
> '/ownCloud'
>   ]
> };


This is how my config file looks like:

$Conf{BackupFilesExclude} = {
  '/home/sorin/ownCloud' => [],
  '/home/sorin/Videos' => []
};
$Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
  '/home/sorin',
];


Doh! Now I get it! Thank you!
You first have to add a "root" and then the folders you want excluded.
Seeing it now, it's rather obvious.

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[BackupPC-users] Excluding folders from backup

[Sorin Srbu]

Hello all,

I'm at a loss here. I just can't get this to work.

Situation:
I have set to backup my homefolder /home/sorin on a CentOS 7.3 x64 box, but
I want to exclude the folders /home/sorin/Videos and /home/sorin/ownCloud.

To achieve this I have /home/sorin set in the field RsyncShareName.

In the field BackupFilesExclude I have the two folders /home/sorin/Videos
and /home/sorin/ownCloud.

The override checkbox is ticked on both RsyncShareName and
BackupFilesExclude.

The field BackupFilesOnly is empty, as this would override anything in
BackupFilesExclude as per the documentation.

Rsync is used for this client.
BackupPC v3.3.1 is used on the BPC-server, which runs CentOS 7.3.1611 x64.


Now, is there any particular reason why the folders /home/sorin/ownCloud and
/home/sorin/Videos _still_ gets backed up, despite my specifically adding
exceptions/exclusions for them?

I don't understand this... :-/
What am I missing here?

If more information is needed, please ask!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] RPM for BackupPC 4

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From: Richard Shaw [mailto:hobbes1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: den 18 mars 2017 13:49
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support 

Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] RPM for BackupPC 4
 
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Kenneth Porter  > wrote:
I know Benjamin Lefoul took over as packager for Fedora. Benjamin, is there
an RPM coming soon for v4? I've got a CentOS 7 system suitable for testing
it on.
 
I actually just recently took over maintainership of BackupPC for Fedora and 
EPEL. There's still quite a bit of work to be done.
 
There were several patches applied which I had to evaluate if they were still 
necessary which is done. There's also two new requirements, BackupPC-XS and 
rsync-bpc which needed Review Requests which are also done but rsync-bpc still 
needs to be built and it will be at least a week before I can push them to 
stable.
 
I actually plan on starting with a COPR for testing purposes since I don't want 
to automatically start upgrading people. In fact I plan on building version 4 
on F26, and rawhide only for that reason.
 
I'm still working on how to properly stop BackupPC from SystemD, all the 
methods I've tried exit with a code which SystemD interprets as a failure..
 
 
 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Use devel list for BackupPC4 discussion?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Mauro Condarelli [mailto:mc5...@mclink.it]
> Sent: den 18 maj 2016 19:24
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Use devel list for BackupPC4 discussion?
> 
> Hi Kenneth,
> We started here partly by chance and partly because we wanted to give this
> the most publicity,
> but You are right: it's time to move to the devel list.
> 
> I urge anyone interested to move there and to join #backuppc channel on
> freenode.
> 
> Regards
> Mauro
> 
> Il 18/05/2016 18:59, Kenneth Porter ha scritto:
> > Would it not make more sense to move the development discussion to the
> > development mailing list and leave this list to end user help?
> >
> > Here's the link to the devel list:
> >
> > 
> >

Could we post an update on the matter on this list every now and then, on
how things progress?
The devel-list is way beyond my own scope of interest (sorry...), but I'd
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Juergen Harms [mailto:juergen.ha...@unige.ch]
> Sent: den 16 maj 2016 12:22
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> Things appear to shape up nicely, there are positive replies to many of
> the pending issues. Given the response of Lars - thanks - my biggest
> preoccupation has gone away: contact with Craig would still be nice, but
> is not essential any more, and between Mauro and Lars there are now two
> persons who can actively pursue infrastructure issues - split the load
> and assure "redundancy" - I agree with Adam, that is important.
> 
> I agree that a "devel" mailing list is probably needed - but I see the
> need of keeping the members of the "users" list motivated and aware of
> what is going on - that is an issue that contributed to having arrived
> in the present situation. Is IRC an alternative? not my preferred style,
> but I am more than one generation back. I guess both is needed - some
> brainstorming will be necessary, that is better done with IRC.
> 
> Another item where I start being optimistic is sustainability - can the
> activity we are talking about be maintained over a couple of years?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [mailto:chr...@real-time.com]
> Sent: den 15 maj 2016 17:16
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> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> On 05/14 05:53 , Ib H. Rasmussen wrote:
> > Although I'm not a contributor, and I don't think i'm cabable of being
> > one, I have been using BackupPC for more than 10 years, and i'm
> > absolutely for this initiative and i'm looking forward to the success of
it.
> 
> Same here.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Mauro Condarelli [mailto:mc5...@mclink.it]
> Sent: den 14 maj 2016 13:13
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> > Concerning what I can contribute: I am 19 years beyond the 60 year
> > milestone - a period where it becomes foolish to promise solid and
> ok, I lost the bet ;)

I'd like to help out as well. 
I don't however program at all except for occasional bash-scripts to help
with everyday chores when doing sysadmin-stuff.

