Re: [BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2009-12-19 Thread Tim Connors
On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Holger Parplies wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote on 2009-12-18 15:36:48 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] 
> Unexpected call?BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)]:
> > Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote at about 13:11:37 -0500 on Monday, November 2, 
> > 2009:
> >  > Unexpected call 
> > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(cygwin/usr/share/man/man3/addnwstr.3x.gz)
> >  >
> >  > [...]
> >  >
> >  > Note from the below quoted thread from 2005, Craig claims that the error 
> > is
> >  > benign, but doesn't explain how/why.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I am curious about what could be causing this situation [...]
>
> if you're curious about what is causing a benign warning message, you're
> probably on your own for the most part. I can supply you with one casual
> observation and one tip:
>
> I think I saw that warning when I changed from tar to rsync XferMethod. As you
> know, tar and rsync encode the file type "plain file" differently in attrib
> files (rsync has a bit for it, tar (like stat()) doesn't and simply takes the
> absense of a bit for a special file type to mean "plain file"). When rsync
> compares remote and local file type (remote from remote rsync instance, local
> from attrib file generated by tar XferMethod), it assumes a plain file changed
> its type, so it removes the local copy [...]

I get it whenever any file gets replaced by a symlink courtesy of some
debian update (or vice versa - when a symlink gets replaced by a real
file?).

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2009-12-18 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote on 2009-12-18 15:36:48 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] 
Unexpected call?BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)]:
> Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote at about 13:11:37 -0500 on Monday, November 2, 2009:
>  > Unexpected call 
> BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(cygwin/usr/share/man/man3/addnwstr.3x.gz)
>  > 
>  > [...]
>  > 
>  > Note from the below quoted thread from 2005, Craig claims that the error is
>  > benign, but doesn't explain how/why.
> 
> [...]
> 
> I am curious about what could be causing this situation [...]

if you're curious about what is causing a benign warning message, you're
probably on your own for the most part. I can supply you with one casual
observation and one tip:

I think I saw that warning when I changed from tar to rsync XferMethod. As you
know, tar and rsync encode the file type "plain file" differently in attrib
files (rsync has a bit for it, tar (like stat()) doesn't and simply takes the
absense of a bit for a special file type to mean "plain file"). When rsync
compares remote and local file type (remote from remote rsync instance, local
from attrib file generated by tar XferMethod), it assumes a plain file changed
its type, so it removes the local copy (if that sounds strange, remember that
File::RsyncP mimics plain rsync, which *would* delete the local file; with
BackupPC's storage backend, that doesn't make sense, hence the warning) and
transfers the remote file without a local copy to compare to. Or something
like that.

If you want to know more, look at where the source code generates the warning
message (well, that's stated *in* the warning message) and where that code is
called from (presumably File::RsyncP) and in which circumstances.

Good luck. Since you asked, don't forget to report back ;-).

Regards,
Holger

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2009-12-18 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Jeffrey J. Kosowsky wrote at about 13:11:37 -0500 on Monday, November 2, 2009:
 > Unexpected call 
 > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(cygwin/usr/share/man/man3/addnwstr.3x.gz)
 > 
 > I encountered the above error in my backup logs - repeated hundreds of
 > time though all interestingly only on different files in my
 > C:\cygwin\usr\share\man\man3 directory.
 > 
 > 
 > Now for context, this was part of a full backup after I reinstalled
 > Windows on a laptop. I had been testing BackupPC before so I had
 > interrupted BackupPC early in the backup several times before (and I
 > believe the cygwin directory is placed early in the backup based on
 > alphabetical order). 
 > 
 > Also, after interrupting a very partial backup, I noticed that
 > BackupPC_link was running. So perhaps, this is 'undoing' a
 > BackupPC_link operation that ran on a partial backup?
 > 
 > In any case, I am curious to know what causes the error and what does
 > it mean?
 > Is it an error on my system (in which case maybe I should be looking
 > at my system) or is it an error in backuppc?
 > 
 > 
 > Note from the below quoted thread from 2005, Craig claims that the error is
 > benign, but doesn't explain how/why.