I can cheer you guys who do the actual work, do moral support and offer a
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Moorcroft, Mark (ARC-TS)[Analytical Mechanics Associates, INC.]
> [mailto:mark.moorcr...@nasa.gov]
> Sent: den 10 maj 2016 20:12
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
>
>
> Theproblem is that it replaces modern rsync with some ancient embedded
> version. If that one thing could be "patched" I would hardly care about any
> other changes. The possibility of using modern rsync, and possibly "parsync"
> to do multi-threaded transfers is about the only thing I currently have to
> work around. I have even looked at commercial alternatives, and so far none
> of them make any economic sense to use.

Doesn't BPC use whatever rsync version is available on the BPC-server?


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Re: [BackupPC-users] New BPC install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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> -Original Message-
> From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
> Sent: den 22 april 2016 15:57
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [BackupPC-users] New BPC install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just recently installed a new BPC-server, and this time I used Ubuntu
> Server 14.04 LTS instead of my regular choice of CentOS 6.
> 
> The BPC version I installed is v3.3.0 and was from the default repos.
> V3.3.0 seems to work fine except for an irritating lack of graphs on the
> main web-gui page.
> 
> I figured I'd try out the 4.0 alpha as it's reported to just work, and is
> also said to include some smaller performance improvements.
> 
> Would I be safe in just using the install instructions as specified at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/files/backuppc-
> beta/4.0.0alpha3/
> or do I need to know anything else before proceeding?

Never mind. Sorry about the noise.
Seems like v3.3.0 corrected itself during the weekend. I now see graphs.

I'll wait a while with upgrading to BPC v4. 
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[BackupPC-users] New BPC install on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

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Hi all,

I just recently installed a new BPC-server, and this time I used Ubuntu
Server 14.04 LTS instead of my regular choice of CentOS 6.

The BPC version I installed is v3.3.0 and was from the default repos.
V3.3.0 seems to work fine except for an irritating lack of graphs on the
main web-gui page.

I figured I'd try out the 4.0 alpha as it's reported to just work, and is
also said to include some smaller performance improvements.

Would I be safe in just using the install instructions as specified at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/files/backuppc-beta/4.0.0alpha3/
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [mailto:chr...@real-time.com]
> Sent: den 22 april 2016 14:05
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> On 04/22 01:15 , Michael Schumacher wrote:
> > Some weeks ago, I installed BackupPC on a Banana Pi based on a Centos7
> > OS environment. The support for that ARM-platform is still very
> > basic, but even if the EPEL-repo is not available, I managed to get all
> > necessary perl components installed. Partly by building them with CPAN
> > or from rebuilding RPMs from source. It took me about two evenings to
> > collect all bits and pieces.
> 
> That may be acceptable if you're a programmer who knows the ins and outs
of
> CPAN, and is willing to keep track of software installed from source.
> However, those of us who administrate dozens or hundreds of machines
> (amongst which BackupPC is just one piece of software) require packaging
> which integrates with the OS. The installation process should be as simple
> as 'apt-get install backuppc', answer some questions, edit a few config
> files, and you're done. It's already more work to install BackupPC than it
> is Crashplan, and it offers fewer features (in some ways). BPC still wins
on
> cost, transparency, and flexibility of operation; but it does not solve
all
> our backup needs (such as client-driven push backups or site replication)
> and as such is only one of several backup solutions we use.

Good one Carl.

I was kinda' going towards that conclusion myself.

If I can't figure out a piece of software in about two hours it's out. 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Schumacher [mailto:michael.schumac...@pamas.de]
> Sent: den 22 april 2016 13:16
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> Hi Sorin,
> 
> Friday, April 22, 2016, 11:53:27 AM, you wrote:
> 
> SS> I'm just looking ahead and mulling over what to do whenever, and if,
e.g.
> SS> CentOS 6/7/8+ stops BPC from working because of missing libs and/or
> other
> SS> dependencies.
> 
> Some weeks ago, I installed BackupPC on a Banana Pi based on a Centos7
> OS environment. The support for that ARM-platform is still very
> basic, but even if the EPEL-repo is not available, I managed to get all
> necessary perl components installed. Partly by building them with CPAN
> or from rebuilding RPMs from source. It took me about two evenings to
> collect all bits and pieces.
> 
> You never know what happens in the future, but so far, I do not see
> any trouble within the next 8 years at least. This would be the EOL
> date for CentOS7.
> 
> Good enough?

I suppose. 8-)

I'm willing too, to put down some work to make e.g. BPC work on a "modern"
platform, but not too much. Time is money...

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Schumacher [mailto:michael.schumac...@pamas.de]
> Sent: den 22 april 2016 11:04
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> SS> I hope it's not off-topic on this particular list, but what
alternatives do
> SS> we have, that are as easy to install and maintain as BPC?
> 
> why would you need an alternative? BackupPC is a mature product. I do
> not miss any features. Just use it.
> In fact, I appreciate the fact that it is not evolving to a feature
> monster over time.

Hi there!

In retrospect I realise I should have written something about that in my
previous post. 8-)

I any case, I have no problem with using old software. 
Just because BPC isn't apparently maintained anymore, doesn't mean it will
suddenly stop working.

However, it's a so-so feeling using a software that's been for all practical
purposes abandoned for many years now.

Don't misunderstand me, BPC works just fine over here.

I'm just looking ahead and mulling over what to do whenever, and if, e.g.
CentOS 6/7/8+ stops BPC from working because of missing libs and/or other
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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> -Original Message-
> From: Mauro Condarelli [mailto:mc5...@mclink.it]
> Sent: den 22 april 2016 09:30
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support  us...@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sorin Srbu <sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
> 
> Sad news.
> My personal opinion is the Project is effectively dead because none
> (interested) has write access to the official repositories.
> There are several clones floating around (several on github, including a
semi-
> official one), but without a central aggregation point there's no way this
can
> evolve somehow.
> I know very well this is provocation and I would like very much to be
proved
> wrong, but no update in three years is deep coma, if not death.
> I already asked for someone of the knowledgeable persons (there are
> several here on the list) to take the lead.
> I got a resounding silence as an answer.
> 
> Sadly
> Mauro
> 
> Il 21/04/2016 13:24, Sorin Srbu ha scritto:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I installed a new BPC-server yesterday and noticed on
> > http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/, that the version 4 is still alpha and
has
> > been so since 2013.
> >
> > Might I inquire on how the work is progressing?
> > Is anybody in the know perhaps?
> >
> > Thanks.

That is indeed sad. 8-/

I hope it's not off-topic on this particular list, but what alternatives do
we have, that are as easy to install and maintain as BPC?


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[BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

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Hi all,

I installed a new BPC-server yesterday and noticed on
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/, that the version 4 is still alpha and has
been so since 2013.

Might I inquire on how the work is progressing?
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BPC 4 very slow

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> -Original Message-
> From: Gandalf Corvotempesta [mailto:gandalf.corvotempe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: den 11 januari 2016 09:27
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BPC 4 very slow
>
> 2016-01-11 6:57 GMT+01:00 Alexander Moisseev :
> > I believe weekDays should be in range 0...6 (0 is Sunday and 6 is 
> > Saturday), i.e.
> > weekDays  => [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6],
>
> You are right, my mistake.
> But for the rest of my questions ?

Please excuse a side-track.

Aren't there usually quite some questions about how to set up the 
blackout-periods and related?
There is a lot of confusion on how to set this up.

May I suggest an overhaul in the GUI, and may be the docs description, for 
this feature to simplify things?


FWIW, in Sweden Saturdays and Sundays are considered weekend days.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] BPC 4 very slow

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> -Original Message-
> From: Alexander Moisseev [mailto:mois...@mezonplus.ru]
> Sent: den 11 januari 2016 12:48
> To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] BPC 4 very slow
> 
> On 11.01.16 11:33, Sorin Srbu wrote:
> > Aren't there usually quite some questions about how to set up the
> > blackout-periods and related?
> > There is a lot of confusion on how to set this up.
> >
> > May I suggest an overhaul in the GUI, and may be the docs description,
for
> > this feature to simplify things?
> >
> 
> The weekDays numbering is documented here:
> http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/BackupPC-4.0.0alpha3_doc.html#What-to-
> backup-and-when-to-do-it

I know about it, I remember this being a pretty darn high threshold to pass
when I first started with BPC, and I have a feeling I might've irritated the
list pretty good with my questions at the time.

> You suggestion is reasonable, but any changes in the code or documentation
> isn't possible at the moment. You can find details in the BackupPC-devel
> mailing list latest threads.

Ah, thanks.

Another solution ocurred to me; how about a companion app in the form of a
web-gui on the docs site with a helper to set up the blackout periods, you
know - a simple thing with checkboxes ("I want the backup to occur at these
times" etc, click "prepare code" and you'll get a piece of code you can copy
and paste into the config-file directly.

It might be a bit over the top though...