Well I just upgraded and reinstalled Fedora on  my Linux server and
ran a new full backup. Again I noticed dozens of these type
errors. All of them appear to be symbolic links but the links both in
the new full and in the previous full appear to be intact. Also, this
occurred on only about 40 out of many hundreds of symbolic links on my
system.

I am curious about what could be causing this situation that seems to
be:
1. Limited to symlinks
2. Seems to only occur after a change to the system (presumably rsync
   is seeing the same link with a different inode)
3. Only occurs on some links.

Any thoughts?


 > 
 > 
 > Thanks
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > > Brendan Simon writes: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:13:01 -0800
 > > 
 > > > Could someone tell me what the following errors mean?
 > > > 
 > > > Unexpected call 
 > > > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/images/CN-image.tar.gz)
 > > > [ skipped 21 lines ]
 > > > Unexpected call 
 > > > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/main.c)
 > > > [ skipped 45 lines ]
 > > > Unexpected call 
 > > > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/timer.c)
 > > > [ skipped 41134 lines ]
 > > 
 > > The error itself is benign.  But for some reason BackupPC thinks
 > > that the existing file (ie: the one backed up in the previous full
 > > backup) is not a regular file.  The file will be re-transferred.
 > > 
 > > What happens when you browse the previous full backup and look
 > > at the file type of those three files?
 > > 
 > > Craig
 > > 
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[BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2009-11-02 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Unexpected call 
BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(cygwin/usr/share/man/man3/addnwstr.3x.gz)

I encountered the above error in my backup logs - repeated hundreds of
time though all interestingly only on different files in my
C:\cygwin\usr\share\man\man3 directory.


Now for context, this was part of a full backup after I reinstalled
Windows on a laptop. I had been testing BackupPC before so I had
interrupted BackupPC early in the backup several times before (and I
believe the cygwin directory is placed early in the backup based on
alphabetical order). 

Also, after interrupting a very partial backup, I noticed that
BackupPC_link was running. So perhaps, this is 'undoing' a
BackupPC_link operation that ran on a partial backup?

In any case, I am curious to know what causes the error and what does
it mean?
Is it an error on my system (in which case maybe I should be looking
at my system) or is it an error in backuppc?


Note from the below quoted thread from 2005, Craig claims that the error is
benign, but doesn't explain how/why.


Thanks



> Brendan Simon writes: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:13:01 -0800
> 
> > Could someone tell me what the following errors mean?
> > 
> > Unexpected call 
> > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/images/CN-image.tar.gz)
> > [ skipped 21 lines ]
> > Unexpected call 
> > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/main.c)
> > [ skipped 45 lines ]
> > Unexpected call 
> > BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/timer.c)
> > [ skipped 41134 lines ]
> 
> The error itself is benign.  But for some reason BackupPC thinks
> that the existing file (ie: the one backed up in the previous full
> backup) is not a regular file.  The file will be re-transferred.
> 
> What happens when you browse the previous full backup and look
> at the file type of those three files?
> 
> Craig
> 

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2005-11-13 Thread Craig Barratt
Brendan Simon writes:

> Could someone tell me what the following errors mean?
> 
> Unexpected call 
> BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/images/CN-image.tar.gz)
> [ skipped 21 lines ]
> Unexpected call 
> BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/main.c)
> [ skipped 45 lines ]
> Unexpected call 
> BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/timer.c)
> [ skipped 41134 lines ]

The error itself is benign.  But for some reason BackupPC thinks
that the existing file (ie: the one backed up in the previous full
backup) is not a regular file.  The file will be re-transferred.

What happens when you browse the previous full backup and look
at the file type of those three files?

Craig


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[BackupPC-users] Unexpected call BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(...)

2005-10-18 Thread Brendan Simon

Hi,

Could someone tell me what the following errors mean?

Unexpected call 
BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/images/CN-image.tar.gz)
[ skipped 21 lines ]
Unexpected call 
BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/main.c)
[ skipped 45 lines ]
Unexpected call 
BackupPC::Xfer::RsyncFileIO->unlink(john/aegis/CN.1.5.1.4.C117/src/ethernetd/timer.c)
[ skipped 41134 lines ]

Thanks,
Brendan.




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