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Blackout period not working?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
> Sent: den 1 oktober 2015 18:13
> To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Blackout period not working?
>
> Note that the next full is going to be based off the time of the last one. 
> If
> you want to push it back to its normal schedule you can force a run manually
> at about the time you want it to run.

, I've been using BackupPC for so long, and I still am 
missing out on the basic stuff...

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Windows Client 1.3 (rsync-vshadow-winexe)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Stowe [mailto:mst...@chicago.us.mensa.org]
 Sent: den 17 maj 2015 05:42
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC Windows Client 1.3 (rsync-vshadow-
 winexe)


 For anybody who uses the rsync-vshadow-winexe client, I've completed a
 number of updates that may be of interest:

 - rsync now uses version 3.1.1
 - 32-bit or 64-bit binaries are selected as appropriate
 - in-place upgrade

 Of course, the old features are still there, like matching the right
 vshadow.exe to the right flavor of Windows.

 At any rate, the whole thing is available here:
 http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/

 There's a direct link to the latest version here:
 http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/backuppc-client.exe

 And all source code for the convenience package is here:
 https://github.com/mwstowe/BackupPC-Client

 (Source code for the server side scripts is all included in the
 archive.)

Cool! Didn't know there was a working rsync Win-client capable of handling 
locked files...
Not too happy using Deltacopy for our Windows-machines. Will give this client 
a go soonish.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status of the wiki (was: Re: web GUI downloading BIN file Ubuntu 14.04)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Holger Parplies [mailto:wb...@parplies.de]
 Sent: den 13 november 2014 17:31
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: [BackupPC-users] Status of the wiki (was: Re: web GUI downloading
 BIN file Ubuntu 14.04)
 
 as far as I can tell, SourceForge has once again changed the wiki software,
 though I can't remember reading an announcement to that effect. My guess
 would be that Craig either has a backup of the old wiki contents or could
 access one made by SourceForge. I have no clue how much reformatting of
 the pages would need to be done, but it would be a good start to simply have
 the information online again, no matter how it looks or how badly structured
 it is.
 
 I'd volunteer to help with that (both putting information online and cleaning 
 up).
 
 Should the information be unrecoverably lost, that should be made public, too.
 I, for one, am reluctant to re-write pages while I still hope they can simply
 be recovered from a backup.
 
 Regards,
 Holger
 
 P.S.: Maybe access to the old contents is not limited to Craig. Does anyone
   have information or pointers? Otherwise I'll look into it and follow up
   later, though I'm not sure I can find the time before monday ...

FWIW, the CentOS-wiki for BPC was moved to 

http://www.srbu.se/backuppc.html

since the original page wasn't updated anymore by the original author.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes

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 -Original Message-
 From: tschmid4 [mailto:tschm...@utk.edu]
 Sent: den 4 november 2014 14:33
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes
 
 
 
 Greetings,
 
 I've read, read, Googled, fiddled, and cannot figure this out.
 
 I tried to add a server to Backuppc and the only way it would show up on the
 list is by
 
 SSH into it from the Backuppc server. Now it's on the list but this server and
 the backup
 
 server are unable to backup with the subject error.
 
 I have run various keygen, ssh restart, etc.
 
 Anything standard about this message I've overlooked?
 
 - Ubuntu server

Did you ssh-copy the keys in question from the BPC-server to the host to be 
backed up?

I usually get that message when BPC can't connect to the backupee.

From our internal FAQ:
Q: How do I setup the RSA-key for passwordless rsync for BackupPC (BPC) clients?
 
A: On mach012 or mach021, depending on if it's for instrument backup (m12) or 
user backup (m21):

bash-3.2$ su -s /bin/bash - backuppc
bash-3.2$ cd /bak
bash-3.2$ ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub r...@machine.tobe.backedup.com

More info on 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos#head-bab8e87dc82e722540e2d39de8408750004a8c4a
http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/unix-tutorials/71-install-backuppc-server-in-centosrhelfedora


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[BackupPC-users] Follow-up Backup speeds: (Was: Using NFS to increase backup speed)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se]
 Sent: den 20 oktober 2014 09:07
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
 Will take another three or four days till the 6th backup shows.
 
 So far, so good!

I think it looks pretty okay now. 
See attached PDF for today's BPC summary after two full backups plus some 
incrementals.

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[BackupPC-users] Changing backup browsing view from bytes to eg megabytes

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Hi all,

When I browse a host's backups, there is a size-column showing the file size in 
bytes.

Can this be changed somewhere to show megabytes, or even gigabytes instead?

I've looked in /usr/share/BackupPC/lib/BackupPC/CGI/Browse.pm and found this 
bit, which looks promising:

#
# This is the selected directory, so display all the files
#
my ($attrStr, $iconStr);
if ( defined($a = $attr-{$f}) ) {
my $mtimeStr = $bpc-timeStamp($a-{mtime});
# UGH - fix this
my $typeStr  = BackupPC::Attrib::fileType2Text(undef,

 $a-{type});
my $modeStr  = sprintf(0%o, $a-{mode}  0);
$iconStr = EOF;
img src=$Conf{CgiImageDirURL}/icon-$typeStr.png valign=top
EOF
$attrStr .= EOF;
td align=center class=fviewborder$typeStr/td
td align=center class=fviewborder$modeStr/td
td align=center class=fviewborder$a-{backupNum}/td
td align=right class=fviewborder$a-{size}/td
td align=right class=fviewborder$mtimeStr/td
/tr
EOF

Can't find where $a-{size} comes from though.

You got any pointers for me guys?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Changing backup browsing view from bytes to eg megabytes

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 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Moisseev [mailto:mois...@mezonplus.ru]
 Sent: den 22 oktober 2014 13:53
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Changing backup browsing view from bytes to
 eg megabytes
 
 It doesn't matter where $a-{size} comes from if you can change it right
 here.
 
 
 root@backup:/usr/local/lib/BackupPC/CGI # diff -ruN Browse.pm.orig
 Browse.pm
 --- Browse.pm.orig  2014-10-22 15:12:01.0 +0400
 +++ Browse.pm   2014-10-22 15:38:50.0 +0400
 @@ -206,11 +206,25 @@
   $iconStr = EOF;
   img src=$Conf{CgiImageDirURL}/icon-$typeStr.png valign=top
   EOF
 +my $size;
 +if ( $a-{size} = 1073741824 ) {
 +$size = sprintf( %u GiB, $a-{size} / (1073741824) 
 );
 +}
 +elsif ( $a-{size} = 1048576 ) {
 +$size = sprintf( %u MiB, $a-{size} / 1048576 );
 +}
 +elsif ( $a-{size} = 1024 ) {
 +$size = sprintf( %u KiB, $a-{size} / 1024 );
 +}
 +else {
 +$size = $a-{size};
 +}
 +
   $attrStr .= EOF;
   td align=center class=fviewborder$typeStr/td
   td align=center class=fviewborder$modeStr/td
   td align=center class=fviewborder$a-{backupNum}/td
 -td align=right class=fviewborder$a-{size}/td
 +td align=right class=fviewborder$size/td
   td align=right class=fviewborder$mtimeStr/td
   /tr
   EOF
 

Oh! Thanks Alexander!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Koen Vermeer [mailto:k...@vermeer.tv]
 Sent: den 17 oktober 2014 21:49
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
  [root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan cat  /dev/null
  1.16GiB 0:01:29 [14.3MiB/s]
 
  [root@cyndane ~]#
 
  I searched and read som more after posting the question, and I realize it's
 not that simple fixing this, as I initially thought...
 
 I'd tunnel the port your use for iperf (ssh -L 5001:localhost:5001
 cyndane) and run the same test as you initially did (iperf -c
 localhost). I expect that you'll see a value that's larger than the
 35-45 Mbps you get for rsync+ssh, meaning that rsync is the bottleneck.
 And most of the time, that makes sense, because it's often doing other
 things than transferring data.

I'll give it a go. Thanks!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 17 oktober 2014 16:57
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
  I was worried the full backup wouldn't complete in the limited time the BPC
 server in online.
  For practical reasons (well, because of the hd-space available really), the
 server used is off during nights in order to save some electricity.
 
  The first backup took some 17 hours...
 
  Today, I just checked, the first incremental backup took just under three
 hours, which is completely okay.
  I'll need to see how the next full backup performs with the speed tweaks
 I've done so far.
 
 Incrementals will quickly skip over files where the timestamp and
 length match the copy in the previous full run.  They do transfer more
 each time until the next full sets a new comparision base.  So the
 times you need to be concerned about are the last (usually 6th)
 incremental in the set, and the 3rd full run after setting the
 checksum-seed option).  These should show what to expect for
 subsequent times.

Yupp, I noticed.

Will take another three or four days till the 6th backup shows.

So far, so good!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Koen Vermeer [mailto:k...@vermeer.tv]
 Sent: den 16 oktober 2014 17:29
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
 What about testing the speed over the ssh tunnel? That may tell you
 whether ssh is slowing down your transfers or that it's due to rsync. If it is
 ssh, you could trade encryption strength for speed.

Hi and thanks,

Would the below do? 

[root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan cat  /dev/null
1.16GiB 0:01:29 [14.3MiB/s]

[root@cyndane ~]#

I searched and read som more after posting the question, and I realize it's not 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Colin Shorts [mailto:c.sho...@intrallect.com]
 Sent: den 16 oktober 2014 17:58
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
 You may wish to prevent ssh from using compression when using a fast link,
 the overhead probably isn't worth it and may give you a reasonable boost in
 throughput.

Disabling compression in sshd_config didn't do much, maybe .1-.2 MiB increase.

However using arcfour did produce a significant increase as seen below.

[root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan -c arcfour cat  /dev/null
 389MiB 0:00:23 [20.8MiB/s]

I'll add arcfour to the ssh-arg path in BPC and see how things pan out.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 16 oktober 2014 18:09
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
  I'm seeing network speeds at about 35-45 Mbps when using BackupPC and rsync 
  over ssh.
 
 
 That sounds pretty good.  But unless you have a lot of new files
 created daily, the bottleneck is usually disk speed, especially
 merging a lot of small changes into a big existing file.

I did some more tests with the suggested ciphers:

[root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan -c aes128-ctr cat  /dev/null
0:00:10 [14.2MiB/s]
 
[root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan -c aes128-cbc cat  /dev/null
0:00:28 [  23MiB/s]

[root@cyndane ~]# yes | pv | ssh titan -c arcfour cat  /dev/null
0:00:20 [30.9MiB/s]

It would seem arcfour would be the better choice for my setup.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 16 oktober 2014 18:09
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
  I'm seeing network speeds at about 35-45 Mbps when using BackupPC and rsync 
  over ssh.
 
 
 That sounds pretty good.  But unless you have a lot of new files
 created daily, the bottleneck is usually disk speed, especially
 merging a lot of small changes into a big existing file.

Not too many new files daily, the reading is done from a three- or four-disk 
raid0-array, so should be fairly fast I guess.

The 35-45 Mbps mentioned above is a pretty rought figure I think. I took it 
from the netspeed Gnome applet. The numbers I posted just earlier are probably 
more exact(ish).

But you think this speed is what you'd expect from a setup with a gigabit 
switch, gigabit-NICs on both ends and CPU:s (BPC: single-core Athlon64 3500+, 
host: Intel core 2 Quad Q8200@2,33 GHx) a few years old then?


  Running iperf below I notice the network should theoretically be capable of
  a bit more than that. I understand that ssh adds quite a bit of bottleneck.
 
 There is some overhead for encryption.  Back when cpus were slow
 enough for it to matter I used to set blowfish as the preferred
 cipher.  Now you probably want aes-128 where you have hardware
 support.

Would aes-128 be faster than arcfour, roughly speaking?

I'll need to give aes-128 a go as well it seems.


  After reading one of the answers at
 http://serverfault.com/questions/377598/why-is-my-rsync-so-slow, I
 kinda' wonder if the NFS-angle would work for use with BackupPC and how I
 would go about it. Is the tar transfer method the only one supported by BPC
 if using NFS for example?
  Rsyncing a NFS-mounted remote host supposedly is a lot faster than doing
 rsync over ssh.
 
  Any thoughts on this?
 
 I'd guess there are too many variables to predict but I'd stick to ssh
 because of the forced validation (--ignore-times) on full runs.  In
 the case that will ultimately matter the most (the third and
 subsequent full runs)  you can avoid most of the server-side reads if
 you used checksum caching but you still have to perform a full read of
 the content on the client side.  With ssh, that's a local disk access.
 with nfs you'll copy every file across the network just so rsync can
 compute its block checksum even where everything already matches.

Some of the articles mentioned this, but didn't go too much into depth. 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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 -Original Message-
 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 17 oktober 2014 14:55
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed
 
  Not too many new files daily, the reading is done from a three- or four-disk
 raid0-array, so should be fairly fast I guess.
 
 Do you have a problem completing backups in the time available?   And
 if so, with all incrementals or just fulls?   Without checksum
 caching, the server side will have to read and uncompress everything
 for the full comparison.   With it, after the second full that
 includes a file, only the client side has to do the read.   But in
 either case, the really slow operation is when a large existing file
 has a lot of small random changes.  For that, the server has to
 uncompress the old file and create a new copy, merging in the changes
 from the remote so it may involve a lot of disk seeking.

I thought I had, and maybe I still do, with the very first full backup. 

I was worried the full backup wouldn't complete in the limited time the BPC 
server in online. 
For practical reasons (well, because of the hd-space available really), the 
server used is off during nights in order to save some electricity.

The first backup took some 17 hours...

Today, I just checked, the first incremental backup took just under three 
hours, which is completely okay. 
I'll need to see how the next full backup performs with the speed tweaks I've 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes revisited

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 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Goryachev [mailto:mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au]
 Sent: den 11 oktober 2014 13:21
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes revisited
 
 Try this:
 $sshPath -q -x -l root -p 522 $host $rsyncPath $argList+

That did it. Thanks for the assist!

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[BackupPC-users] Using NFS to increase backup speed

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Hi all,

I'm seeing network speeds at about 35-45 Mbps when using BackupPC and rsync 
over ssh.

Running iperf below I notice the network should theoretically be capable of a 
bit more than that. I understand that ssh adds quite a bit of bottleneck.

[root@titan ~]# iperf -c cyndane

Client connecting to cyndane, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 42.5 KByte (default)

[  3] local 192.168.0.8 port 51754 connected with 192.168.0.9 port 5001
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0-10.0 sec   398 MBytes   334 Mbits/sec
[root@titan ~]#

Just to clarify, titan above is the BPC-server and has some local disk space 
where the backup pool is. Cyndane is the host being backed up. Both have 
gigabit-NIC's and a ditto switch between them.

After reading one of the answers at 
http://serverfault.com/questions/377598/why-is-my-rsync-so-slow, I kinda' 
wonder if the NFS-angle would work for use with BackupPC and how I would go 
about it. Is the tar transfer method the only one supported by BPC if using NFS 
for example?
Rsyncing a NFS-mounted remote host supposedly is a lot faster than doing rsync 
over ssh.

Any thoughts on this? 
Has anybody on this list maybe set up their systems using NFS and can share 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes revisited

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 -Original Message-
 From: Adam Goryachev [mailto:mailingli...@websitemanagers.com.au]
 Sent: den 11 oktober 2014 13:21
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes revisited
 
 On 11/10/14 21:12, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 
 
   Hi all,
 
 
 
   I set up BackupPC at home to make more systematic backups
 of mine and wifeys homefolders on the  samba-server and ran into the
 somewhat dreaded Unable to read 4 bytes-error.
 
 
 
   Problem is *maybe* that the host to be backed up is running
 sshd on port 522.
 
 Yep, but that is easily solved.
 
 
   What I've done so far is to create the passwordless login with
 my backuppc-user to the host, tested and this works.
 
   As the backuppc-user I can login to the host using ssh over port
 522 without entering a password and becoming root.
 
 
 
   Rsync is used as the transfer method, BTW.
 
 
 
   In the BPC web-GUI, I've added port 522 to RsyncClientCMD,
 so that now it reads:
   $sshPath -q -x -l -p 522 root $host $rsyncPath $argList+
 
   Was this correct to do?
 
 
 
 
 No, this is your mistake. You need to know what all those options mean. -l is
 the username to use when authenticating with the remote host, you have
 provided the username as -p, and then I don't know what 522 and root are
 going to be interpreted as, I guess 522 would be the hostname, and root
 would become the path to rsync...
 
 Try this:
 $sshPath -q -x -l root -p 522 $host $rsyncPath $argList+
 
 
 
   I've tried to disable iptables on the host, with no change, still
 getting the 4 byte-error.
 
 
 
   What am I missing?? Is there something with rsync not
 connecting properly maybe?
 
 
 
 Also, next time please provide the log file as that will usually provide more
 information if the solution isn't so easy.

Thanks for the hints. I'll try this when I get home.

Seems I assumed to much with the arguments list... 8-/

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[BackupPC-users] Unable to read 4 bytes revisited

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Hi all,

I set up BackupPC at home to make more systematic backups of mine and wifeys 
homefolders on the  samba-server and ran into the somewhat dreaded Unable to 
read 4 bytes-error.

Problem is *maybe* that the host to be backed up is running sshd on port 522.

What I've done so far is to create the passwordless login with my backuppc-user 
to the host, tested and this works.
As the backuppc-user I can login to the host using ssh over port 522 without 
entering a password and becoming root.

Rsync is used as the transfer method, BTW.

In the BPC web-GUI, I've added port 522 to RsyncClientCMD, so that now it reads:
$sshPath -q -x -l -p 522 root $host $rsyncPath $argList+

Was this correct to do?

I've tried to disable iptables on the host, with no change, still getting the 4 
byte-error.

What am I missing?? Is there something with rsync not connecting properly maybe?

Hints appreciated.
Thanks.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Long-Term Backups/Rotation

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 -Original Message-
 From: Bowie Bailey [mailto:bowie_bai...@buc.com]
 Sent: den 22 september 2014 19:20
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Long-Term Backups/Rotation
 
  wouldn't it be possible to do this with the exponential backup expiry
  like this:
 
  $Conf{FullPeriod} = 6,97
  $Conf{IncPeriod} = 0,97
  $Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [4,0,12,0,0,0,10]
 
  Would that give me:
  daily incrementals for a week,
  4 weeks of full backups (1 full each week),
  12 months (4*12 weeks) of full backups ( 1 full of each month),
  ~10 years (10*64 of backups ( 1 full of each year)
 
  Can anyone clarify this for me?

  Was there ever a conclusion to this, or did I miss it?
 
 That looks pretty conclusive to me.  What needs to be clarified.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Long-Term Backups/Rotation

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 -Original Message-
 From: str...@hasnoname.de [mailto:str...@hasnoname.de]
 Sent: den 11 september 2014 12:14
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Long-Term Backups/Rotation
 
 wouldn't it be possible to do this with the exponential backup expiry
 like this:
 
 $Conf{FullPeriod} = 6,97
 $Conf{IncPeriod} = 0,97
 $Conf{FullKeepCnt} = [4,0,12,0,0,0,10]
 
 Would that give me:
 daily incrementals for a week,
 4 weeks of full backups (1 full each week),
 12 months (4*12 weeks) of full backups ( 1 full of each month),
 ~10 years (10*64 of backups ( 1 full of each year)
 
 Can anyone clarify this for me?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Best backup system for Windows clients

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 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Lytle [mailto:supp...@drdos.info]
 Sent: den 26 augusti 2014 14:20
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Best backup system for Windows clients
 
  I too would be fascinated to find a how to for VSS/rsync combination.
I
 have used Backuppc for years with linux clients.
 
 We use DeltaCopy. Makes things easy.

So have we, but Deltacopy still can't handle files that are in use, it skips
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Best backup system for Windows clients

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 From: Doug Lytle [mailto:supp...@drdos.info]
 Sent: den 26 augusti 2014 15:18
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Best backup system for Windows clients
 
  So have we, but Deltacopy still can't handle files that are in use, it
skips
  them and adds an error to the log.
 
 For Windows 7 workstations and above, that'd be correct.   You can updated
 the DeltaCopy DLLs to support VSS under XP, but our XP workstations are
 dwindling fast.

Spot on. We're basically a Win7/2k8/2k12-shop by now. 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] off-site storage

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 -Original Message-
 From: Norman Goldstein [mailto:norm...@telus.net]
 Sent: den 14 augusti 2014 02:32
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [BackupPC-users] off-site storage
 
 I use BackupPC to back up to an nfs-mounted NAS.
 This works great.
 I like the interface and control that we have for configuration,
 status and walk-abouts.  However, I am somewhat delinquent
 in taking a hard copy DVD off-site on a regular basis.
 
 I've been looking around for off-site cloud-type storage,
 where I can sync the BackupPC data folder.
 
 -- I want that there should always be a valid backup off-site.
 -- The BackupPC backup process should not be active while
  the BackupPC data folder is being sync'd off-site (unless
 BPC is doing the sync'ing?)
 -- I don't want to do a wholesale copy each time, but rather
 incremental copying, to keep down the bandwidth (like
 BackupPC does with de-dup'ing)
 
 Any suggestions?
 Thank you.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Manual restore

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 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 5 maj 2014 21:00
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Manual restore
 
 On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Carlos Galeano cgale...@logise.com.gt
 wrote:
 
  I’m Using the command backuppc_tarCreate to manually restore some
 backups,
  it Works fine but i want to know if with this command can create several
  files and not only one big file.
 
 
 The tar image is going to be generated as one big stream, but since
 you are working with the command line you could pipe through gzip and
 split (-b) if you would like to have it split into a set of smaller
 files for easier transport.   You would then have to reconstruct the
 original stream by zcat'ing the parts back together for tar to
 eventually extract the original files.

Speaking of which, is there any temporary file created somewhere when restoring 
using the zip-method?

I'm thinking of a situation when the temp-file is so big it fills up e.g. / and 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Manual restore

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 From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikes...@gmail.com]
 Sent: den 6 maj 2014 14:57
 To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Manual restore
 
  Speaking of which, is there any temporary file created somewhere when
restoring using the zip-method?
 
  I'm thinking of a situation when the temp-file is so big it fills up
e.g. / and fails silently, and you won't notice it because you're using the
web-GUI.
 
 
 I don't think so, but I normally use tar unless I know the result will
 be small.  I have run into an inherent size limit in zip in other
 contexts.

Sorry for hijacking this thread...

When you mention in other contexts, you mean as in not BackuPC?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] What file system do you use?

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From: Timothy J Massey [mailto:tmas...@obscorp.com] 
Sent: den 16 december 2013 18:23
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] What file system do you use?

 

Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se wrote on 12/16/2013 09:40:56 AM:

 Anyway, Anaconda objected at my choosing ext4 for the 40 TB raid-array
when I 
 recently set up a new system, and defaulted to xfs instead. 

EXT4 won't support file systems 16TB at all with 4k blocks, and depending
on OS and tool version, the tools may not support a block size 4k.
Anaconda (the RHEL/CentOS installer) won't support 8GB during install. 

Given those limitations, I consider EXT4 being limited to 16TB.  Your
evaluation may vary, of course. 




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